I wouldn't waste money on MSI motherboards unless you want to throw your money away because they fail quickly. Go with Gigabyte if you want a good reliable computer.devva231 wrote: Fri Mar 26, 2021 1:08 am I am preparing a custom build focused on Win 7 Home and MX Linux 17.1. The build will be mostly for surfing the internet, and streaming movies from sites like putlockers, 123movies, Youtube, etc., but I might be doing occasional video encoding/editing if I ever find anything worth burning to DVD. I expect to get into GIMP, and maybe Photoshop if I ever find one not outrageously priced. Possibly Virtualbox and Sandboxie. I do a lot of Word 2003 stuff. That's about it. No gaming, torrenting, or so on.
So I've completed a parts-list, and checked it for possible problems/incompatibilities with Win 7...if anyone would like to do the same for Linux, your assistance would be appreciated...otherwise I'll just hope for the best
Case: CM Storm Trooper (SGC-5000-KKN1)
CPU: i7-4790k
Cooler: Noctua NH-D14
*Motherboard:
MSI Z97 Gaming 5
MSI Z87-GD65 Gaming
MSI Z97-GD65 Gaming
MSI Z97-G45
MSI Z97A Gaming 6
RAM: G.Skill Ripjaws X-series 32GB (4x8GB) DDR3-1600 CL9
*Video card: Geforce GTX Ti 2GB or GeForce GTX 560 Ti
DVD burner: (two) Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/AS
Storage:
(two) WD Caviar Black 1TB 3.5 7200rpm
Crucial MX500 500GB SSD (for MX Linux)
Mobile rack: (Two) Syba SY-MRA55006
Power Supply: Seasonic Focus 650 W80+ Gold
*motherboards and graphic cards all look to be about equal, so I'll likely just buy the first one I find.
Parts-list needs checking...
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It is always way better to have what you don't need, than to need what you don't have. Just because Win7 only uses 16GB RAM, doesn't mean MX Linux can't use more, or a LiveCD (Linux Mint, Kodachi, TAILS) can't use more, or GIMP, or video encoding/editing, or whatever. But let's just say, just for the sake of saying, that I'll have 32GB of RAM, and absolutely nothing will never-ever use more than 16GB. So what? Will the sun implode, will you be denied your fair share of RAM modules, or a thousand panties be thrown into a perpetual atomic wedgie? By all means tell me your worst case scenario, resulting from me having 16GB RAM more than I will ever use...enquiring minds wanna know.junoluna wrote: Fri Mar 26, 2021 4:06 am considering that everything you do with a computer is so regressive, i think your proposed set up is massive overkill
why on earth would you want 32 gigs of RAM just to run slimjet and office 2003?
i know linux is all about choice and i have read your posts about why you run antiquated software despite all the advice (including that of the developers)...... i recently got rid of my smart phone ... they annoy me and i pretty much don't need one ... life was so much less bzzzz and bing bing and all was good until i was riding my bicycle home and got a puncture without a repair kit 11 miles from home and about 20 from the nearest telephone box
still ... i like cutting off my nose to spite my face ....
Shall I tell you a horrible secret? I never had a smart phone to get rid of, nor any pocketphone at all, and having never had one, I never became dependent on one, which is one reason why I never will have one. As for "considering that everything you do with a computer is so regressive, i think your proposed set up is massive overkill", explain exactly why then I would need the 'latest&greatest', instead of the "antiquated software"? It would seem to me that regressive use and antiquated software are quite compatible notions.
Re: Parts-list needs checking...
The motherboards were chosen for various criteria. CPU compatibility. Maximum number of PCIe slots & SATA connectors. Minimum 16GB RAM capacity. Native support for Win 7. VGA port. Good reviews on NewEgg, Amazon, etc. I did look into Gigabyte boards, but the only models for i7-4790k, and having decent reviews, were lacking in the other areas. If you know of any specific Gigabyte motherboards that can match what the MSI boards offer, I'll certainly take a look.Mauser wrote: Fri Mar 26, 2021 11:42 pmI wouldn't waste money on MSI motherboards unless you want to throw your money away because they fail quickly. Go with Gigabyte if you want a good reliable computer.devva231 wrote: Fri Mar 26, 2021 1:08 am I am preparing a custom build focused on Win 7 Home and MX Linux 17.1. The build will be mostly for surfing the internet, and streaming movies from sites like putlockers, 123movies, Youtube, etc., but I might be doing occasional video encoding/editing if I ever find anything worth burning to DVD. I expect to get into GIMP, and maybe Photoshop if I ever find one not outrageously priced. Possibly Virtualbox and Sandboxie. I do a lot of Word 2003 stuff. That's about it. No gaming, torrenting, or so on.
So I've completed a parts-list, and checked it for possible problems/incompatibilities with Win 7...if anyone would like to do the same for Linux, your assistance would be appreciated...otherwise I'll just hope for the best
Case: CM Storm Trooper (SGC-5000-KKN1)
CPU: i7-4790k
Cooler: Noctua NH-D14
*Motherboard:
MSI Z97 Gaming 5
MSI Z87-GD65 Gaming
MSI Z97-GD65 Gaming
MSI Z97-G45
MSI Z97A Gaming 6
RAM: G.Skill Ripjaws X-series 32GB (4x8GB) DDR3-1600 CL9
*Video card: Geforce GTX Ti 2GB or GeForce GTX 560 Ti
DVD burner: (two) Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/AS
Storage:
(two) WD Caviar Black 1TB 3.5 7200rpm
Crucial MX500 500GB SSD (for MX Linux)
Mobile rack: (Two) Syba SY-MRA55006
Power Supply: Seasonic Focus 650 W80+ Gold
*motherboards and graphic cards all look to be about equal, so I'll likely just buy the first one I find.
Re: Parts-list needs checking...
devva231 wrote: Sat Mar 27, 2021 12:13 amGigabyte motherboards far exceed MSI rubbish. Don't go by those false reviews since they are from MSI employees. My first MSI motherboard went up in smoke on the first boot-up. The second one died after just over a month. Only buy MSI if you want your money to go up in smoke. Good luck.Mauser wrote: Fri Mar 26, 2021 11:42 pm
The motherboards were chosen for various criteria. CPU compatibility. Maximum number of PCIe slots & SATA connectors. Minimum 16GB RAM capacity. Native support for Win 7. VGA port. Good reviews on NewEgg, Amazon, etc. I did look into Gigabyte boards, but the only models for i7-4790k, and having decent reviews, were lacking in the other areas. If you know of any specific Gigabyte motherboards that can match what the MSI boards offer, I'll certainly take a look.
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I copy & paste to the terminal. Liars, Wiseguys, Trolls, and those without manners will be added to my ignore list. 


Re: Parts-list needs checking...
I had an old AS Rock socket AM2+ motherboard that failed. That doesn't mean that all AS Rock motherboards are "rubbish" that will also die. Anecdotes and personal opinions ≠ facts and data. That being said, I have no experience with MSI motherboards as most of mine have been Asus which I'm fond of as they support their boards with BIOS updates for sometimes years after the board's discontinued. Speaking of anecdotes I once had an old 486-66 which thanks to Asus's continuing BIOS updates was running a Pentium 90 when I finally got rid of it.
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