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Posted: **Sat Aug 16, 2025 12:32 pm**

MX 23.5 XFCE

After reading a little about some of the changes MX has to make due to upcoming Debian Trixie release, some questions have come up.
These questions are a little dangerous because they are about trust and security.
I do not think that anyone can really know the answer without working for / being associated with the development of these applications.
So please just bare with me because I kind of know that there might not be an answer, but just some mentioning some hear say / observations.
I say this because for example SystemD is known to be a controversial topic so please try not to say anything that will cause this post to be locked.

First off, thank you to all the MX developers for your efforts in providing both a non-SystemD and a SystemD based distro.

I have not been using Linux as long as many users, but to me it does seem quite strange that one company, that has been bought out by another company, is slowly taking over piece by piece.
Nice that work has been done which benefits the community, but just wonder what happens once every piece has been taken over.

SYSTEMD
(Keep in mind that most of this is just hear say and vague, but just curious if any of it can be considered to be still be a concern)
Obviously SystemD has for the most part taken over most distros so this will not be a conversation like it was years ago, but something that always stood out was hearing people mention in the past that it could be more of a "backdoor".
Now that SystemD has been around for a while, is there anything actually within SystemD that could still be viewed like this? or was this just tension years ago about something taking over?

I once heard someone mention something about it producing "binaries" as opposed to text files which was a concern.

It was also said that because there are so many applications in the suite that it would not be as easy to review?

Again I do not think this really could be answered, I know that nothing is necessarily "safe" but just was wondering if there were still mentionings this, I have heard more about the issue of eliminating choice, then this.

DEBIAN 13 TRIXIE (XFCE)
Not good because while I already had the above on my mind, knowing that MX would be using Debian Trixie at some point, I decided to just quickly try actual Debian Trixie live just to see if any issues occurred on my machine. Worked fine but I noticed something that made me start to question some things.
In the past I had mentioned an application called "Redshift" which ended up being a topic of concern because everyone discovered that it uses something called "GeoClue" and were not happy with this.
When in Trixie, I randomly opened up "Session & Startup" and noticed that in the "Application Autostart" tab that by default, "GeoClue" is set by Debian to be running at startup?

To me this is really strange, guess it could be because of maybe the installer would try to setup timezone? but still does not seem like this should be.
Not that this is necessarily malicious, but I never really ever questioned Debian itself and it being "trustworthy"/"safe", most would hope that it is not because obviously it is connected to many distros.
Anyways, I was wondering if anyone knew why "GeoClue" is running by default?
Is it because of what I mentioned about the installer?
Do all installers use something like this?
To me this should not even be installed at all, but if so then it seems like it should be more of a choice rather then a default.
If anyone has any information to share about this please do so.

Again all of these topics just so happened to all come up at the same time so figured I would mention these questions.

Thank you to anyone who reads this

Posted: **Sat Aug 16, 2025 12:51 pm**

advice1010 wrote: Sat Aug 16, 2025 12:32 pmI do not think that anyone can really know the answer without working for / being associated with the development of these applications.

Sounds like you're about to ask questions that are best directed to the respective developer(s) or owner(s) of such software, rather than the MX forum.

advice1010 wrote: Sat Aug 16, 2025 12:32 pmSYSTEMD
(Keep in mind that most of this is just hear say and vague, but just curious if any of it can be considered to be still be a concern)
Obviously SystemD has for the most part taken over most distros so this will not be a conversation like it was years ago, but something that always stood out was hearing people mention in the past that it could be more of a "backdoor".
Now that SystemD has been around for a while, is there anything actually within SystemD that could still be viewed like this? or was this just tension years ago about something taking over?

Hearsay versus evidence, take your pick and run with it. I know which one I prefer. And as I often mention to those who are hell-bent on being able to choose between 20 different ways of starting your OS, have you seen the state of the Linux kernel? If there's any place for a backdoor, it would be that, and SysV init won't save you.
Not to dismiss perfectly valid concerns about systemd though, but the question you ought to be asking is, what problem do you aim to solve? In your case, probably some threat modeling would be useful.

advice1010 wrote: Sat Aug 16, 2025 12:32 pmI once heard someone mention something about it producing "binaries" as opposed to text files which was a concern.

