live usb doesn't go beyond "start init" (waiting for /dev to be fully populated) [Solved]

[bambuko]

...vcard=menu
and select nvidia would it boot into X?

Don't know, but will try and report back

[bambuko]

OK, this is what happened:

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live-vcard: Video card selection
Removing file /var/lib/live-estate/vcard-mode 
Found 2 Video devices 
Found 1 Intel Video device
Detected possible Hybrid Graphies 
Video Card Menu forced
Please select a video card to use
1) Intel Xeon E3-1288 v3/4th Gen Core Processor Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 86) 
2) NVIDIA TU116 [GeForce GTX 1658 SUPER] (rev al) 
0) Quit/disable
Press <Enter> to quit
>2
Newly selected video card 
NVIDIA TU116 (GeForce GTX 1658 SUPER] (rev al) 
Setting Xorg bus-id to 0000:01:00.0 
disabling modeset for 1915 in file /lib/modprobe.d/video-card-disable.conf 
Press <Enter> to continue

and it installed perfectly OK

here the usual info:

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System:    Kernel: 6.0.0-6mx-amd64 [6.0.12-1~mx21+1] x86_64 bits: 64 compiler: gcc v: 10.2.1 
           parameters: BOOT_IMAGE=/antiX/vmlinuz quiet splasht nosplash vcard=menu 
           Desktop: KDE Plasma 5.20.5 wm: kwin_x11 vt: 7 dm: SDDM 
           Distro: MX-21.3_KDE_x64 Wildflower January 15  2023 
           base: Debian GNU/Linux 11 (bullseye) 
Machine:   Type: Desktop Mobo: Gigabyte model: Z97M-D3H v: x.x serial: <filter> 
           UEFI: American Megatrends v: F8 date: 09/18/2015 
CPU:       Info: Quad Core model: Intel Core i5-4690K bits: 64 type: MCP arch: Haswell family: 6 
           model-id: 3C (60) stepping: 3 microcode: 1C cache: L2: 6 MiB 
           flags: avx avx2 lm nx pae sse sse2 sse3 sse4_1 sse4_2 ssse3 vmx bogomips: 27999 
           Speed: 1200 MHz min/max: 800/3900 MHz Core speeds (MHz): 1: 900 2: 900 3: 995 4: 900 
           Vulnerabilities: Type: itlb_multihit status: KVM: VMX disabled 
           Type: l1tf mitigation: PTE Inversion; VMX: conditional cache flushes, SMT disabled 
           Type: mds status: Vulnerable: Clear CPU buffers attempted, no microcode; SMT disabled 
           Type: meltdown mitigation: PTI 
           Type: mmio_stale_data status: Unknown: No mitigations 
           Type: retbleed status: Not affected 
           Type: spec_store_bypass status: Vulnerable 
           Type: spectre_v1 mitigation: usercopy/swapgs barriers and __user pointer sanitization 
           Type: spectre_v2 
           mitigation: Retpolines, STIBP: disabled, RSB filling, PBRSB-eIBRS: Not affected 
           Type: srbds status: Vulnerable: No microcode 
           Type: tsx_async_abort status: Not affected 
Graphics:  Device-1: Intel Xeon E3-1200 v3/4th Gen Core Processor Integrated Graphics 
           vendor: Gigabyte driver: N/A alternate: i915 bus-ID: 00:02.0 chip-ID: 8086:0412 
           class-ID: 0300 
           Device-2: NVIDIA TU116 [GeForce GTX 1650 SUPER] driver: nouveau v: kernel 
           bus-ID: 01:00.0 chip-ID: 10de:2187 class-ID: 0300 
           Display: x11 server: X.Org 1.20.14 compositor: kwin_x11 driver: loaded: modesetting 
           unloaded: fbdev,vesa display-ID: :0 screens: 1 
           Screen-1: 0 s-res: 2560x1440 s-dpi: 96 s-size: 677x381mm (26.7x15.0") 
           s-diag: 777mm (30.6") 
           Monitor-1: DVI-D-1 res: 2560x1440 hz: 60 dpi: 109 size: 597x336mm (23.5x13.2") 
           diag: 685mm (27") 
           OpenGL: renderer: NV168 v: 4.3 Mesa 22.0.5 direct render: Yes 
Audio:     Device-1: Intel Xeon E3-1200 v3/4th Gen Core Processor HD Audio driver: snd_hda_intel 
           v: kernel bus-ID: 00:03.0 chip-ID: 8086:0c0c class-ID: 0403 
           Device-2: Intel 9 Series Family HD Audio vendor: Gigabyte driver: snd_hda_intel 
           v: kernel bus-ID: 00:1b.0 chip-ID: 8086:8ca0 class-ID: 0403 
           Device-3: NVIDIA TU116 High Definition Audio driver: snd_hda_intel v: kernel 
           bus-ID: 01:00.1 chip-ID: 10de:1aeb class-ID: 0403 
           Device-4: JMTek LLC. USB PnP Audio Device type: USB 
           driver: hid-generic,snd-usb-audio,usbhid bus-ID: 1-9:7 chip-ID: 0c76:161f 
           class-ID: 0300 
           Sound Server-1: ALSA v: k6.0.0-6mx-amd64 running: yes 
           Sound Server-2: PulseAudio v: 14.2 running: yes 
Network:   Device-1: Realtek RTL8111/8168/8411 PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet vendor: Gigabyte 
           driver: r8169 v: kernel port: d000 bus-ID: 03:00.0 chip-ID: 10ec:8168 class-ID: 0200 
           IF: eth0 state: up speed: 1000 Mbps duplex: full mac: <filter> 
Drives:    Local Storage: total: 3.76 GiB used: 2.34 GiB (62.3%) 
           ID-1: /dev/sda maj-min: 8:0 type: USB vendor: Kingston model: DataTraveler 2.0 
           size: 3.76 GiB block-size: physical: 512 B logical: 512 B type: N/A serial: <filter> 
           rev: 1.00 scheme: MBR 
           SMART Message: Unknown USB bridge. Flash drive/Unsupported enclosure? 
Swap:      Alert: No swap data was found. 
Sensors:   System Temperatures: cpu: 29.8 C mobo: 27.8 C gpu: nouveau temp: 29.0 C 
           Fan Speeds (RPM): N/A 
Repos:     Packages: note: see --pkg apt: 2296 lib: 1284 flatpak: 0 
           No active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list 
           Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian-stable-updates.list 
           1: deb http://deb.debian.org/debian bullseye-updates main contrib non-free
           Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian.list 
           1: deb http://deb.debian.org/debian bullseye main contrib non-free
           2: deb http://security.debian.org/debian-security bullseye-security main contrib non-free
           Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/mx.list 
           1: deb http://mxrepo.com/mx/repo/ bullseye main non-free
           2: deb http://mxrepo.com/mx/repo/ bullseye ahs
Info:      Processes: 210 Uptime: 2m wakeups: 1 Memory: 15.47 GiB used: 1.05 GiB (6.8%) 
           Init: SysVinit v: 2.96 runlevel: 5 default: 5 tool: systemctl Compilers: gcc: N/A 
           alt: 10 Client: shell wrapper v: 5.1.4-release inxi: 3.3.06 
Boot Mode: UEFI
Video Tweaks:
Detected possible Hybrid Graphics

