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2nd Screen weirdness

Posted: Thu Jul 10, 2025 9:18 am
by AltairIV

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System:
  Kernel: 6.1.0-37-amd64 [6.1.140-1] arch: x86_64 bits: 64 compiler: gcc v: 12.2.0
    parameters: BOOT_IMAGE=/boot/vmlinuz-6.1.0-37-amd64 root=UUID=<filter> ro quiet splash
  Desktop: Xfce v: 4.20.0 tk: Gtk v: 3.24.38 info: xfce4-panel wm: xfwm v: 4.20.0 vt: 7
    dm: LightDM v: 1.32.0 Distro: MX-23.6_x64 Libretto April 13  2025 base: Debian GNU/Linux 12
    (bookworm)
Machine:
  Type: Desktop System: Notebook product: P17SM-A v: N/A serial: <superuser required>
  Mobo: Notebook model: P17SM-A serial: <superuser required> BIOS: American Megatrends v: 4.6.5
    date: 09/12/2014
CPU:
  Info: model: Intel Core i7-4710MQ bits: 64 type: MT MCP arch: Haswell gen: core 4 level: v3
    note: check built: 2013-15 process: Intel 22nm family: 6 model-id: 0x3C (60) stepping: 3
    microcode: 0x28
  Topology: cpus: 1x cores: 4 tpc: 2 threads: 8 smt: enabled cache: L1: 256 KiB
    desc: d-4x32 KiB; i-4x32 KiB L2: 1024 KiB desc: 4x256 KiB L3: 6 MiB desc: 1x6 MiB
  Speed (MHz): avg: 1147 high: 1356 min/max: 800/3500 scaling: driver: intel_cpufreq
    governor: ondemand cores: 1: 1072 2: 1066 3: 1356 4: 1309 5: 1021 6: 900 7: 1322 8: 1135
    bogomips: 39907
  Flags: avx avx2 ht lm nx pae sse sse2 sse3 sse4_1 sse4_2 ssse3 vmx
  Vulnerabilities:
  Type: gather_data_sampling status: Not affected
  Type: indirect_target_selection status: Not affected
  Type: itlb_multihit status: KVM: VMX disabled
  Type: l1tf mitigation: PTE Inversion; VMX: conditional cache flushes, SMT vulnerable
  Type: mds mitigation: Clear CPU buffers; SMT vulnerable
  Type: meltdown mitigation: PTI
  Type: mmio_stale_data status: Unknown: No mitigations
  Type: reg_file_data_sampling status: Not affected
  Type: retbleed status: Not affected
  Type: spec_rstack_overflow status: Not affected
  Type: spec_store_bypass mitigation: Speculative Store Bypass disabled via prctl
  Type: spectre_v1 mitigation: usercopy/swapgs barriers and __user pointer sanitization
  Type: spectre_v2 mitigation: Retpolines; IBPB: conditional; IBRS_FW; STIBP: conditional; RSB
    filling; PBRSB-eIBRS: Not affected; BHI: Not affected
  Type: srbds mitigation: Microcode
  Type: tsx_async_abort status: Not affected
Graphics:
  Device-1: Intel 4th Gen Core Processor Integrated Graphics vendor: CLEVO/KAPOK driver: i915
    v: kernel arch: Gen-7.5 process: Intel 22nm built: 2013 ports: active: DP-2,HDMI-A-2 off: eDP-1
    empty: DP-1,HDMI-A-1,HDMI-A-3 bus-ID: 00:02.0 chip-ID: 8086:0416 class-ID: 0300
  Device-2: NVIDIA GM204M [GeForce GTX 960 OEM / 970M] vendor: CLEVO/KAPOK driver: nvidia
    v: 535.247.01 non-free: 530.xx+ status: current (as of 2023-03) arch: Maxwell code: GMxxx
    process: TSMC 28nm built: 2014-19 pcie: gen: 1 speed: 2.5 GT/s lanes: 16 link-max: gen: 3
    speed: 8 GT/s bus-ID: 01:00.0 chip-ID: 10de:13d8 class-ID: 0300
  Device-3: Bison BisonCam NB Pro type: USB driver: uvcvideo bus-ID: 2-10:6 chip-ID: 5986:055c
    class-ID: 0e02 serial: <filter>
  Display: x11 server: X.Org v: 1.21.1.7 compositor: xfwm v: 4.20.0 driver: X:
    loaded: modesetting,nvidia unloaded: fbdev,nouveau,vesa alternate: nv dri: crocus gpu: i915
    display-ID: :0.0 screens: 1
  Screen-1: 0 s-res: 3840x2124 s-dpi: 96 s-size: 1017x562mm (40.04x22.13")
    s-diag: 1162mm (45.75")
  Monitor-1: DP-2 pos: primary,bottom-l model: Dell P2225H serial: <filter> built: 2025
    res: 1920x1080 hz: 60 dpi: 102 gamma: 1.2 size: 476x268mm (18.74x10.55") diag: 546mm (21.5")
    ratio: 16:9 modes: max: 1920x1080 min: 720x400
  Monitor-2: HDMI-A-2 mapped: HDMI-2 pos: top-right model: Sony TV 00 serial: <filter>
    built: 2015 res: 1920x1080 hz: 60 dpi: 40 gamma: 1.2 size: 1218x685mm (47.95x26.97")
    diag: 1397mm (55") ratio: 16:9 modes: max: 1920x1080 min: 640x480
