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new AMD machine-results and status
Posted: Wed Jul 09, 2025 11:02 pm
by entropyfoe
I got authorization from the boss, and Amazon Prime had some really good hardware deals.
I went with the
Asus TUF Gaming B650-Plus
Ryzen 9700X (a big upgrade to 8 cores from the 6 I have used before -nice, stockfish uses all these threads !)
64G Ram (Crucial)
Booting Samsung NVMe 1TB
Data on Samsung NVMe 2TB
I will try the integrated Radeon graphics, and see how it goes.
So, and advice as to standard 23.6 or AHS version? Any experience or thoughts on support for the integrated video?
My thinking is though the CPU is very new, the board is kind of last years model, so the Linux stuff should already be in the kernel.
Also thinking ahead to MX 25 of course.
I will use my usual partition scheme, three for a Warren style
/
swap
/home
with the fourth for an experimental partition for testing the new version grub to root.
Re: Building new AMD machine-advice or comments
Posted: Thu Jul 10, 2025 1:56 am
by Mauser
That's an excellent choice for a CPU because you can use the GPU part of it. Go with a Gigabyte motherboard since in my personal experience that ASUS quality has dropped sharply and that's coming from someone that always used ASUS motherboards in 4 different computer builds. My fourth computer build now runs a Gigabyte motherboard because I found out the hard way what the "TUFF" really means when it comes to ASUS when it failed after 13 months which is one month out of warranty. Currently in that same computer I built the Gigabyte motherboard is still going strong since early 2020. I would go with the AHS version of MX 23.6 LINUX based on your choices. Depending on many factors keep an eye on the CPU temperature. In my case I switched out the stock cooler with the Noctua NH-D12L CPU cooler. For you it might be different.
This is my setup.
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System:
Kernel: 6.1.0-37-amd64 [6.1.140-1] arch: x86_64 bits: 64 compiler: gcc v: 12.2.0
parameters: BOOT_IMAGE=/vmlinuz-6.1.0-37-amd64 root=UUID=<filter> ro quiet splash
resume=UUID=<filter> resume_offset=29446144
Desktop: Xfce v: 4.20.0 tk: Gtk v: 3.24.38 info: xfce4-panel wm: xfwm v: 4.20.0 vt: 7
dm: LightDM v: 1.32.0 Distro: MX-23.6_x64 Libretto October 15 2023 base: Debian GNU/Linux 12
(bookworm)
Machine:
Type: Desktop Mobo: Gigabyte model: B450 AORUS ELITE serial: <superuser required> UEFI: American
Megatrends LLC. v: F64a date: 02/17/2022
CPU:
Info: model: AMD Ryzen 7 2700X bits: 64 type: MT MCP arch: Zen+ gen: 2 level: v3 note: check
built: 2018-21 process: GF 12nm family: 0x17 (23) model-id: 8 stepping: 2 microcode: 0x800820D
Topology: cpus: 1x cores: 8 tpc: 2 threads: 16 smt: enabled cache: L1: 768 KiB
desc: d-8x32 KiB; i-8x64 KiB L2: 4 MiB desc: 8x512 KiB L3: 16 MiB desc: 2x8 MiB
Speed (MHz): avg: 2556 high: 4222 min/max: 2200/3700 boost: enabled scaling:
driver: acpi-cpufreq governor: ondemand cores: 1: 2125 2: 4019 3: 2105 4: 2126 5: 2200 6: 2108
7: 4222 8: 3147 9: 2096 10: 3843 11: 2125 12: 2096 13: 2200 14: 2200 15: 2200 16: 2093