It produces binary format logs, which have attracted some concern because of the format used for those files. The use of binary format for logs are not itself a concern and can actually be a massive advantage when dealing with large log files. Tthere are some claims about the log file not being append-based and requiring some data in the middle to be kept up to date which is not great for a log file. That said, freedesktop appears to refute that: https://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Softwa ... nal-files/

advice1010 wrote: Sat Aug 16, 2025 12:32 pmIt was also said that because there are so many applications in the suite that it would not be as easy to review?

While it is concerning that there are a lot of components that are part of the suite that ultimately replace other components, they are not hard dependencies of systemd init system. For example, you can even use systemd-boot without actually running systemd at all. The systemd project suffers from a naming disorder.

advice1010 wrote: Sat Aug 16, 2025 12:32 pmAgain I do not think this really could be answered, I know that nothing is necessarily "safe" but just was wondering if there were still mentionings this, I have heard more about the issue of eliminating choice, then this.

The problem with too much choice, is that you end up with analysis paralysis, and you end up with fragmentation. Nobody wants to develop apps for a severely fragmented ecosystem, and even amongst the professional-grade apps they rarely target anything other than Ubuntu or Debian as they have stable libraries. No surprise then you get more apps in these repositories.
For now, I would be thankful that at least you have the choice to not use a certain OS that demonstrably worse.

advice1010 wrote: Sat Aug 16, 2025 12:32 pmDEBIAN 13 TRIXIE
Not good because while I already had the above on my mind, knowing that MX would be using Debian Trixie at some point, I decided to just quickly try actual Debian Trixie live just to see if any issues occurred on my machine. Worked fine but I noticed something that made me start to question some things.
In the past I had mentioned an application called "Redshift" which ended up being a topic of concern because everyone discovered that it uses something called "GeoClue" and were not happy with this.
When in Trixie, I randomly opened up "Session & Startup" and noticed that in the "Application Autostart" tab that by default, "GeoClue" is set by Debian to be running at startup?

To me this is really strange, guess it could be because of maybe the installer would try to setup timezone? but still does not seem like this should be.
Not that this is necessarily malicious, but I never really ever questioned Debian itself and it being "trustworthy"/"safe", most would hope that it is not because obviously it is connected to many distros.
Anyways, I was wondering if anyone knew why "GeoClue" is running by default?
Is it because of what I mentioned about the installer?
Do all installers use something like this?

I recall geoclue is used for the DE to provide certain services, for example night shift colouring. The installer would be querying a web service for it to parse and determine your time zone based on that. Our installer currently doesn't have the ability to auto-detect a time zone.

advice1010 wrote: Sat Aug 16, 2025 12:32 pmTo me this should not even be installed at all, but if so then it seems like it should be more of a choice rather then a default.
If anyone has any information to share about this please do so.

You can always try uninstalling it and seeing what happens. You have the choice, after all.

Posted: **Sat Aug 16, 2025 4:41 pm**

advice1010 wrote: Sat Aug 16, 2025 12:32 pm MX 23.5 XFCE

After reading a little about some of the changes MX has to make due to upcoming Debian Trixie release, some questions have come up.
These questions are a little dangerous because they are about trust and security.
I do not think that anyone can really know the answer without working for / being associated with the development of these applications.
So please just bare with me because I kind of know that there might not be an answer, but just some mentioning some hear say / observations.
I say this because for example SystemD is known to be a controversial topic so please try not to say anything that will cause this post to be locked.

First off, thank you to all the MX developers for your efforts in providing both a non-SystemD and a SystemD based distro.

I have not been using Linux as long as many users, but to me it does seem quite strange that one company, that has been bought out by another company, is slowly taking over piece by piece.
Nice that work has been done which benefits the community, but just wonder what happens once every piece has been taken over.

SYSTEMD
(Keep in mind that most of this is just hear say and vague, but just curious if any of it can be considered to be still be a concern)
Obviously SystemD has for the most part taken over most distros so this will not be a conversation like it was years ago, but something that always stood out was hearing people mention in the past that it could be more of a "backdoor".
Now that SystemD has been around for a while, is there anything actually within SystemD that could still be viewed like this? or was this just tension years ago about something taking over?

