Why I keep coming back to MX and Antix

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NightCoder
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Re: Why I keep coming back to MX and Antix

#31 Post by NightCoder »

MXRobo wrote: Mon Nov 06, 2023 10:00 am The fastest installing Linux distro is (I forgot the name) the one that automatically installs itself when the USB (or maybe media) is inserted into the computer – it installs like a "virus or whatever" and wipes the existing OS.
Oh yes, and it shouldn't change the partitions on your system. Maybe one day someone will try to do something like that. :wink:

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Re: Why I keep coming back to MX and Antix

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linexer2016 wrote: Wed Nov 08, 2023 3:19 am
Danathar wrote: Mon Nov 06, 2023 5:12 am
linexer2016 wrote: Mon Nov 06, 2023 1:58 am Just looking at this thread moves me to say that I (a long time user of MX) have to say that out-of-the-box support for some Realtek wifi dongles is definitely a negative for me at least. I tried to set up a dual boot with W11 and MX on several occasions and inevitably my realtek dongle's device isn't easily available. That's not to say a similar occurrence isn't with other distros (cf Mint) but it seems to me that the download and compile of the correct driver from say github is much easier and more intuitive under Ubuntu based distros. I expect this post may engender some comment from other long time users but if the dongle's firmware (in my case rtl8812au) was available OOTB it surely would be easier than trying to get it working otherwise. It's problematic having to use another platform to download the driver and then compile it when if it came within the distro packaging it would be superior.
I’m VERY picky when it comes to usb wifi adapters for specifically that reason. Choosing one that the manufacturer specifically supports Linux and/or has open sourced the firmware and driver is an import requirement. Otherwise I avoid it.
Well Danathar, alerted by this thread I decided to research some "recommended" Linux (esp. Debian based) wifi dongles. One that came up in my search was the Brostrend but I was unable to ascertain if it had the "recommended" Mediatec or Atheros chipsets and not the Realtek. Now a reply from their support indicates "...The chipset is Realtek 8832BU...." So again even if this particular device - see https://www.amazon.com/BrosTrend-USB-Wi ... B0BTHQNK5S is promoting the suitability for Linux (and of course, Windows) it remains that it uses the ubiquitous? Realtek chipset. So my point is, it's easier said than done to acquire one of the "recommended" devices that don't in fact use Realtek drivers which some here have said is a negative overall. If indeed Realtek is ubiquitous then it follows that distro packagers might do well to include more OOTB support for such chipsets doesn't it?
Not the fastest or cheaptest but guaranteed to work. Plus you get the feel good warm feeling of knowing you are using hardware that respects your freedom.

https://tehnoetic.com/adapters/tehnoeti ... e-tet-n150

You can get these on ebay, make an offer for a little less. I got mine for $35.

Edit: Almost forgot! This one is faster and also works on every linux distro I've tried.

http://www.pandawireless.com/pandaN600.htm
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Re: Why I keep coming back to MX and Antix

#33 Post by MXRobo »

NightCoder wrote: Wed Nov 08, 2023 7:51 am
MXRobo wrote: Mon Nov 06, 2023 10:00 am The fastest installing Linux distro is (I forgot the name) the one that automatically installs itself when the USB (or maybe media) is inserted into the computer – it installs like a "virus or whatever" and wipes the existing OS.
Oh yes, and it shouldn't change the partitions on your system. Maybe one day someone will try to do something like that. :wink:
Just for clarification, there exist or existed a linux distro that does that, I just don't remember the name, nor could I find it with a quick search.
Insert the USB, it automatically installs and wipes the existing OS.

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#34 Post by FraterLinux »

Not Knoppix? Its LiveCD system was very famous when it was necessary to install and configure hardware on the nail... :D

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Re: Why I keep coming back to MX and Antix

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FraterLinux wrote: Wed Nov 08, 2023 10:47 am Not Knoppix? Its LiveCD system was very famous when it was necessary to install and configure hardware on the nail... :D
No, this is/was some esoteric linux distro, even more rare than Suicide Linux, the antithesis of it.
It's like a hacking prank, insert USB, wipe and install.

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Re: Why I keep coming back to MX and Antix

#36 Post by NightCoder »

MXRobo wrote: Wed Nov 08, 2023 10:42 am Just for clarification, there exist or existed a linux distro that does that, I just don't remember the name, nor could I find it with a quick search.
Insert the USB, it automatically installs and wipes the existing OS.
I have to admit that I didn't know this, as I've never come into contact with anything like that. But it's still interesting, maybe the name can be found out later.

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#37 Post by asqwerth »

I recall Distrowatch's Jesse reporting on a distro with that behaviour - he ran the iso and it immediately started installing.
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Re: Why I keep coming back to MX and Antix

#38 Post by l0dr3 »

NightCoder wrote: Wed Nov 08, 2023 11:58 am
MXRobo wrote: Wed Nov 08, 2023 10:42 am Just for clarification, there exist or existed a linux distro that does that, I just don't remember the name, nor could I find it with a quick search.
Insert the USB, it automatically installs and wipes the existing OS.
I have to admit that I didn't know this, as I've never come into contact with anything like that. But it's still interesting, maybe the name can be found out later.
I've done and build such setups for mass-deployment by cd-roms and/or usb-sticks some years ago by using FAI.

https://fai-project.org/fai-guide/

:cool:

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Re: Why I keep coming back to MX and Antix

#39 Post by MXRobo »

It's been some time ago - and I knew even less about linux then, than I do now – but it (auto-installing) probably wasn't just insert and install, you probably had to click and access the USB.

And to segue and keep on topic, I likely ran across it when I was searching for distros while distro-hopping. When I tried MX-Linux for the first time, I had a pet peeve against distros that named applications after their distro, and it made it difficult to find application alphabetically and confusing when new to linux and using different distros, plus it was simply unnecessary. I really liked MX, I recall showing it to a complete novice, but I noticed a lot of MX applications, but I didn't know enough about linux, MX, or spend enough time with it to realize that most (maybe all?) of the MX apps were MX tools that I now love. I wanted to leave Manjaro for a more stable OS, tried MX again because I knew I liked it (responsive, conky, nice MX-19 Xfce Wallpaper [fluff?] etc.) except for all of the MX apps, quit dual-booting, and end of story so far. I'd still consider other distros, but....

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Re: Why I keep coming back to MX and Antix

#40 Post by NightCoder »

MXRobo wrote: Wed Nov 08, 2023 1:10 pm I'd still consider other distros, but ...
... you are still not convinced that they would be any better, isn't it?! ;)

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