Nitpick: Live system overrides keyboard setting

[dreamer]

In Europe it's pretty common (for geeks) to use English system language (easier troubleshooting) and localized keyboards (easier typing in native language).

This doesn't work in the live system, because there is no setting for keyboard on the live boot screen. If you choose English (US) language you'll end up with US keyboard at LightDM login screen.

And that LightDM keyboard list is loooong...

I thought I would mention this, because it works in the installer, but not live (persistence-static).

[dolphin_oracle]

In Europe it's pretty common (for geeks) to use English system language (easier troubleshooting) and localized keyboards (easier typing in native language).

This doesn't work in the live system, because there is no setting for keyboard on the live boot screen. If you choose English (US) language you'll end up with US keyboard at LightDM login screen.

And that LightDM keyboard list is loooong...

I thought I would mention this, because it works in the installer, but not live (persistence-static).

there should be a keyboard chooser on the lightdm login screen (language too). Upper right, although on live autologin would normally bypass it, you could logout and login .

[dreamer]

In Europe it's pretty common (for geeks) to use English system language (easier troubleshooting) and localized keyboards (easier typing in native language).

This doesn't work in the live system, because there is no setting for keyboard on the live boot screen. If you choose English (US) language you'll end up with US keyboard at LightDM login screen.

And that LightDM keyboard list is loooong...

I thought I would mention this, because it works in the installer, but not live (persistence-static).

there should be a keyboard chooser on the lightdm login screen (language too). Upper right, although on live autologin would normally bypass it, you could logout and login .

Yes, but this was a nitpick. I want the keyboard setting to stick in persistence-static mode.

[dolphin_oracle]

Ok, gotcha!

after you have the stick set up the way you want, reboot, do the customize live boot menus again, and for language select "default". It think that will not change your language or keyboard, going with whatever is configured on your persistent system.

[fehlix]

In Europe it's pretty common (for geeks) to use English system language (easier troubleshooting) and localized keyboards (easier typing in native language).
This doesn't work in the live system, because there is no setting for keyboard on the live boot screen. If you choose English (US) language you'll end up with US keyboard at LightDM login screen.

In both variants UEFI- or BIOS-booting, you can boot into a live system with having chosen a language, keyboard and a timezone. If those combinations are not available from the selection menu, you can simply at those boot options manually:
E.g I do often boot with lang=en_US and keyboard as "de" and timezone as "Europe/Berlin".
Just add to the boot-options parameter this:

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lang=en_US kbd=de tz=Europe/Berlin

Or you choose F2/F3 language and timezone and just add:

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kbd=de

In bios-booting you can re-view your current boot parameter by pressing F12.
Here you can see at the login screen booting from LiveISO, that my boot-parameter
will have the pre-selected language and keyboard:

keyboard_login.png

[dreamer]

Ok, gotcha!
after you have the stick set up the way you want, reboot, do the customize live boot menus again, and for language select "default".

There is no default in that menu.

In both variants UEFI- or BIOS-booting, you can boot into a live system with having chosen a language, keyboard and a timezone. If those combinations are not available from the selection menu, you can simply at those boot options manually:
E.g I do often boot with lang=en_US and keyboard as "de" and timezone as "Europe/Berlin".
Just add to the boot-options parameter this:

Code: Select all

lang=en_US kbd=de tz=Europe/Berlin

Or you choose F2/F3 language and timezone and just add:

Code: Select all

kbd=de

In bios-booting you can re-view your current boot parameter by pressing F12.
Here you can see at the login screen booting from LiveISO, that my boot-parameter
will have the pre-selected language and keyboard:

keyboard_login.png

Thanks, fehlix. I did what you described. It worked. Only odd thing is that a custom boot entry was created on the live boot screen with my boot parameters. I think a keyboard option is needed here. Not every keyboard layout. Just copy language menu and attach the standard keyboard layout for those countries and the live boot screen would be more complete. It's difficult to type boot parameters when language setting hijacks keyboard layout so I needed to switch between languages to type correctly on the boot screen.

Just my 2 cents. Thanks for your help.

[BitJam]

I think a keyboard option is needed here. Not every keyboard layout. Just copy language menu and attach the standard keyboard layout for those countries and the live boot screen would be more complete. It's difficult to type boot parameters when language setting hijacks keyboard layout so I needed to switch between languages to type correctly on the boot screen.

We don't have room for another menu. We worked hard to squeeze in all the menus we already have. The menus we do have were created with a Lisp-like language used by gfxboot. You can see our source code and the documentation for the language in my Gfxboot repo.

[dreamer]

We don't have room for another menu. We worked hard to squeeze in all the menus we already have. The menus we do have were created with a Lisp-like language used by gfxboot. You can see our source code and the documentation for the language in my Gfxboot repo.

Yeah, I thought it was because of space constraints. It's a nice looking boot screen. I haven't seen the UEFI boot screen. Maybe more room there? Don't worry, just kidding... I just wanted to promote the idea of a keyboard menu, because I think it belongs there if it is possible to implement and if you/devs think it should be there and want to implement it. If it's just extra work, it shouldn't be there.

[dolphin_oracle]

the UEFI live boot does have a "default" under the language entry, but you're right, I don't see one on legacy bios boot.