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Re: Web Browsers

#21 Post by rokytnji.1 »

Dillo and Links2 on the sites that support them. Like Linuxquestions.org.

For all other sites and google app compatibility

Firefox-esr

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Re: Web Browsers

#22 Post by dreamer »

Head_on_a_Stick wrote: Sat May 16, 2020 5:01 am Debian's firefox-esr package because it's compiled with --enable-alsa, it strips out the user studies (embedded spyware), it's supported by Debian's Security Team and so receives any bug fixes *very* quicky and it doesn't include all the latest new bugs, sorry, features that are present in the non-ESR version.
I agree with that. I also like that MX packages the latest version so you can check out what is coming.

My main complaint against Firefox is that they have put a Preferences/Settings system in place that can be changed remotely without the need for a browser update.

https://wiki.mozilla.org/Firefox/Norman ... nceRollout

You can disable this setting, but it can be enabled with next browser update.

I have used Pale Moon for years and hope they can keep up. The devs state that the application itself collects nothing and I believe them. Their sites and forum use cookies (and maybe ads?), but they aren't part of the browser application so that's fine.

Sometimes I use Chrome, because the web is becoming chromified.
Note to self and others: SysVinit is a good option. However if you run into problems try with systemd first. This applies to AppImages, Flatpaks, GitHub packages and even some Debian packages.

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Re: Web Browsers

#23 Post by Head_on_a_Stick »

dreamer wrote: Sat May 16, 2020 7:28 pmMy main complaint against Firefox is that they have put a Preferences/Settings system in place that can be changed remotely without the need for a browser update.

https://wiki.mozilla.org/Firefox/Norman ... nceRollout

You can disable this setting, but it can be enabled with next browser update.
OpenBSD disable that by default: https://github.com/openbsd/ports/blob/m ... nbsd.js#L4

As do I: https://github.com/Head-on-a-Stick/shar ... bang.js#L5

Use that line in /usr/lib/firefox-esr/browser/defaults/preferences/all-dreamer.js to disable it permanently (I think it also needs a commented line to start the file).
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Re: Web Browsers

#24 Post by i_ri »

hello eriefisher and everyone


machines here have run seamonkey_64or32 cross-platform for past years. seamonkey everywhere for those reasons plus prefer its compact gui, downloader, image handling, composer. . . .
android version is not a thing here.. nor sync.

Within attempt to remain practiced and friendly always with all current browser offers, today's new install MX19mxflux_64 is looking through
seamonkey -with tab preview and suite
firefox ..-with sync
basilisk_64
links2 ...-with quick
konqueror with kplugins.
all good ones.

In agreement with the feeling that one for bank and one for purchase/ travel/ and one for division of purpose with bookmarks, extensions, cookie, cache, hardware permissions, security, printer, network settings to match navigation needs can be a comfort and convenience for work as well.

How it handles web mail account features is considered here one of the hardest test to be pleasing in all the webmail eboxes, eddresses, folders, clouds. requiring new window not tab.

I like to read about browsers. Thanks for posting the resources around your use and specs for a benchmarkish information. Do tell more. wide range here, 32bit generally shows well managed resources on MX-Linux systems, umm, remarkably low?, and _64 reasonable on this list.

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#25 Post by linexer2016 »

Since reading this thread I have installed Brave. Early days but so far (and I tweaked the privacy settings to suit my taste) I am quite impressed with Brave. I have even made it my default browser which knocked FFox off its perch.
Thanks eriefisher for starting the thread and all who've contributed.

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#26 Post by andyprough »

i_ri wrote: Sat May 16, 2020 11:31 pm seamonkey -with tab preview and suite
firefox ..-with sync
basilisk_64
links2 ...-with quick
konqueror with kplugins.
all good ones.

I like to read about browsers. Thanks for posting the resources around your use and specs for a benchmarkish information. Do tell more. wide range here, 32bit generally shows well managed resources on MX-Linux systems, umm, remarkably low?, and _64 reasonable on this list.
That's a good list, I'm a big fan of basilisk as well, very exciting technology they are working on with that one.
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Re: Web Browsers

#27 Post by i_ri »

"My hat is off" to the MX package maintainers affording a great selection of many browsers. bravo. Thanks.

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#28 Post by dreamer »

Head_on_a_Stick wrote: Sat May 16, 2020 7:44 pm
dreamer wrote: Sat May 16, 2020 7:28 pmMy main complaint against Firefox is that they have put a Preferences/Settings system in place that can be changed remotely without the need for a browser update.

https://wiki.mozilla.org/Firefox/Norman ... nceRollout

You can disable this setting, but it can be enabled with next browser update.
OpenBSD disable that by default: https://github.com/openbsd/ports/blob/m ... nbsd.js#L4

As do I: https://github.com/Head-on-a-Stick/shar ... bang.js#L5

Use that line in /usr/lib/firefox-esr/browser/defaults/preferences/all-dreamer.js to disable it permanently (I think it also needs a commented line to start the file).
Thanks. I have followed your advice. Firefox ESR feels reasonably private now. The same can be done for regular Firefox with the addition of the studies optout. Not sure if the BSD guys got that right though:

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pref("app.shield.optoutstudies.enabled", false);
That line looks weird to me, but I haven't tested it. Unfortunately, Chrome is needed for a few sites, but that's just how it is. I have contacted one or two sites, but apparently only supporting Chrome is OK from their perspective. Wasn't HTML5 supposed to be the open source framework that could handle anything on the web? Now it seems Google is inventing their own stuff.
Note to self and others: SysVinit is a good option. However if you run into problems try with systemd first. This applies to AppImages, Flatpaks, GitHub packages and even some Debian packages.

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#29 Post by Head_on_a_Stick »

dreamer wrote: Sun May 17, 2020 3:19 pmThe same can be done for regular Firefox with the addition of the studies optout. Not sure if the BSD guys got that right though
Check about:preferences#privacy → "Firefox Data Collection and Use" → "Allow Firefox to install and run studies" and also the about:studies page.
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#30 Post by dreamer »

Head_on_a_Stick wrote: Sun May 17, 2020 3:57 pm
dreamer wrote: Sun May 17, 2020 3:19 pmThe same can be done for regular Firefox with the addition of the studies optout. Not sure if the BSD guys got that right though
Check about:preferences#privacy → "Firefox Data Collection and Use" → "Allow Firefox to install and run studies" and also the about:studies page.
This is the correct line to disable future studies in regular Firefox. Make sure to also check about:studies because already running studies have to be terminated manually.

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pref("app.shield.optoutstudies.enabled", true);
Note to self and others: SysVinit is a good option. However if you run into problems try with systemd first. This applies to AppImages, Flatpaks, GitHub packages and even some Debian packages.

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