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Solon
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Re: Updating Flatpacks -- Yes or No?

#11 Post by Solon »

Thanks fellows!
asqwerth your reply is exceptional, and really clears up the Flatpak "issue" as far as I am concerned, and I think your detailed clarification will also prove useful for many. You ought to cut and "save" that text for future use, or maybe put it somewhere on the forum as a sticky for anyone curious about Flatpaks and the upgrade process. Again, thanks!

AND, note to: asqwerth, what I meant to imply is that MX uses (I think) sysvinit, while most Debian distros use systemd these days, not that the underlying packages or code are different. (See, I have learned a (very) small bit about MX over the last year!) :happy:

Mauser, your solution sounds interesting, and when I get to MX 21, if the Flatpak "Update" still does not clear out the LBRY pop-up notices as time goes by, I may well backup my system then try your solution and see if it works for me.

In the meantime, I will use the "Update" Button in MXPI under TAB Flatpaks, experiment with the "Remove unused runtimes" Button, and in the meantime just 'live' with the notices that I get when opening up LBRY.

THANKS TO ALL!!!

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Re: Updating Flatpacks -- Yes or No?

#12 Post by Mauser »

Solon wrote: Thu Feb 24, 2022 5:48 am Thanks fellows!
asqwerth your reply is exceptional, and really clears up the Flatpak "issue" as far as I am concerned, and I think your detailed clarification will also prove useful for many. You ought to cut and "save" that text for future use, or maybe put it somewhere on the forum as a sticky for anyone curious about Flatpaks and the upgrade process. Again, thanks!


Mauser, your solution sounds interesting, and when I get to MX 21, if the Flatpak "Update" still does not clear out the LBRY pop-up notices as time goes by, I may well backup my system then try your solution and see if it works for me.

In the meantime, I will use the "Update" Button in MXPI under TAB Flatpaks, experiment with the "Remove unused runtimes" Button, and in the meantime just 'live' with the notices that I get when opening up LBRY.

THANKS TO ALL!!!
Your welcome. It was posted on the forums here that using "Remove unused runtimes" is not a good idea because it might cause issues with dependencies. I don't recall which member that said this but it makes sense. The amount of disk space difference is negable by removing runtimes. Please forgive my spelling because when I attended school, teachers rarely taught spelling and believed in brainwashing students instead. :mad: I would also like to add that when it comes to LINUX that software developers have yet to develop a spelling checker that works properly. ::)
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Re: Updating Flatpacks -- Yes or No?

#13 Post by asqwerth »

Nope. Don't use the apt autoremove command blindly.

Nothing to do with flatpaks or removing unused runtimes.. And at 1 GB per runtime , I wouldn't say the space saving is insignificant.
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Re: Updating Flatpacks -- Yes or No?

#14 Post by Solon »

Mauser wrote: Thu Feb 24, 2022 12:32 pm
Solon wrote: Thu Feb 24, 2022 5:48 am
Mauser, your solution sounds interesting, and when I get to MX 21, if the Flatpak "Update" still does not clear out the LBRY pop-up notices as time goes by, I may well backup my system then try your solution and see if it works for me.

In the meantime, I will use the "Update" Button in MXPI under TAB Flatpaks, experiment with the "Remove unused runtimes" Button, and in the meantime just 'live' with the notices that I get when opening up LBRY.
You're welcome. It was posted on the forums here that using "Remove unused runtimes" is not a good idea because it might cause issues with dependencies. I don't recall which member that said this but it makes sense. The amount of disk space difference is negable by removing runtimes. Please forgive my spelling because when I attended school, teachers rarely taught spelling and believed in brainwashing students instead. :mad: I would also like to add that when it comes to LINUX that software developers have yet to develop a spell checker that works properly. ::)
Mauser, I thought you would be interested in an update. It has been a month now, and about once a week I have gone into the "Flatpak" section of the MXPI, checked the box for "LBRY", then used the "Update" button, followed by rechecking the box for "LBRY" and hitting the "Remove unused runtimes" button thereafter.

In about 5 times of doing this routine, a couple times it said that there were no updates, and the other times it found, mentioned a few "lines" and added something. Only once did it say that there was something to remove. Meantime, when I would use LBRY, the same annoying box would appear, saying that there were a couple of updates that were available.

HOWEVER, yesterday, when I went to use LBRY, I got NO pop-up window, it just loaded and ran perfectly, without any complaints! So the moral of this story is that -- given time --, any needed adjustments will get into the Flatpaks and can be added to your system safely and conveniently through the MXPI.
asqwerth wrote: Thu Feb 24, 2022 2:01 pm Nope. Don't use the apt autoremove command blindly.

Nothing to do with flatpaks or removing unused runtimes.. And at 1 GB per runtime , I wouldn't say the space saving is insignificant.
Words to live by?!
Must say that asqwerth's post here (#9) above is an extensive discourse how Flatpaks actually work, and well worth the time of any future reader of this series of postings.

Bottom line: USE THE MXPI FOR UPDATING Flatpaks. It will take a while, and you need some patience, but after a bit, they will be updated.

THANKS again -- TO ALL!!!

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