  Monitor-3: eDP-1 note: disabled model: AU Optronics 0x149d built: 2009 res: 1920x1080 dpi: 128
    gamma: 1.2 size: 381x214mm (15x8.43") diag: 437mm (17.2") ratio: 16:9 modes: 1920x1080
  API: OpenGL v: 4.6 Mesa 22.3.6 renderer: Mesa Intel HD Graphics 4600 (HSW GT2)
    direct-render: Yes
Audio:
  Device-1: Intel Xeon E3-1200 v3/4th Gen Core Processor HD Audio vendor: CLEVO/KAPOK
    driver: snd_hda_intel v: kernel bus-ID: 00:03.0 chip-ID: 8086:0c0c class-ID: 0403
  Device-2: Intel 8 Series/C220 Series High Definition Audio vendor: CLEVO/KAPOK 8
    driver: snd_hda_intel v: kernel bus-ID: 00:1b.0 chip-ID: 8086:8c20 class-ID: 0403
  Device-3: NVIDIA GM204 High Definition Audio driver: snd_hda_intel v: kernel pcie: gen: 1
    speed: 2.5 GT/s lanes: 16 link-max: gen: 3 speed: 8 GT/s bus-ID: 01:00.1 chip-ID: 10de:0fbb
    class-ID: 0403
  API: ALSA v: k6.1.0-37-amd64 status: kernel-api tools: alsamixer,amixer
  Server-1: PipeWire v: 1.0.0 status: active with: 1: pipewire-pulse status: active
    2: wireplumber status: active 3: pipewire-alsa type: plugin 4: pw-jack type: plugin
    tools: pactl,pw-cat,pw-cli,wpctl
Network:
  Device-1: Realtek RTL8111/8168/8411 PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet vendor: CLEVO/KAPOK
    driver: r8169 v: kernel pcie: gen: 1 speed: 2.5 GT/s lanes: 1 port: d000 bus-ID: 05:00.2
    chip-ID: 10ec:8168 class-ID: 0200
  IF: eth0 state: down mac: <filter>
  Device-2: Intel Wireless 7260 driver: iwlwifi v: kernel modules: wl pcie: gen: 1
    speed: 2.5 GT/s lanes: 1 bus-ID: 06:00.0 chip-ID: 8086:08b1 class-ID: 0280
  IF: wlan0 state: up mac: <filter>
Bluetooth:
  Device-1: Intel Bluetooth wireless interface type: USB driver: btusb v: 0.8 bus-ID: 2-4:4
    chip-ID: 8087:07dc class-ID: e001
  Report: hciconfig ID: hci0 rfk-id: 1 state: up address: <filter> bt-v: 2.1 lmp-v: 4.0
    sub-v: e00 hci-v: 4.0 rev: e00
  Info: acl-mtu: 1021:5 sco-mtu: 96:6 link-policy: rswitch hold sniff
    link-mode: peripheral accept service-classes: rendering, capturing, audio, telephony
Drives:
  Local Storage: total: 1.82 TiB used: 15.79 GiB (0.8%)
  SMART Message: Unable to run smartctl. Root privileges required.
  ID-1: /dev/sda maj-min: 8:0 vendor: Samsung model: SSD 860 EVO 1TB size: 931.51 GiB block-size:
    physical: 512 B logical: 512 B speed: 6.0 Gb/s type: SSD serial: <filter> rev: 3B6Q scheme: MBR
  ID-2: /dev/sdb maj-min: 8:16 vendor: Samsung model: SSD 840 EVO 1TB size: 931.51 GiB
    block-size: physical: 512 B logical: 512 B speed: 6.0 Gb/s type: SSD serial: <filter> rev: BB6Q
    scheme: MBR
Partition:
  ID-1: / raw-size: 931.51 GiB size: 915.81 GiB (98.31%) used: 15.79 GiB (1.7%) fs: ext4
    dev: /dev/sdb1 maj-min: 8:17
Swap:
  Kernel: swappiness: 15 (default 60) cache-pressure: 100 (default)
  ID-1: swap-1 type: file size: 4 GiB used: 0 KiB (0.0%) priority: -2 file: /swap/swap
Sensors:
  System Temperatures: cpu: 39.0 C mobo: N/A
  Fan Speeds (RPM): N/A
Repos:
  Packages: 2347 pm: dpkg pkgs: 2346 libs: 1226 tools: apt,apt-get,aptitude,nala,synaptic pm: rpm
    pkgs: 0 pm: flatpak pkgs: 1
  No active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list
  Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian-stable-updates.list
    1: deb http://deb.debian.org/debian bookworm-updates main contrib non-free non-free-firmware
  Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian.list
    1: deb http://deb.debian.org/debian bookworm main contrib non-free non-free-firmware
    2: deb http://security.debian.org/debian-security bookworm-security main contrib non-free non-free-firmware
  Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/mx.list
    1: deb http://mirror.datamossa.io/mxlinux/mx/repo/ bookworm main non-free
Info:
  Processes: 250 Uptime: 6m wakeups: 2 Memory: 15.54 GiB used: 1.92 GiB (12.4%) Init: SysVinit
  v: 3.06 runlevel: 5 default: graphical tool: systemctl Compilers: gcc: 12.2.0 alt: 12
  Client: shell wrapper v: 5.2.15-release inxi: 3.3.26
Boot Mode: BIOS (legacy, CSM, MBR)

