MX Nvidia installer breaks systemd

[JuhaT]

Not that recent. The CPU, mobo and video card date from 2017 or 2018. They should be fully supported by the standard AHS 5.6 kernel.

Still waiting for the OP to try booting without systemd and test whether the nvidia driver works, and for him to tell us which driver he installed, etc. as per my post #5.

I have done that when testing earlier, the 440 driver works fine for me when booting into sysvinit. I now run the noveau driver but I'll post my specs for info.

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System:    Host: <filter> Kernel: 5.6.0-2-amd64 x86_64 bits: 64 compiler: gcc v: 8.3.0 
           parameters: BOOT_IMAGE=/boot/vmlinuz-5.6.0-2-amd64 root=UUID=<filter> ro quiet splash 
           init=/lib/systemd/systemd 
           Desktop: KDE Plasma 5.14.5 wm: kwin_x11 dm: SDDM Distro: MX-19.2_KDE_x64 patito feo August 16  2020 
           base: Debian GNU/Linux 10 (buster) 
Machine:   Type: Desktop System: Gigabyte product: Z390 GAMING X v: N/A serial: <filter> 
           Mobo: Gigabyte model: Z390 GAMING X-CF v: x.x serial: <filter> UEFI [Legacy]: American Megatrends v: F9 
           date: 10/15/2019 
CPU:       Topology: 8-Core model: Intel Core i7-9700K bits: 64 type: MCP arch: Kaby Lake family: 6 model-id: 9E (158) 
           stepping: D (13) microcode: D6 L2 cache: 12.0 MiB 
           flags: avx avx2 lm nx pae sse sse2 sse3 sse4_1 sse4_2 ssse3 vmx bogomips: 57600 
           Speed: 800 MHz min/max: 800/4900 MHz Core speeds (MHz): 1: 800 2: 800 3: 800 4: 800 5: 800 6: 800 7: 800 8: 800 
           Vulnerabilities: Type: itlb_multihit status: KVM: Split huge pages 
           Type: l1tf status: Not affected 
           Type: mds status: Not affected 
           Type: meltdown status: Not affected 
           Type: spec_store_bypass mitigation: Speculative Store Bypass disabled via prctl and seccomp 
           Type: spectre_v1 mitigation: usercopy/swapgs barriers and __user pointer sanitization 
           Type: spectre_v2 mitigation: Enhanced IBRS, IBPB: conditional, RSB filling 
           Type: srbds mitigation: TSX disabled 
           Type: tsx_async_abort mitigation: TSX disabled 
Graphics:  Device-1: NVIDIA GP104 [GeForce GTX 1070] vendor: Gigabyte driver: nouveau v: kernel bus ID: 01:00.0 
           chip ID: 10de:1b81 
           Display: x11 server: X.Org 1.20.4 driver: modesetting unloaded: fbdev,vesa compositor: kwin_x11 tty: N/A 
           OpenGL: renderer: NV134 v: 4.3 Mesa 20.0.7 direct render: Yes 
Audio:     Device-1: Intel Cannon Lake PCH cAVS vendor: Gigabyte driver: snd_hda_intel v: kernel bus ID: 00:1f.3 
           chip ID: 8086:a348 
           Device-2: NVIDIA GP104 High Definition Audio vendor: Gigabyte driver: snd_hda_intel v: kernel bus ID: 01:00.1 
           chip ID: 10de:10f0 
           Sound Server: ALSA v: k5.6.0-2-amd64 
Network:   Device-1: Intel Ethernet I219-V vendor: Gigabyte driver: e1000e v: 3.2.6-k port: efa0 bus ID: 00:1f.6 
           chip ID: 8086:15bc 
           IF: eth0 state: up speed: 100 Mbps duplex: half mac: <filter> 
           IF-ID-1: vpn76-se-sto state: unknown speed: N/A duplex: N/A mac: N/A 
