Huge diff. between FileLight, Disk mgr and partition mgr

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#1 Post by **MarieSophie** » Mon Jul 22, 2024 7:54 am

Hello,
After removing win10 from my disk, I no longer need D:\User\Documents
I moved all (mot of) the data on the NTFS partition to an external disk, so I can swipe the NTFS partition and keep a Linux-only disk
Before moving,
The partition is 641Gb and was about 85% full
CzKawKa and DetWinner allowed me to trim it down to 71%
I also applied it to my /home

Now I have 3 app gives me 2 different info
- KDE partition mgr tells me that the /dev/sda14 is 231,84GB used out of 641GB
- Disk mgr says the same, 641GB, 409,1 free
- FileFlight says something completely different (and more in line with what is expected) 1,4GB used out of 641GB, mainly trashcan and system files which couldn't be moved due to name length
How come such discrepancy ?
Is it safe to delete the partition as-is or should I investigate further ?

#2 Post by **j2mcgreg** » Mon Jul 22, 2024 8:41 am

QSI please.

#3 Post by **MarieSophie** » Mon Jul 22, 2024 8:55 am

j2mcgreg wrote: Mon Jul 22, 2024 8:41 amQSI please.

not sure how this is/will is necessary ? or just a "reflex" standard question ? (please let me know what you would be looking for, for my own knowledge)

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Snapshot created on: 20240710_1935
System:
  Kernel: 6.1.0-22-amd64 [6.1.94-1] arch: x86_64 bits: 64 compiler: gcc v: 12.2.0
    parameters: BOOT_IMAGE=/vmlinuz-6.1.0-22-amd64 root=UUID=<filter> ro quiet splash
  Desktop: KDE Plasma v: 5.27.5 wm: kwin_x11 vt: 7 dm: SDDM Distro: MX-23.3_KDE_x64 Libretto May
    19 2024 base: Debian GNU/Linux 12 (bookworm)
Machine:
  Type: Laptop System: LENOVO product: 20AN006NCA v: ThinkPad T440p serial: <superuser required>
CPU:
  Info: model: Intel Core i7-4910MQ bits: 64 type: MT MCP arch: Haswell gen: core 4 level: v3
  Topology: cpus: 1x cores: 4 tpc: 2 threads: 8 smt: enabled cache: L1: 256 KiB
    desc: d-4x32 KiB; i-4x32 KiB L2: 1024 KiB desc: 4x256 KiB L3: 8 MiB desc: 1x8 MiB
Graphics:
  Device-1: Intel 4th Gen Core Processor Integrated Graphics vendor: Lenovo driver: i915 v: kernel
  Device-2: NVIDIA GK208M [GeForce GT 730M] vendor: Lenovo driver: nvidia v: 470.256.02 non-free:
    series: 470.xx+ status: legacy-active (EOL~2023/24) arch: Kepler code: GKxxx process: TSMC 28nm
  Device-3: Chicony Integrated Camera type: USB driver: uvcvideo bus-ID: 1-12:4
    chip-ID: 04f2:b39a class-ID: 0e02
  Display: x11 server: X.Org v: 1.21.1.7 with: Xwayland v: 22.1.9 compositor: kwin_x11 driver: X:
    loaded: modesetting,nvidia unloaded: fbdev,nouveau,vesa alternate: nv dri: crocus gpu: i915
    display-ID: :0 screens: 1
  API: OpenGL v: 4.6 Mesa 23.1.2-1~mx23ahs renderer: Mesa Intel HD Graphics 4600 (HSW GT2)
    direct-render: Yes
Audio:
  Device-1: Intel Xeon E3-1200 v3/4th Gen Core Processor HD Audio vendor: Lenovo ThinkPad T440p
  Device-2: Intel 8 Series/C220 Series High Definition Audio vendor: Lenovo ThinkPad T440p
  API: ALSA v: k6.1.0-22-amd64 status: kernel-api tools: alsamixer,amixer
  Server-1: PipeWire v: 1.0.0 status: active with: 1: pipewire-pulse status: active
Drives:
  Local Storage: total: 3.88 TiB used: 1.24 TiB (32.0%)
SSHD:
ID-1: /dev/sda maj-min: 8:0 vendor: Western Digital model: WD20SPZX-22UA7T0 size: 1.82 TiB
    block-size: physical: 4096 B logical: 512 B speed: 6.0 Gb/s type: HDD rpm: 5400 serial: <filter>
    rev: 1A01 scheme: GPT
m-SATA: (Mini-SATA, = SATA in NVMe form factor)
  ID-2: /dev/sdb maj-min: 8:16 vendor: Dogfish Technology model: SSD 512GB size: 476.94 GiB
    block-size: physical: 512 B logical: 512 B speed: 6.0 Gb/s type: SSD serial: <filter> rev: 1A0
    scheme: GPT
  ID-3: /dev/sdc maj-min: 8:32 type: USB vendor: Sabrent model: SABRENT size: 931.51 GiB
    block-size: physical: 4096 B logical: 512 B type: N/A serial: <filter> rev: 0104 scheme: MBR
  ID-5: /dev/sdg maj-min: 8:96 type: USB vendor: Western Digital model: WD7500L12X-55JTET0
    size: 698.64 GiB block-size: physical: 512 B logical: 512 B type: HDD rpm: 5400 serial: <filter>
Partition:
  ID-1: / raw-size: 128 GiB size: 124.93 GiB (97.60%) used: 15.43 GiB (12.3%) fs: ext4
    dev: /dev/sdb3 maj-min: 8:19
  ID-2: /boot raw-size: 1024 MiB size: 973.4 MiB (95.06%) used: 192.5 MiB (19.8%) fs: ext4
    dev: /dev/sdb2 maj-min: 8:18
  ID-3: /tmp raw-size: 32 GiB size: 31.2 GiB (97.50%) used: 37.1 MiB (0.1%) fs: ext4
    dev: /dev/sda2 maj-min: 8:2
Swap:
  Kernel: swappiness: 15 (default 60) cache-pressure: 100 (default)
  ID-1: swap-1 type: partition size: 32 GiB used: 3.69 GiB (11.5%) priority: -2 dev: /dev/sda1
    maj-min: 8:1
Sensors:
  System Temperatures: cpu: 60.0 C mobo: N/A
  Fan Speeds (RPM): fan-1: 2707
Repos:
  Packages: 2701 pm: dpkg pkgs: 2690 libs: 1443 tools: apt,apt-get,aptitude,nala pm: rpm pkgs: 0
    pm: flatpak pkgs: 11
  No active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list
Info:
  Processes: 391 Uptime: 10d 5h 32m wakeups: 2 Memory: 15.5 GiB used: 12.02 GiB (77.6%)
  Init: SysVinit v: 3.06 runlevel: 5 default: graphical tool: systemctl Compilers: gcc: 12.2.0
  alt: 12 Client: shell wrapper v: 5.2.15-release inxi: 3.3.26
Boot Mode: UEFI

