MX Linux INstall from Live version [Solved]

[MXwontInstall]

I have the xfce version on USB, it opens the live version of MX21.
When I click the Install Mx Linux option, it does nothing but circle those flower petals for extreme lengths of time.
I just give up trying, and press the power button to shut down, and go back to Leap to get some things done.

I have tried to install several times. NO SUCCESS.

SYSTEM:
I Have an older 64bit HP Compaq DC7700 CMT, with three HDD's, Main drive is WIndows 10 and WIndows 7.PLUS a version of Opensuse Leap 15.3 with KDE
A 2nd HDD has nothing but Another version of Opensuse Leap 15.3 with xfce DE.

I have a third 160G drive I am trying to install MX on. IT is empty. I have pre-formatted it 'unalocaled', fat32. vfat etc, again NO success regardless of the format.

What can I do to get it past that flower that just spins for hours on end?

I there an iso for MX that is direct install, without having go through the live version off the USB stick to install? IF SO, WHERE IS IT?

[dolphin_oracle]

The live isos are the only isos.

Perhaps posting the quick system info while running live would be good

And also the /var/log/minstall.log file which may tell us where it’s jamming up.

[figueroa]

You could, maybe, rsync the running live / directory to the / of an ext4 partition on the drive you want to use excluding the /live directory (add /live to the list of what's not rsynced), then manage your own installed /etc/fstab and install a boot loader. I haven't tried this but I'm thinking it might work. It would be about an 8 GB transfer. Follow the rsync method noted in the following link:
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/rs ... tem_backup
Even if it doesn't work, it won't do any harm unless you rsync to the wrong destination.

However, if you can't start the installer there may likely be something wrong with your live-usb. You may get useful feedback by running the minstall command from the commandline:

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sudo minstall

You'll get a lot of screen output even when it's working correctly.

[MXwontInstall]

OK, Thanks folks,
I will try @dolphin_oracle's thing tomorrow evening. To late tonight. That live version is a slow turtle to work with.
@figuero's may be well above my head to try, but worth reading through again.

[MXwontInstall]