Drives:    Local Storage: total: 5.11 TiB used: 28.04 GiB (0.5%) 
           ID-1: /dev/sda vendor: Samsung model: SSD 860 EVO 1TB size: 931.51 GiB block size: physical: 512 B logical: 512 B 
           speed: 6.0 Gb/s serial: <filter> rev: 1B6Q scheme: MBR 
           ID-2: /dev/sdb vendor: Samsung model: SSD 850 EVO 250GB size: 232.89 GiB block size: physical: 512 B logical: 512 B 
           speed: 6.0 Gb/s serial: <filter> rev: 2B6Q scheme: GPT 
           ID-3: /dev/sdc vendor: Seagate model: ST2000DX001-1CM164 size: 1.82 TiB block size: physical: 4096 B logical: 512 B 
           speed: 6.0 Gb/s rotation: 7200 rpm serial: <filter> rev: CC43 scheme: MBR 
           ID-4: /dev/sdd vendor: Samsung model: SSD 870 QVO 2TB size: 1.82 TiB block size: physical: 512 B logical: 512 B 
           speed: 6.0 Gb/s serial: <filter> rev: 1B6Q scheme: GPT 
           ID-5: /dev/sde vendor: Samsung model: SSD 860 EVO M.2 250GB size: 232.89 GiB block size: physical: 512 B 
           logical: 512 B speed: 6.0 Gb/s serial: <filter> rev: 3B6Q scheme: MBR 
           ID-6: /dev/sdf type: USB vendor: Western Digital model: WDS1 20G2G0A-00JH30 size: 111.80 GiB block size: 
           physical: 512 B logical: 512 B serial: <filter> rev: 0107 
Partition: ID-1: / raw size: 29.34 GiB size: 28.76 GiB (98.00%) used: 9.95 GiB (34.6%) fs: ext4 dev: /dev/sdb1 
           ID-2: /home raw size: 203.54 GiB size: 199.35 GiB (97.94%) used: 18.09 GiB (9.1%) fs: ext4 dev: /dev/sdb2 
Sensors:   System Temperatures: cpu: 34.0 C mobo: 27.8 C gpu: nouveau temp: 31 C 
           Fan Speeds (RPM): N/A gpu: nouveau fan: 1218 
Repos:     No active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list 
           Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/brave-browser-release.list 
           1: deb [arch=amd64] https://brave-browser-apt-release.s3.brave.com/ buster main
           Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian-stable-updates.list 
           1: deb http://deb.debian.org/debian buster-updates main contrib non-free
           Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian.list 
           1: deb http://deb.debian.org/debian buster main contrib non-free
           2: deb http://deb.debian.org/debian-security buster/updates main contrib non-free
           Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/megasync.list 
           1: deb https://mega.nz/linux/MEGAsync/Debian_10.0/ ./
           Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/mx.list 
           1: deb http://ftp.acc.umu.se/mirror/mxlinux.org/packages/mx/repo/ buster main non-free
           2: deb http://ftp.acc.umu.se/mirror/mxlinux.org/packages/mx/repo/ buster ahs
           Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/unstable.list 
           1: deb http://deb.debian.org/debian/ unstable main
           No active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/various.list 
Info:      Processes: 259 Uptime: 18h 21m Memory: 23.49 GiB used: 4.50 GiB (19.1%) Init: systemd v: 241 runlevel: 5 default: 5 
           Compilers: gcc: 8.3.0 alt: 8 Shell: quick-system-in running in: quick-system-in inxi: 3.0.36 

