MX and Devuan?

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malspa
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Re: MX and Devuan?

#41 Post by malspa »

Adrian wrote: Mon Nov 12, 2018 10:01 pmI suggest people who have strong opinions about systemd use Devuan instead of trying to make other distros go into the same trap.
Excellent suggestion.
asqwerth wrote: Mon Nov 12, 2018 11:32 pmI don't install non-systemd distros then seek to install Gnome on them, and then get upset if some systemd-related package gets pulled in.
Makes sense.

I do think that a Devuan base might attract quite a few more users, but personally if I was trying to avoid systemd I'd probably install Devuan itself instead.

As for GNOME, I do like using it sometimes (I have GNOME in one of my Debian installations), but I've never tried to add it in MX, or even in Mepis, back in the day (before systemd). That has never seemed like a good idea to me. Like, I wouldn't add GNOME or Xfce to my Kubuntu installation, even though they're available in the repos.

Interesting discussion. Like the OP, I had been wondering if antiX and MX might end up going with a Devuan base. Sounds like that won't be happening, and for good reasons.
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Re: MX and Devuan?

#42 Post by Buck Fankers »

I'm glad that this topic, question was started, I have learned a lot and now I like antiX/MX even more ;-)
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Re: MX and Devuan?

#43 Post by manyroads »

By way of adding a bit of context to my perspective and/or reason for my original question/ inquiry...

* I have been testing systemd free distros (because there seems to be a religious war going on around the issue of systemd). I wanted to see if I could understand what all the fuss is/was about (without the strong opinion and emotion). To that end, I have tried and run Artix, antiX, Devuan...
* Prior to that, I had been testing and experimenting with XFCE4 dominant distros (which is how I came to be here). As many of you have noticed, I like this distro a lot, especially because of its MX tools. I, also, find these forums incredibly helpful.
* As I learned about MX & antiX, I noticed mention of a unique 'middle-ground' approach in dealing with systemd.
* I thought I could benefit by testing Devuan (its primary DE being xfce4 and it heavily claims its systemd independence and Debian heritage). To be honest, I was/am a bit 'underwhelmed' by their xfce4 setup.

Given that background and my interest in helping test the next release here, I thought I'd ask if consideration had been given by MX in offering Devuan as a foundational OS option, in the next release- much like what LinuxMint does with Ubuntu & Debian.

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Re: MX and Devuan?

#44 Post by Jerry3904 »

Your question was good; not so certain about some of the answers...
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Re: MX and Devuan?

#45 Post by Adrian »

Jerry3904 wrote: Tue Nov 13, 2018 9:56 am Your question was good; not so certain about some of the answers...
42?
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Re: MX and Devuan?

#46 Post by Buck Fankers »

Adrian wrote: Tue Nov 13, 2018 10:03 am
Jerry3904 wrote: Tue Nov 13, 2018 9:56 am Your question was good; not so certain about some of the answers...
42?
42!
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Re: MX and Devuan?

#47 Post by Jerry3904 »

I don't know what Adrian meant with that, but I thought your response was fine.
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Re: MX and Devuan?

#48 Post by ChrisUK »

Jerry3904 wrote: Tue Nov 13, 2018 11:34 am I don't know what Adrian meant with that, but I thought your response was fine.
https://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/42_(answer)

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Re: MX and Devuan?

#49 Post by Adrian »

Now that we know he answer to life, the universe and everything, the question remains: why are people so touchy?
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Re: MX and Devuan?

#50 Post by manyroads »

@adrian Maybe that answer is also 42?!?!?
@buck fankers, I thought your response was helpful and constructive. It was in perfect keeping with "Life, the Universe and Everything" :snoopy2:
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