Re: 2nd Screen weirdness

Posted: Thu Jul 10, 2025 9:25 am
by Eadwine Rose
@AltairIV

What is going on, we cannot mind read.

Re: 2nd Screen weirdness

Posted: Thu Jul 10, 2025 9:34 am
by AltairIV
Eadwine Rose wrote: Thu Jul 10, 2025 9:25 am @AltairIV

What is going on, we cannot mind read.
That's the second time you have been rude to me, please stop it.
I had an issue which needed a re-boot so I couldn't post the explanation I was writing for the second post. 7 minutes.

Re: 2nd Screen weirdness

Posted: Thu Jul 10, 2025 9:37 am
by rokytnji.1
She asked Legit question. It is you being rude.

Re: 2nd Screen weirdness

Posted: Thu Jul 10, 2025 9:39 am
by Eadwine Rose
Posting just a QSI is lacking, and I don't know that you are going to edit or something. If you think me telling you that I cannot mind read is rude, then that is not a me problem, because I was just stating a fact. Again with the editing being done. I cannot possibly know that.

Re: 2nd Screen weirdness

Posted: Thu Jul 10, 2025 9:40 am
by rokytnji.1
Might wanna look in sudo dmesg for failure reason.

Re: 2nd Screen weirdness

Posted: Thu Jul 10, 2025 9:48 am
by siamhie
AltairIV wrote: Thu Jul 10, 2025 9:34 am I had an issue which needed a re-boot so I couldn't post the explanation I was writing for the second post. 7 minutes.
Post the issue you are having with your second screen please.

Re: 2nd Screen weirdness

Posted: Thu Jul 10, 2025 9:55 am
by AltairIV
Eadwine Rose wrote: Thu Jul 10, 2025 9:39 am Posting just a QSI is lacking, and I don't know that you are going to edit or something. If you think me telling you that I cannot mind read is rude, then that is not a me problem, because I was just stating a fact. Again with the editing being done. I cannot possibly know that.
You waited a total of about 5 minutes before implying that I was expecting mind reading. It WAS rude and impatient.
Yesterday you accused me of not having read the rules as the reason I hadn't posted the QSI....I simply forgot, today I posted the QSI in line with your expectations and had intended to post an immediate 2nd post but I wasn't fast enough for you.
Clearly you have a problem with me. Now apparently I am "lacking".
So you have so far accused me of not having read the rules, expecting others to be mind readers and that I am lacking.
And you think your approach isn't rude; wow.
Whatever you like to call it, your are hounding me...please stop it and give a person a break. Your role is not to bully people and you ARE bullying me.

