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impossible to drag objects using touchpad

Posted: Sun Jul 20, 2025 11:24 pm
by philipusizyx
I recently bought an Acer Nitro 5 laptop, and unfortunately, it is impossible to drag objects using the touchpad—it may be mechanically damaged. It can only select a word or sentence by clicking, paste from the clipboard, and scroll through text. Is it possible to configure hotkeys for dragging objects in the Xfce environment?

Re: impossible to drag objects using touchpad

Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2025 12:11 am
by CharlesV
Please post your QSI. ( MX Menu, Quick System Info, Copy for Forum, Paste here )

Re: impossible to drag objects using touchpad

Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2025 1:41 am
by philipusizyx
what you mean "MX Menu" - screenshot of my MX Menu? Maybe enough only output of inxi command?

Re: impossible to drag objects using touchpad

Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2025 2:00 am
by Eadwine Rose
You know where you can see all the programs? That is the menu button. And no, only a bit of inxi is not enough.


IF you want that, post

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inxi -Fxxxrza
In code tags, NOT as plain text.

Like so: [code]code output here[/code]

Re: impossible to drag objects using touchpad

Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2025 3:58 am
by philipusizyx

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System:
  Kernel: 6.1.0-37-amd64 [6.1.140-1] arch: x86_64 bits: 64 compiler: gcc v: 12.2.0
    parameters: BOOT_IMAGE=/boot/vmlinuz-6.1.0-37-amd64 root=UUID=<filter> ro quiet splash
    resume=UUID=<filter> resume_offset=794624 init=/lib/systemd/systemd
  Desktop: Xfce v: 4.20.0 tk: Gtk v: 3.24.38 info: xfce4-panel wm: xfwm v: 4.20.0 vt: 7
    dm: LightDM v: 1.32.0 Distro: MX-23.6_x64 Libretto April 13  2025 base: Debian GNU/Linux 12
    (bookworm)
Machine:
  Type: Laptop System: Acer product: Nitro AN515-42 v: V1.18 serial: <superuser required>
  Mobo: RR model: Freed_RRS v: V1.18 serial: <superuser required> UEFI: Insyde v: 1.18
    date: 06/18/2020
Battery:
  ID-1: BAT1 charge: 23.9 Wh (76.4%) condition: 31.3/48.9 Wh (63.9%) volts: 15.0 min: 15.2
    model: LG 0x41,0x43,0x31,0x34,0x42,0x38,0 type: Li-ion serial: <filter> status: discharging
CPU:
  Info: model: AMD Ryzen 5 2500U with Radeon Vega Mobile Gfx bits: 64 type: MT MCP arch: Zen
    level: v3 note: check built: 2017-19 process: GF 14nm family: 0x17 (23) model-id: 0x11 (17)
    stepping: 0 microcode: 0x810100B
  Topology: cpus: 1x cores: 4 tpc: 2 threads: 8 smt: enabled cache: L1: 384 KiB
    desc: d-4x32 KiB; i-4x64 KiB L2: 2 MiB desc: 4x512 KiB L3: 4 MiB desc: 1x4 MiB
  Speed (MHz): avg: 1495 high: 1600 min/max: 1600/2000 boost: disabled scaling:
    driver: acpi-cpufreq governor: ondemand cores: 1: 1505 2: 1495 3: 1486 4: 1368 5: 1368 6: 1600
    7: 1596 8: 1549 bogomips: 31938
  Flags: avx avx2 ht lm nx pae sse sse2 sse3 sse4_1 sse4_2 sse4a ssse3 svm
  Vulnerabilities:
  Type: gather_data_sampling status: Not affected
  Type: indirect_target_selection status: Not affected
  Type: itlb_multihit status: Not affected
  Type: l1tf status: Not affected
  Type: mds status: Not affected
  Type: meltdown status: Not affected
  Type: mmio_stale_data status: Not affected
  Type: reg_file_data_sampling status: Not affected
  Type: retbleed mitigation: untrained return thunk; SMT vulnerable
  Type: spec_rstack_overflow mitigation: safe RET
  Type: spec_store_bypass mitigation: Speculative Store Bypass disabled via prctl
  Type: spectre_v1 mitigation: usercopy/swapgs barriers and __user pointer sanitization
