Copying from NTFS USB drive - Thunar freezes

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Re: Copying from NTFS USB drive - Thunar freezes

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@pax-eterna wrote:
Sorry have been away from forum for a while....is it possible to add a swap file post installation? And if so best way to do this?
thanks
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Re: Copying from NTFS USB drive - Thunar freezes

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No worries. Yes, very easy to do. Here are a couple of links that show how to.

https://www.digitalocean.com/community/ ... -debian-11

https://www.howtogeek.com/455981/how-to ... -on-linux/
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Re: Copying from NTFS USB drive - Thunar freezes

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j2mcgreg wrote: Tue Oct 29, 2024 1:50 pm @pax-eterna wrote:
Sorry have been away from forum for a while....is it possible to add a swap file post installation? And if so best way to do this?
thanks
Here are easy to follow instructions:
https://www.digitalocean.com/community/ ... -debian-11

thank you.

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Re: Copying from NTFS USB drive - Thunar freezes

#14 Post by pax-eterna »

CharlesV wrote: Tue Oct 29, 2024 1:53 pm No worries. Yes, very easy to do. Here are a couple of links that show how to.

https://www.digitalocean.com/community/ ... -debian-11

https://www.howtogeek.com/455981/how-to ... -on-linux/
And also thanks!

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Re: Copying from NTFS USB drive - Thunar freezes

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Your very welcome!
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#16 Post by LU344928 »

If I can just add, in my experience it's always better to use a file-copy utility rather than doing a copy/paste with the file manager. Grsync is reliable, and it's in the repo.
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Re: Copying from NTFS USB drive - Thunar freezes

#17 Post by User0x55 »

Was the problem ever solved or is a workaround suggested?

Unfortunately I'm having the same issues with an external NTFS drive encrypted with Bitlocker.
I need to move my data from Windows to MX Linux and twice I had to resort to REISUB to shut my PC down (once using Thunar and once using cp).
Now I'm scared to damage the system when doing this.

I may try to copy my files in small chunks, but this is quite tedious and I'm not sure it will really help.
In other forums in similar cases it was suggested to blacklist the ntfs3 driver and use ntfs-3g.
What do you guys recommend?

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Re: Copying from NTFS USB drive - Thunar freezes

#18 Post by fehlix »

User0x55 wrote: Thu Jan 02, 2025 3:18 pm Was the problem ever solved or is a workaround suggested?

Unfortunately I'm having the same issues with an external NTFS drive encrypted with Bitlocker.
I need to move my data from Windows to MX Linux and twice I had to resort to REISUB to shut my PC down (once using Thunar and once using cp).
Now I'm scared to damage the system when doing this.

I may try to copy my files in small chunks, but this is quite tedious and I'm not sure it will really help.
In other forums in similar cases it was suggested to blacklist the ntfs3 driver and use ntfs-3g.
What do you guys recommend?
That's worth a trial "ntfs3" b/c ntfs3 is a fairly new add lots of nice "Windows" stuff to the NTFS game.
So yes, blacklist ntfs3, you can also try temporary
with boot paramter

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module_blacklist=ntfs3
which should convince the kernel to not load any buildin ntfs3 driver, if that works
make it permanent by create a blacklist file.
Also note: For Data-"sharing" partitions with Windows, I do always prefer exFat.
Maybe think about it, no fancy NTFS under the hood hidden tweaks,
works fast. No journaling , fine but for "Data" that may be sufficient.
Also as I don't like the "wrong" default permission, I have exfat mount "rules" which makes it as it should be
all files read/write not executable and only folders get a execuable bit to allow navigating into.

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Re: Copying from NTFS USB drive - Thunar freezes

#19 Post by User0x55 »

Thanks for the info! :happy:

Quick update: copying data in smaller chunks did not help (the boot parameter was not set), copying still stalled after a while.
I then switched to my other drive (encrypted with Truecrypt, not Bitlocker) and set module_blacklist=ntfs3 - this worked without problems!

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