MX21 (KDE particularly) and NORDPASS

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MX21 (KDE particularly) and NORDPASS

#1 Post by tanstaafl72555 »

I had a very difficult time getting these to play nicely. I was able to figure out how to "make it work" after a few days and thought maybe this would be of help. This is how I got it to install correctlly

As you probably know. Nordvpn require systemd. Since you are probably using the vpn if you are using the pw manager by NORD, I assumed you are booting into systemd. So I went ahead and used snap, rather than the flatpak method of install. Nord "supports" snap install, even though they were baffled by this. I also found the same errors when I did a flatpak install, so this MAY work to help with that route of installation. I just did not try it. YMMV

1) Follow the instructions here https://snapcraft.io/install/nordpass/debian (I rebooted after installing snapcraft AND after core AND after nordpass... just b/c I had such a time of it)

2) after installing nordpass, type in the app launch, open a terminal and type in the launch command (nordpass) and you will likely get this error msg : "/user.slice/user-1000.slice/session-3.scope is not a snap cgroup" There is a page in the snap forums where it talks about "sorta" the same problem here https://forum.snapcraft.io/.../cannot-l ... p.../27700

3 Run the command on the page listed above, which is sudo apt-get install dbus-user-session && systemctl --user start dbus

4) This should cause NORDPASS to launch, but also generate a "keyring" error. I thought this bizarre, as I have always associated keyring errors with gnome, particularly Ubuntu gnome, but I was born yesterday and know nothing, so .... I ran this command after a search:
sudo apt-get update
sudo apt-get install gnome-keyring

5) reboot (this may or may not be necessary... may just be the evil spirits from Windows that have not yet been exorcized!)

6) you will either get a keyring password entry thingey upon boot or upon a terminal command to start nordpass (I don't remember which happens first)
My advice is to disregard the warning when you DO NOT ENTER A PASSWORD and just enter on the password. This will avoid an annoying "nag" of entering your p/w on boot. You aren't using a password keeper ring anyway... that is why you are using Nordpass. Again, up until this point you should NOT be using the gui app launcher. It will act like it is launching and just disappear, with no feedback on the screen. Stay in the terminal so you can see the errors.
At this point in time, you should have a fully functioning version of Nordpass on MX-KDE.

I hope this is helpful.Again, it took me 3 days to figure this out, but that may be more of a comment on my lack of prowess than the difficulty. If so, consider this "one noob to another."
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Re: MX21 (KDE particularly) and NORDPASS

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tanstaafl72555 wrote: Tue Apr 19, 2022 9:29 am I hope this is helpful.Again, it took me 3 days to figure this out, but that may be more of a comment on my lack of prowess than the difficulty. If so, consider this "one noob to another."
Have you tried MX Package Installer -> Populare Applications tab,
which provides a NordVPN installer, working in SysVinit and Systemd:
MXPI-NordVPN.png
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Re: MX21 (KDE particularly) and NORDPASS

#3 Post by tanstaafl72555 »

Yes, and thank you for taking the time to reply. I have used the package manager to install the VPN from Nord. Worked like a charm. I would highly recommend it.

However, this is for problems with the password app from Nord, not the VPN. I put this in here because when you follow the recommended steps from Nord FOR THE PASSWORD APP, you do not get a functioning application. This drove me to such frustration, I actually was considering going back to Mint. However the listed steps above in the OP did work for me and now NordPASS (not Nordvpn) works perfectly so that both Nordvpn AND Nordpass are functioning.

Again, thank you for taking the time and effort to respond. This community, and the willingness of people to try to help, is one of the reasons I tell anyone who will listen to try MX.

Outstanding work, and thanks again.

Tans

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Re: MX21 (KDE particularly) and NORDPASS

#4 Post by fehlix »

tanstaafl72555 wrote: Wed Apr 20, 2022 8:50 am However, this is for problems with the password app from Nord, not the VPN. I put this in here because when you follow the recommended steps from Nord FOR THE PASSWORD APP, you do not get a functioning application. This drove me to such frustration, I actually was considering going back to Mint. However the listed steps above in the OP did work for me and now NordPASS (not Nordvpn) works perfectly so that both Nordvpn AND Nordpass are functioning.
Thanks, I may have missed the point about the recommendation to use NordPASS. I mean does it bring something additional or is it just because it was recommended by the Nord-folks. Would any other password manager do, e.g like KeePassXC.

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Re: MX21 (KDE particularly) and NORDPASS

#5 Post by tanstaafl72555 »

I am sorry to be imprecise. I really don't know much about other pw managers. I just was frustrated with my inability to get NORDPASS to run on MX21 KDE, and thought "maybe another noob will have this kind of issue" (I tried it on 3 different computers.... just to make sure) "and will find this helpful if they desire to install NORDPASS." Yes, Nordpass is in addition to the VPN services. It is a standalone password manager.

I really am too stupid to be able to know what command to issue to find out the errors. Nord asked me to post the logs generated by the install here, but I could not grep any logs at all, anywhere on the machine. Again, it was enough of an issue for me to say "maybe someone else might get stuck and look on the MX forum" (I did) "and not find anything. Maybe I should post this."

Thanks for the help and I hope this may be helpful, as well as an item of interest to the dev team.

Thank you again for a great distro.

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