  Type: spectre_v2 mitigation: Retpolines; IBPB: conditional; STIBP: disabled; RSB filling;
    PBRSB-eIBRS: Not affected; BHI: Not affected
  Type: srbds status: Not affected
  Type: tsx_async_abort status: Not affected
Graphics:
  Device-1: AMD Baffin [Radeon RX 460/560D / Pro 450/455/460/555/555X/560/560X]
    vendor: Acer Incorporated ALI driver: amdgpu v: kernel arch: GCN-4 code: Arctic Islands
    process: GF 14nm built: 2016-20 pcie: gen: 1 speed: 2.5 GT/s lanes: 8 link-max: gen: 3
    speed: 8 GT/s bus-ID: 01:00.0 chip-ID: 1002:67ef class-ID: 0380 temp: 37.0 C
  Device-2: AMD Raven Ridge [Radeon Vega Series / Radeon Mobile Series]
    vendor: Acer Incorporated ALI driver: amdgpu v: kernel arch: GCN-5 code: Vega process: GF 14nm
    built: 2017-20 pcie: gen: 3 speed: 8 GT/s lanes: 16 ports: active: eDP-1 empty: HDMI-A-1
    bus-ID: 04:00.0 chip-ID: 1002:15dd class-ID: 0300 temp: 39.0 C
  Device-3: Quanta HD Webcam type: USB driver: uvcvideo bus-ID: 3-1:2 chip-ID: 0408:a060
    class-ID: 0e02 serial: <filter>
  Display: x11 server: X.Org v: 1.21.1.7 compositor: xfwm v: 4.20.0 driver: X: loaded: amdgpu
    unloaded: fbdev,modesetting,vesa dri: radeonsi gpu: amdgpu display-ID: :0.0 screens: 1
  Screen-1: 0 s-res: 1920x1080 s-dpi: 96 s-size: 509x286mm (20.04x11.26") s-diag: 584mm (22.99")
  Monitor-1: eDP-1 mapped: eDP model: Najing CEC Panda LM156LF1L03 built: 2017 res: 1920x1080
    hz: 60 dpi: 142 gamma: 1.2 size: 344x194mm (13.54x7.64") diag: 395mm (15.5") ratio: 16:9 modes:
    max: 1920x1080 min: 640x480
  API: OpenGL v: 4.6 Mesa 22.3.6 renderer: AMD Radeon Vega 8 Graphics (raven LLVM 15.0.6 DRM
    3.49 6.1.0-37-amd64) direct-render: Yes
Audio:
  Device-1: AMD Raven/Raven2/Fenghuang HDMI/DP Audio vendor: Acer Incorporated ALI
    driver: snd_hda_intel v: kernel pcie: gen: 3 speed: 8 GT/s lanes: 16 bus-ID: 04:00.1
    chip-ID: 1002:15de class-ID: 0403
  Device-2: AMD Family 17h/19h HD Audio vendor: Acer Incorporated ALI driver: snd_hda_intel
    v: kernel pcie: gen: 3 speed: 8 GT/s lanes: 16 bus-ID: 04:00.6 chip-ID: 1022:15e3 class-ID: 0403
  API: ALSA v: k6.1.0-37-amd64 status: kernel-api tools: alsamixer,amixer
  Server-1: PipeWire v: 1.0.0 status: active with: 1: pipewire-pulse status: active
    2: wireplumber status: active tools: pw-cat,pw-cli,wpctl
  Server-2: PulseAudio v: 16.1 status: off (using pipewire-pulse) tools: pacat,pactl,pavucontrol
Network:
  Device-1: Realtek RTL8111/8168/8411 PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet vendor: Acer Incorporated ALI
    driver: r8169 v: kernel pcie: gen: 1 speed: 2.5 GT/s lanes: 1 port: 2000 bus-ID: 02:00.1
    chip-ID: 10ec:8168 class-ID: 0200
  IF: eth0 state: down mac: <filter>
  Device-2: Qualcomm Atheros QCA6174 802.11ac Wireless Network Adapter vendor: Lite-On
    driver: ath10k_pci v: kernel modules: wl pcie: gen: 1 speed: 2.5 GT/s lanes: 1 bus-ID: 03:00.0
    chip-ID: 168c:003e class-ID: 0280 temp: 42.0 C
  IF: wlan0 state: up mac: <filter>
  IF-ID-1: vmnet1 state: unknown speed: N/A duplex: N/A mac: <filter>
  IF-ID-2: vmnet8 state: unknown speed: N/A duplex: N/A mac: <filter>
Bluetooth:
  Device-1: Lite-On type: USB driver: btusb v: 0.8 bus-ID: 1-4:2 chip-ID: 04ca:3016 class-ID: e001
  Report: hciconfig ID: hci0 rfk-id: 11 state: down bt-service: enabled,running rfk-block:
    hardware: no software: yes address: <filter>
  Info: acl-mtu: 1024:8 sco-mtu: 50:8 link-policy: rswitch hold sniff
    link-mode: peripheral accept
Drives:
  Local Storage: total: 931.51 GiB used: 37.6 GiB (4.0%)
  SMART Message: Unable to run smartctl. Root privileges required.
  ID-1: /dev/sda maj-min: 8:0 vendor: Western Digital model: WD10SPZX-21Z10T0 size: 931.51 GiB