[tony37]

I have done that when testing earlier, the 440 driver works fine for me when booting into sysvinit. I now run the noveau driver but I'll post my specs for info.

I think it could be very helpful to have a kernel log of a systemd session where you used the nvidia driver. That log would be in /var/log/kern.log
You can also remove the 'quiet splash' boot parameters to see if you get some clear error on your screen when you boot with nvidia+systemd but maybe it will fly past too quickly.
When you get in such a scrambled command-line prompt, you can try to boot with startx like MH3 mentioned in post #4.

edit: /var/log/Xorg.0.log may be relevant too

[linexer2016]

Just a suggestion ... does this thread have some similarities to viewtopic.php?f=108&t=60048

[fehlix]

Just installed latest nvidia driver in a fresh MX KDE installation.
What I have done:
purged all dmks, I don't need virtualbox (on this pc), broadcom, ( and I looked for ndiswrapper to purge, but was not installed.)
Now I run

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mx-pkexec ddm-mx -i nvidia

And installed nvidia 440.100 driver from the main repo.
That's it. Rebooted and run in either systemd or sysvinit just fine:
optirun glxspheres64
and
optirun quick-system-info-mx

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System:    Host: <filter> Kernel: 5.6.0-2-amd64 x86_64 bits: 64 compiler: gcc v: 8.3.0 
           parameters: BOOT_IMAGE=/boot/vmlinuz-5.6.0-2-amd64 root=UUID=<filter> ro quiet splash 
           init=/lib/systemd/systemd 
           Desktop: KDE Plasma 5.14.5 wm: kwin_x11 dm: SDDM Distro: MX-19.2_KDE_x64 patito feo August 16  2020 
           base: Debian GNU/Linux 10 (buster) 
Machine:   Type: Laptop System: Acer product: Aspire A515-51G v: V1.12 serial: <filter> 
           Mobo: KBL model: Charmander_KL v: V1.12 serial: <filter> UEFI [Legacy]: Insyde v: 1.12 date: 11/08/2017 
Battery:   ID-1: BAT1 charge: 44.1 Wh condition: 44.1/48.9 Wh (90%) volts: 16.6/15.2 model: COMPAL PABAS0241231 type: Li-ion 
           serial: <filter> status: Full 
CPU:       Topology: Quad Core model: Intel Core i7-8550U bits: 64 type: MT MCP arch: Kaby Lake family: 6 model-id: 8E (142) 
           stepping: A (10) microcode: D6 L2 cache: 8192 KiB 
           flags: avx avx2 lm nx pae sse sse2 sse3 sse4_1 sse4_2 ssse3 vmx bogomips: 31999 
           Speed: 2840 MHz min/max: 400/4000 MHz Core speeds (MHz): 1: 2840 2: 2842 3: 2828 4: 2805 5: 2623 6: 2837 7: 2813 
           8: 1990 
           Vulnerabilities: Type: itlb_multihit status: KVM: Split huge pages 
           Type: l1tf mitigation: PTE Inversion; VMX: conditional cache flushes, SMT vulnerable 
           Type: mds mitigation: Clear CPU buffers; SMT vulnerable 
           Type: meltdown mitigation: PTI 
           Type: spec_store_bypass mitigation: Speculative Store Bypass disabled via prctl and seccomp 
           Type: spectre_v1 mitigation: usercopy/swapgs barriers and __user pointer sanitization 
           Type: spectre_v2 mitigation: Full generic retpoline, IBPB: conditional, IBRS_FW, STIBP: conditional, RSB filling 
           Type: srbds mitigation: Microcode 
           Type: tsx_async_abort status: Not affected 
Graphics:  Device-1: Intel UHD Graphics 620 vendor: Acer Incorporated ALI driver: i915 v: kernel bus ID: 00:02.0 
           chip ID: 8086:5917 
           Device-2: NVIDIA GP108M [GeForce MX150] vendor: Acer Incorporated ALI driver: nvidia v: 440.100 bus ID: 01:00.0 
           chip ID: 10de:1d10 
           Display: x11 server: X.Org 1.20.4 driver: modesetting unloaded: fbdev,vesa compositor: kwin_x11 
           resolution: 1920x1080~60Hz 
           OpenGL: renderer: GeForce MX150/PCIe/SSE2 v: 4.6.0 NVIDIA 440.100 direct render: Yes 
Audio:     Device-1: Intel Sunrise Point-LP HD Audio vendor: Acer Incorporated ALI driver: snd_hda_intel v: kernel 
           bus ID: 00:1f.3 chip ID: 8086:9d71 
           Sound Server: ALSA v: k5.6.0-2-amd64 
Network:   Device-1: Realtek RTL8111/8168/8411 PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet vendor: Acer Incorporated ALI driver: r8169 
           v: kernel port: 3000 bus ID: 02:00.1 chip ID: 10ec:8168 
           IF: eth0 state: up speed: 100 Mbps duplex: full mac: <filter> 
           Device-2: Qualcomm Atheros QCA9377 802.11ac Wireless Network Adapter vendor: Lite-On driver: ath10k_pci v: kernel 
           port: 3000 bus ID: 03:00.0 chip ID: 168c:0042 
           IF: wlan0 state: down mac: <filter> 
Drives:    Local Storage: total: 1.86 TiB used: 12.85 GiB (0.7%) 
           ID-1: /dev/sda vendor: Western Digital model: WD10SPZX-21Z10T0 size: 931.51 GiB block size: physical: 4096 B 
           logical: 512 B speed: 6.0 Gb/s rotation: 5400 rpm serial: <filter> rev: 1A02 scheme: GPT 
           ID-2: /dev/sdb vendor: Crucial model: CT1050MX300SSD4 size: 978.09 GiB block size: physical: 512 B logical: 512 B 
           speed: 6.0 Gb/s serial: <filter> rev: R040 scheme: GPT 
Partition: ID-1: / raw size: 30.00 GiB size: 29.40 GiB (98.01%) used: 12.85 GiB (43.7%) fs: ext4 dev: /dev/sdb17 
           ID-2: swap-1 size: 4.00 GiB used: 0 KiB (0.0%) fs: swap swappiness: 15 (default 60) cache pressure: 100 (default) 
           dev: /dev/sdb15 
Sensors:   System Temperatures: cpu: 50.0 C mobo: N/A 
           Fan Speeds (RPM): N/A 
Repos:     No active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list 
           Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian-stable-updates.list 
           1: deb http://deb.debian.org/debian buster-updates main contrib non-free
           Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian.list 
           1: deb http://deb.debian.org/debian buster main contrib non-free
           2: deb http://deb.debian.org/debian-security buster/updates main contrib non-free
           Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/mx.list 
           1: deb https://mxlinux.mirror.iphh.net/packages/mx/repo/ buster main non-free
           2: deb https://mxlinux.mirror.iphh.net/packages/mx/repo/ buster ahs
           No active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/various.list 
Info:      Processes: 257 Uptime: 3m Memory: 19.50 GiB used: 842.5 MiB (4.2%) Init: systemd v: 241 runlevel: 5 default: 5 
           Compilers: gcc: 8.3.0 alt: 8 Shell: quick-system-in running in: quick-system-in inxi: 3.0.36 