#4 Post by **asqwerth** » Mon Jul 22, 2024 9:21 am

You have no repos enabled?!

#5 Post by **j2mcgreg** » Mon Jul 22, 2024 9:29 am

@MarieSophie
Please post the complete QSI report.

#6 Post by **Eadwine Rose** » Mon Jul 22, 2024 9:29 am

MarieSophie wrote: Mon Jul 22, 2024 8:55 am
not sure how this is/will is necessary ? or just a "reflex" standard question ? (please let me know what you would be looking for, for my own knowledge)

Mandatory, as per forum rules.

It is so we can better help you solve issues.

#7 Post by **MarieSophie** » Mon Jul 22, 2024 9:55 am

Eadwine Rose wrote: Mon Jul 22, 2024 9:29 am
MarieSophie wrote: Mon Jul 22, 2024 8:55 am
not sure how this is/will is necessary ? or just a "reflex" standard question ? (please let me know what you would be looking for, for my own knowledge)
Mandatory, as per forum rules.

It is so we can better help you solve issues.

I understand the forum rule,
But I don't understand the need, my autism makes me bug when I don't understand something,
Like the remark from @askwerth about the repos, I don't see how this is related to the way Disk mgr vs FileFlight reads the partition usage ?
And the "don't reflect, just do it" is not an option, I mean it's like a wall to me.