    block-size: physical: 4096 B logical: 512 B speed: 6.0 Gb/s type: HDD rpm: 5400 serial: <filter>
    rev: 1A02 scheme: GPT
Partition:
  ID-1: / raw-size: 931.26 GiB size: 915.57 GiB (98.31%) used: 37.6 GiB (4.1%) fs: ext4
    dev: /dev/sda2 maj-min: 8:2
  ID-2: /boot/efi raw-size: 256 MiB size: 252 MiB (98.46%) used: 274 KiB (0.1%) fs: vfat
    dev: /dev/sda1 maj-min: 8:1
Swap:
  Kernel: swappiness: 15 (default 60) cache-pressure: 100 (default)
  ID-1: swap-1 type: file size: 9.67 GiB used: 730.5 MiB (7.4%) priority: -2 file: /swap/swap
Sensors:
  System Temperatures: cpu: 39.8 C mobo: N/A
  Fan Speeds (RPM): N/A
  GPU: device: amdgpu temp: 39.0 C device: amdgpu temp: 36.0 C watts: 6.00
Repos:
  Packages: pm: dpkg pkgs: 2667 libs: 1342 tools: apt,apt-get,aptitude,nala,synaptic pm: rpm
    pkgs: 0 pm: flatpak pkgs: 0
  No active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list
  Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian-stable-updates.list
    1: deb http://deb.debian.org/debian bookworm-updates main contrib non-free non-free-firmware
  Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian.list
    1: deb http://deb.debian.org/debian bookworm main contrib non-free non-free-firmware
    2: deb http://security.debian.org/debian-security bookworm-security main contrib non-free non-free-firmware
  Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/google-chrome.list
    1: deb [arch=amd64] https://dl.google.com/linux/chrome/deb/ stable main
  Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/mx.list
    1: deb https://mxrepo.com/mx/repo/ bookworm main non-free
  No active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/mxtemp.list
  Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/pritunl.list
    1: deb [arch=amd64 signed-by=/usr/share/keyrings/pritunl.gpg] https://repo.pritunl.com/stable/apt bookworm main
  Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/slack.list
    1: deb [signed-by=/etc/apt/keyrings/slacktechnologies_slack-archive-keyring.gpg] https://packagecloud.io/slacktechnologies/slack/debian jessie main
  Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/softmaker.list
    1: deb http://shop.softmaker.com/repo/apt stable non-free
  Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/spotify.list
    1: deb https://repository.spotify.com stable non-free
  Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/syncthing.list
    1: deb https://apt.syncthing.net/ syncthing stable
  Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/teamviewer.list
    1: deb [signed-by=/usr/share/keyrings/teamviewer-keyring.gpg] https://linux.teamviewer.com/deb stable main
  Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/vivaldi.list
    1: deb [arch=amd64] https://repo.vivaldi.com/stable/deb/ stable main
  Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/vscodium.list
    1: deb [arch=amd64,arm64 signed-by=/usr/share/keyrings/vscodium-archive-keyring.gpg ] https://paulcarroty.gitlab.io/vscodium-deb-rpm-repo/debs vscodium main
  Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/extrepo_librewolf.sources
    1: deb [arch=amd64 arm64] https://repo.librewolf.net librewolf main
  Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/sublime-text.sources
    1: deb https://download.sublimetext.com/ apt/stable/
  Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/teams-for-linux-packages.sources
    1: deb [arch=amd64] https://repo.teamsforlinux.de/debian/ stable main
Info:
  Processes: 357 Uptime: 2d 23h 5m wakeups: 19 Memory: 6.67 GiB used: 5.3 GiB (79.5%) Init: systemd
  v: 252 target: graphical (5) default: graphical tool: systemctl Compilers: gcc: 12.2.0 alt: 12
  Client: shell wrapper v: 5.2.15-release inxi: 3.3.26
Boot Mode: UEFI