So all works fine in systemd and sysvinit, without any issue.

[JuhaT]

Just a suggestion ... does this thread have some similarities to viewtopic.php?f=108&t=60048

Thank you! That solved the problem for me!

I used the Nvidia installer in MX-tools. Chose default on every question. Added the code "xorg=nvidia" into "kernel parameters" in MX Boot Options and now nvidia driver works in systemd!

[dolphin_oracle]

Just a suggestion ... does this thread have some similarities to viewtopic.php?f=108&t=60048

Thank you! That solved the problem for me!

I used the Nvidia installer in MX-tools. Chose default on every question. Added the code "xorg=nvidia" into "kernel parameters" in MX Boot Options and now nvidia driver works in systemd!

that actually shouldn't have worked. the xorg=nvidia doesn't do anything on installed systems (the commands its triggers don't even exist) , and systemd doesn't work correctly on live systems.

so I remain stumped.

[dolphin_oracle]

this part of the OP's post makes me think the display manager isn't starting.

I have since performed another clean install. Once logged in I used MX Tools to modify GRUB so that it would boot into systemd by default. I then used MX Tools to install the Nvidia driver. I rebooted the machine and was left at a terminal prompt. I was able to login, first as root, later as a regular user, albeit the text in the terminal is garbled and can be confusing if you mistype a character. After one failed attempt, I was able to issue the "startx" command, both as root and as a regular user. In both cases, Plasma was launched successfully. I've copied the Quick System Info below:

checking

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systemd-analyze blame 

may be beneficial. or looking for stopped and/or pending jobs.

the arch wiki has some info in their nvidia troubleshooting guide that says that its possible on fast systems that systemd will try to start the display manager before nvidia is finished getting set up. there are some tweaks for that.

https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/NV ... tarts_fine

[tony37]

that actually shouldn't have worked. the xorg=nvidia doesn't do anything on installed systems (the commands its triggers don't even exist) , and systemd doesn't work correctly on live systems.

so I remain stumped.

I'm just guessing but maybe there was a problem in the beta (when JuhaT had this problem) and now it's been solved (miraculously or not).

[SwampRabbit]

Interesting. Apparently the forum moderators don't like bug reports, in spite of this being a form for bug reports. I've made two subsequent posts on this topic providing the information requested and neither of them have shown up.

Oh please, you don't need to make blanked and false statements like this to get help. A simple forum search would prove that quickly.

It's a well know fact that not only the MX team, but also users, will go far out of their way to help users identify if something is a bug or not.
Everything reported as an issue isn't always a bug, sometimes there is a logical explanation to a issue that isn't a bug or something goofed up on MX.

There was already a known fix for certain Nvidia issues suggested on post #17 here.

I was actually about to drop everything I have to do for my real job to burn a fresh ISO onto a USB to do what fehlix just did, but they beat me to it.

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           Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/unstable.list 
           1: deb http://deb.debian.org/debian/ unstable main
           No active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/various.list 

I'm gonna go out on a limb and say that is a really bad idea. If you are keeping this repo enabled and or are installing large amounts of things from Debian Unstable, you should post in the MX Modified section of the forum.

[SwampRabbit]

Rather than using MX Boot Options to modify boot parameters, has someone with Nvidia issues tried to simply select booting with systemd at the actual GRUB menu?