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No more ahs Liquorix kernel?
Posted: Sat Jul 12, 2025 3:50 pm
by BV206
It looks to me like there is no longer the current Liquorix kernel in the ahs repo.
The last two MX blog posts show the ahs kernel as 6.12. I think that is from Debian backports.
What happened?
Re: No more ahs Liquorix kernel?
Posted: Sat Jul 12, 2025 4:43 pm
by CharlesV
Might be something with your repo, I see what looks like the full list.
Re: No more ahs Liquorix kernel?
Posted: Sat Jul 12, 2025 4:51 pm
by Eadwine Rose
Post your QSI so we can see what's up.
Re: No more ahs Liquorix kernel?
Posted: Sat Jul 12, 2025 5:25 pm
by BV206
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Snapshot created on: 20250104_0855
Kernel: 6.12.35+1-amd64 arch: x86_64 bits: 64 compiler: N/A
parameters: BOOT_IMAGE=/vmlinuz-6.12.35+1-amd64 root=UUID=<filter> ro
Desktop: Xfce v: 4.20.0 tk: Gtk v: 3.24.38 info: xfce4-panel wm: xfwm v: 4.20.0 vt: 7
dm: LightDM v: 1.32.0 Distro: MX-23.6_x64 Libretto October 15 2024 base: Debian GNU/Linux 12
(bookworm)
Repos:
Packages: pm: dpkg pkgs: 2469 libs: 1301 tools: apt,apt-get,aptitude,nala,synaptic pm: rpm
pkgs: 0 pm: flatpak pkgs: 0
No active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list
Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/brave-browser-release.list
1: deb [arch=amd64 signed-by=/usr/share/keyrings/brave-browser-archive-keyring.gpg] https://brave-browser-apt-release.s3.brave.com/ stable main
Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian-stable-updates.list
1: deb https://deb.debian.org/debian/ bookworm-updates main contrib non-free non-free-firmware
Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian.list
1: deb https://deb.debian.org/debian/ bookworm main contrib non-free non-free-firmware
2: deb https://security.debian.org/debian-security/ bookworm-security main contrib non-free non-free-firmware
Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/google-earth-pro.list
1: deb [arch=amd64] http://dl.google.com/linux/earth/deb/ stable main
Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/mx.list
1: deb https://mxrepo.com/mx/repo/ bookworm main non-free
2: deb https://mxrepo.com/mx/repo/ bookworm ahs
Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/winehq-bookworm.sources
1: deb [arch=amd64 i386] https://dl.winehq.org/wine-builds/debian bookworm main
I don't have a Liquorix kernel installed.
It's not a repo problem.
The latest liquorix kernel I see is Package: linux-image-6.14.10-2-liquorix-amd64 Version: 6.14-13~mx23ahs which is probably over 3 months old. It should be on 6.15 by now.
Let me ask this another way. Did MX quit using liquorix and start using a later Debian kernel for ahs?
Also the liqorix kernel meta-apackages are
Package: linux-headers-liquorix-amd64 Version: 6.14-13~mx23ahs
Package: linux-image-liquorix-amd64 Version: 6.14-13~mx23ahs
Re: No more ahs Liquorix kernel? [Solved]
Posted: Sat Jul 12, 2025 5:50 pm
by dolphin_oracle
we have a liquorix 6.15 in our ahs-staging repo, but the nvidia drivers (535 or 550) do not build on it.
since the ahs releases use the liquorix kernel by default, we didn't want to push it out automatically and break people's systems.
Re: No more ahs Liquorix kernel?
