Proton releases new Linux app for Proton VPN

[MXRobo]

Thanks CharlieBrown, actually I did look at the differences about a week ago.

And the confusion is partially due to the fact that I don't know if OpenVPN or Wireguard allow a VPN to work within those apps and I committed one of my pet peeves by using a comparative verb (better) without explicitly using a comparative, but with the preceding context, "Our official app is the best way to use Proton VPN on your Linux PC. It natively supports advanced Proton VPN features..."

So I should have said, Do you think using the ProtonVPN within MX's OpenVPN or Wireguardis better than using the official app as suggested by Proton?

Either way, thanks for the reply. - I'll get this later!

[CharlesV]

@MXRobo I actually use six or eight different VPN solutions. As there are two types, read on:-)

For most people, VPN means internet traffic that is encrypted, private safe. What that means, is that LOCALLY your traffic cannot be snooped, since you have an encrypted traffic connection to a VPN server, which then dumps you onto the internet. This is what I call Type 2 - Internet traffic.

Type 1 - is what a REAL VPN is.. a Virtual Private Network, which connects *your machines* together into a private, encrypted tunnel network. Also this can connect you to a network, such as work etc. Or just a bunch of machines for gaming etc, and typically the only 'internet' part is that the internet is how all these get to each other.

For me, for Internet I use Private Internet Access (PIA) primarily, and then ProtonVPN since it was introduced. (I have use protonMail for along time.) There are a few others I use, but this is really it.

For Type 1 networking, I use Tailscale, Hamachi, Zerotier, OpenVPN and I have clients on them as well as a few others.

Since I primarily use pfSense as router / firewalls, I use OpenVPN a lot to connect to those etc.

The reason I like seeing the ProtonVPN client is because I tend to stick with GUI for most people, as they can understand it. Not too many of my clients and throw down a CLI and make things work ;-/ , so PIA and ProtonVPN having a nice GUI that works... is a good thing!

[davidy]

You're smart. I just rcvd my Protectli 4port pfsense firewall w/bgn wifi AP, and went ahead and bought a trendnet 8port switch to make life simpler. Can't wait to see what all it will do. Proton I use only for email now. When I did use their VPN it seemed to work fine but I heard they were giving up email data to law enforcement and stopped using the vpn.

[CharlesV]

Thanks! Ya, Protectli works VERY well, I have many in service and they have been stellar! (And thats what I have too.)

As for encrypted email, while I have no issue with it being turned over... the ONLY way to have REAL encrypted email ... is to encrypt it and then send the encrypted package via email . In my opinion, you can NOT rely on any country (5, 9 OR 14 eyes) to handle encrypted bundles and expect it to *never* be turned over ;- /

[davidy]

I get that. It's possible what they turned over was useless but still when you say private and secure and then find out it's neither it kinda leaves a bad taste. As for encrypting the content yourself? That would be great if there was a single entity on earth who actually also wanted privacy and security like I do. So far I have not met even one. I was using IVPN out of Gibraltar and then the "system" would not let me renew my subscription and I did not want to send cash through the mail. IVPN was the best VPN I've used. The only thing I like about Proton is they let you make anonymous email accts. That's it.

[LU344928]

Protonmail is very good and gives a positive feeling, wheras Neutronmail has no charge at all.