Re: impossible to drag objects using touchpad

Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2025 10:29 am
by CharlesV
In the MX Menu, open Mouse and Touchpad

On the Devices tab
- select your touchpad

On the Behavior tab make sure that
- Drag and Drop Threshold is set to something like 8 or 10
- Distance is set to around 5

Re: impossible to drag objects using touchpad

Posted: Tue Jul 22, 2025 12:15 am
by philipusizyx
Thank you for advice but it didn't help me.

Re: impossible to drag objects using touchpad

Posted: Tue Jul 22, 2025 1:02 am
by CharlesV
If you open any app, say Featherpad, put the cursor over the window title bar, and then click and and hold down on the window title bar, does the cursor turn into a hand?
( this takes approx 1 second on mine, might take 2 on yours.)

If it does, then can you drag then?

Edit: for better clarification.

Re: impossible to drag objects using touchpad

Posted: Tue Jul 22, 2025 9:35 am
by philipusizyx
After click and hold down on the Featherpad window title bar nothing happened, I still can't drag (cursor don't turn into a hand).

Re: impossible to drag objects using touchpad

Posted: Tue Jul 22, 2025 11:02 am
by CharlesV
Hmm... try creating a new user, then log in as that user and see if this persists.

If the new user is able to drag windows around, (ctrl+click hold and drag on a window title bar) then the issue is in your xfce configuration. Possibly something like:
- ~/.cache/xsessions
- a key map

Re: impossible to drag objects using touchpad

Posted: Sun Jul 27, 2025 12:01 pm
by philipusizyx
I created a new user, then log in as you mentioned but unfortunately still not possible drag windows around. (even with CTRL+click hold). Maybe something wrong with driver for touchpad? I tried both kernel versions: Liquorix and

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Linux te 6.1.0-37-amd64 #1 SMP PREEMPT_DYNAMIC Debian 6.1.140-1 (2025-05-22) x86_64 GNU/Linux
and my all current firmware - related deb-packages are:

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$ dpkg -l | grep firmware
ii  amd64-microcode                             3.20240820.1~deb12u1                   amd64        Platform firmware and microcode for AMD CPUs and SoCs
ii  atmel-firmware                              1.3-7                                  all          Firmware for Atmel at76c50x wireless networking chips.
ii  b43-fwcutter                                1:019-14~mx23+1                        amd64        utility for extracting Broadcom 43xx firmware
ii  bluez-firmware                              1.2-9                                  all          Firmware for Bluetooth devices
ii  firmware-amd-graphics                       20230210-5                             all          Binary firmware for AMD/ATI graphics chips
ii  firmware-ath9k-htc                          1.4.0-108-gd856466+dfsg1-1.3+deb12u1   all          firmware for AR7010 and AR9271 USB wireless adapters
ii  firmware-atheros                            20230210-5                             all          Binary firmware for Qualcomm Atheros wireless cards
ii  firmware-b43-installer                      1:019-14~mx23+1                        all          firmware installer for the b43 driver
ii  firmware-b43legacy-installer                1:019-14~mx23+1                        all          firmware installer for the b43legacy driver
ii  firmware-bnx2                               20230210-5                             all          Binary firmware for Broadcom NetXtremeII
ii  firmware-bnx2x                              20230210-5                             all          Binary firmware for Broadcom NetXtreme II 10Gb
ii  firmware-brcm80211                          20230210-5                             all          Binary firmware for Broadcom/Cypress 802.11 wireless cards
ii  firmware-intel-sound                        20230210-5                             all          Binary firmware for Intel sound DSPs
ii  firmware-ipw2x00                            20230210-5                             all          Binary firmware for Intel Pro Wireless 2100, 2200 and 2915
ii  firmware-iwlwifi                            20230210-5                             all          Binary firmware for Intel Wireless cards
ii  firmware-libertas                           20230210-5                             all          Binary firmware for Marvell wireless cards
ii  firmware-linux                              20230210-5                             all          Binary firmware for various drivers in the Linux kernel (metapackage)
ii  firmware-linux-free                         20200122-1                             all          Binary firmware for various drivers in the Linux kernel
ii  firmware-linux-nonfree                      20230210-5                             all          Binary firmware for various drivers in the Linux kernel (metapackage)
ii  firmware-misc-nonfree                       20230210-5                             all          Binary firmware for various drivers in the Linux kernel
ii  firmware-myricom                            20230210-5                             all          Binary firmware for Myri-10G Ethernet adapters
ii  firmware-netxen                             20230210-5                             all          Binary firmware for QLogic Intelligent Ethernet (3000 and 3100 Series)
ii  firmware-qlogic                             20230210-5                             all          Binary firmware for QLogic HBAs
ii  firmware-realtek                            20230210-5                             all          Binary firmware for Realtek wired/wifi/BT adapters
ii  firmware-sof-signed                         2.2.4-1                                all          Intel SOF firmware - signed
ii  firmware-zd1211                             1:1.5-10                               all          binary firmware for the zd1211rw wireless driver
ii  intel-microcode                             3.20250512.1~deb12u1                   amd64        Processor microcode firmware for Intel CPUs
ii  mx-debian-firmware                          23.03.01mx23                           all          metapackage that depends on Debian firmware shipped with MX Linux

Re: impossible to drag objects using touchpad

Posted: Sun Jul 27, 2025 12:19 pm
by philipusizyx
btw in drop-down menu in MX Settings=> mouse and touchpad both devices are:

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ELAN0504:01 04F3:3091 Touchpad
ELAN0504:01 04F3:3091 Mouse

Re: impossible to drag objects using touchpad

Posted: Sun Jul 27, 2025 5:34 pm
by CharlesV
Your firmware is quite old ( 2023 in many cases) and while your machine *should* be covered in all that, many times there are updates that help smooth out wrinkles in some machines.

I would suggest doing a timeshift on your machine (so you can restore if needed.) and then I would add the AHS repo to get later firmware. (It is not THE latest, but it is very close.) You can use MX Repo Manager, go to the Individual Sources tab, then down the list on the left until you get to mx.list. then on the right, check the last one in the mx List ( and in ahs )

Apply, then close. and then do a sudo apt update. You should see a bunch of things added to the list to update, and go ahead and update those things.

Two other things to try here:
1) Plug in a mouse and see if you get drag and drop using that, and
2) Create a liveUSB of mx23.6 (or the flavor your currently running ) and then boot with that see if you have rag and Drop there.

Re: impossible to drag objects using touchpad

Posted: Mon Jul 28, 2025 2:12 am
by BitterTruth
I've noticed that there's some NEW experimental options in mouse and touchpad Now that get enabled by default. They've given me similar trouble to yours on old thinkpads until I spotted and unticked them. A couple of times they enabled themselves after I'd disabled them.