linux kernel 6.1.0.15 causing crashes in mx linux 23.1 flagship Xfce edition?

[SimplyFojin]

login seems to be OK. I'm running the kernel now.

Is that all I have to do, try to log in?

Makes me thinking next time I reboot my computer is just go into 6.1.0.13 instead. I wonder if its still a risk for me to continue using 6.1.0.14.

the risk was apparently ext4 file system corruption. I don' t know how likely that is.

could you have an incomplete update?

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sudo dpkg --configure -a

So what your saying is that I shouldn't even use 6.1.0.13 ever again? Even though it works for me? Again, 6.1.0.15 causes crashing and no internet.

[dolphin_oracle]

you asked about the risk to 6.1.0.14. 6.1.0.13 did not have the ext4 file system problem as far as I know.

[dolphin_oracle]

FWIW, the 6.1.0-13 kernels are still in the debian repo and accessible.

[SimplyFojin]

FWIW, the 6.1.0-13 kernels are still in the debian repo and accessible.

What about history in package manager? This is what I spotted today.

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2023-12-10  12:09:36  upgrade  system-keyboard-qt                 amd64  23.12.01mx23                     23.12.02mx23
2023-12-10  12:09:35  upgrade  quick-system-info-gui              amd64  23.09.01                         23.12.01
2023-12-10  12:09:34  upgrade  mx-usb-unmounter                   amd64  23.02                            23.12
2023-12-10  12:09:33  upgrade  mx-tweak                           amd64  23.11.01mx23                     23.12.01mx23
2023-12-10  12:09:32  upgrade  mx-remastercc                      amd64  23.6                             23.7
2023-12-10  12:09:31  upgrade  mx-codecs                          amd64  23.7.02                          23.7.03
2023-12-10  12:09:30  upgrade  linux-libc-dev                     amd64  6.1.64-1                         6.1.66-1
2023-12-10  12:09:29  upgrade  linux-image-amd64                  amd64  6.1.64-1                         6.1.66-1
2023-12-10  12:09:16  install  linux-image-6.1.0-15-amd64         amd64  <none>                           6.1.66-1
2023-12-10  12:09:15  upgrade  linux-headers-amd64                amd64  6.1.64-1                         6.1.66-1
2023-12-10  12:09:12  install  linux-headers-6.1.0-15-amd64       amd64  <none>                           6.1.66-1
2023-12-10  12:09:11  upgrade  linux-kbuild-6.1                   amd64  6.1.64-1                         6.1.66-1
2023-12-10  12:09:06  install  linux-headers-6.1.0-15-common      all    <none>                           6.1.66-1
2023-12-10  12:09:05  upgrade  linux-compiler-gcc-12-x86          amd64  6.1.64-1                         6.1.66-1
2023-12-10  12:09:04  upgrade  formatusb                          amd64  23.11.01                         23.11.03
2023-12-10  12:09:02  upgrade  bash-config                        amd64  23.07.01                         23.07.02
2023-12-10  12:08:21  remove   linux-image-6.1.0-12-amd64         amd64  6.1.52-1                         <none>
2023-12-10  12:08:20  remove   linux-headers-6.1.0-12-amd64       amd64  6.1.52-1                         <none>
2023-12-10  12:08:18  upgrade  base-files                         amd64  12.4+deb12u3  

And for yesterday...

