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Occasionaly loss of control on touchpad & Keyboard

#1 Post by harrykar »

It's happened to me 2-3 times in a month so far. With laptop's screen closed and the battery almost exhausted, opening the screen and connecting the charger the cursor moves but clicking on things has no effect also can't go into shell(unresponsiveness) so have to turn the laptop off from his on/off button.
Up I bolded battery's sentence because only in that case i notice that behaviour. Someone of you guys experienced something like that?
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System:
  Kernel: 6.6.9-1-liquorix-amd64 [6.6-11~mx23ahs] arch: x86_64 bits: 64 compiler: gcc v: 12.2.0 parameters: audit=0
    intel_pstate=disable rcupdate.rcu_expedited=1 BOOT_IMAGE=/vmlinuz-6.6.9-1-liquorix-amd64
    root=UUID=<filter> ro rootflags=subvol=@ quiet splash fbcon=nodefer
  Desktop: Xfce v: 4.18.1 tk: Gtk v: 3.24.36 info: xfce4-panel wm: xfwm v: 4.18.0 vt: 7
    dm: LightDM v: 1.26.0 Distro: MX-23.1_ahs_x64 Libretto October 15  2023 base: Debian GNU/Linux
    12 (bookworm)
Machine:
  Type: Laptop System: HP product: HP 250 15.6 inch G9 Notebook PC v: Type1ProductConfigId
    serial: <superuser required> Chassis: type: 10 serial: <superuser required>
  Mobo: HP model: 8A1D v: 08.37 serial: <superuser required> UEFI: Insyde v: F.59
    date: 02/04/2023
Battery:
  ID-1: BAT1 charge: 40.2 Wh (100.0%) condition: 40.2/41.0 Wh (98.1%) volts: 13.0 min: 11.3
    model: Hewlett-Packard PABAS0241231 type: Li-ion serial: <filter> status: full
CPU:
  Info: model: 12th Gen Intel Core i5-1235U bits: 64 type: MST AMCP arch: Alder Lake level: v3
    note: check built: 2021+ process: Intel 7 (10nm ESF) family: 6 model-id: 0x9A (154) stepping: 4
    microcode: 0x430
  Topology: cpus: 1x cores: 10 mt: 2 tpc: 2 st: 8 threads: 12 smt: enabled cache: L1: 928 KiB
    desc: d-8x32 KiB, 2x48 KiB; i-2x32 KiB, 8x64 KiB L2: 6.5 MiB desc: 2x1.2 MiB, 2x2 MiB L3: 12 MiB
    desc: 1x12 MiB
  Speed (MHz): avg: 531 high: 782 min/max: 400/2501 boost: enabled scaling: driver: acpi-cpufreq
    governor: ondemand cores: 1: 692 2: 700 3: 782 4: 500 5: 400 6: 500 7: 400 8: 400 9: 500 10: 500
    11: 500 12: 500 bogomips: 59904
  Flags: avx avx2 ht lm nx pae sse sse2 sse3 sse4_1 sse4_2 ssse3 vmx
  Vulnerabilities:
  Type: gather_data_sampling status: Not affected
  Type: itlb_multihit status: Not affected
  Type: l1tf status: Not affected
  Type: mds status: Not affected
  Type: meltdown status: Not affected
  Type: mmio_stale_data status: Not affected
  Type: retbleed status: Not affected
  Type: spec_rstack_overflow status: Not affected
  Type: spec_store_bypass mitigation: Speculative Store Bypass disabled via prctl
  Type: spectre_v1 mitigation: usercopy/swapgs barriers and __user pointer sanitization