I once heard someone mention something about it producing "binaries" as opposed to text files which was a concern.

It was also said that because there are so many applications in the suite that it would not be as easy to review?

Again I do not think this really could be answered, I know that nothing is necessarily "safe" but just was wondering if there were still mentionings this, I have heard more about the issue of eliminating choice, then this.

DEBIAN 13 TRIXIE
Not good because while I already had the above on my mind, knowing that MX would be using Debian Trixie at some point, I decided to just quickly try actual Debian Trixie live just to see if any issues occurred on my machine. Worked fine but I noticed something that made me start to question some things.
In the past I had mentioned an application called "Redshift" which ended up being a topic of concern because everyone discovered that it uses something called "GeoClue" and were not happy with this.
When in Trixie, I randomly opened up "Session & Startup" and noticed that in the "Application Autostart" tab that by default, "GeoClue" is set by Debian to be running at startup?

To me this is really strange, guess it could be because of maybe the installer would try to setup timezone? but still does not seem like this should be.
Not that this is necessarily malicious, but I never really ever questioned Debian itself and it being "trustworthy"/"safe", most would hope that it is not because obviously it is connected to many distros.
Anyways, I was wondering if anyone knew why "GeoClue" is running by default?
Is it because of what I mentioned about the installer?
Do all installers use something like this?
To me this should not even be installed at all, but if so then it seems like it should be more of a choice rather then a default.
If anyone has any information to share about this please do so.

Again all of these topics just so happened to all come up at the same time so figured I would mention these questions.

Thank you to anyone who reads this

Last thing I have seen on this forum the MX LINUX developers are developing different ISO's without systemD and with systemD for MX 25 unless you plan on using KDE Plasma which will give you no choice since KDE insists on using Wayland which requires systemD. Let us see how this plays out but from what I see MX LINUX developers are trying to give us all options.

Posted: **Sat Aug 16, 2025 7:50 pm**

advice1010 wrote: Sat Aug 16, 2025 12:32 pm When in Trixie, I randomly opened up "Session & Startup" and noticed that in the "Application Autostart" tab that by default, "GeoClue" is set by Debian to be running at startup?

I don't have geoclue running on my stock Deb13 XFCE installation.
Did you install redshift along with the recommended package geoclue?

Posted: **Sat Aug 16, 2025 10:22 pm**

siamhie wrote: Sat Aug 16, 2025 7:50 pm
advice1010 wrote: Sat Aug 16, 2025 12:32 pm When in Trixie, I randomly opened up "Session & Startup" and noticed that in the "Application Autostart" tab that by default, "GeoClue" is set by Debian to be running at startup?
I don't have geoclue running on my stock Deb13 XFCE installation.

I'm curious to know why OP is asking for Debian 13 support on an MX Linux forum.

Posted: **Sat Aug 16, 2025 11:32 pm**

DukeComposed wrote: Sat Aug 16, 2025 10:22 pm
siamhie wrote: Sat Aug 16, 2025 7:50 pm
advice1010 wrote: Sat Aug 16, 2025 12:32 pm When in Trixie, I randomly opened up "Session & Startup" and noticed that in the "Application Autostart" tab that by default, "GeoClue" is set by Debian to be running at startup?
I don't have geoclue running on my stock Deb13 XFCE installation.
I'm curious to know why OP is asking for Debian 13 support on an MX Linux forum.

I don't think it's for support as it's more of random thoughts regarding the upcoming MX release and what Deb 13 has put out. I could be wrong.

Posted: **Sat Aug 16, 2025 11:54 pm**

siamhie wrote: Sat Aug 16, 2025 11:32 pm I don't think it's for support as it's more of random thoughts regarding the upcoming MX release and what Deb 13 has put out. I could be wrong.

This started with a 674-word post that only mentions MX three times, none of them relevant. It entirely boils down to "systemd, what's up with that?" and then some Trixie complaints, as you've answered, about some of its configurations.