Posted: Sat Jul 12, 2025 7:25 pm
by beardedragon
Mine is:
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System:
Kernel: 6.15.2-1-liquorix-amd64 [6.15-1~mx23ahs] arch: x86_64 bits: 64 compiler: gcc v: 12.2.0 clocksource: tsc
avail: acpi_pm parameters: audit=0 intel_pstate=disable amd_pstate=disable
BOOT_IMAGE=/boot/vmlinuz-6.15.2-1-liquorix-amd64 root=UUID=<filter> ro quiet splash
Desktop: Xfce v: 4.20.0 tk: Gtk v: 3.24.38 wm: xfwm4 v: 4.20.0 with: xfce4-panel
tools: xfce4-screensaver vt: 7 dm: LightDM v: 1.32.0 Distro: MX-23.6_ahs_x64 Libretto April 13
2025 base: Debian GNU/Linux 12 (bookworm)
Machine:
Type: Desktop System: PELADN product: WO4 v: N/A serial: <superuser required>
Mobo: PELADN model: WO4 serial: <superuser required> uuid: <superuser required> UEFI: American
Megatrends LLC. v: 5.24 date: 07/24/2024
Battery:
Device-1: hidpp_battery_0 model: Logitech ERGO M575 Trackball serial: <filter> charge: 100%
rechargeable: yes status: discharging
CPU:
Info: model: AMD Ryzen 9 6900HX with Radeon Graphics bits: 64 type: MT MCP arch: Zen 3+ gen: 3
level: v3 note: check built: 2022 process: TSMC n6 (7nm) family: 0x19 (25) model-id: 0x44 (68)
stepping: 1 microcode: 0xA404102
Topology: cpus: 1x dies: 1 clusters: 1 cores: 8 threads: 16 tpc: 2 smt: enabled cache:
L1: 512 KiB desc: d-8x32 KiB; i-8x32 KiB L2: 4 MiB desc: 8x512 KiB L3: 16 MiB desc: 1x16 MiB
Speed (MHz): avg: 1344 min/max: 1600/4935 boost: enabled scaling: driver: acpi-cpufreq
governor: ondemand cores: 1: 1344 2: 1344 3: 1344 4: 1344 5: 1344 6: 1344 7: 1344 8: 1344 9: 1344
10: 1344 11: 1344 12: 1344 13: 1344 14: 1344 15: 1344 16: 1344 bogomips: 105400
Flags: avx avx2 ht lm nx pae sse sse2 sse3 sse4_1 sse4_2 sse4a ssse3 svm
Vulnerabilities:
Type: gather_data_sampling status: Not affected
Type: ghostwrite status: Not affected
Type: indirect_target_selection status: Not affected
Type: itlb_multihit status: Not affected
Type: l1tf status: Not affected
Type: mds status: Not affected
Type: meltdown status: Not affected
Type: mmio_stale_data status: Not affected
Type: old_microcode status: Not affected
Type: reg_file_data_sampling status: Not affected
Type: retbleed status: Not affected
Type: spec_rstack_overflow status: Vulnerable: Safe RET, no microcode
Type: spec_store_bypass mitigation: Speculative Store Bypass disabled via prctl
Type: spectre_v1 mitigation: usercopy/swapgs barriers and __user pointer sanitization
Type: spectre_v2 mitigation: Retpolines; IBPB: conditional; IBRS_FW; STIBP: always-on; RSB
filling; PBRSB-eIBRS: Not affected; BHI: Not affected
Type: srbds status: Not affected
Type: tsx_async_abort status: Not affected
Graphics:
Device-1: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD/ATI] Rembrandt [Radeon 680M] driver: amdgpu v: kernel
arch: RDNA-2 code: Navi-2x process: TSMC n7 (7nm) built: 2020-22 pcie: gen: 4 speed: 16 GT/s
lanes: 16 ports: active: HDMI-A-1 empty: DP-1, DP-2, DP-3, DP-4, DP-5, DP-6, DP-7, DP-8,
Writeback-1 bus-ID: 76:00.0 chip-ID: 1002:1681 class-ID: 0300 temp: 39.0 C
Display: x11 server: X.Org v: 1.21.1.7 compositor: xfwm4 v: 4.20.0 driver: X: loaded: amdgpu
unloaded: fbdev,modesetting,vesa dri: radeonsi gpu: amdgpu display-ID: :0.0 screens: 1
Screen-1: 0 s-res: 1920x1080 s-dpi: 96 s-size: 509x286mm (20.04x11.26") s-diag: 584mm (22.99")
Monitor-1: HDMI-A-1 mapped: HDMI-A-0 model: Sceptre F27 built: 2023 res: mode: 1920x1080 hz: 60