Re: 2nd Screen weirdness

Posted: Thu Jul 10, 2025 9:57 am
by AltairIV
rokytnji.1 wrote: Thu Jul 10, 2025 9:37 am She asked Legit question. It is you being rude.
Nonsense in every respect.

Re: 2nd Screen weirdness

Posted: Thu Jul 10, 2025 10:01 am
by Eadwine Rose
You are getting the same treatment everyone else is getting here.

Please post about your problem now.

Re: 2nd Screen weirdness

Posted: Thu Jul 10, 2025 10:04 am
by AltairIV
siamhie wrote: Thu Jul 10, 2025 9:48 am
AltairIV wrote: Thu Jul 10, 2025 9:34 am I had an issue which needed a re-boot so I couldn't post the explanation I was writing for the second post. 7 minutes.
Post the issue you are having with your second screen please.
Whilst using live USB I was able to have the laptop monitor disabled, the Dell monitor (via displayport cable) as primary monitor with the tv as second monitor (via HDMI).
The laptop monitor was able to be off and the other two screens showed the same. Since installing into hard drive, if the laptop screen is off/disabled, the tv only shows the MX logo.
If I enable mirroring, all three are on and showing the same but I don't want the laptop screen on.
Plus the cursor in mirroring is now huge.

Re: 2nd Screen weirdness

Posted: Thu Jul 10, 2025 10:11 am
by AltairIV
Eadwine Rose wrote: Thu Jul 10, 2025 10:01 am You are getting the same treatment everyone else is getting here.
So far I haven't seen any other posts by you where you have the used the same or similar tone which you have used with me.
Yesterday, despite the incorrect assertion that I had not read the rules, I apologised for the error.
I think we should leave it there and I would be grateful if you could be a bit more polite towards me in future; we all have different levels of ability

Re: 2nd Screen weirdness

Posted: Thu Jul 10, 2025 10:13 am
by Eadwine Rose

Re: 2nd Screen weirdness

Posted: Thu Jul 10, 2025 10:17 am
by AltairIV
Eadwine Rose wrote: Thu Jul 10, 2025 10:13 am search.php?keywords=forum+rules+%28plea ... mit=Search

Here you go.
There is nothing in the rules that allows a moderator/administrator to be rude or to hound/bully people.
I have said that we should leave it there, I can't see any useful purpose in continuing this. Please leave me alone, thank you.

Re: 2nd Screen weirdness

Posted: Thu Jul 10, 2025 10:19 am
by siamhie
AltairIV wrote: Thu Jul 10, 2025 9:55 am
Eadwine Rose wrote: Thu Jul 10, 2025 9:39 am Posting just a QSI is lacking, and I don't know that you are going to edit or something. If you think me telling you that I cannot mind read is rude, then that is not a me problem, because I was just stating a fact. Again with the editing being done. I cannot possibly know that.
You waited a total of about 5 minutes before implying that I was expecting mind reading. It WAS rude and impatient.
Yesterday you accused me of not having read the rules as the reason I hadn't posted the QSI....I simply forgot, today I posted the QSI in line with your expectations and had intended to post an immediate 2nd post but I wasn't fast enough for you.
Clearly you have a problem with me. Now apparently I am "lacking".
So you have so far accused me of not having read the rules, expecting others to be mind readers and that I am lacking.
And you think your approach isn't rude; wow.
Whatever you like to call it, your are hounding me...please stop it and give a person a break. Your role is not to bully people and you ARE bullying me.

You're new to this forum, so here's the link to the Rules of these forums. Everyone has to abide by them. No-one gets singled out.
Do not post topics that relate to different genders, race, color, politics or religion. Discussion of these topics can cause problems and quickly degenerate into arguments.
Do not use swear words, whether directly or masked with other characters.
Keep personal problems off the forums. Let's try to keep peace among the community and for visitors.
Before submitting a post, pause and consider KNIT. Is the post Kind. Necessary, Informed, True.