  Type: spectre_v2 mitigation: Enhanced / Automatic IBRS, IBPB: conditional, RSB filling,
    PBRSB-eIBRS: SW sequence
  Type: srbds status: Not affected
  Type: tsx_async_abort status: Not affected
Graphics:
  Device-1: Intel Alder Lake-UP3 GT2 [UHD Graphics] vendor: Hewlett-Packard driver: i915 v: kernel
    arch: Gen-12.2 process: Intel 10nm built: 2021-22+ ports: active: eDP-1 empty: DP-1, DP-2, DP-3,
    HDMI-A-1 bus-ID: 00:02.0 chip-ID: 8086:4628 class-ID: 0300
  Device-2: Cheng Uei Precision Industry (Foxlink) HP True Vision HD Camera type: USB
    driver: uvcvideo bus-ID: 1-5:2 chip-ID: 05c8:0b05 class-ID: 0e02 serial: <filter>
  Display: x11 server: X.Org v: 1.21.1.7 compositor: xfwm v: 4.18.0 driver: X:
    loaded: modesetting unloaded: fbdev,vesa dri: iris gpu: i915 display-ID: :0.0 screens: 1
  Screen-1: 0 s-res: 1920x1080 s-dpi: 96 s-size: 508x285mm (20.00x11.22") s-diag: 582mm (22.93")
  Monitor-1: eDP-1 model: ChiMei InnoLux 0x153b built: 2020 res: 1920x1080 hz: 60 dpi: 142
    gamma: 1.2 size: 344x193mm (13.54x7.6") diag: 394mm (15.5") ratio: 16:9 modes: 1920x1080
  API: OpenGL v: 4.6 Mesa 23.1.2-1~mx23ahs renderer: Mesa Intel Graphics (ADL GT2)
    direct-render: Yes
Audio:
  Device-1: Intel Alder Lake PCH-P High Definition Audio vendor: Hewlett-Packard
    driver: sof-audio-pci-intel-tgl alternate: snd_hda_intel,snd_sof_pci_intel_tgl bus-ID: 00:1f.3
    chip-ID: 8086:51c8 class-ID: 0401
  API: ALSA v: k6.6.9-1-liquorix-amd64 status: kernel-api tools: alsamixer,amixer
  Server-1: PipeWire v: 1.0.0 status: active with: 1: pipewire-pulse status: active
    2: wireplumber status: active 3: pipewire-alsa type: plugin 4: pw-jack type: plugin
    tools: pactl,pw-cat,pw-cli,wpctl
Network:
  Device-1: Realtek RTL8111/8168/8411 PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet vendor: Hewlett-Packard
    driver: r8169 v: kernel pcie: gen: 1 speed: 2.5 GT/s lanes: 1 port: 4000 bus-ID: 02:00.0
    chip-ID: 10ec:8168 class-ID: 0200
  IF: eth0 state: down mac: <filter>
  Device-2: Realtek vendor: Hewlett-Packard driver: rtw89_8852be v: kernel modules: wl pcie:
    gen: 1 speed: 2.5 GT/s lanes: 1 port: 3000 bus-ID: 03:00.0 chip-ID: 10ec:b852 class-ID: 0280
  IF: wlan0 state: up mac: <filter>
Bluetooth:
  Device-1: Realtek Bluetooth Radio type: USB driver: btusb v: 0.8 bus-ID: 1-10:3
    chip-ID: 0bda:b85c class-ID: e001 serial: <filter>
  Report: hciconfig ID: hci0 rfk-id: 3 state: up address: <filter>
  Info: acl-mtu: 1021:6 sco-mtu: 255:12 link-policy: rswitch hold sniff park
    link-mode: peripheral accept service-classes: rendering, capturing, audio, telephony
Drives:
  Local Storage: total: 476.94 GiB used: 124.52 GiB (26.1%)
  SMART Message: Unable to run smartctl. Root privileges required.
