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#51 Post by AK-47 »

Jakob77 wrote: Wed May 17, 2023 2:42 am Thank you for asking. Yes that is mainly what it is:

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Exit #1: 0 QProcess::NormalExit QProcess::UnknownError

Exit #157: 0 QProcess::NormalExit QProcess::UnknownError
Maybe it can occur if the USB is hardly big enough but the target computers still don't seem to mind.
This looks good to me. If it all installed successfully and everything in the live log is green (with a sprinkling of yellow entries) then all is well. The log file is mostly for developers, so it is very verbose and noisy to capture all information that could be relevant to diagnose a problem.

As for backups, no matter how dumb or smart the backup method is, it is vital to test it. If practical, add a file that contains checksums of the backed up data, you can verify regularly that the checksums still match.

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#52 Post by Eadwine Rose »

CharlesV wrote: Thu May 18, 2023 10:04 am And this is *exactly* why you should ***test*** your backups routinely!

A backup is ONLY as good as the ability to restore it! I learned long ago that if you want to be sure, you must test backups, and so every three months I test my backups. Timeshift, Snapshot and BackInTime - all are tested!
Yep. First thing I do after making a snapshot and using the live usb maker is boot from it. See if that works. If it doesn't, I can make 50 of those that will never work until I find out what error -I- made.
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#53 Post by CharlesV »

Perfect! In fact, the instructions on making a snapshot / live usb should not end with "writing it" .. they should end with testing it :-) ( They already might actually, but I do not recall seeing that :-) )
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CharlesV wrote: Thu May 18, 2023 11:12 am Perfect! In fact, the instructions on making a snapshot / live usb should not end with "writing it" .. they should end with testing it :-) ( They already might actually, but I do not recall seeing that :-) )
Well, people would get an ISO and they didn't know what to do with it. That's why we thought it makes sense to point them to the right direction, which tool to use the write the ISO to the USB drive.

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Adrian wrote: Thu May 18, 2023 11:14 am
CharlesV wrote: Thu May 18, 2023 11:12 am Perfect! In fact, the instructions on making a snapshot / live usb should not end with "writing it" .. they should end with testing it :-) ( They already might actually, but I do not recall seeing that :-) )
Well, people would get an ISO and they didn't know what to do with it. That's why we thought it makes sense to point them to the right direction, which tool to use the write the ISO to the USB drive.
Perfect sense, and I am certainly not complaining :-) ... I love the way you all have setup it all up! OUTSTANDING Job!!
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#56 Post by Aronticuz »

I agree with the sentiments hinted above.

Q: Who needs most help?
A: the one's who think they do not need it

I'd guess that most experienced computer user are up to the challenge and in a sense that is both the beauty and the curse of Linux?

It isn't difficult but it isn't hard? To emerging nascent or developing skills computer users Linux seems to be a great environment - and that is not intended to offend commercial alternatives out there.
To an extent they all follow similar patterns with differing limitations= Great!

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#57 Post by Jakob77 »

I would like to know more about how Snapshot is to maintain.
If there are events that makes it harder than others.
If there is a time of the year the users can expect more or less stability.
When for instance file permissions on the desktop are changed and the small problem seems to be solved but later it falls back again is it copy failure can it be because a new kernel was installed in the meantime or what can be going on.? :alien:

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#58 Post by Eadwine Rose »

Well.. do not make a snapshot while there is a full moon. Not scientifically proven, though.

You asked for time of year ;)
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Jakob77 wrote: Thu May 18, 2023 3:06 pm I would like to know more about how Snapshot is to maintain.
If there are events that makes it harder than others.
If there is a time of the year the users can expect more or less stability.
When for instance file permissions on the desktop are changed and the small problem seems to be solved but later it falls back again is it copy failure can it be because a new kernel was installed in the meantime or what can be going on.? :alien:
I SO like Eadwine's answer :-) !!

@Jakob77 , this is opensource... the only guarantee you really have is that you *should* be able to download it. (And its free, so seriously no guarantee or any other "thing" that the devs or anyone else has to do - They do it out of love and devotion to their product and their people!!) And these are VERY good Dev's who care about both !!

YOU do have some options though. Learning about the code, about the releases, about the release notes :-) .. ALL very doable, and ALL on you - you want to know... I would suggest that you have a look here https://github.com/MX-Linux/mx-snapshot and start answering your questions.

If you have a specific issue with snapshot, then that is what the forum is all about. You should really ask the question in the help section.

However, attempting to second guess where it will break, or when it will ... I dont really think so.
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#60 Post by CharlesV »

Another good place might be to find out about getting into the testing of snapshot - you certainly could learn a bunch about testing it!!
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