[fehlix]

OK, this is what happened:

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live-vcard: Video card selection
Removing file /var/lib/live-estate/vcard-mode 
Found 2 Video devices 
Found 1 Intel Video device
Detected possible Hybrid Graphies 
Video Card Menu forced
Please select a video card to use
1) Intel Xeon E3-1288 v3/4th Gen Core Processor Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 86) 
2) NVIDIA TU116 [GeForce GTX 1658 SUPER] (rev al) 
0) Quit/disable
Press <Enter> to quit
>2
Newly selected video card 
NVIDIA TU116 (GeForce GTX 1658 SUPER] (rev al) 
Setting Xorg bus-id to 0000:01:00.0 
disabling modeset for 1915 in file /lib/modprobe.d/video-card-disable.conf 
Press <Enter> to continue

and it installed perfectly OK

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Video Tweaks:
Detected possible Hybrid Graphics

OK, thanks. In case your system allows to connect a video-monitor to the integrated graphics controller
I guess the system would use this device and boot into X.
The video-card detection for Hybrid Graphics was added to the LiveSystem to avoid those laptops with hybrid-graphics would show a black screen. In your case the detection was not optimal, b/c you simply did not connect a video-device to the integrated card but the vcard-detection assumed a hybrid-card. Probably some tweaking within the vcard-detection would help in order not see such a setup as "Hybrid Graphics".
So for now, lessons learned, for anybody with an integrated graphics controller but not a Hybrid Graphics and an addtional graphics card may choose vcard boot option to select the active device.
Turning vcard off by default within the ISO-LiveSystem is not the way forward, as this would create lot of issues with hybrid-card laptops.

[bambuko]

@fehlix
I would have thought that vcard=menu would be optimal and safe option covering all the angles, plus very much more informative than black screen with blinking cursor...
Anyway, my personal problem is solved, so the only question for you guys is whether you want/need to do anything about it? for future and other users?