scale: 100% (1) dpi: 82 gamma: 1.2 size: 598x336mm (23.54x13.23") diag: 686mm (27") ratio: 16:9
modes: max: 1920x1080 min: 640x480
API: EGL v: 1.5 hw: drv: amd radeonsi platforms: device: 0 drv: radeonsi device: 1 drv: swrast
gbm: drv: kms_swrast surfaceless: drv: radeonsi x11: drv: radeonsi inactive: wayland
API: OpenGL v: 4.6 vendor: amd mesa v: 25.0.4-1~bpo12+1 glx-v: 1.4 es-v: 3.2 direct-render: yes
renderer: AMD Radeon 680M (radeonsi rembrandt LLVM 15.0.6 DRM 3.63 6.15.2-1-liquorix-amd64)
device-ID: 1002:1681 memory: 3.91 GiB unified: no
API: Vulkan v: 1.4.304 layers: 3 device: 0 type: integrated-gpu name: AMD Radeon 680M (RADV
REMBRANDT) driver: mesa radv v: 25.0.4-1~bpo12+1 device-ID: 1002:1681 surfaces: xcb,xlib
device: 1 type: cpu name: llvmpipe (LLVM 15.0.6 256 bits) driver: mesa llvmpipe
v: 25.0.4-1~bpo12+1 (LLVM 15.0.6) device-ID: 10005:0000 surfaces: xcb,xlib
Info: Tools: api: eglinfo, glxinfo, vulkaninfo de: xfce4-display-settings x11: xdriinfo,
xdpyinfo, xprop, xrandr
Audio:
Device-1: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD/ATI] Rembrandt Radeon High Definition Audio
driver: snd_hda_intel v: kernel pcie: gen: 4 speed: 16 GT/s lanes: 16 bus-ID: 76:00.1
chip-ID: 1002:1640 class-ID: 0403
Device-2: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] ACP/ACP3X/ACP6x Audio Coprocessor driver: snd_pci_acp6x
v: kernel alternate: snd_pci_acp3x, snd_rn_pci_acp3x, snd_pci_acp5x, snd_acp_pci,
snd_rpl_pci_acp6x, snd_pci_ps, snd_sof_amd_renoir, snd_sof_amd_rembrandt, snd_sof_amd_vangogh,
snd_sof_amd_acp63, snd_sof_amd_acp70 pcie: gen: 4 speed: 16 GT/s lanes: 16 bus-ID: 76:00.5
chip-ID: 1022:15e2 class-ID: 0480
Device-3: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] Family 17h/19h/1ah HD Audio driver: snd_hda_intel
v: kernel pcie: gen: 4 speed: 16 GT/s lanes: 16 bus-ID: 76:00.6 chip-ID: 1022:15e3 class-ID: 0403
API: ALSA v: k6.15.2-1-liquorix-amd64 status: kernel-api tools: alsactl,alsamixer,amixer
Server-1: PipeWire v: 1.4.5 status: active with: 1: pipewire-pulse status: active
2: wireplumber status: active 3: pipewire-alsa type: plugin 4: pw-jack type: plugin
tools: pactl,pw-cat,pw-cli,wpctl
Network:
Device-1: Realtek RTL8125 2.5GbE driver: r8169 v: kernel pcie: gen: 2 speed: 5 GT/s lanes: 1
port: f000 bus-ID: 02:00.0 chip-ID: 10ec:8125 class-ID: 0200
IF: eth0 state: down mac: <filter>
Device-2: Intel Wi-Fi 6 AX200 driver: iwlwifi v: kernel modules: wl pcie: gen: 2 speed: 5 GT/s
lanes: 1 bus-ID: 03:00.0 chip-ID: 8086:2723 class-ID: 0280
IF: wlan0 state: down mac: <filter>
Device-3: Realtek RTL8111/8168/8211/8411 PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet driver: r8169 v: kernel
pcie: gen: 1 speed: 2.5 GT/s lanes: 1 port: e000 bus-ID: 04:00.0 chip-ID: 10ec:8168
class-ID: 0200
IF: eth1 state: up speed: 1000 Mbps duplex: full mac: <filter>
Info: services: NetworkManager, smbd, wpa_supplicant
Bluetooth:
Device-1: Intel AX200 Bluetooth driver: btusb v: 0.8 type: USB rev: 2.0 speed: 12 Mb/s lanes: 1
mode: 1.1 bus-ID: 3-3:2 chip-ID: 8087:0029 class-ID: e001
Report: hciconfig ID: hci0 rfk-id: 1 state: up address: <filter> bt-v: 5.2 lmp-v: 11
sub-v: 2184 hci-v: 11 rev: 2184 class-ID: 7c0104
Info: acl-mtu: 1021:4 sco-mtu: 96:6 link-policy: rswitch sniff link-mode: peripheral accept
service-classes: rendering, capturing, object transfer, audio, telephony
Drives:
Local Storage: total: 1.84 TiB used: 413.29 GiB (21.9%)
SMART Message: Unable to run smartctl. Root privileges required.