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2023-12-09  14:37:23  upgrade  python3-distro-info                all    1.5                              1.5+deb12u1
2023-12-09  14:37:22  upgrade  nvidia-detect                      amd64  525.125.06-1~deb12u1             525.147.05-4~deb12u1
2023-12-09  14:37:21  upgrade  network-manager-openconnect        amd64  1.2.8-3                          1.2.8-3+deb12u1
2023-12-09  14:37:20  upgrade  network-manager-openconnect-gnome  amd64  1.2.8-3                          1.2.8-3+deb12u1
2023-12-09  14:37:19  upgrade  linux-libc-dev                     amd64  6.1.55-1                         6.1.64-1
2023-12-09  14:37:18  upgrade  linux-image-amd64                  amd64  6.1.55-1                         6.1.64-1
2023-12-09  14:37:05  install  linux-image-6.1.0-14-amd64         amd64  <none>                           6.1.64-1
2023-12-09  14:37:04  upgrade  linux-headers-amd64                amd64  6.1.55-1                         6.1.64-1
2023-12-09  14:37:01  install  linux-headers-6.1.0-14-amd64       amd64  <none>                           6.1.64-1
2023-12-09  14:37:00  upgrade  linux-kbuild-6.1                   amd64  6.1.55-1                         6.1.64-1
2023-12-09  14:36:56  install  linux-headers-6.1.0-14-common      all    <none>                           6.1.64-1
2023-12-09  14:36:55  upgrade  linux-compiler-gcc-12-x86          amd64  6.1.55-1                         6.1.64-1
2023-12-09  14:36:54  upgrade  libqpdf29                          amd64  11.3.0-1                         11.3.0-1+deb12u1
2023-12-09  14:36:53  upgrade  libminizip1                        amd64  1.1-8+b1                         1.1-8+deb12u1
2023-12-09  14:36:53  upgrade  libde265-0                         amd64  1.0.11-1                         1.0.11-1+deb12u1
2023-12-09  14:36:51  upgrade  exfatprogs                         amd64  1.2.0-1                          1.2.0-1+deb12u1
2023-12-09  14:36:50  upgrade  distro-info-data                   all    0.58                             0.58+deb12u1
2023-12-09  14:36:49  upgrade  ca-certificates-java               all    20230620~deb12u1                 20230710~deb12u1
2023-12-09  14:36:47  upgrade  tzdata                             all    2023c-5                          2023c-5+deb12u1
2023-12-09  14:36:46  upgrade  libcups2                           amd64  2.4.2-3+deb12u4                  2.4.2-3+deb12u5
2023-12-09  14:36:44  upgrade  libgnutls30                        amd64  3.7.9-2                          3.7.9-2+deb12u1
2023-12-09  14:36:43  upgrade  cups                               amd64  2.4.2-3+deb12u4                  2.4.2-3+deb12u5
2023-12-09  14:36:42  upgrade  cups-daemon                        amd64  2.4.2-3+deb12u4                  2.4.2-3+deb12u5
2023-12-09  14:36:41  upgrade  cups-server-common                 all    2.4.2-3+deb12u4                  2.4.2-3+deb12u5
2023-12-09  14:36:40  upgrade  cups-ppdc                          amd64  2.4.2-3+deb12u4                  2.4.2-3+deb12u5
2023-12-09  14:36:39  upgrade  cups-core-drivers                  amd64  2.4.2-3+deb12u4                  2.4.2-3+deb12u5
2023-12-09  14:36:39  upgrade  cups-client                        amd64  2.4.2-3+deb12u4                  2.4.2-3+deb12u5
2023-12-09  14:36:38  upgrade  cups-bsd                           amd64  2.4.2-3+deb12u4                  2.4.2-3+deb12u5
2023-12-09  14:36:37  upgrade  cups-common                        all    2.4.2-3+deb12u4                  2.4.2-3+deb12u5
2023-12-09  14:36:36  upgrade  cups-ipp-utils                     amd64  2.4.2-3+deb12u4                  2.4.2-3+deb12u5
2023-12-09  14:36:34  upgrade  perl-modules-5.36                  all    5.36.0-7                         5.36.0-7+deb12u1
2023-12-09  14:36:32  upgrade  perl-base                          amd64  5.36.0-7                         5.36.0-7+deb12u1
2023-12-09  14:36:31  upgrade  perl                               amd64  5.36.0-7                         5.36.0-7+deb12u1
2023-12-09  14:36:29  upgrade  libperl5.36                        amd64  5.36.0-7                         5.36.0-7+deb12u1
2023-12-09  14:36:26  upgrade  base-files                         amd64  12.4+deb12u2 

[dolphin_oracle]

nothing jumping out at me.

the dpkg --configure -a command, if it didn't' return any output, would indicate the updates are complete at least. that would still leave the question of why the -15 kernel doesn't work correctly,but at least you would know the updates were complete.

[SimplyFojin]

nothing jumping out at me.

the dpkg --configure -a command, if it didn't' return any output, would indicate the updates are complete at least. that would still leave the question of why the -15 kernel doesn't work correctly,but at least you would know the updates were complete.

Updates were complete by typing

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sudo dpkg --configure -a

then entering my password? I did try that and their wasn't output. So I think the updating process is completed like you said.

[j2mcgreg]

@SimplyFojin
I think that your best bet would be to use Boot Options in MX Tools to roll back to the 6.1.0-13 kernel. That's what I did on my Aspire V5 as soon as the kernel problem was identified.

