LibreWolf

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Sterling
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Re: LibreWolf

#31 Post by Sterling »

I'd just guess a well understood package of a browser with reduced data spreading should tend to increase the crowd that uses it.
(But not sure if librewolf could become that. Re-packaging their binary in lieu of clean patchsets does not seem to be of the better suggestions.)

And it looks somehow like a contradiction, if turning off data collection, that is said to have no value, should lead to the company going out of business. It does not only seem like asking (opt-in/out) to send out data that could allow un-randomizing/matching of other identifiers, there seem to be pretty hardcoded requests to corporate servers (that issue #16).

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andyprough
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Re: LibreWolf

#32 Post by andyprough »

Sterling wrote: Tue Apr 27, 2021 7:13 pm I'd just guess a well understood package of a browser with reduced data spreading should tend to increase the crowd that uses it.
(But not sure if librewolf could become that. Re-packaging their binary in lieu of clean patchsets does nott seem to be of the better suggestions.)

And it looks somehow like a contradiction, if turning off data collection, that is said to have no value, should lead to the company going out of business. It does not only seem like asking (opt-in/out) to send out data that could allow un-randomizing/matching of other identifiers, there seem to be pretty hardcoded requests to corporate servers as (that issue #16).
I wouldn't pay much attention to "get lost in the crowd" arguments against thoughtful privacy protection. They've been proven completely wrong time and again. The only browser that uses the "losing yourself in the crowd" method with any real effectiveness is Tor Browser, which is the only browser that combines that method with a nearly perfect defense against fingerprinting. You definitely are not "lost in the crowd" if all the trackers know exactly who you are and what you are doing because you use Firefox or Chrome or any regular browser where it is dead simple to fingerprint, set cookies, and track IP addresses. Brave has effective anti-fingerprinting if you set it to the "strict" level, but not as strong as Tor browser. Only problem with Tor browser is that a lot of sites refuse to work normally with it. For example, doing banking through Tor is nearly impossible. So we all need a "normal" browser if we are going to do routine online business. Brave with strict anti-fingerprinting is probably the best solution for now, but LibreWolf shows some real promise. I think using LibreWolf with the Chameleon anti-fingerprinting extension has the potential for a significant increase in online privacy, while still being able to do most of your normal online work.
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Re: LibreWolf

#33 Post by SwampRabbit »

andyprough wrote: Tue Apr 27, 2021 6:48 pm Is there some reason you feel the need to publicly lecture me about an issue that I have been studying in great detail? I advised you kindly to back off, next time I won't be so kind.
Woah, did that come off as directly lecturing you?

No reason to get like that... you should know I wouldn’t come at you negatively.

I’ll just take my 21yrs of being cybersecurity professional else where...
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dreamer
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Re: LibreWolf

#34 Post by dreamer »

The problem with LibreWolf is that it isn't a "consumer" browser. If you need to change some setting you might need to change the user.js file. I don't think you can change these settings from within the browser, because they will be reset next start-up when LibreWolf reads the user.js file again.

I think users who are willing/capable of dealing with user.js are also able to download the AppImage.
Note to self and others: SysVinit is a good option. However if you run into problems try with systemd first. This applies to AppImages, Flatpaks, GitHub packages and even some Debian packages.

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andyprough
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Re: LibreWolf

#35 Post by andyprough »

SwampRabbit wrote: Tue Apr 27, 2021 7:55 pm
andyprough wrote: Tue Apr 27, 2021 6:48 pm Is there some reason you feel the need to publicly lecture me about an issue that I have been studying in great detail? I advised you kindly to back off, next time I won't be so kind.
Woah, did that come off as directly lecturing you?

No reason to get like that... you should know I wouldn’t come at you negatively.

I’ll just take my 21yrs of being cybersecurity professional else where...
And I have a 30 year career as an anti-fraud professional with many online fraud investigations and hundreds if not thousands of hours of cybersecurity training. It's possible to state your opinion without denigrating me personally for holding the opposite view or questioning my ability to read and understand data and form an opinion - you should try it sometime.
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Re: LibreWolf

#36 Post by SwampRabbit »

@andyprough Andy I don’t think I don’t think I degenerated anyone directly, let alone you, if someone takes something the wrong way or how they want to for whatever reason I can’t help that.

I honestly don’t know why you’re bent out of shape, but I’m pretty sure it don’t matter either way.

As far as resumes and accolades are concerned, I’m not here to bump cheats. Heck I don’t even try to get into my work or these convos.

People can think what they want, worry about browser fingerprinting all they want, no skin off my back.

I’ll just go back to packaging and leave the forum chit chat to the pros.
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