System will not boot with PCIE GPU card installed. MX 23.1

[Charlie Brown]

Maybe the card is not considered as Nvidia ...

I would try nomodeset once more (it may work now) on Grub...

[oops]

nvidia-detect-mx # may help.

[LateJunction]

Maybe the card is not considered as Nvidia ...

I would try nomodeset once more (it may work now) on Grub...

I feel that it is almost time to announce that there is a problem with MX Linux 23.1, using liquorix kernel 6.4.15-2, that cannot be solved - which implies that MX Linux cannot be used on my PC. To see if there are any final insights or suggestions, I would like to change the title of this post to "MX linux 23.1 will not boot on my PC" - dropping reference to not booting when a GPU card is installed, because I am now at the point where the grub screen is presented, even with the GPU card installed. But no matter which option I then take on the grub screen the system presents a screen with 3 lines:
1. Booting MX 23.1 Libretto
2. Loading Linux 6.4.15-2-liquorix-amd64 ...
3. Loading initial ramdisk ...

Nothing further happens. MX linux 23.1 does not boot.

This raises a question for me: how could I submit this is a bug to the developers when I cannot provide any additional information gathered by diagnostic tools - because I cannot boot MX?

[LateJunction]

Maybe the card is not considered as Nvidia ...

I would try nomodeset once more (it may work now) on Grub...

I have included that option in every edit of the grub boot screen since you first suggested it - because I remember it was useful about 15 years or more ago during problems with starting Suse Linux (I think). It;s just slightly irritating that I cannot get to edit the grub definition file directly while I cannot boot MX.

[LateJunction]

nvidia-detect-mx # may help.

This comment proved useful: it told me my card does not appear to have any issues and is supported by a number of drivers. I was also able to 'apt install nvidia.driver' which download a lot of packages, implying to me that there were no drivers installed for this card up to this point. Which I think is understandable because I could install MX only with the nvidia card removed from the PC.

However, none of that enabled the boot to complete: it still 'freezes; after the 'loading initial ramdisk ...' message.

[oops]

For your card, maybe nvidia-legacy-390xx-driver is better (with kernel 6.6 is better too: https://www.phoronix.com/news/Linux-6.6 ... DIA-Change)

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sudo ddm-mx -i nvidia -f nvidia-legacy-390xx-driver

sudo ddm-mx -p nvidia #to unistall

[LateJunction]

I think it is time to close this topic as 'cannot be solved' = but I do not see any way to close a topic in this forum other than by marking it solved. It has become very clear to me that this issue was not going to be resolved, so I decided earlier today to accept that MX Linux is unable to work on this PC, to re-install Win 10 (which I know works) and sell the PC as a working device. However, as demonstrated by my earlier posts, I do have an unbounded capability for ineptitude; I began the re-install of the system using my MX bootable USB rather than the Win 10 USB ("all you USB sticks look the same to me"). A couple of hours later, bearing in mind I decided to try to retain my /home directory and that I do have 3 drives in this system, I have got my self an MX 23.1 install, booting the liquorix 6.4.15-2 kernel (with iommu=off) exploiting my Zotac nvidia card and all my USB 3.0 ports enabled..

My sincere thanks to all of you who have given so much of your time to try to fix this issue. I guess we will now never know why MX wouldn't install 4 weeks ago, but it has now. I did learn however that solving such install problems is not straightforward, combining potential issues in hardware, BIOS setup, kernel options and OS configuration.. I should have re-installed Win 10 a month ago and saved my self many hours of frustration.

[LateJunction]

For your card, maybe nvidia-legacy-390xx-driver is better (with kernel 6.6 is better too: https://www.phoronix.com/news/Linux-6.6 ... DIA-Change)

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sudo ddm-mx -i nvidia -f nvidia-legacy-390xx-driver

sudo ddm-mx -pi nvidia #to unistall

Possibly - however the latest (nvidia-driver-535 ?) works with this card in Mint 21.3 and LMDE6 (I do have an issue with starting OpenCL in darktable, but I think that is a setup issue which is almost certainly a user-error).

Thanks for the info on kernel 6.6. I was intrigued to notice that, following install the MX Package Manager was unable to find that liquorix 6.5.xxx package. so that most up to date kernel I can find so far is 6.4

[oops]

You're welcome ... good luck.

[Charlie Brown]

... MX Package Manager was unable to find that liquorix 6.5.xxx package. so that most up to date kernel I can find so far is 6.4 ...

But... MXPI (the initial tab) is full of kernels, either Debian and Liquorix 6.5 .. 6.6 ...

You can even do this: viewtopic.php?p=763021#p763021

(I, too did that) :

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$ uname -a
Linux hp 6.7.1-1-liquorix-amd64 #1 ZEN SMP PREEMPT liquorix 6.7-1.1~bookworm (2024-01-20) x86_64 GNU/Linux