#8 Post by **MarieSophie** » Mon Jul 22, 2024 9:56 am

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Snapshot created on: 20240710_1935
System:
  Kernel: 6.1.0-22-amd64 [6.1.94-1] arch: x86_64 bits: 64 compiler: gcc v: 12.2.0
    parameters: BOOT_IMAGE=/vmlinuz-6.1.0-22-amd64 root=UUID=<filter> ro quiet splash
  Desktop: KDE Plasma v: 5.27.5 wm: kwin_x11 vt: 7 dm: SDDM Distro: MX-23.3_KDE_x64 Libretto May
    19 2024 base: Debian GNU/Linux 12 (bookworm)
Machine:
  Type: Laptop System: LENOVO product: 20AN006NCA v: ThinkPad T440p serial: <superuser required>
    Chassis: type: 10 serial: <superuser required>
  Mobo: LENOVO model: 20AN006NCA v: 0B98401 WIN serial: <superuser required> UEFI: LENOVO
    v: GLET98WW (2.52 ) date: 02/27/2019
Battery:
  ID-1: BAT0 charge: 33.2 Wh (80.6%) condition: 41.2/99.5 Wh (41.4%) volts: 11.5 min: 11.1
    model: LGC 45N1153 type: Li-ion serial: <filter> status: not charging
CPU:
  Info: model: Intel Core i7-4910MQ bits: 64 type: MT MCP arch: Haswell gen: core 4 level: v3
    note: check built: 2013-15 process: Intel 22nm family: 6 model-id: 0x3C (60) stepping: 3
    microcode: 0x28
  Topology: cpus: 1x cores: 4 tpc: 2 threads: 8 smt: enabled cache: L1: 256 KiB
    desc: d-4x32 KiB; i-4x32 KiB L2: 1024 KiB desc: 4x256 KiB L3: 8 MiB desc: 1x8 MiB
  Speed (MHz): avg: 1169 high: 1418 min/max: 800/3900 scaling: driver: intel_cpufreq
    governor: ondemand cores: 1: 1098 2: 1098 3: 1098 4: 1037 5: 1246 6: 1271 7: 1092 8: 1418
    bogomips: 46295
  Flags: avx avx2 ht lm nx pae sse sse2 sse3 sse4_1 sse4_2 ssse3 vmx
  Vulnerabilities:
  Type: gather_data_sampling status: Not affected
  Type: itlb_multihit status: KVM: VMX disabled
  Type: l1tf mitigation: PTE Inversion; VMX: conditional cache flushes, SMT vulnerable
  Type: mds mitigation: Clear CPU buffers; SMT vulnerable
  Type: meltdown mitigation: PTI
  Type: mmio_stale_data status: Unknown: No mitigations
  Type: reg_file_data_sampling status: Not affected
  Type: retbleed status: Not affected
  Type: spec_rstack_overflow status: Not affected
  Type: spec_store_bypass mitigation: Speculative Store Bypass disabled via prctl
  Type: spectre_v1 mitigation: usercopy/swapgs barriers and __user pointer sanitization
  Type: spectre_v2 mitigation: Retpolines; IBPB: conditional; IBRS_FW; STIBP: conditional; RSB
    filling; PBRSB-eIBRS: Not affected; BHI: Not affected
  Type: srbds mitigation: Microcode
  Type: tsx_async_abort status: Not affected
Graphics:
  Device-1: Intel 4th Gen Core Processor Integrated Graphics vendor: Lenovo driver: i915 v: kernel
    arch: Gen-7.5 process: Intel 22nm built: 2013 ports: active: eDP-1 empty: DP-1, DP-2, HDMI-A-1,
    HDMI-A-2, VGA-1 bus-ID: 00:02.0 chip-ID: 8086:0416 class-ID: 0300
  Device-2: NVIDIA GK208M [GeForce GT 730M] vendor: Lenovo driver: nvidia v: 470.256.02 non-free:
    series: 470.xx+ status: legacy-active (EOL~2023/24) arch: Kepler code: GKxxx process: TSMC 28nm
    built: 2012-18 pcie: gen: 1 speed: 2.5 GT/s lanes: 8 link-max: gen: 3 speed: 8 GT/s
    bus-ID: 02:00.0 chip-ID: 10de:1290 class-ID: 0300
  Device-3: Chicony Integrated Camera type: USB driver: uvcvideo bus-ID: 1-12:4
    chip-ID: 04f2:b39a class-ID: 0e02
  Display: x11 server: X.Org v: 1.21.1.7 with: Xwayland v: 22.1.9 compositor: kwin_x11 driver: X:
    loaded: modesetting,nvidia unloaded: fbdev,nouveau,vesa alternate: nv dri: crocus gpu: i915
    display-ID: :0 screens: 1
  Screen-1: 0 s-res: 1600x900 s-dpi: 96 s-size: 423x238mm (16.65x9.37") s-diag: 485mm (19.11")
  Monitor-1: eDP-1 model: LG Display 0x03fc built: 2013 res: 1600x900 hz: 60 dpi: 132 gamma: 1.2
    size: 309x174mm (12.17x6.85") diag: 355mm (14") ratio: 16:9 modes: 1600x900
  API: OpenGL v: 4.6 Mesa 23.1.2-1~mx23ahs renderer: Mesa Intel HD Graphics 4600 (HSW GT2)
    direct-render: Yes
Audio:
  Device-1: Intel Xeon E3-1200 v3/4th Gen Core Processor HD Audio vendor: Lenovo ThinkPad T440p
    driver: snd_hda_intel v: kernel bus-ID: 00:03.0 chip-ID: 8086:0c0c class-ID: 0403
  Device-2: Intel 8 Series/C220 Series High Definition Audio vendor: Lenovo ThinkPad T440p
    driver: snd_hda_intel v: kernel bus-ID: 00:1b.0 chip-ID: 8086:8c20 class-ID: 0403
  API: ALSA v: k6.1.0-22-amd64 status: kernel-api tools: alsamixer,amixer
  Server-1: PipeWire v: 1.0.0 status: active with: 1: pipewire-pulse status: active
    2: wireplumber status: active 3: pipewire-alsa type: plugin 4: pw-jack type: plugin
    tools: pactl,pw-cat,pw-cli,wpctl
Network:
  Device-1: Intel Ethernet I217-LM vendor: Lenovo ThinkPad T440p driver: e1000e v: kernel
    port: 4080 bus-ID: 00:19.0 chip-ID: 8086:153a class-ID: 0200
  IF: eth0 state: up speed: 1000 Mbps duplex: full mac: <filter>
  Device-2: Intel Wireless 7260 driver: iwlwifi v: kernel modules: wl pcie: gen: 1
    speed: 2.5 GT/s lanes: 1 bus-ID: 04:00.0 chip-ID: 8086:08b2 class-ID: 0280
  IF: wlan0 state: down mac: <filter>
  Device-3: Realtek RTL8153 Gigabit Ethernet Adapter type: USB driver: r8152 bus-ID: 1-6.2.1:7
    chip-ID: 0bda:8153 class-ID: 0000 serial: <filter>
  IF: eth1 state: down mac: <filter>
  IF-ID-1: pvpnksintrf1 state: unknown speed: N/A duplex: N/A mac: <filter>
  IF-ID-2: tun0 state: unknown speed: 10 Mbps duplex: full mac: N/A
Drives:
  Local Storage: total: 3.88 TiB used: 1.24 TiB (32.0%)
  SMART Message: Unable to run smartctl. Root privileges required.
  ID-1: /dev/sda maj-min: 8:0 vendor: Western Digital model: WD20SPZX-22UA7T0 size: 1.82 TiB
    block-size: physical: 4096 B logical: 512 B speed: 6.0 Gb/s type: HDD rpm: 5400 serial: <filter>
    rev: 1A01 scheme: GPT
  ID-2: /dev/sdb maj-min: 8:16 vendor: Dogfish Technology model: SSD 512GB size: 476.94 GiB
    block-size: physical: 512 B logical: 512 B speed: 6.0 Gb/s type: SSD serial: <filter> rev: 1A0
    scheme: GPT
  ID-3: /dev/sdc maj-min: 8:32 type: USB vendor: Sabrent model: SABRENT size: 931.51 GiB
    block-size: physical: 4096 B logical: 512 B type: N/A serial: <filter> rev: 0104 scheme: MBR
  ID-4: /dev/sdf maj-min: 8:80 type: USB vendor: Kingston model: DataTraveler 2.0 size: 953.9 MiB
    block-size: physical: 512 B logical: 512 B type: N/A serial: <filter> rev: 1.00 scheme: MBR
  SMART Message: Unknown USB bridge. Flash drive/Unsupported enclosure?
  ID-5: /dev/sdg maj-min: 8:96 type: USB vendor: Western Digital model: WD7500L12X-55JTET0
    size: 698.64 GiB block-size: physical: 512 B logical: 512 B type: HDD rpm: 5400 serial: <filter>
    rev: 1.08 scheme: GPT
Partition:
  ID-1: / raw-size: 128 GiB size: 124.93 GiB (97.60%) used: 15.43 GiB (12.3%) fs: ext4
    dev: /dev/sdb3 maj-min: 8:19