Posted: **Sun Aug 17, 2025 10:27 am**

Mauser wrote: Sat Aug 16, 2025 4:41 pm ... will give you no choice since KDE insists on using Wayland which requires systemD.

Just to point out that Wayland does not require systemd.

Posted: **Sun Aug 17, 2025 10:40 am**

Will XFCE with AHS have the option of systemD or be sysVinit in MX 25?

Posted: **Sun Aug 17, 2025 10:58 am**

beardedragon wrote: Sun Aug 17, 2025 10:40 am Will XFCE with AHS have the option of systemD or be sysVinit in MX 25?

Check out the blog if you haven't already.

Changes coming with MX 25

Posted: **Sun Aug 17, 2025 11:38 am**

siamhie wrote: Sun Aug 17, 2025 10:58 am
beardedragon wrote: Sun Aug 17, 2025 10:40 am Will XFCE with AHS have the option of systemD or be sysVinit in MX 25?
Check out the blog if you haven't already.

Changes coming with MX 25

"Official releases for Fluxbox and Xfce will have separate isos featuring systemd and sysVinit respectively. At this time, the KDE iso will ship with systemd only."

So in fact, maybe it is the time to have KDE as the defaut MX version instead XFCE for MX25 ?.

which DE most MX developpers use today (probably KDE ?) ?

Posted: **Fri Aug 29, 2025 5:43 pm**

Ahh where to begin

@AK-47
Thank you for your response.
I am concerned about the kernel as well but that is an even higher level then the init system and not much choice.
Unless.... does anyone know if it is possible to use Linux without using the Linux Kernel?.... :)
MX Team let's get to work on this ASAP!

True in certain cases it is nice to have one standard option, but it depends who is providing that option.

Geoclue
In this case Geoclue appears to be installed and running by default. I do not think Nightshift comes bundled in Debian. I know what it does, the question is why would it be installed/autostarted by default without letting users know?

I noticed that other users as well as yourself seem to be questioning why I would be making this post here. So you guys think that I should ask these big companies for answers about what they could be doing in secret?
I have some insulting things I would like to say to other users as well as yourself about this but you look like you are in pretty good shape so I am just going to keep my mouth shut :)
Thanks again

@Mauser
I am not sure the reason for quoting my entire thread post for this statement, but thank you for your post. Yes this is one of the things that made me start to question this more/making this post.

@siamhie
No, no Nightshift, I just downloaded the XFCE live version and while running in a default live session, I opened the "Session & Startup" and noticed that in the "Application Autostart" it is on the list, checked "on" to autostart.
You did not experience this? that is strange.
Also thank you for being able to understand the point of my post and for clarifying it for other users, your statement was not wrong.
I did see that changes post thank you, that was one of the main reasons for making this post :)

I did not see this because running live but I have seen a couple users elsewhere mention concerns with something called Debian "popularity-contest". They said user is asked to opt in, so it is not "on" by default. I am sure it is probably helpful to Debian but again would rather not have stuff like this included.
Not sure if this is installed/part of Debian by default? Or is it IF you opt in, that then it installs this in a separate package?
That would be more understandable if it is done this way, installed only if opt in.
If you or anyone knows, please mention it.

@anticapitalista
Thank you for your post.
Edit:
I removed what I mentioned here because I did not realize your reply was for a different users comment.
I made a reply below because now I know what you mean.

Posted: **Fri Aug 29, 2025 6:17 pm**

advice1010 wrote: Fri Aug 29, 2025 5:43 pm
Geoclue
In this case Geoclue appears to be installed and running by default. I do not think Nightshift comes bundled in Debian. I know what it does, the question is why would it be installed/autostarted by default without letting users know?

@siamhie
No, no Nightshift, I just downloaded the XFCE live version and while running in a default live session, I opened the "Session & Startup" and noticed that in the "Application Autostart" it is on the list, checked "on" to autostart.
You did not experience this? that is strange.
Also thank you for being able to understand the point of my post and for clarifying it for other users, your statement was not wrong.
I did see that changes post thank you, that was one of the main reasons for making this post :)

I did not see this because running live but I have seen a couple users elsewhere mention concerns with something called Debian "popularity-contest". They said user is asked to opt in, so it is not "on" by default. I am sure it is probably helpful to Debian but again would rather not have stuff like this included.
Not sure if this is installed/part of Debian by default? Or is it IF you opt in, that then it installs this in a separate package?
That would be more understandable if it is done this way, installed only if opt in.
If you or anyone knows, please mention it.