ID-1: /dev/nvme0n1 maj-min: 259:0 vendor: Kingston model: OM8PGP41024N-A0 size: 953.87 GiB
block-size: physical: 512 B logical: 512 B speed: 63.2 Gb/s lanes: 4 tech: SSD serial: <filter>
fw-rev: ELFK7N.7 temp: 38.9 C scheme: GPT
ID-2: /dev/nvme1n1 maj-min: 259:2 vendor: Samsung model: SSD 990 EVO 1TB size: 931.51 GiB
block-size: physical: 512 B logical: 512 B speed: 63.2 Gb/s lanes: 4 tech: SSD serial: <filter>
fw-rev: 0B2QKXJ7 temp: 41.9 C scheme: GPT
Partition:
ID-1: / raw-size: 931.26 GiB size: 915.57 GiB (98.31%) used: 39.14 GiB (4.3%) fs: ext4
dev: /dev/nvme1n1p2 maj-min: 259:4
ID-2: /boot/efi raw-size: 256 MiB size: 252 MiB (98.46%) used: 274 KiB (0.1%) fs: vfat
dev: /dev/nvme1n1p1 maj-min: 259:3
Swap:
Kernel: swappiness: 15 (default 60) cache-pressure: 100 (default) zswap: no
ID-1: swap-1 type: file size: 8 GiB used: 0 KiB (0.0%) priority: -2 file: /swap/swap
Sensors:
System Temperatures: cpu: 42.5 C mobo: N/A gpu: amdgpu temp: 41.0 C
Fan Speeds (rpm): N/A
Repos:
Packages: pm: dpkg pkgs: 2304 libs: 1198 tools: apt, apt-get, aptitude, nala, synaptic pm: rpm
pkgs: 0 pm: flatpak pkgs: 0
No active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list
Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/brave-browser-release.list
1: deb [arch=amd64 signed-by=/usr/share/keyrings/brave-browser-archive-keyring.gpg] https://brave-browser-apt-release.s3.brave.com/ stable main
Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian-stable-updates.list
1: deb http://deb.debian.org/debian bookworm-updates main contrib non-free non-free-firmware
Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian.list
1: deb http://deb.debian.org/debian bookworm main contrib non-free non-free-firmware
2: deb http://security.debian.org/debian-security bookworm-security main contrib non-free non-free-firmware
Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/mx.list
1: deb http://mirror.math.princeton.edu/pub/mxlinux/mx/repo/ bookworm main non-free
2: deb http://mirror.math.princeton.edu/pub/mxlinux/mx/repo/ bookworm ahs
Info:
Memory: total: N/A available: 58.61 GiB used: 2.21 GiB (3.8%)
Processes: 421 Power: uptime: 1h 6m states: freeze,mem,disk suspend: s2idle avail: deep
wakeups: 0 hibernate: platform avail: shutdown, reboot, suspend, test_resume image: 23.39 GiB
services: upowerd,xfce4-power-manager Init: SysVinit v: 3.08 runlevel: 5 default: graphical
tool: systemctl
Compilers: gcc: 12.2.0 Client: shell wrapper v: 5.2.15-release inxi: 3.3.38
Boot Mode: UEFI
Re: No more ahs Liquorix kernel?
Posted: Sun Jul 13, 2025 12:00 am
by Stevo
I have backported the 555 Nvidia drivers from Debian Experimental that are supposed to build on 6.15 kernels, but I can't get them to upgrade over the existing drivers, and I can't figure out why. "aptitude why-not" is not much help...in the past, it was something like needing a newer nvidia-modprobe, but I can't pin this one down.
Re: No more ahs Liquorix kernel?
Posted: Mon Jul 14, 2025 3:05 pm
by mdmarmer
I have installed the latest liquorix kernel from liquorix.net and i think i successfully built the nvidia driver: uname -a
Linux mx 6.15.6-1-liquorix-amd64 #1 ZEN SMP PREEMPT_DYNAMIC liquorix 6.15-6.1~bookworm (2025-07-1 x86_64 GNU/Linux
/sbin/modinfo nvidia | grep ^version
version: 575.64.03
I downloaded the driver from the nvidia web site and patched it with instructions from here:
wget
https://raw.githubusercontent.com/leigh ... code.patch
sh NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-575.64.03.run --apply-patch Workaround-nv_vm_flags_-calling-GPL-only-code.patch
Then install the custom .run file
sh NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-575.64.03-custom.run
this is from
https://forums.developer.nvidia.com/t/n ... /334564/12
I don't have nvidia, so i can't test the driver.
Re: No more ahs Liquorix kernel?
Posted: Mon Jul 14, 2025 3:30 pm
by Stevo
That's a workaround if you must have the 6.15 kernel with Nvidia drivers, but Debian's version is still what we prefer. I wonder if MXNI will work using the Nvidia apt repo option for 6.15 kernel builds.