  ID-1: /dev/nvme0n1 maj-min: 259:0 vendor: Western Digital model: WD PC SN740 SDDPNQD-512G-1006
    size: 476.94 GiB block-size: physical: 512 B logical: 512 B speed: 63.2 Gb/s lanes: 4 type: SSD
    serial: <filter> rev: HPS3 temp: 38.9 C scheme: GPT
Partition:
  ID-1: / raw-size: 463.42 GiB size: 463.42 GiB (100.00%) used: 123.12 GiB (26.6%) fs: btrfs
    dev: /dev/dm-0 maj-min: 253:0 mapped: luks-<filter>
  ID-2: /boot raw-size: 1024 MiB size: 973.4 MiB (95.06%) used: 214 MiB (22.0%) fs: ext4
    dev: /dev/nvme0n1p2 maj-min: 259:2
  ID-3: /boot/efi raw-size: 512 MiB size: 511 MiB (99.80%) used: 288 KiB (0.1%) fs: vfat
    dev: /dev/nvme0n1p1 maj-min: 259:1
  ID-4: /home raw-size: 463.42 GiB size: 463.42 GiB (100.00%) used: 123.12 GiB (26.6%) fs: btrfs
    dev: /dev/dm-0 maj-min: 253:0 mapped: luks-<filter>
Swap:
  Kernel: swappiness: 15 (default 60) cache-pressure: 100 (default)
  ID-1: swap-1 type: partition size: 11.98 GiB used: 1.19 GiB (9.9%) priority: -2 dev: /dev/dm-1
    maj-min: 253:1 mapped: luks-<filter>
Sensors:
  System Temperatures: cpu: 55.0 C mobo: N/A
  Fan Speeds (RPM): cpu: 0 fan-2: 0
Repos:
  Packages: pm: dpkg pkgs: 2352 libs: 1216 tools: apt,apt-get,aptitude,nala,synaptic pm: rpm
    pkgs: 0 pm: flatpak pkgs: 0
  No active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list
  Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/backports.list
    1: deb https://deb.debian.org/debian/ bookworm-backports main contrib non-free
  Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian-stable-updates.list
    1: deb http://deb.debian.org/debian bookworm-updates main contrib non-free non-free-firmware
  Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian.list
    1: deb http://deb.debian.org/debian bookworm main contrib non-free non-free-firmware
    2: deb http://security.debian.org/debian-security bookworm-security main contrib non-free non-free-firmware
  Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/fasttrack.list
    1: deb https://fasttrack.debian.net/debian/ bookworm-fasttrack main contrib non-free
  Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/librewolf.list
    1: deb [arch=amd64] http://deb.librewolf.net bookworm main
  Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/mx.list
    1: deb http://ftp.cc.uoc.gr/mirrors/linux/mx/mx/repo/ bookworm main non-free
    2: deb http://ftp.cc.uoc.gr/mirrors/linux/mx/mx/repo/ bookworm ahs
Info:
  Processes: 409 Uptime: 8h 15m wakeups: 51566 Memory: 7.45 GiB used: 3.57 GiB (47.9%)
  Init: SysVinit v: 3.06 runlevel: 5 default: graphical tool: systemctl Compilers: gcc: 12.2.0
  alt: 12 clang: 14.0.6 Client: shell wrapper v: 5.2.15-release inxi: 3.3.26
Boot Mode: UEFI
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Re: Occasionaly loss of control on touchpad & Keyboard  [Solved]