quick system info

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System:
  Kernel: 5.10.0-13-amd64 x86_64 bits: 64 compiler: gcc v: 10.2.1 
  parameters: quiet splasht nosplash 
  Desktop: KDE Plasma 5.20.5 wm: kwin_x11 vt: 7 dm: SDDM 
  Distro: MX-21.1_KDE_x64 Wildflower April 9  2022 
  base: Debian GNU/Linux 11 (bullseye) 
Machine:
  Type: Desktop System: Hewlett-Packard 
  product: HP Compaq dc7700 Convertible Minitower v: N/A 
  serial: <filter> Chassis: type: 6 serial: <filter> 
  Mobo: Hewlett-Packard model: 0A58h serial: <filter> 
  BIOS: Hewlett-Packard v: 786E1 v01.16 date: 08/17/2011 
Battery:
  Device-1: hidpp_battery_0 model: Logitech Wireless Mouse M310/M310t 
  serial: <filter> charge: 55% (should be ignored) rechargeable: yes 
  status: Discharging 
CPU:
  Info: Dual Core model: Intel Core2 6300 bits: 64 type: MCP 
  arch: Core Merom family: 6 model-id: F (15) stepping: 6 microcode: D0 
  cache: L2: 2 MiB 
  flags: lm nx pae sse sse2 sse3 ssse3 vmx bogomips: 7442 
  Speed: 1673 MHz min/max: 1596/1867 MHz Core speeds (MHz): 1: 1673 
  2: 1656 
  Vulnerabilities: Type: itlb_multihit status: KVM: VMX disabled 
  Type: l1tf mitigation: PTE Inversion; VMX: EPT disabled 
  Type: mds status: Vulnerable: Clear CPU buffers attempted, no 
  microcode; SMT disabled 
  Type: meltdown mitigation: PTI 
  Type: spec_store_bypass status: Vulnerable 
  Type: spectre_v1 
  mitigation: usercopy/swapgs barriers and __user pointer sanitization 
  Type: spectre_v2 mitigation: Retpolines, STIBP: disabled, RSB filling 
  Type: srbds status: Not affected 
  Type: tsx_async_abort status: Not affected 
Graphics:
  Device-1: AMD Cedar [Radeon HD 5000/6000/7350/8350 Series] 
  vendor: XFX Pine driver: radeon v: kernel bus-ID: 01:00.0 
  chip-ID: 1002:68f9 class-ID: 0300 
  Display: x11 server: X.Org 1.20.13 compositor: kwin_x11 driver: 
  loaded: ati,radeon unloaded: fbdev,modesetting,vesa display-ID: :0 
  screens: 1 
  Screen-1: 0 s-res: 1680x1050 s-dpi: 96 s-size: 444x277mm (17.5x10.9") 
  s-diag: 523mm (20.6") 
  Monitor-1: VGA-0 res: 1680x1050 hz: 60 dpi: 99 
  size: 430x270mm (16.9x10.6") diag: 508mm (20") 
  OpenGL: renderer: AMD CEDAR (DRM 2.50.0 / 5.10.0-13-amd64 LLVM 12.0.1) 
  v: 3.3 Mesa 21.2.5 compat-v: 3.1 direct render: Yes 
Audio:
  Device-1: Intel 82801H HD Audio vendor: Hewlett-Packard Compaq dc7700p 
  driver: snd_hda_intel v: kernel bus-ID: 00:1b.0 chip-ID: 8086:284b 
  class-ID: 0403 
  Device-2: AMD Cedar HDMI Audio [Radeon HD 5400/6300/7300 Series] 
  vendor: XFX Pine driver: snd_hda_intel v: kernel bus-ID: 01:00.1 
  chip-ID: 1002:aa68 class-ID: 0403 
  Sound Server-1: ALSA v: k5.10.0-13-amd64 running: yes 
  Sound Server-2: PulseAudio v: 14.2 running: yes 
Network:
  Device-1: Intel 82566DM Gigabit Network vendor: Hewlett-Packard 
  driver: e1000e v: kernel port: 3000 bus-ID: 00:19.0 chip-ID: 8086:104a 
  class-ID: 0200 
  IF: eth0 state: down mac: <filter> 
  Device-2: Realtek RTL8169 PCI Gigabit Ethernet driver: r8169 v: kernel 
  port: 1000 bus-ID: 07:04.0 chip-ID: 10ec:8169 class-ID: 0200 
  IF: eth1 state: up speed: 1000 Mbps duplex: full mac: <filter> 
RAID:
  Hardware-1: Silicon Image PCI0680 Ultra ATA-133 Host Controller 
  driver: pata_sil680 v: 0.4.9 port: 1100 bus-ID: 07:09.0 
  chip-ID: 1095.0680 rev: 02 class-ID: 0104 
Drives:
  Local Storage: total: 792.73 GiB used: 2.3 GiB (0.3%) 
  SMART Message: Unable to run smartctl. Root privileges required. 
  ID-1: /dev/sda maj-min: 8:0 vendor: Western Digital 
  model: WD1600AAJB-00PVA0 size: 149.05 GiB block-size: physical: 512 B 
  logical: 512 B speed: <unknown> type: N/A serial: <filter> rev: 7H00 
  scheme: MBR 
  ID-2: /dev/sdb maj-min: 8:16 vendor: Seagate 
  model: ST500NM0011 00W1141 00W1445IBM size: 465.76 GiB block-size: 
  physical: 512 B logical: 512 B speed: 3.0 Gb/s type: HDD rpm: 7202 
  serial: <filter> rev: BB4A scheme: MBR 
  ID-3: /dev/sdc maj-min: 8:32 vendor: Seagate model: ST3160815AS 
  size: 149.01 GiB block-size: physical: 512 B logical: 512 B 
  speed: 1.5 Gb/s type: N/A serial: <filter> rev: A scheme: MBR 
  ID-4: /dev/sdd maj-min: 8:48 type: USB model: USB DISK 2.0 
  size: 28.91 GiB block-size: physical: 512 B logical: 512 B type: N/A 
  serial: <filter> rev: PMAP scheme: MBR 
  SMART Message: Unknown USB bridge. Flash drive/Unsupported enclosure? 
Swap:
  Kernel: swappiness: 15 (default 60) cache-pressure: 100 (default) 
  ID-1: swap-1 type: partition size: 10 GiB used: 0 KiB (0.0%) 
  priority: -2 dev: /dev/sda1 maj-min: 8:1 
  ID-2: swap-2 type: partition size: 8 GiB used: 0 KiB (0.0%) 
  priority: -3 dev: /dev/sdb5 maj-min: 8:21 
Sensors:
  System Temperatures: cpu: 49.0 C mobo: N/A gpu: radeon temp: 38.5 C 
  Fan Speeds (RPM): N/A 
Repos:
  Packages: note: see --pkg apt: 2348 lib: 1303 flatpak: 0 
  No active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list 
  Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian-stable-updates.list 
  1: deb http://deb.debian.org/debian bullseye-updates main contrib non-free
  Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian.list 
  1: deb http://deb.debian.org/debian bullseye main contrib non-free
  2: deb http://security.debian.org/debian-security bullseye-security main contrib non-free
  Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/mx.list 
  1: deb http://mxrepo.com/mx/repo/ bullseye main non-free
  2: deb http://mxrepo.com/mx/repo/ bullseye ahs
Info:
  Processes: 181 Uptime: 1m wakeups: 3 Memory: 3.78 GiB 
  used: 897.6 MiB (23.2%) Init: SysVinit v: 2.96 runlevel: 5 default: 5 
  tool: systemctl Compilers: gcc: 10.2.1 alt: 10 Shell: bash 
  default: Bash v: 5.1.4 running-in: quick-system-info-mx inxi: 3.3.06 
Boot Mode: BIOS (legacy, CSM, MBR)