Re: 2nd Screen weirdness

Posted: Thu Jul 10, 2025 10:22 am
by siamhie
AltairIV wrote: Thu Jul 10, 2025 10:04 am
siamhie wrote: Thu Jul 10, 2025 9:48 am
AltairIV wrote: Thu Jul 10, 2025 9:34 am I had an issue which needed a re-boot so I couldn't post the explanation I was writing for the second post. 7 minutes.
Post the issue you are having with your second screen please.
Whilst using live USB I was able to have the laptop monitor disabled, the Dell monitor (via displayport cable) as primary monitor with the tv as second monitor (via HDMI).
The laptop monitor was able to be off and the other two screens showed the same. Since installing into hard drive, if the laptop screen is off/disabled, the tv only shows the MX logo.
If I enable mirroring, all three are on and showing the same but I don't want the laptop screen on.
Plus the cursor in mirroring is now huge.

I don't run a multi monitor setup but which monitor is set to the default?

Re: 2nd Screen weirdness

Posted: Thu Jul 10, 2025 10:23 am
by j2mcgreg
@AltairIV

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Boot Mode: BIOS (legacy, CSM, MBR)
Your computer has a UEFI bios (I checked) yet you have chosen (easy beginner mistake) to do a legacy (CSM, MBR) install. THE CSM module within the UEFI bios was created specifically to allow users to roll back to Windows 7 from Win 8, 8.1, and the early builds of Win 10. It should not be used with Linux and users can expect erratic behaviour when they do just that. The reason is that the bios will be looking for the Windows 7 hooks and will try any other connection when they are absent. Sometimes it gets them right but more often it gets them wrong. My advice is to back up your data, and reinstall, but this time be sure to configure your USB drive creation tool (Rufus on Windows, Ventoy or or own Live USB Maker) to use GPT partitioning.

Re: 2nd Screen weirdness

Posted: Thu Jul 10, 2025 10:32 am
by AltairIV
siamhie wrote: Thu Jul 10, 2025 10:19 am
You're new to this forum, so here's the link to the Rules of these forums. Everyone has to abide by them. No-one gets singled out.
Do not post topics that relate to different genders, race, color, politics or religion. Discussion of these topics can cause problems and quickly degenerate into arguments.
Do not use swear words, whether directly or masked with other characters.
Keep personal problems off the forums. Let's try to keep peace among the community and for visitors.
Before submitting a post, pause and consider KNIT. Is the post Kind. Necessary, Informed, True.


I did none of the things which you have quoted.
I don't have any problem with forum rules or with polite enforcement of those rules.....rude enforcement of those rules with personal attacks leveled against me are unnecessary and are highly likely to create exactly the situation which we now have and which the rules explicitly try to avoid. In this scenario it was not me who broke the rules but the admin.
Now I have asked that we let this issue go and move on to dealing with the technical issue. It seems that you want to perpetuate this argument, which is counter-productive.

Re: 2nd Screen weirdness

Posted: Thu Jul 10, 2025 10:42 am
by AltairIV
j2mcgreg wrote: Thu Jul 10, 2025 10:23 am @AltairIV

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Boot Mode: BIOS (legacy, CSM, MBR)
Your computer has a UEFI bios (I checked) yet you have chosen (easy beginner mistake) to do a legacy (CSM, MBR) install. THE CSM module within the UEFI bios was created specifically to allow users to roll back to Windows 7 from Win 8, 8.1, and the early builds of Win 10. It should not be used with Linux and users can expect erratic behaviour when they do just that. The reason is that the bios will be looking for the Windows 7 hooks and will try any other connection when they are absent. Sometimes it gets them right but more often it gets them wrong. My advice is to back up your data, and reinstall, but this time be sure to configure your USB drive creation tool (Rufus on Windows, Ventoy or or own Live USB Maker) to use GPT partitioning.
When installing from the live USB to hard drive, I don't recall any BIOS options.
When creating the live USB I couldn't use Rufus or Balena as they no longer support Win 7 and old versions wouldn't work so I downloaded MX to Win 7, burnt it to DVD the used the MX Live USB maker. Again there were no BIOS options presented.
Ventoy looked v complicated and some have concerns about safety. The DVD > USB method has no third parties involved which I liked.
Rather than a partition, I put MX on a separate SSD to the Win 7 SSD as I have two slots. If UEFI is enabled on this computer, Win 7 can't open. I think the issue is that the Win was not installed as EUFI.
Where I go from here I'm not sure.
Thanks

