Logo, icon and picture contest preparations (unofficial)

[Jakob77]

JmaCWQ

I am thinking about just staying with the default theme and modify it only if very needed.
My theory is that strategy in the long run will provide more stability and less surprises when upgrading.
Do you have an opinion about that theory.?

Re gpl-3
https://www.gnu.org/licenses/quick-guide-gplv3.html

The Foundations of the GPL
Nobody should be restricted by the software they use. There are four freedoms that every user should have:

the freedom to use the software for any purpose,
the freedom to change the software to suit your needs,
the freedom to share the software with your friends and neighbors, and
the freedom to share the changes you make.

In my opinion if a user is contributing artwork and not licensing it under gpl-3, it is common courtesy to ask their permission to make changes and distribute it any way. If one does not than it is between you and you conscience.

Thank you very much.

When it comes to law stuff I am pretty blank but it really looks like the freedom I think the MX-users deserve.

It is not just about conscience. There is always still a risk of being flamed.

I just can't find the pool with all the stuff yet.

There is also another thing. If we imagine we get permission from all artists to put all the MX art into that pool, then it will afterwards be available to the whole world on those conditions. And maybe that is taking it a little too far in first round when the need is just total freedom to use the material for making MX icons, MX boot up pictures and MX background pictures.
It could likely also be a lot easier to get permission for just the last and an ethics council in MX to decide what more to do in the future.
It is a bit against the spirit I am trying to evoke, but if we have a pool with more freedom than others we will just give it all away so we have nothing to negotiate with in case we for instance want to share icons and pictures with another distro.
It can fast become complicated but Is it making sense somehow.?

[Jakob77]

All depends upon your screen setting really. Your display size, your icon size etc etc.. Look at some of the icon packages and you will see that some are sized for various sizes.

Is that not one more good reason to give the users some templates.?
If we imagine a bunch of beginners are going to have fun in an art contest it will be good if the specifications they have to meet are very simple.

[CharlesV]

All depends upon your screen setting really. Your display size, your icon size etc etc.. Look at some of the icon packages and you will see that some are sized for various sizes.

Is that not one more good reason to give the users some templates.?
If we imagine a bunch of beginners are going to have fun in an art contest it will be good if the specifications they have to meet are very simple.

I would advocate that it is better to have REAL specifications for themes and icons from more base maintainer. Everything in icons or themes in mx that I have seen is "standard" and as such looking around one can easily find specifications for them.

If you want to learn, then a great place to start is
Freedesktop.org icon-theme-spec
https://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Specif ... heme-spec/

or

GNOME UI Icon spec / style
https://developer.gnome.org/hig/guideli ... icons.html

or some actual UI design
https://uxcel.com/blog/understanding-th ... -ui-design
https://careerfoundry.com/en/blog/ui-de ... n-process/

and a jillion other places on the internet that have good design discussions.


Design templates for icons and images, imo, are outside the scope of what a distro should have to define, with exception of what they require for legal and what they might hint at they are looking for or interested in looking at / including. And the personal aspect of what size a panel / icon set should for *your* taste is way out of scope. (again - imo !)

[JmaCWQ]

JmaCWQ

I am thinking about just staying with the default theme and modify it only if very needed.
My theory is that strategy in the long run will provide more stability and less surprises when upgrading.
Do you have an opinion about that theory.?

That's pretty much what I do except I don't use the default theme.
When a default theme is upgraded you could lose any mods you've made, to sort of get around that use a copy with it's folder renamed to something else, and renamed in the index.theme file.
I usually add a '-mymod' to the end of the names and the appearance settings show them as such.

But then if the default theme is upgraded, the renamed and modded copy doesn't get touched so once again some work could be required to get the copy of the theme you've modded up to scratch again

[Jakob77]

JmaCWQ

Thank you for your tips.

[Jakob77]

All depends upon your screen setting really. Your display size, your icon size etc etc.. Look at some of the icon packages and you will see that some are sized for various sizes.

Is that not one more good reason to give the users some templates.?
If we imagine a bunch of beginners are going to have fun in an art contest it will be good if the specifications they have to meet are very simple.

I would advocate that it is better to have REAL specifications for themes and icons from more base maintainer. Everything in icons or themes in mx that I have seen is "standard" and as such looking around one can easily find specifications for them.

If you want to learn, then a great place to start is
Freedesktop.org icon-theme-spec
https://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Specif ... heme-spec/

or

GNOME UI Icon spec / style
https://developer.gnome.org/hig/guideli ... icons.html

or some actual UI design
https://uxcel.com/blog/understanding-th ... -ui-design
https://careerfoundry.com/en/blog/ui-de ... n-process/

and a jillion other places on the internet that have good design discussions.


Design templates for icons and images, imo, are outside the scope of what a distro should have to define, with exception of what they require for legal and what they might hint at they are looking for or interested in looking at / including. And the personal aspect of what size a panel / icon set should for *your* taste is way out of scope. (again - imo !)

I fainted but thank you.
That makes it pretty clear to me how impossible it will be to cover all icons in a single contest.

I don't have the overview to say in what corner it is best to start but I still believe I can see something can be made very simple if we put out minds to it.




For instance:




The icon for the Whisker menu can be made in a lot of different ways.

We have decided to make an icon contest about the specifications "png 64x64"


Here is a template for Gimp:

Whisker-menu-icon-template-64-64.png

Have fun making a good icon.
The contest will run until date xx


Icon specifications and the template are made on basis of Frejas icon:
https://forum.mxlinux.org/viewtopic.php ... 33#p718133

[JmaCWQ]

JmaCWQ

Thank you for your tips.

No probs

[Jakob77]

Yes, it's Friday night, let's drink to free art groups.


I had suddenly luck and found a red lock.

panelicons-lockmv2.png

There is just one problem. I want the red icon to lock.
Am I wrong.?
I can see that unlock can be dangerous and therefore red for unlock can make sense.
But in traffic red means "stop".
And on factory machines "emergency stop" is normally a red button.








I have been looking a little at mouse cursors but I am afraid they are also too complicated for an average user contest.

In general i think the mouse cursor icons are too small.

So I would like an elephant mouse cursor that can be scaled up to elephant size.

elephant with raised trunk
https://www.google.com/search?q=elephan ... 43&dpr=1.5

Any ideas about how to find it or make it happen some day.?


By the way if the thumb is bend a little more forward a thumb up can also be art object for a mouse cursor.


Never underestimate a mouse cursor.
I installed a banana that made me smile 1400 times.!

[Eadwine Rose]

Change the yellow to red in gimp, or copy the lock bit from yellow to the red. Bam, locked red icon.

[Jakob77]

Change the yellow to red in gimp, or copy the lock bit from yellow to the red. Bam, locked red icon.

If it puts me in trouble, so I have to say sorry 3 times, I will ask you to say at least two of them.

Here we go:

panelicons-lockmv3.png

If someone now thinks my art modification is ugly and changes it, then we have started exactly a kind of contest I am looking for.

Please do it.!

And if it happens and you make something ugly out of it, I can't do anything about It because you are just following the main rule of the contest.
Won't it be fun to see how angry you can make me by beating me with my own art.?

Do you know the game with one peace of paper and one pen that circulates between people in a group and each member is supposed to add a little.?