There is no /var/log/minstall.log to be found!
And when I

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sudo minstall

it opens the installer with that never ending flower spinning.

here is what

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 sudo minstall

is after 20 minutes of running.

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demo@mx1:~
$ sudo minstall
QStandardPaths: XDG_RUNTIME_DIR not set, defaulting to '/tmp/runtime-root'
Installer version: 22.4.01
<< void MInstall::startup() >>
Detect EFI: 0
Exec #1: du -scb /live/aufs/boot
Exit #1: 0 QProcess::NormalExit
Image size: 6645150720 true "/live/boot-dev/antiX/linuxfs.info"
Minimum space: 89583027 (boot), 6645150720 (root)
<< void MInstall::setupAutoMount(bool) >>
Bash #2: ps -e | grep 'udisksd'
SOut #2: "   5538 ?        00:00:01 udisksd\n"
Exit #2: 0 QProcess::NormalExit
Bash #3: egrep -l '^[^#].*mdadm (-I|--incremental)' /lib/udev/rules.d
SErr #3: "grep: /lib/udev/rules.d: Is a directory\n"
Exit #3: 2 QProcess::NormalExit
Bash #4: systemctl list-units --full --all -t mount --no-legend 2>/dev/null | grep -v masked | cut -f1 -d' ' | egrep -v '^(dev-hugepages|dev-mqueue|proc-sys-fs-binfmt_misc|run-user-.*-gvfs|sys-fs-fuse-connections|sys-kernel-config|sys-kernel-debug)'
Exit #4: 1 QProcess::NormalExit
MkPath(SUCCESS): "/run/udev/rules.d"
Bash #5: echo 'SUBSYSTEM=="block", ENV{UDISKS_IGNORE}="1"' > /run/udev/rules.d/91-mx-udisks-inhibit.rules
Exit #5: 0 QProcess::NormalExit
Exec #6: udevadm control --reload
Exit #6: 0 QProcess::NormalExit
Exec #7: udevadm trigger --subsystem-match=block
Exit #7: 0 QProcess::NormalExit
Exec #8: grub-probe -d /dev/sda2
Exit #8: 0 QProcess::NormalExit
Detect Mac: false
Exec #9: find -L /usr/share/zoneinfo/posix -mindepth 2 -type f -printf %P\n
Exit #9: 0 QProcess::NormalExit
Bash #10: locale -a | grep -Ev '^(C|POSIX)\.?' | grep -E 'utf8|UTF-8'
Exit #10: 0 QProcess::NormalExit
Bash #11: /bin/ls -1 /home | grep -Ev '^(lost\+found|demo|snapshot)$' | grep -q '[a-zA-Z0-9]'
Exit #11: 1 QProcess::NormalExit
check for possible snapshot: false
Bash #12: dpkg -s samba | grep '^Status.*ok.*' | sed -e 's/.*ok //'
Exit #12: 0 QProcess::NormalExit
Exec #13: lsblk -T -bJo TYPE,NAME,PATH,UUID,ROTA,DISC-GRAN,SIZE,PHY-SEC,PTTYPE,PARTTYPENAME,FSTYPE,LABEL,MODEL,PARTFLAGS
Exit #13: 0 QProcess::NormalExit
Exec #14: partprobe -s

So. I'll once again hit the power button on my PC and get on with things that need done.

[Huckleberry Finn]

If there's such an option in Bios: Change sata mode to Ahci (from Raid) save and exit. (also disable secure boot if there is)

(Before changing to Ahci in Bios: Open Regedit in Windows and make 2 simple changes to not make it unbootable)

Meanwhile: minstall.log will be there after you try/start installation, it's normal that there were nothing before it.

[MXwontInstall]

The bios on that old HP Compaq doesn’t have the option to sata to Ahci.

What format should the HDD I am trying to put MX on? Fat32, xfs, an ext?

[MXwontInstall]

What was in the partial miinstall above was KDE, I will put the whisker on the USB stick, and work from there.

[MXwontInstall]

Also, the /var/log/minstall was not there because for some reason the persistence wasn’t there to save it.

[dolphin_oracle]

is one of the drives a IDE drive?