Unblinking cursor on black screen initial startup problem [Solved]

[artytux]

After reading your post @j2mcgreg I looked that up and yeah OK , I don't like to fiddle with pc internal hardware, I never have and do not know how to replace the CMOS battery or reseat it so it's better if I take the computer to the tech that built it, that will have to wait until after easter,
in the interim I'll give him a phone call,
so yeah Thank You and wow never would have guessed or thought of that umm . . gobsmacked .

[j2mcgreg]

After reading your post @j2mcgreg I looked that up and yeah OK , I don't like to fiddle with pc internal hardware, I never have and do not know how to replace the CMOS battery or reseat it so it's better if I take the computer to the tech that built it, that will have to wait until after easter,
in the interim I'll give him a phone call,
so yeah Thank You and wow never would have guessed or thought of that umm . . gobsmacked .

Just in case you decide not to wait, it's really easy as this video shows:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S9hyEPTFR10

[artytux]

Interesting Video , when I finally (3rd time lucky) got to it (Invidious is a pain), like I wrote interesting and far too many small parts and wires so yeah no not unless it dies out completely and ugh then maybe, anyway the bad thing will be shops will be shut over Easter, Oh Mercy

[Charlie Brown]

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the fast boot was/is disabled
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A - wouldn't that just reset fast boot and secure boot back on ?..

Yes, but the one I meant was particularly on Windows (within Windows settings). (Though yours is not 10 but 11, roughly the same, how to)

After resetting Bios settings just disable back Secure Boot (and FS, too if you like), "save & exit" ..


(In the meantime, the version won't go back, therefore nothing to worry even when one had upgraded Bios)

edit
I still consider you @Charlie Brown a genius.

Thank you so much. You make me shy, I'm a "shy cowboy" :)

[artytux]

Well wrote down the notes on paper, will do those items in the next day(S) , looks like I have to fire up that windows 11 os, feel like I should just wipe windows off and leave the Garmin GPS outdated this windows 11 is a big pain and I should have not bothered with it ( didn't know that windows 11 thou on a separate SSD would still be so intrusive !

so do this settings in windows 11 uh huh
get the tech bloke to check the battery that j2mcgreg wrote about uh huh
and tech man can check the rams if seating properly uh huh

If things don't work out properly with the tech man we may have to be wiping windows 11 off the 1st ssd. mm :smile

all that has to wait until next week, don't get paid (hope) until then, I'm overdue for a headache.

be back soon.

[artytux]

The few days I've to work on this computer have been interesting and strange, days of paper notes, chasing problems that could stem from having Windows 11 installed so this computer refuses to startup as a normal computer could should do.
prev suggested and done
@Charlie Brown
Ram reseating was the first idea OK strange reason this seemed to work only on that one day
then fix also secure boot and fast boot that was already disabled in BIOS so go into Win 11 and disable in there also.
@j2mcgreg
Replacing the CMOS battery a good idea could be faulty, as prev post got instructions

The shop that I was going to for CMOS battery shut for 12 days (Oh that's just great)
replaced CMOS battery, phew no breakages clumsiness is always just around the corner lately things just seem to go wrong/break,
BIOS wants time reset, OK where don't see it, ignore for now, (more later)
While in there recheck make sure secure and fast boot disabled, yep.
Startup Win 11 found and disabled greyed out secure and fast boot disable also, instructions helped a lot.

Updated the Win 11 install Ooh words really fail me here, it's so slow to update then reboots many times and then configures as many times, if anyone uses Windows on a daily you have my condolences, while in Windows got the Garmin GPS desktop icon and link setup and it's updated all ready for its update maps in six months next time on Win 11.
so
Back to MXL, startup really a reboot not really a startup from fully off thou, did not start No activity umm now what.
Go back into Win 11 make sure setting are how should be now yep they are
try again MXL still wont bootup on It's own
Back into Win 11 did notice the time was off last in there by about 10 hours early so fixed that.
BIOS has not complained since so must be OK

Back to MXLinux from here on is no tinkering in computer settings
just used power button presses for on and off.

0400 hrs and MXL startup good worked, one good startup is just one had that before with the reseat of RAM.
0640 hrs power on startup got nothing so powered off, here we go again.
0730 hrs power on startup got all MXL up and running so fast umm. Powered off to try mygood luck.
0745 hrs power on up startup all good so then got the MXL updates Inc fresh LQKernel 6.7.11 got rid of LQKernel 6.7.10 few minutes for updates
so MXLinux system updated and rebooted with LQKernel 6.7.11

next day
0800 hrs nothing on startup , no don't do this again dammit, away from home doing few hours work.
1700 hrs nop no startup, very busy lately this does not help.

on the day after
0745 hrs startup worked in seemed less than a minute, MXL is ready today, worked computer all day long had heaps to do.

then today
0500 hrs no startup press power off leave it off.
0545 hrs no startup , Don't like this pressing the power-off button seems just asking for trouble
0815 hrs press the Esc key , not wanting to press the power=off button does not seem right to do that, althou computer startsup fine when powered on that way (Uh still Hm), why do that when Esc key press avoids what could be, seems to me a brutal power off.

MXLinux is running just fine once I get past the (I reckon) Win 11 hurdles.

The changes in BIOS to turn off the secure and fast boot don't seem to hold all that much water (is it the Windows install)
considering that I had to go into Windows for a completeness of setting changes,
maybe not on all computers have this only a recent hidden (closed source feature) that sharing installs with distros other than Windows but definitely seems to happen here with Win 11, even thou they are on separate drives.

Is Microsoft on these new computers trying to make it more difficuft for any other distro Linux or other is on the system to discourage people from venturing away from Windows with dual boot umm, could that be.

I would have posted earlier it's just there was no consistent flow (I was trying to find some pattern) to the startup results , some startups worked some didn't, did not want to jump to conclusions when could not find a pattern.
I am over it, this problem is being not consistent and is annoying.
More annoying is having to keep Windows installed here for the Garmin GPS (equally as annoying) I do need to have the GPS.
For the interest of keeping what remains of my sanity I will not be pursueing this small inconvenience,

All for the pushing of one Esc button a few times (just to be sure computer get the message) when it starts up, just not worth the effort with no consistent results to work with
and of work if too many folders are open with work in different areas then I will leave computer 'on' save the hassle of shutting the ongoing work.
So easy fix is to leave computer on or if turned off use the ESC key on startup, Keep It Simply Simple !

Apologies if this seems long but I reckon a good explanation could be of use to someone maybe.
Sorry to trouble you all with all this.
So a big
Thank You to j2mcgreg
and a big
Thank You to Charlie Brown
for the time and help offered

Warm Regards
artytux

[artytux]

Update

Had to wait for the later kernels

Sometime from getting Liquorix 6.8 the first one in that series that just be chance well OK I'd not woke properly, didn't go with the press keys to get computer up and running and computer started up on it own,
PEBKAC brain was on auto didn't register, week or so later the penny dropped and tried again without pressing keys computer started up alone the next day again + + +.

I am so remiss in reporting that improvement . Complete egg on face,

apologizes to @j2mcgreg your sig says what the solution is/was "In Linux, newer isn't always better. The best solution is the one that works."

Apologizes to @Charlie Brown for the time spent helping

I work on my own so at times things don't get done/forgotten.

Apologizes the solution is 'wait the time - newer computer it had to wait for newer kernel. sorry for not posting earlier weeks ago.

[CharlesV]

Glad to hear it is resolved :-)

[artytux]

Many Thanks @CharlesV , mm yea sort out one thing then another pops up HahHah.