Endeavour OS #13 --> #2

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Endeavour OS #13 --> #2

#1 Post by rasat »

What made Endeavour so popular within one year? Its Arch base, rolling release. What special besides being an active distro?

"EndeavourOS has been around the block for almost two years now, so we are a pretty young distro that still is exploring and discovering new options whilst making its journey."

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#2 Post by SwampRabbit »

Because people are clicking on the Distrowaych link a lot?

It must be getting some attention online (news sites, blogs, YouTube) since it changed from Antergos Linux, so good for them.

I tried it in a VM, didn’t like it myself, there are more user friendly Arch distros out there IMHO.
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#3 Post by anticapitalista »

Why is it successful according to DW 'hits'?

1. It touts itself to be an easy arch linux install
2. It claims to be bloat-free
3. Others

I gave it a try in VBox (yes - not necessarily a fair trial).
Hated it.

* almost 2 GB in size (live iso) with hardly any apps.
* took much longer to install than I expected.

The so-called non-bloated iso file of EndevourOS is way more bloated than MX.
I found it to be much slower to boot as well.

Move along, nothing to see IMO.

I prefer the other end of the (arch) spectrum eg Obarun, Artix.
IMO these 2 are doing something really different (Obarun in particular).
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#4 Post by MXRobo »

Fine, but you haven't defined bloat! ;)

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#5 Post by anticapitalista »

MXRobo wrote: Tue Sep 21, 2021 4:01 pm Fine, but you haven't defined bloat! ;)
Its supporters define EndeavourOS as not bloated, not me :happy: even though the iso is c2GB in size and you get hardly anything on that iso (880 apps plus libs according to Distrowatch). antiX-base at c800MB offers a lot more in less iso size. Now IMO that IS bloat.
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#6 Post by LU344928 »

anticapitalista wrote: Tue Sep 21, 2021 3:35 pm I prefer the other end of the (arch) spectrum eg Obarun, Artix.
IMO these 2 are doing something really different (Obarun in particular).
Haven't checked out Obarun yet but gave Artix - The Art of Linux (as they like to call it) - a try and it's real cool. Arch minus systemd.
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#7 Post by SwampRabbit »

I think by non-bloated they mean post install?

I’m with anti though, pretty much the same experience. I guess for those that like it… “different strokes for different folks”… some people don’t like antiX or MX.

Now Artix, I’m with anti on that one too, I liked using it when I tested it. It just “felt” good. Need to try Obarun.
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#8 Post by manyroads »

FWIW. the last release of EOS does have a much better installer (than earlier) and their community is very helpful. I use eos but still prefer vanilla arch over all others in the arch-ecosphere. But as has been noted here, so much is about personal preference(s). Most of us have an abundance of hard fought (learned) baggage that allows us to enjoy our opinions.
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#9 Post by asqwerth »

Endeavour isn't that new because it was a spiritual successor to antergos. So it's had loyal followers for some time.

Also if I'm not mistaken, manjaro lost some users to them after some unhappiness with the manjaro dev team, direction, and the change in tone in manjaro's forum.

For me, because I had problems keeping antergos running for long in updates (tried twice in VM) unlike my long running apricity install, so I admit I never gave endeavour a chance.
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#10 Post by figueroa »

It's a mystery to me. You made me go and look. Obviously, as much fun as it is to be #1 (Disclaimer: I'm just a user, not a developer.), DistroWatch page hit rankings are not a measure of goodness. There isn't much about anything that is Arch-based (except documentation and depth of forums) that is user friendly or beginner friendly. Everything about MX has been oriented to be helpful to users and especially beginners, which is notably reflected in the forums and the thoughtfulness and patience that the developers and other experienced users show towards beginners and others who need help.
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