MX updater query [Solved]

[compass]

OK, I've been logged in to this install of MX LInux for approaching three hours now.

I notice that the MX Updater icon is showing my that I do not have updates.

But when I then OMB (other mouse button) click on the icon, and select "Check for Updates" I see that four updates are available.

Many times, when I use this laptop, the usage is brief, i.e., about an hour or so.

How do I configure the MX Updater to automagically check for updates for a certain tim eperiod after I log on to this laptop, and not have it wait until I need to actively query it about whether or not updates are available?

Is there a config option to ~check for updates~ after a certain time period after I log on?

[artytux]

Looking up the
MX Manual
3.2.1 MX Updater (former Apt-Notifier) This versatile applet (Xfce only, KDE uses Discover) sits in the Notification Area where it notifies you when packages are available. Be sure to check the important options available through the context (right-click) menu. If it doesn’t appear, launch MX Updater to refresh. Xfce only, KDE uses Discover.
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Since you have no info on about you installed Xfce or if KDE desktop anyway I don't stress about updates since this isn't a rolling distro usually do updates once a week, too easy, the other computer gets checked for updates only when it's online and that's just for updating that's not very often, the games played and that's very often, that's why I don't use notifs just update to the schedule just described .

[compass]

> Since you have no info on about you installed Xfce or if KDE desktop anyway

Apologies for that.

This install is Xfce.


> I don't stress about updates

Yeah, I do, because updates of installed apps (browser!) often mitigate security issues.

That is why I care about updates.

So, going back to my original query...

Is there an option to tell the MX Updater to check for u[dates after a certain time period since I've logged on?

Thanks for your reply.

[artytux]

'Yeah, I do, because updates of installed apps (browser!) often mitigate security issues.'
Fair enough too

How would I go about this is well you wrote that
'But when I then OMB (other mouse button) click on the icon, and select "Check for Updates" I see that four updates are available.'

I would check for updates soon after I had the computer up and running online and not wait for a notif then after done updates feel OK knowing the browser and any other updates are up to date,
sometimes it's easier on the system (you not the computer) to do it yourself and not rely notifs and automation especially when anything revolves around online security.

For peace of mind that is it .

Just an idea have ever thought about using the terminal for updates.

[FullScale4Me]

Right click MX Updater icon and select Preferences. At the very bottom is 'start MX Updater at login'.

[compass]

> At the very bottom is 'start MX Updater at login'.

Thanks for your reply.

That option is checked.

My question is not whether or not MX Updater has been started.

My question is -- how can I determine/configure how long it waits after I log-in before it decides to tell me about available updates.

[compass]

I would check for updates soon after I had the computer up and running online and not wait for a notif ...

Yeah, there's that aspect.

But I have a different view of computers.

I think that a computer should be able to do routine things and not require a user of the computer to do mundane tasks that can be scheduled.

I do admit that I may have a different view. than the view you seem to hold.

If so, please explain the apparent need for /etc/cron and all the associated directories.

thx.

[MXRobo]

Started before post #6
In MX-21.3 Xfce, 'start MX Updater at login' is/was checked by default, but I think the OP wants to know if the actual checking for update time-after-login or boot can be set. You could change this in many Xfce distros, but it's not readily available in MX. Something like check for updates 10 minutes after login, etc.

https://easylinuxtipsproject.blogspot.c ... pdate.html
#4 "Consider increasing the interval for checking for new updates"

MX must be different, and may use crontabs, anacrons, cronjobs or something.

Users Manual references:
https://mxlinux.org/wiki/help-files/hel ... -notifier/
and
~/.config/MX-Linux/apt-notifier.conf
which references:
/usr/share/apt-notifier/conf/apt-notifier.conf.d/01_apt-notifier.conf

Not sure where the defaults end, or what to actually adjust, did see

Probably not what you want, but:

To slow down the frequency of checking, change theAPT::Periodic::Update-Package-Lists setting in the /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/02periodic file from a “1” to a “7”, and keep the apt cron job in the cron.daily folder.

Quickly web searched apt-notifier how to adjust time, no luck.
https://www.forum.mxlinux.org/viewtopic ... 33#p564233
Good Luck!

[DukeComposed]

I would check for updates soon after I had the computer up and running online and not wait for a notif ...

Yeah, there's that aspect.

But I have a different view of computers.

I think that a computer should be able to do routine things and not require a user of the computer to do mundane tasks that can be scheduled.

I do admit that I may have a different view. than the view you seem to hold.

If so, please explain the apparent need for /etc/cron and all the associated directories.

thx.

MX Updater already sets a timer to check for updates approximately once every minute. It skips most of these checks if the files it watches for updates haven't been changed and if the user hasn't instantiated the check. If you want to force updates to occur shortly after you login, run "apt-get update" shortly after you log in.

As for cron: if you expect computers to be able to do mundane tasks on a schedule, how do you think they know what a schedule is?

[compass]

> MX Updater already sets a timer to check for updates approximately once every minute.

If that is the case, then why do I not see the "updates available" icon rendition unless and until I specifically click on the "Check for Update" menu option?

What you say occurs is what I would like to see occur.

So, where is the discrepancy?