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Re: deleting Topics means deleting know-how

#11 Post by Duliwi »

manyroads wrote: Sun Dec 11, 2022 1:30 pm For those who are unaware, https://archive.org (the Wayback machine aka the Internet Archive) takes periodic snapshots of websites. Their archives (snapshots) remain essentially forever. Here is the page highlighting the snapshots available for this forum: https://web.archive.org/web/20220000000 ... linux.org/
Thank you for the link.
The problem is, that the search function does not work in "archive.org". So I can not search for all posts from "user= Duliwi". Even if I could do such a search, I would not know which posts were deleted or not.

But if richb would be so kind and say, which forum was affected, then it may be possible to go through all topics of this particular forum on archive.org.
For example if "Software / Configuration" was affected, I could go through all topics of this forum and look for topics, I have started.
richb wrote: Sun Dec 11, 2022 12:43 pm
Duliwi wrote: Sun Dec 11, 2022 11:31 am
richb wrote: Sun Dec 11, 2022 11:07 am If later ones were purged it was an error that was quickly corrected and affected one Forum.
Thank you for your statement richb.
Which forum was affected and how was this corrected? Or rather, what do you mean by corrected?
By corrected I mean, when I recognized the error the time frame was reverted to 5 years rather than 2 that had been entered. That does not bring back the posts that had been deleted.
I see. Thank you for clarification @richb .
Can you please tell me yet which forum(s) exactly was affected? Thank you.

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Re: deleting Topics means deleting know-how

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It was quite some time ago.Sorry I do not recall .
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Re: deleting Topics means deleting know-how

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manyroads wrote: Sun Dec 11, 2022 1:30 pm For those who are unaware, https://archive.org (the Wayback machine aka the Internet Archive) takes periodic snapshots of websites. Their archives (snapshots) remain essentially forever. Here is the page highlighting the snapshots available for this forum: https://web.archive.org/web/20220000000 ... linux.org/

Maybe, that web.archive.org has a lot sites archived. But unfortunately not the ones I need.

Example 1:
https://web.archive.org/web/20220000000 ... p?p=629361

Example 2:
https://web.archive.org/web/20220000000 ... hp?t=57458

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Re: deleting Topics means deleting know-how

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Duliwi wrote: Mon Dec 12, 2022 4:03 am
manyroads wrote: Sun Dec 11, 2022 1:30 pm For those who are unaware, https://archive.org (the Wayback machine aka the Internet Archive) takes periodic snapshots of websites. Their archives (snapshots) remain essentially forever. Here is the page highlighting the snapshots available for this forum: https://web.archive.org/web/20220000000 ... linux.org/

Maybe, that web.archive.org has a lot sites archived. But unfortunately not the ones I need.

Example 1:
https://web.archive.org/web/20220000000 ... p?p=629361

Example 2:
https://web.archive.org/web/20220000000 ... hp?t=57458
Sadly a webpage does not a website make....
the Wayback Machine definitely has https://forum.mxlinux.org/ Here's their link: https://web.archive.org/web/20220000000 ... linux.org/ Now you will need to search around the time of the post you want to see if their download captured your desired page. I never said they made it easy for you but there are tools that allow you to reconstruct entire sites from the Wayback machine, should you wish to gather all the pages they have ever gathered (collected). You can download those reconstructed sites to your PC and search offline.

Here are some links on the topic (there are many more should you wish):
==> https://www.dopinger.com/blog/restore-a ... ck-machine
==> https://www.inmotionhosting.com/support ... t-archive/

Here are two examples of sites I reconstructed from the Wayback machine. Each took several days work:
==> https://treemagic.org/rademacher/www.ve ... hichte.de/
==> https://www.many-roads.com/2021/06/29/1 ... ce-census/
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Re: deleting Topics means deleting know-how

#15 Post by Duliwi »

Thank you manyroads. I will have a closer look at it.


richb wrote: Sun Dec 11, 2022 12:43 pm By corrected I mean, when I recognized the error the time frame was reverted to 5 years rather than 2 that had been entered. That does not bring back the posts that had been deleted.
I have analysed the original forums, where I had a few topics of high value and with high quality answers:
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When you say, that you have set the automatically deleting process by mistake to 2 years instead of 5 years, then this would fit to the "hardware /configuration" forum, because the oldest topic there was from Nov. 2020.
But I am quite sure, that I had only less topics in this forum. Nevertheless I miss a lot of topics.

Strange too that the forum "MX Help" has only 19 pages, but the oldest topic is from jan 2018. I would suppose, that people do much more often post in "MX forum" than in "hardware /configuration" forum. Nevertheless has this forum less pages although the oldest topic is older.

I am quite sure, that one of my Topics with high value were in the forum "Software /Configuration". But I do no more find them, although this forum has 200 pages and the oldest topic is from Nov. 2017.

I guess something has gone terribly wrong with this forum.
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#16 Post by DeepDayze »

To me deleting the low-quality topics makes sense while keeping the most consequential discussions. This way this forum can be a great resource for users, and even the older discussions have value. Also there should be no need to bump old threads unless they are still relevant to any issues compliments, questions or concerns raised.
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Re: deleting Topics means deleting know-how

#17 Post by Duliwi »

There is definitely something wrong with the "MX Help" subforum.

E.g. only a total of 27 topics from the year 2020 exists:
https://forum.mxlinux.org/viewforum.php?f=104&start=320
https://forum.mxlinux.org/viewforum.php?f=104&start=340
-> These are about 2 Topics per month.


Only a total of 21 topics from the year 2021 exists:
https://forum.mxlinux.org/viewforum.php?f=104&start=300
https://forum.mxlinux.org/viewforum.php?f=104&start=320
-> These are less than 2 Topics per month.

ALL my topics in "MX Help" before sept. 2022 are deleted.


Edit:
I only speak about the subforum "MX Linux"
and not about the subforums "Bugs and Non-Package Requests", "Installation", "Security", "Tips & Tricks by users".
And only about Topics not posts.

I mean this pages:
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Re: deleting Topics means deleting know-how

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Duliwi wrote: Mon Dec 12, 2022 2:49 pm There is definitely something wrong with the "MX Help" subforum.

E.g. only a total of 27 topics from the year 2020 exists:
https://forum.mxlinux.org/viewforum.php?f=104&start=320
https://forum.mxlinux.org/viewforum.php?f=104&start=340
-> These are about 2 Topics per month.


Only a total of 21 topics from the year 2021 exists:
https://forum.mxlinux.org/viewforum.php?f=104&start=300
https://forum.mxlinux.org/viewforum.php?f=104&start=320
-> These are less than 2 Topics per month.

ALL my topics in "MX Help" before sept. 2022 are deleted.
If they are gone they are gone and not retrievable. Continuing to post about it will not get them back. Any automatic deletion has now been disabled.Please put this to rest.
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Re: deleting Topics means deleting know-how

#19 Post by Utopia »

ALL my topics in "MX Help" before sept. 2022 are deleted.
Found at least six of your posts in MX Help before sept. 2022.
27 and 21 topics could be correct, doesn't look like anything is missing.
Didn't do a complete statistical analysis, but it looks fine at first glance.
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Re: deleting Topics means deleting know-how

#20 Post by fehlix »

Duliwi wrote: Mon Dec 12, 2022 2:49 pm ALL my topics in "MX Help" before sept. 2022 are deleted.
Are you sure? This query shows 35 topics started by you in the Help and sub-forums:
Search found 35 matches
with the first one dated 08 Jul 2019.

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