@advice1010
I downloaded and booted up the Deb13 XFCE live ISO and it does have the Geoclue Demo agent listed in autostart.

The Geoclue program is installed on the live ISO.

As I mentioned in my other post (#4), Geoclue was not installed from the DVD ISO I grabbed from Debian's site and I double checked synaptic and don't see it installed either.
It must be a live ISO thing.

Posted: **Fri Aug 29, 2025 6:25 pm**

advice1010 wrote: Fri Aug 29, 2025 5:43 pm I am concerned about the kernel as well but that is an even higher level then the init system and not much choice.
Unless.... does anyone know if it is possible to use Linux without using the Linux Kernel?.... :)

https://www.debian.org/ports/kfreebsd-gnu/

advice1010 wrote: Fri Aug 29, 2025 5:43 pm I noticed that other users as well as yourself seem to be questioning why I would be making this post here. So you guys think that I should ask these big companies for answers about what they could be doing in secret?
I have some insulting things I would like to say to other users as well as yourself about this but you look like you are in pretty good shape so I am just going to keep my mouth shut :)

This isn't the first time you've asked people questions about software they don't own and then balked at the notion of asking the right people with the right scope purely due to a misguided privacy concern that, frankly, sounds downright paranoid. "Google owns Chrome, therefore I will not trust Google and shall ask my Chromium questions here." "Debian uses systemd, therefore I will not trust Debian and shall ask my Trixie questions here." You realize how nuts that sounds, right?

It's about as realistic a choice as deciding to call Debian a big company.

It's one thing to mistrust proprietary software. I get it. You download Windows or OSX, you have no way of knowing what it's doing in the background.

Meanwhile, every Debian package comes with a source package. You could build Debian, or any other Linux distro, from the source code if you preferred. A few distros can only be installed from source, and some others offer binaries but still place a strong emphasis on compiling optimized packages directly from the code for your exact architecture.

The code is out there. You can download it. You can inspect it. You can run your tests on it. And if you find something you don't like, you can go point it out to the maintainer and let other folks know what you found. I promise you someone unaffiliated with the Debian project will be around to look at it and say either "that doesn't look right" or "no, that's a benign DNS lookup" or whatever. Debian does not care about secret surveillance tools and beaming your thoughts back to the mothership. Neither does Google, for that matter.

If you don't trust the software, don't use it. If you're going to use it and you have concerns -- legitimate concerns -- about its safety or security, take it up with the people who have the experience, interest, and ability to do something about it. This forum is about MX Linux. MX Linux doesn't run on Trixie yet. Some day it will. Until then, this thread is off-topic and you're clearly unhappy about sharing your issues with the people best qualified to address them. That won't improve anything. It's just standing around the watering hole griping at anyone willing to listen to you.

You have insulting things you want to say? Go ahead and say them. Somewhere else, please. We're trying to enjoy MX Linux over here.

Posted: **Fri Aug 29, 2025 6:49 pm**

beardedragon wrote: Sun Aug 17, 2025 10:40 am Will XFCE with AHS have the option of systemD or be sysVinit in MX 25?

A stock Xfce installation can be made into AHS by enabling the MX own AHS repo in MX Repo Manager. After that, a full update will pull in the AHS bits.

This PC has a less than a week-old Xfce standard edition install that was updated less than an hour ago. After enabling AHS, a new update has 64 total items (53 upgraded, 11 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.), 409 Mb total.

Posted: **Fri Aug 29, 2025 7:15 pm**

No need for this post... anyone with qualms about sysD should select an MX25 iso based on sysV

Posted: **Sat Sep 13, 2025 6:55 pm**

Hmm, no moderators

@anticapitalista
I removed my reply to your post above because I did not realize you were responding to another users comment.
"Just to point out that Wayland does not require systemd."
I think I understand what you meant now that I could see quotes, which were not registering at the time.
It is not that Wayland eliminates the need for SystemD, it is that Wayland (at this time) does not require SystemD specifically to function, but an init system is still required.