Re: 2nd Screen weirdness

Posted: Thu Jul 10, 2025 10:44 am
by AltairIV
siamhie wrote: Thu Jul 10, 2025 10:22 am
AltairIV wrote: Thu Jul 10, 2025 10:04 am
siamhie wrote: Thu Jul 10, 2025 9:48 am

Post the issue you are having with your second screen please.
Whilst using live USB I was able to have the laptop monitor disabled, the Dell monitor (via displayport cable) as primary monitor with the tv as second monitor (via HDMI).
The laptop monitor was able to be off and the other two screens showed the same. Since installing into hard drive, if the laptop screen is off/disabled, the tv only shows the MX logo.
If I enable mirroring, all three are on and showing the same but I don't want the laptop screen on.
Plus the cursor in mirroring is now huge.

I don't run a multi monitor setup but which monitor is set to the default?
The Dell

Re: 2nd Screen weirdness

Posted: Thu Jul 10, 2025 10:56 am
by j2mcgreg
@AltairIV wrote:
When installing from the live USB to hard drive, I don't recall any BIOS options.
When creating the live USB I couldn't use Rufus or Balena as they no longer support Win 7 and old versions wouldn't work so I downloaded MX to Win 7, burnt it to DVD the used the MX Live USB maker. Again there were no BIOS options presented.
Rather than a partition, I put MX on a separate SSD to the Win 7 SSD as I have two slots. If UEFI is enabled on this computer, Win 7 can't open. I think the issue is that the Win was not installed as EUFI.
Where I go from here I'm not sure.
Thanks
On UEFI capable computers, you often have to set an Administrators' password before advanced features like changing the boot order or configuring USB ports etc become available/

Re: 2nd Screen weirdness

Posted: Thu Jul 10, 2025 11:13 am
by AltairIV
j2mcgreg wrote: Thu Jul 10, 2025 10:56 am @AltairIV wrote:
When installing from the live USB to hard drive, I don't recall any BIOS options.
When creating the live USB I couldn't use Rufus or Balena as they no longer support Win 7 and old versions wouldn't work so I downloaded MX to Win 7, burnt it to DVD the used the MX Live USB maker. Again there were no BIOS options presented.
Rather than a partition, I put MX on a separate SSD to the Win 7 SSD as I have two slots. If UEFI is enabled on this computer, Win 7 can't open. I think the issue is that the Win was not installed as EUFI.
Where I go from here I'm not sure.
Thanks
On UEFI capable computers, you often have to set an Administrators' password before advanced features like changing the boot order or configuring USB ports etc become available/
Changing boot order no password needed. USB port configuring, never done that.
I think the only thing I can do now if MBR is not advised for stability is to install a fresh MX when in Win7 to the other SSD and leave out the live USB. Will I get boot options then? Perhaps with two separate SSD's, one on MBR and the other EUFI, rather than a partition on one drive, if EUFI is enabled it might auto switch from one BIOS to the other depending on the SSD selected. I know it won't do that for a partition on a single SSD.

Re: 2nd Screen weirdness

Posted: Thu Jul 10, 2025 11:20 am
by siamhie
AltairIV wrote: Thu Jul 10, 2025 10:32 am
siamhie wrote: Thu Jul 10, 2025 10:19 am
You're new to this forum, so here's the link to the Rules of these forums. Everyone has to abide by them. No-one gets singled out.
Do not post topics that relate to different genders, race, color, politics or religion. Discussion of these topics can cause problems and quickly degenerate into arguments.
Do not use swear words, whether directly or masked with other characters.
Keep personal problems off the forums. Let's try to keep peace among the community and for visitors.
Before submitting a post, pause and consider KNIT. Is the post Kind. Necessary, Informed, True.


I did none of the things which you have quoted.
I don't have any problem with forum rules or with polite enforcement of those rules.....rude enforcement of those rules with personal attacks leveled against me are unnecessary and are highly likely to create exactly the situation which we now have and which the rules explicitly try to avoid. In this scenario it was not me who broke the rules but the admin.
Now I have asked that we let this issue go and move on to dealing with the technical issue. It seems that you want to perpetuate this argument, which is counter-productive.

