I'm getting tired of Linus Tech Tips here...

[uncle mark]

There are more and more useless Linux videos on YouTube.

It's not just a Linux problem. I have a couple other technical type hobbies and probably 90% of the youtube vidoes about them are BS made by "content creators" and "influencers" and all they know is what they learned from other videos made by other "content creators" and "influencers" that don't know S.

You just described the (almost) entirety of X, Facebook, and Instagram.

[siamhie]

"When regular people make the great penguin migration, it's going to be on a Steam-powered train."

What does that even mean? All Roku products runs on the Roku OS that uses the Linux kernel as does LG's webOS and Samsung's Tizen.
Does that make those consumer's part of the "great penguin migration" also?

I'm not sure what's the definition of "regular people" most of the people I know (except for people here in the forum) don't go changing the OSes on their computers. If that's the definition of the "regular people" yes, Linux is not for then, but then again, if they get a Chromebook they might be perfectly fine with that, actually I would not dare recommending Windows to "regular people" either. People don't use OSes, people use applications and most are fine using just the browser and many don't even know what that is "what do you mean start the browser? Is that blue swirly icon? " -- do you want those people to go install Linux, or even Windows? Those people should use a Chromebook or maybe a tablet (which could very well run Android, so Linux too)

That's what I'm trying to understand also. Just who are these "regular people" he speaks of? Is it gamers who play on consoles and computers will switch to Steam handhelds?
Joe/Jane Consumer isn't going to care what's under the hood, just as long as the device works and if anything does go wrong, they will just RMA it.

[AK-47]

Christopher and Stanley the Knife for the win. A lot of his content isn't in my wheelhouse but that doesn't stop me from tuning into the videos he publishes.

No love for Mr. Scissors?

[siamhie]

Christopher and Stanley the Knife for the win. A lot of his content isn't in my wheelhouse but that doesn't stop me from tuning into the videos he publishes.

No love for Mr. Scissors?

I don't think I've seen him open packages with scissors. He always grabs his Stanley knife and says something like Let's get Stanley the Knife to open this.

[DukeComposed]

I'm not sure what's the definition of "regular people" most of the people I know (except for people here in the forum) don't go changing the OSes on their computers.

That's what I'm trying to understand also. Just who are these "regular people" he speaks of?

Professional software companies have or had a phase of "user-driven development". Teams would invent "personas" and "user stories" to describe specific, fictional people and how those fictional people would use the software that hasn't been written yet to accomplish some kind of precisely-defined task[0].

Prior to that, you'd be lucky to have someone on the team conscientiously point out if a design choice the team was building would be unintuitive and confusing for his or her grandmother to use. "My grandmother doesn't know what 'sudo' is. She knows her password and that's it, so if our tool needs sudo permissions, it should just elevate itself automatically and ask her for her password."

This was a major improvement over the previous standard of tech usability[1] and every team had one or two people who'd bring their grandmothers, in spirit, into design meetings. As it turns out, different people had different grandmothers. So as more theoretical grandmothers were brought in to dispute more usability concerns, arguments would start over whose grandmother was the more typical grandmother.

I'm sure in a conference room somewhere in the Bay Area, the Platonic abstract ideal grandmother is being conjured as we speak.

[0] Example: "Bob" is an account manager for FictionCo. He has several clients and needs to know which clients have contracts that are about to expire so he can reach out to them. He uses our new VaporWare tool to get an indexed, searchable report of his clients, their product expiration dates, and all of the discounts he can offer to encourage them to renew.

[1] Three words: "PC Load Letter".

[FullScale4Me]

Here is one I left out - a creator who also markets his Linux courses at the end of his videos.

I used LMDE and MX Linux for a week. Here's My Honest Verdict! by Linux Tex

I was mildly surprised by his findings.

[dreamer]

Here is one I left out - a creator who also markets his Linux courses at the end of his videos.

I used LMDE and MX Linux for a week. Here's My Honest Verdict! by Linux Tex

I was mildly surprised by his findings.

Thanks for posting. This was enjoyable to watch. I wish everyone YouTuber was as passionate about desktop Linux.

His 8 - 6 score in favour of MX Linux is pretty fair I would say. After I installed Cinnamon 6.2 from LMDE on MX-23 I felt I had the desktop I was looking for (I don’t recommend doing this, but it won’t be necessary on Debian Trixie).

The main weakness of LMDE is a somewhat lackluster installer. There is no MX Snapshot (Systemback works as a poorer substitute). A lot of things can be borrowed from MX Linux when using LMDE, for example MXPI. I know some people use MX tools on vanilla Debian and I think Q4OS has pretty much all of them available for installation (older versions).

I use LMDE to try new things, since setting up Cinnamon 6.2 on MX-23 involved a lot of work to keep MX-23 in a clean state.

These distros complement each other in a great way. LMDE is more geared toward beginners and MX Linux is more geared toward desktop Linux explorers I would say.