@Lfever
You should use Repo Manager in MX Tools (Individual Sources tab) to enable the AHS repo, log out / in and then run the new updates, Finally, you should use MXPI (MX Package Installer) to install the Liquorix 6.5.11-3 kernel. There are reports elsewhere here in the forums that Dells seem to run better with a Liquorix kernel.
Edited to add that the Liquorix kernels are not affected by this bug.

[oops]

... I think that your best bet would be to use Boot Options in MX Tools to roll back to the 6.1.0-13 kernel. That's what I did on my Aspire V5 as soon as the kernel problem was identified....

Right, so waiting for the 6.1.0-16 kernel

[JeffA]

Same problem as others with -15 kernel. Had to go back to -13 kernel

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System:
  Kernel: 6.1.0-13-amd64 [6.1.55-1] arch: x86_64 bits: 64 compiler: gcc v: 12.2.0
    parameters: BOOT_IMAGE=/boot/vmlinuz-6.1.0-13-amd64 root=UUID=<filter> ro quiet splash
  Desktop: Xfce v: 4.18.1 tk: Gtk v: 3.24.36 info: xfce4-panel wm: xfwm v: 4.18.0 vt: 7
    dm: LightDM v: 1.26.0 Distro: MX-23.1_x64 Libretto October 15  2023 base: Debian GNU/Linux 12
    (bookworm)
Machine:
  Type: Desktop Mobo: MSI model: H110M GAMING (MS-7994) v: 1.0 serial: <superuser required>
    UEFI-[Legacy]: American Megatrends v: 5.80 date: 12/16/2016
CPU:
  Info: model: Intel Pentium G4400 bits: 64 type: MCP arch: Skylake-S level: v2 built: 2015
    process: Intel 14nm family: 6 model-id: 0x5E (94) stepping: 3 microcode: 0xF0
  Topology: cpus: 1x cores: 2 smt: <unsupported> cache: L1: 128 KiB desc: d-2x32 KiB; i-2x32 KiB
    L2: 512 KiB desc: 2x256 KiB L3: 3 MiB desc: 1x3 MiB
  Speed (MHz): avg: 800 min/max: 800/3300 scaling: driver: intel_pstate governor: powersave
    cores: 1: 800 2: 800 bogomips: 13199
  Flags: ht lm nx pae sse sse2 sse3 sse4_1 sse4_2 ssse3 vmx
  Vulnerabilities:
  Type: gather_data_sampling status: Not affected
  Type: itlb_multihit status: KVM: VMX disabled
  Type: l1tf mitigation: PTE Inversion; VMX: conditional cache flushes, SMT disabled
  Type: mds mitigation: Clear CPU buffers; SMT disabled
  Type: meltdown mitigation: PTI
  Type: mmio_stale_data mitigation: Clear CPU buffers; SMT disabled
  Type: retbleed mitigation: IBRS
  Type: spec_rstack_overflow status: Not affected
  Type: spec_store_bypass mitigation: Speculative Store Bypass disabled via prctl
  Type: spectre_v1 mitigation: usercopy/swapgs barriers and __user pointer sanitization
  Type: spectre_v2 mitigation: IBRS, IBPB: conditional, STIBP: disabled, RSB filling,
    PBRSB-eIBRS: Not affected
  Type: srbds mitigation: Microcode
  Type: tsx_async_abort status: Not affected
Graphics:
  Device-1: Intel HD Graphics 510 vendor: Micro-Star MSI driver: i915 v: kernel arch: Gen-9
    process: Intel 14n built: 2015-16 ports: active: DP-1 empty: HDMI-A-1,HDMI-A-2,HDMI-A-3
    bus-ID: 00:02.0 chip-ID: 8086:1902 class-ID: 0300
  Display: x11 server: X.Org v: 1.21.1.7 compositor: xfwm v: 4.18.0 driver: X:
    loaded: modesetting unloaded: fbdev,vesa dri: iris gpu: i915 display-ID: :0.0 screens: 1
  Screen-1: 0 s-res: 1920x1080 s-dpi: 96 s-size: 508x285mm (20.00x11.22") s-diag: 582mm (22.93")
  Monitor-1: DP-1 model: Acer HA220Q serial: <filter> built: 2017 res: 1920x1080 hz: 60 dpi: 102
    gamma: 1.2 size: 476x268mm (18.74x10.55") diag: 546mm (21.5") ratio: 16:9 modes: max: 1920x1080
    min: 720x400
  API: OpenGL v: 4.6 Mesa 22.3.6 renderer: Mesa Intel HD Graphics 510 (SKL GT1)
    direct-render: Yes