#2 Post by CharlesV »

I have seen this without the battery being really low... I found I was able to actually type my password in, and get it to unlock. (no dialog, just when its 'frozen' type in your password. )

If you have the xfce4 screen saver on board, remove it. you can add xscreensaver which is better and doesnt have all the issues.
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Re: Occasionaly loss of control on touchpad & Keyboard

#3 Post by harrykar »

CharlesV wrote: Mon Jan 08, 2024 1:02 pm I have seen this without the battery being really low... I found I was able to actually type my password in, and get it to unlock. (no dialog, just when its 'frozen' type in your password. )
Hi CharrlesV!
After 2 notifications at circa ~2-3% of remaining battery screen(when lid is up and me in front --the issue manifest when screen lid is down--) goes blueish and put me on login screen and there I can type my password
If you have the xfce4 screen saver on board, remove it. you can add xscreensaver which is better and doesnt have all the issues.
I'm not accustomed how(where) can i see what is the actual sceensaver?(I'm default after Mx's installation)

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$ neofetch 
@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@   harrykar@mx 
@@@@@@@@@@@@%*+--:------=+*%@@@@@@@@@@@@   ----------- 
@@@@@@@@@#=. .-+#%@@@@@%#*+--=#@@@@@@@@@   OS: MX x86_64 
@@@@@@@+. .=%@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@*-:+@@@@@@@   Host: HP 250 15.6 inch G9 Notebook PC 
@@@@@*.  *@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@%-.*@@@@@   Kernel: 6.6.9-1-liquorix-amd64 
@@@@-  -@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@#:  -@@@@   Uptime: 9 hours, 57 mins 
@@@:  -@@@@@@@=.*@@@@@@@@@@@@%-   = :@@@   Packages: 2352 (dpkg) 
@@=  .@@@@@@@@%- :%@@@@@@@@@+   -%@# =@@   Shell: bash 5.2.15 
@%   +@@@@@@@@@@#. =@@@@@@*.  .*@@@@. %@   Resolution: 1920x1080 
@+   *@@@@@@*..*@@+  *@@%-   =@@@@@@- +@   DE: Xfce 4.18 
@=   *@@@@%-    -%@@- :=   -%@@@@@@@: +@   WM: Xfwm4 
@+   :@@@=        +@@=   .#@@@@@@@@%  *@   WM Theme: mx-comfort 
@%    +*.          .:     *@@#: +@@:  @@   Theme: mx-comfort [GTK2/3] 
@@+                   :%@- :-    ::  +@@   Icons: Papirus [GTK2], Adwaita [GTK3] 
@@@-                  .=@@=         -@@@   Terminal: xfce4-terminal 
@@+.                     .           +@@   Terminal Font: Liberation Mono 12 
%=..:.................::...........:..-%   CPU: 12th Gen Intel i5-1235U (12) @ 2.501GHz 
@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@   GPU: Intel Alder Lake-UP3 GT2 [UHD Graphics] 
                                           Memory: 2577MiB / 7626MiB
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Re: Occasionaly loss of control on touchpad & Keyboard

#4 Post by CharlesV »

in the terminal you can check like this:

apt list xfce4-screensaver

if it shows that it is installed (default it is )

Then I would remove it, and then install xscreensaver
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Re: Occasionaly loss of control on touchpad & Keyboard

#5 Post by CharlesV »

another method, run MX Package Installer and search for screensaver

Check the Enabled repos page and it will show you all of them, and you can see what is installed there too.
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Re: Occasionaly loss of control on touchpad & Keyboard

#6 Post by MXRobo »

Possibly – MX-Tweak→ Other – Use libinput driver instead of synaptics…. (or vice versa) Not available in MX-23??
quasi déjà vu forgetfulness

I don't know, and I"m probably stating the obvious, but "~2-3% of remaining battery" seems very low, and I'd probably try to avoid that if possible.

And I'm not posting my problem, just mentioning, but previously – occasionally but consistently my cursor would become unresponsive and eventually freeze the system. I haven't seen others doing this, but simply opening the "Mouse and Touchpad" app and closing it stops it from freezing – yes sounds like superstition. I will add that it's so ingrained in me to do this that I have not, not done this for quite some time, and I get very frequent automatic liquorix kernel updates. I should try and not do it to see if it still freezes.

Or try removing the screensaver.
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Re: Occasionaly loss of control on touchpad & Keyboard

#7 Post by harrykar »

CharlesV wrote: Mon Jan 08, 2024 1:31 pm in the terminal you can check like this:

apt list xfce4-screensaver

if it shows that it is installed (default it is )
You're right xfce4-screensaver is here:

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$apt list xfce4-screensaver
Listing... Done
xfce4-screensaver/mx,now 4.18.2-0.1~mx23+1 amd64 [installed]
xfce4-screensaver/mx 4.18.2-0.1~mx23+1 i386
Then I would remove it, and then install xscreensaver
Remind me please screensaver != login screen right? It's the black screen after x minutes of not use ?