@siamhie
I understand, so many different versions of Debian can get confusing :)
So, at least to me, still strange that GeoClue is being used automatically, if they do not already, they probably should at least mention this on their website so users would be aware, if they are not interested in using it.
Anyways, at least it is not something that is needed to be used in all their releases.
Thank you again for sharing this information, most valuable part of this experience so far.

@AA BB
Thanks for the great reply but I would like to be able to question and try to understand things if possible, so I do feel there is a need for this post.

If anyone has any more information to share about the questions asked please let me know.
Thank You

Posted: **Sat Sep 13, 2025 7:35 pm**

anticapitalista wrote: Sun Aug 17, 2025 10:27 am
Mauser wrote: Sat Aug 16, 2025 4:41 pm ... will give you no choice since KDE insists on using Wayland which requires systemD.
Just to point out that Wayland does not require systemd.

Cool.

Now we have just to find some light WM wayland candidates to replace the X11 IceWM into antiX.

Do you already have some idéas ?

Posted: **Sat Sep 13, 2025 8:02 pm**

advice1010 wrote: Sat Sep 13, 2025 6:55 pm @siamhie
I understand, so many different versions of Debian can get confusing :)
So, at least to me, still strange that GeoClue is being used automatically, if they do not already, they probably should at least mention this on their website so users would be aware, if they are not interested in using it.
Anyways, at least it is not something that is needed to be used in all their releases.
Thank you again for sharing this information, most valuable part of this experience so far.

As I pointed out already, the Debian 13 XFCE live ISO has GeoClue installed and running but the installed Debian 13 XFCE ISO doesn't have GeoClue installed.

Posted: **Sat Sep 13, 2025 11:27 pm**

FreeBSD has KDE Plasma 6 on Wayland working, so it is pretty safe to say that it is not Plasma 6 or Wayland that is requiring systemd.

OpenBSD also has Plasma 6, but I have not seen whether they have Wayland.

Posted: **Sun Sep 14, 2025 1:46 am**

oops wrote: Sat Sep 13, 2025 7:35 pmCool.

Now we have just to find some light WM wayland candidates to replace the X11 IceWM into antiX.

Do you already have some idéas ?

Perhaps labwc? https://github.com/labwc/labwc

Posted: **Sun Sep 14, 2025 6:55 am**

@AK-47 ... Ah yes, labwc look like icewm ... what I particularly like into the light X11 IceWm, is the menu and the toolbar, prefoverride, startup files way to do the thinks in a easy , customized and efficient way. ( labwc is inspired from the Openbox 3.6 specification for theme and menu)

Posted: **Tue Sep 16, 2025 3:13 pm**

@siamhie
No as mentioned "I understand" sorry that might not have been clear how I typed this.
I meant that I understand what you meant about the DVD ISO not having this, the comment was just still finding the Live ISO containing this to be strange. However turns out the DVD ISO does contain some libraries though. If you can, please let me know if you see these on your system.

Just thought I would mention this just in case you or anyone else is interested about the GeoClue topic.
(Keep in mind I have no idea if this is even an issue or not, I do not know anything about these libraries just trying to share some information just in case)
I was looking into what comes with the DVD ISO
You are correct, it does not say that it comes with GeoClue/have it loading at startup.
However, I noticed that it says it has the following 3 items installed
libgeoclue-2-0
libgeocode-glib-2-0
geocode-glib-common

XFCE version does not appear to be bundled with many applications and generally they appear to be standard/commonly known applications, so I do not think it is required for any of these applications, but might be something for Debian itself similar to the Live ISO has.
Again just sharing some information to inform Debian users who may be unaware, just in case they do not want this information shared without their permission.
GeoClue at startup on the Live ISO obviously might be more of the concern then the libraries, but again I do not know how these libraries are even being used.
Again if some users were upset about Nightshift using this, then maybe these users might find this information I am sharing valuable if they should happen to see this.

Hope this will be helpful to someone
If anyone has any more information about either subject, please let me know.
Thank You

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