You haven't read the rules or else you would have seen this stated in the first paragraph. I only quoted some of them. "Keep personal problems off the forums."
If you have a problem with a mod or another community member here, first try to resolve it privately (through pm's or emails) yourself
Personal bickering disrupts the flow of the topic. If this keeps up, this thread will get locked.

Re: 2nd Screen weirdness

Posted: Thu Jul 10, 2025 11:30 am
by AltairIV
siamhie wrote: Thu Jul 10, 2025 11:20 am
AltairIV wrote: Thu Jul 10, 2025 10:32 am
siamhie wrote: Thu Jul 10, 2025 10:19 am
You're new to this forum, so here's the link to the Rules of these forums. Everyone has to abide by them. No-one gets singled out.


I did none of the things which you have quoted.
I don't have any problem with forum rules or with polite enforcement of those rules.....rude enforcement of those rules with personal attacks leveled against me are unnecessary and are highly likely to create exactly the situation which we now have and which the rules explicitly try to avoid. In this scenario it was not me who broke the rules but the admin.
Now I have asked that we let this issue go and move on to dealing with the technical issue. It seems that you want to perpetuate this argument, which is counter-productive.

You haven't read the rules or else you would have seen this stated in the first paragraph. I only quoted some of them. "Keep personal problems off the forums."
If you have a problem with a mod or another community member here, first try to resolve it privately (through pm's or emails) yourself
Personal bickering disrupts the flow of the topic. If this keeps up, this thread will get locked.
So now you are saying this is all my fault due to "personal problems" that can only be construed as a personal attack and you just broke the rules. I think the personal problems you are looking for are elsewhere. If people can't enforce rules without being rude or making personal attacks and can't bring themselves to drop this argument in favour of not disrupting the flow of the topic, which you just did again, they need to look to themselves. Go ahead lock the topic, it just demonstrates pettiness over a desire to see technical issues solved, which I keep trying to do and you keep interrupting.

Re: 2nd Screen weirdness

Posted: Thu Jul 10, 2025 11:41 am
by siamhie
AltairIV wrote: Thu Jul 10, 2025 11:30 am
siamhie wrote: Thu Jul 10, 2025 11:20 am
AltairIV wrote: Thu Jul 10, 2025 10:32 am



I did none of the things which you have quoted.
I don't have any problem with forum rules or with polite enforcement of those rules.....rude enforcement of those rules with personal attacks leveled against me are unnecessary and are highly likely to create exactly the situation which we now have and which the rules explicitly try to avoid. In this scenario it was not me who broke the rules but the admin.
Now I have asked that we let this issue go and move on to dealing with the technical issue. It seems that you want to perpetuate this argument, which is counter-productive.

You haven't read the rules or else you would have seen this stated in the first paragraph. I only quoted some of them. "Keep personal problems off the forums."
If you have a problem with a mod or another community member here, first try to resolve it privately (through pm's or emails) yourself
Personal bickering disrupts the flow of the topic. If this keeps up, this thread will get locked.
So now you are saying this is all my fault due to "personal problems" that can only be construed as a personal attack and you just broke the rules. I think the personal problems you are looking for are elsewhere. If people can't enforce rules without being rude or making personal attacks and can't bring themselves to drop this argument in favour of not disrupting the flow of the topic, which you just did again, they need to look to themselves. Go ahead lock the topic, it just demonstrates pettiness over a desire to see technical issues solved, which I keep trying to do and you keep interrupting.
Your wish is my command. Topic locked.

Re: 2nd Screen weirdness

Posted: Thu Jul 10, 2025 11:53 am
by j2mcgreg
@AltairIV wrote:
Changing boot order no password needed. USB port configuring, never done that.
I think the only thing I can do now if MBR is not advised for stability is to install a fresh MX when in Win7 to the other SSD and leave out the live USB. Will I get boot options then? Perhaps with two separate SSD's, one on MBR and the other EUFI, rather than a partition on one drive, if EUFI is enabled it might auto switch from one BIOS to the other depending on the SSD selected. I know it won't do that for a partition on a single SSD.
The bios dictates the partitioning scheme to the operating system so it can be all MBR or all UEFI but you can't mix and match. My advice to you is to upgrade your Win 7 install to Win 10. After Win 10 has been installed, disable Secure Boot and proceed to set up your dual boot with MX. Note that Win 10 only needs Secure Boot to be enabled for its installer to work. It will run fine without it afterwards.