I do like Xfce a lot. It occupies less installed space than your average web browser or electron app. It’s a stellar DE if you don’t need the conveniences of KDE or Cinnamon. Some Xfce apps are handy in any gtk3 based environment. Thunar, Xfce Task Manager and Xfce terminal are fine apps. Xfwm is pretty nice as a standalone window manager. Xfce panel has top notch plugins, but lack extension support and third party developers.

[AK-47]

Playing the devil's advocate for a bit though, once you get past the annoying "SEGue to a MESsage! From our SPONsor!" ads smack-bang at some random-ish point in the video, LTT is actually not that bad for info about hardware and such. His advice on building PCs is decent, and given LTT are essentially in the business of reviewing esoteric hardware and such it is no surprise their focus is primarily on Windows, and comments his comments about Linux in that context (especially regarding the faff-about) aren't entirely unjustified.

Sometimes even Mint needs a bit of faffing about to work well on some hardware, and MX and others need it too. Hell, even as devs we're faffing about a lot trying to cater for inadequacies in Debian's default settings and packages to get hardware and other such things working correctly.
So while I do agree that the situation has improved considerably since 2005, we do have to remember the target audience are not Linux geeks like us, but Windows users (who just want their PCs to work), noobs (who understandably don't know where to start), and average users.

Being in denial is not going to help anyone either, it does no good to respond to a user who is unable to get a game working under Linux/Wine with "oh you shouldn't be playing that game in the first place". Like saying "you shouldn't play chess, try backgammon instead." But what if I want to play chess? Is it illegal to play chess?

I will agree with the OP on one thing though: I am noticing Windows breaking a hell of a lot more than previously especially with the likes of Windows 11. I don't see it being enough for a Year-of-the-Linux-desktop* but more people are considering Linux now. And, including Android and embedded devices or highly custom OSes in the Linux usage stats is a very disingenuous way to argue the market share game, we're talking desktops, gaming rigs and workstations here.

* North Korea is the only place I know of that has actually reached the year of the Linux desktop.

[asqwerth]

.... After I installed Cinnamon 6.2 from LMDE on MX-23 I felt I had the desktop I was looking for (I don’t recommend doing this, but it won’t be necessary on Debian Trixie).

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I use LMDE to try new things, since setting up Cinnamon 6.2 on MX-23 involved a lot of work to keep MX-23 in a clean state.

These distros complement each other in a great way. LMDE is more geared toward beginners and MX Linux is more geared toward desktop Linux explorers I would say.

I do like Xfce a lot. It occupies less installed space than your average web browser or electron app. It’s a stellar DE if you don’t need the conveniences of KDE or Cinnamon. Some Xfce apps are handy in any gtk3 based environment. Thunar, Xfce Task Manager and Xfce terminal are fine apps. Xfwm is pretty nice as a standalone window manager. Xfce panel has top notch plugins, but lack extension support and third party developers.
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What I like in Cinnamon [which is the DE for my Void install] that XFCE doesn't have is the windows overview activated by a hot corner.

I'm just glad that XFCE still works very well with Compiz so I can turn it on once in a while to enjoy all the bells and whistles. While skippy-xd will give you windows overview in xfce and is easily bound to shortcut keys, I'm more of a mouse-user rather than a keyboard shortcut user, so I have to jerryrig a hot-corner solution by copying over the bunsenlabs hotcorner script, the config rc file, and make myself a desktop launcher. In the past, the XFCE hotcorner plugin was a great tool but it doesn't work with the current xfce. xfdashboard's hotcorner tool is only for the activation of xfdashboard itself and i've never gotten it to work in MX23 in any case. I in fact use bunsenlabs' hotcorner script to set corners for xfdashboard and for skippy-xd.

Other than that, I really like the simple setup of XFCE and the modularity of its various applications. I use XFCE terminal in my Gnome installs [Arch, Fedora], because gnome terminal no longer has transparency.

PS. Nautilus is also no fun, so I use Nemo as the file manager in Gnome.

[rokytnji.1]

never wanted to see myself on camera and my writing styles and engilsh leaves much to be desired

this was how i tried to help . i quit that site for time concern reasons with motorcycle projects.

http://yatsite.blogspot.com/2009/07/ins ... e-900.html

i guess being old school. i prefer the written manuals with pictures included

like

https://www.linuxliteos.com/manual/index.html

too each their own druthers i say. sometimes hard being picky though when searching. learning google search terms helped me a bunch.

https://docs.google.com/document/d/19g- ... =1&tab=t.0

another thing to look out for is linux moves fast and a lot of how tos are outdated. gotta remember stuff like this;

the written how to back when i ran antiX 22 on this chromebook for sound and power button control tinished the antiX 22 install on this gear.
https://blog.nanax.fr/post/2018-05-01-chromebook-linux/
https://www.antixforum.com/forums/topic ... -full-iso/

still helping in my own way since i do forum support now. runwiththe dolphin is more energetic than me and better educated
in fact. imo. the forum members here that help are miles above me when driving linux in their heads.