Audio:
  Device-1: Intel 100 Series/C230 Series Family HD Audio vendor: Micro-Star MSI
    driver: snd_hda_intel v: kernel bus-ID: 00:1f.3 chip-ID: 8086:a170 class-ID: 0403
  API: ALSA v: k6.1.0-13-amd64 status: kernel-api tools: alsamixer,amixer
  Server-1: PipeWire v: 0.3.65 status: active with: 1: pipewire-pulse status: active
    2: wireplumber status: active 3: pipewire-alsa type: plugin 4: pw-jack type: plugin
    tools: pactl,pw-cat,pw-cli,wpctl
Network:
  Device-1: Intel Ethernet I219-V vendor: Micro-Star MSI driver: e1000e v: kernel port: N/A
    bus-ID: 00:1f.6 chip-ID: 8086:15b8 class-ID: 0200
  IF: eth0 state: down mac: <filter>
  Device-2: Intel Wi-Fi 6 AX210/AX211/AX411 160MHz driver: iwlwifi v: kernel modules: wl pcie:
    gen: 2 speed: 5 GT/s lanes: 1 bus-ID: 01:00.0 chip-ID: 8086:2725 class-ID: 0280
  IF: wlan0 state: down mac: <filter>
  Device-3: TP-Link Archer T2U PLUS [RTL8821AU] type: USB driver: rtl8821au bus-ID: 1-10:4
    chip-ID: 2357:0120 class-ID: 0000 serial: <filter>
  IF: wlan1 state: up mac: <filter>
Drives:
  Local Storage: total: 223.57 GiB used: 40.11 GiB (17.9%)
  SMART Message: Unable to run smartctl. Root privileges required.
  ID-1: /dev/sda maj-min: 8:0 vendor: Crucial model: CT240BX200SSD1 size: 223.57 GiB block-size:
    physical: 4096 B logical: 512 B speed: 6.0 Gb/s type: SSD serial: <filter> rev: .6 scheme: GPT
Partition:
  ID-1: / raw-size: 223.57 GiB size: 219 GiB (97.96%) used: 40.11 GiB (18.3%) fs: ext4
    dev: /dev/sda2 maj-min: 8:2
Swap:
  Kernel: swappiness: 15 (default 60) cache-pressure: 100 (default)
  ID-1: swap-1 type: file size: 3 GiB used: 0 KiB (0.0%) priority: -2 file: /swap/swap
Sensors:
  System Temperatures: cpu: 26.0 C pch: 35.5 C mobo: N/A
  Fan Speeds (RPM): N/A
Repos:
  Packages: pm: dpkg pkgs: 2675 libs: 1517 tools: apt,apt-get,aptitude,nala,synaptic pm: rpm
    pkgs: 0 pm: flatpak pkgs: 0
  No active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list
  Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/brave-browser-release.list
    1: deb [arch=amd64] https://brave-browser-apt-release.s3.brave.com/ stable main
  Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian-stable-updates.list
    1: deb http://deb.debian.org/debian bookworm-updates main contrib non-free non-free-firmware
  Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian.list
    1: deb http://deb.debian.org/debian bookworm main contrib non-free non-free-firmware
    2: deb http://security.debian.org/debian-security bookworm-security main contrib non-free non-free-firmware
  Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/google-earth-pro.list
    1: deb [arch=amd64] http://dl.google.com/linux/earth/deb/ stable main
  Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/mx.list
    1: deb http://mxrepo.com/mx/repo/ bookworm main non-free
  Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/weewx.list
    1: deb [arch=all] http://weewx.com/apt/python3 buster main
Info:
  Processes: 217 Uptime: 13m wakeups: 1 Memory: 11.57 GiB used: 2.54 GiB (21.9%) Init: SysVinit
  v: 3.06 runlevel: 5 default: graphical tool: systemctl Compilers: gcc: 12.2.0 alt: 12
  Client: shell wrapper v: 5.2.15-release inxi: 3.3.26
Boot Mode: BIOS (legacy, CSM, MBR)

[Stevo]

The 6.10.64 (6.10-14) kernel was replaced by 6.10.66 in Debian Bookworm. All those other updates were pushed as part of the 12.2 to 12.3 Bookworm point release. Those point releases happen on a regular schedule ~every two months.