PS: Sorry my fault I pressed ! instead of quoting in your post :(
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#8 Post by CharlesV »

Right, screensaver is not the login screen. However ,there are issues with that screen saver and some cause problems when attempting to log back in.
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Re: Occasionaly loss of control on touchpad & Keyboard

#9 Post by harrykar »

CharlesV wrote: Mon Jan 08, 2024 2:27 pm Right, screensaver is not the login screen. However ,there are issues with that screen saver and some cause problems when attempting to log back in.
Done Thank you! require restart?

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$ sudo apt remove  xfce4-screensaver
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree... Done
Reading state information... Done
The following package was automatically installed and is no longer required:
  gir1.2-libxfce4util-1.0
Use 'sudo apt autoremove' to remove it.
The following packages will be REMOVED:
  xfce4-screensaver
0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 1 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
After this operation, 1,485 kB disk space will be freed.
Do you want to continue? [Y/n] y
(Reading database ... 330095 files and directories currently installed.)
Removing xfce4-screensaver (4.18.2-0.1~mx23+1) ...
Processing triggers for hicolor-icon-theme (0.17-2) ...
Processing triggers for gnome-menus (3.36.0-1.1) ...
Processing triggers for man-db (2.11.2-2) ...
Processing triggers for mailcap (3.70+nmu1) ...
Processing triggers for desktop-file-utils (0.26-1) ...
harrykar@mx:~
$ sudo apt install xscreensaver
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree... Done
Reading state information... Done
The following package was automatically installed and is no longer required:
  gir1.2-libxfce4util-1.0
Use 'sudo apt autoremove' to remove it.
The following additional packages will be installed:
  xscreensaver-data
Suggested packages:
  fortune gdm3 | kdm-gdmcompat qcam | streamer xdaliclock xfishtank xscreensaver-data-extra
  xscreensaver-gl xscreensaver-gl-extra
The following NEW packages will be installed:
  xscreensaver xscreensaver-data
0 upgraded, 2 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
Need to get 818 kB of archives.
After this operation, 4,181 kB of additional disk space will be used.
Do you want to continue? [Y/n] y
Get:1 http://deb.debian.org/debian bookworm/main amd64 xscreensaver-data amd64 6.06+dfsg1-3 [379 kB]
Get:2 http://deb.debian.org/debian bookworm/main amd64 xscreensaver amd64 6.06+dfsg1-3 [439 kB]
Fetched 818 kB in 0s (2,142 kB/s) 
Selecting previously unselected package xscreensaver-data.
(Reading database ... 330029 files and directories currently installed.)
Preparing to unpack .../xscreensaver-data_6.06+dfsg1-3_amd64.deb ...
Unpacking xscreensaver-data (6.06+dfsg1-3) ...
Selecting previously unselected package xscreensaver.
Preparing to unpack .../xscreensaver_6.06+dfsg1-3_amd64.deb ...
Unpacking xscreensaver (6.06+dfsg1-3) ...
Setting up xscreensaver-data (6.06+dfsg1-3) ...
Setting up xscreensaver (6.06+dfsg1-3) ...
Processing triggers for mailcap (3.70+nmu1) ...
Processing triggers for fontconfig (2.14.1-4) ...
Processing triggers for desktop-file-utils (0.26-1) ...
Processing triggers for gnome-menus (3.36.0-1.1) ...
Processing triggers for man-db (2.11.2-2) ...
Processing triggers for menu (2.1.49) ...
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Re: Occasionaly loss of control on touchpad & Keyboard

#10 Post by Charlie Brown »

MXRobo wrote: Mon Jan 08, 2024 2:07 pm... MX-Tweak→ Other – Use libinput ...
On MX-23 no such option cause it's already libinput by default. That was up to MX-21.3 :)
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