  ID-2: /boot raw-size: 1024 MiB size: 973.4 MiB (95.06%) used: 192.5 MiB (19.8%) fs: ext4
    dev: /dev/sdb2 maj-min: 8:18
  ID-3: /tmp raw-size: 32 GiB size: 31.2 GiB (97.50%) used: 37.7 MiB (0.1%) fs: ext4
    dev: /dev/sda2 maj-min: 8:2
Swap:
  Kernel: swappiness: 15 (default 60) cache-pressure: 100 (default)
  ID-1: swap-1 type: partition size: 32 GiB used: 3.68 GiB (11.5%) priority: -2 dev: /dev/sda1
    maj-min: 8:1
Sensors:
  System Temperatures: cpu: 61.0 C mobo: N/A
  Fan Speeds (RPM): fan-1: 3067
Repos:
  Packages: 2701 pm: dpkg pkgs: 2690 libs: 1443 tools: apt,apt-get,aptitude,nala pm: rpm pkgs: 0
    pm: flatpak pkgs: 11
  No active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list
  Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/brave-browser-release.list
    1: deb [signed-by=/usr/share/keyrings/brave-browser-archive-keyring.gpg arch=amd64] https://brave-browser-apt-release.s3.brave.com/ stable main
  Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian-stable-updates.list
    1: deb http://deb.debian.org/debian bookworm-updates main contrib non-free non-free-firmware
  Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian.list
    1: deb http://deb.debian.org/debian bookworm main contrib non-free non-free-firmware
    2: deb http://security.debian.org/debian-security bookworm-security main contrib non-free non-free-firmware
  Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/mx.list
    1: deb http://mirrors.rit.edu/mxlinux/mx-packages/mx/repo/ bookworm main non-free
    2: deb http://mirrors.rit.edu/mxlinux/mx-packages/mx/repo/ bookworm ahs
  Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/protonvpn-stable.list
    1: deb [arch="all", signed-by=/usr/share/keyrings/protonvpn-stable-archive-keyring.gpg] https://repo.protonvpn.com/debian stable main
  Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/tor.list
    1: deb [signed-by=/usr/share/keyrings/tor-archive-keyring.gpg arch=amd64] https://deb.torproject.org/torproject.org bookworm main
    2: deb-src [signed-by=/usr/share/keyrings/tor-archive-keyring.gpg arch=amd64] https://deb.torproject.org/torproject.org bookworm main
    3: deb [signed-by=/usr/share/keyrings/tor-archive-keyring.gpg] https://deb.torproject.org/torproject.org tor-experimental-bookworm main
    4: deb-src [signed-by=/usr/share/keyrings/tor-archive-keyring.gpg] https://deb.torproject.org/torproject.org tor-experimental-bookworm main
Info:
  Processes: 392 Uptime: 10d 6h 39m wakeups: 2 Memory: 15.5 GiB used: 11.47 GiB (74.0%)
  Init: SysVinit v: 3.06 runlevel: 5 default: graphical tool: systemctl Compilers: gcc: 12.2.0
  alt: 12 Client: shell wrapper v: 5.2.15-release inxi: 3.3.26
Boot Mode: UEFI

#9 Post by **Eadwine Rose** » Mon Jul 22, 2024 10:02 am

The need: It is so we can better help you solve issues.

Without that we are guessing. We don't like guessing.

Autistic here as well, but sometimes the world isn't catered, and we'll have to just suck it up, like all members have to.

#10 Post by **dolphin_oracle** » Mon Jul 22, 2024 11:54 am

hidden trash files? the usage would show up under the partition managers, but maybe not filelight. Is guess, but I generally trust the partition managers to show the space in use.

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