What keyboard model should I choose?

[Duliwi]

Hello

This is my keyboard:

Keyboard1.jpg

Keyboard2.jpg

It's an ACER.
DKUSB1B0CY
75100D35K802
Model: SK-9626
99 keys


Question: How can I know, what "keyboard model" I have to choose here:

k20231118-132606.png

k20231118-131904.png

I have not found the exact model there.

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When I press "Alt Gr+Y" I would expect "¥", because in the file /usr/share/X11/xkb/symbols/ch I have the line:

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key <AB01> { [	y,	Y, 	yen,		Ydiaeresis		]	};

... but I get "«" .

Has this something to do, with the wrong "keyboard model" ?
What exactly is the keyboard model? And what happens, if I have chosen the wrong keyboard model?

Would appreciate some help.
Thank you.


Edit:
Replaced the photograph of the back of the keyboard through text.

[Duliwi]

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[j2mcgreg]

Where do you live?

[Eadwine Rose]

Europe, looks like.. with the € key

[j2mcgreg]

Europe, looks like.. with the € key

It looked like that to me at first, but then he says his problem is that he can't produce the Japanese Yen symbol. Hence my question.

[Duliwi]

Where do you live?

Europe German-Switzerland ( == Confoederatio Helvetica (CH) )

I assume that "ch" in /usr/share/X11/xkb/symbols/ch means Switzerland.

.ch is the country code top-level domain (ccTLD) for Switzerland in the Domain Name System of the Internet. Made available in 1987,[2] only two years after .com, it is administered by SWITCH Information Technology Services.[3]

[fehlix]

Maybe post details in the form of this command text output:

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setxkbmap -query

This would avoid picture-guessing help attempts.
Also in doubt stay with "Generic 105-key PC" for the keyboard model.
The keyboard layout looks to me like shown within this picture for ch_de:

kbd_ch_de-m.jpg

Which leads to the conclusion to type 3rd level chars like the Yen symbol ¥:
with AltGr+Shift+Z -> ¥
That's under the assumption that AltGr is not remapped and provides "Level3 Symbols"

Note: The full layout was captured with this command running in bash on terminal:

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gkbd-keyboard-display -l ch$'\t'de

provided by Gnome's keyboard lib/viewer packages: gkbd-capplet

kbd_ch_de.jpg

HTH

[thomasl]

I can't check whether the following makes sense as I have no MX19 installed anymore. But if the /usr/share/X11/xkb/symbols/ch file in MX23 is similar to the MX19 version then you have a mismatch between your actual setting (seems to be "German (Switzerland)") and the setting you're referring to with

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key <AB01> { [	y,	Y, 	yen,		Ydiaeresis		]	};

which seems to be further down in the file /usr/share/X11/xkb/symbols/ch, in subsection "German (Switzerland, Macintosh)".

Select the latter subsection in the keyboard selection box and perhaps you'll get what you want.

Screenshot_2023-11-18_14-18-27.png

EDIT: It's also possible to edit this (or any keyboard) file to your liking. I've significantly modified the UK definitions./EDIT

[j2mcgreg]

The keyboard in the images looks like the one that Acer supplies when you purchase one of their desktops. It's an attempt by Acer to produce a generic multilingual keyboard but it really doesn't succeed. My advice to you is to go to your local computer parts store and pick their staff's brains while you try out the various keyboard models. Once you find a model you like, then buy it on Amazon (but only if it is substantially cheaper that the store's price),

[fehlix]

I can't check whether the following makes sense as I have no MX19 installed anymore. But if the /usr/share/X11/xkb/symbols/ch file in MX23 is similar to the MX19 version then you have a mismatch between your actual setting (seems to be "German (Switzerland)") and the setting you're referring to with

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key <AB01> { [	y,	Y, 	yen,		Ydiaeresis		]	};

which seems to be further down in the file /usr/share/X11/xkb/symbols/ch, in subsection "German (Switzerland, Macintosh)".

Select the latter subsection in the keyboard selection box and perhaps you'll get what you want.

Screenshot_2023-11-18_14-18-27.png

EDIT: It's also possible to edit this (or any keyboard) file to your liking. I've significantly modified the UK definitions./EDIT

The keyboard for a "German (Switzerland, Macintosh)" layout
would look like this: shown with this command: gkbd-keyboard-display -l ch$'\t'de_mac )

ch_mac_de-m.jpg

and seems not to fit to the picture of the keyboard shown in #1.