bogomips: 118178
Flags: avx avx2 ht lm nx pae sse sse2 sse3 sse4_1 sse4_2 sse4a ssse3 svm
Vulnerabilities:
Type: gather_data_sampling status: Not affected
Type: indirect_target_selection status: Not affected
Type: itlb_multihit status: Not affected
Type: l1tf status: Not affected
Type: mds status: Not affected
Type: meltdown status: Not affected
Type: mmio_stale_data status: Not affected
Type: reg_file_data_sampling status: Not affected
Type: retbleed mitigation: untrained return thunk; SMT vulnerable
Type: spec_rstack_overflow mitigation: safe RET
Type: spec_store_bypass mitigation: Speculative Store Bypass disabled via prctl
Type: spectre_v1 mitigation: usercopy/swapgs barriers and __user pointer sanitization
Type: spectre_v2 mitigation: Retpolines; IBPB: conditional; STIBP: disabled; RSB filling;
PBRSB-eIBRS: Not affected; BHI: Not affected
Type: srbds status: Not affected
Type: tsx_async_abort status: Not affected
Graphics:
Device-1: AMD Baffin [Radeon RX 550 640SP / 560/560X] vendor: XFX Pine driver: amdgpu v: kernel
arch: GCN-4 code: Arctic Islands process: GF 14nm built: 2016-20 pcie: gen: 3 speed: 8 GT/s
lanes: 8 ports: active: DVI-D-1 empty: DP-1,HDMI-A-1 bus-ID: 07:00.0 chip-ID: 1002:67ff
class-ID: 0300 temp: 42.0 C
Display: x11 server: X.Org v: 1.21.1.7 compositor: xfwm v: 4.20.0 driver: X: loaded: amdgpu
dri: radeonsi gpu: amdgpu display-ID: :0.0 screens: 1
Screen-1: 0 s-res: 1536x864 s-dpi: 96 s-size: 407x229mm (16.02x9.02") s-diag: 467mm (18.39")
Monitor-1: DVI-D-1 mapped: DVI-D-0 model: Acer S271HL serial: <filter> built: 2019
res: 1536x864 hz: 60 dpi: 65 gamma: 1.2 size: 598x336mm (23.54x13.23") diag: 686mm (27")
ratio: 16:9 modes: max: 1920x1080 min: 720x400
API: OpenGL v: 4.6 Mesa 24.2.8-1mx23ahs renderer: AMD Radeon RX 550 Series (radeonsi polaris11
LLVM 15.0.6 DRM 3.49 6.1.0-37-amd64) direct-render: Yes
Audio:
Device-1: AMD Baffin HDMI/DP Audio [Radeon RX 550 640SP / 560/560X] vendor: XFX Pine
driver: snd_hda_intel v: kernel pcie: gen: 3 speed: 8 GT/s lanes: 8 bus-ID: 07:00.1
chip-ID: 1002:aae0 class-ID: 0403
Device-2: AMD Family 17h HD Audio vendor: Gigabyte driver: snd_hda_intel v: kernel pcie: gen: 3
speed: 8 GT/s lanes: 16 bus-ID: 09:00.3 chip-ID: 1022:1457 class-ID: 0403
API: ALSA v: k6.1.0-37-amd64 status: kernel-api tools: alsamixer,alsamixergui,amixer
Server-1: PipeWire v: 1.0.0 status: off with: 1: pipewire-pulse status: off 2: wireplumber
status: off 3: pw-jack type: plugin tools: pw-cat,pw-cli,wpctl
Server-2: PulseAudio v: 16.1 status: active tools: pacat,pactl,pavucontrol
Network:
Device-1: Realtek RTL8111/8168/8211/8411 PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet vendor: Gigabyte
driver: r8169 v: kernel pcie: gen: 1 speed: 2.5 GT/s lanes: 1 port: f000 bus-ID: 03:00.0
chip-ID: 10ec:8168 class-ID: 0200
IF: eth0 state: up speed: 1000 Mbps duplex: full mac: <filter>
IF-ID-1: wg0-mullvad state: unknown speed: N/A duplex: N/A mac: N/A
Drives:
Local Storage: total: 22.3 TiB used: 6.11 TiB (27.4%)
SMART Message: Unable to run smartctl. Root privileges required.
ID-1: /dev/nvme0n1 maj-min: 259:0 model: PCIe SSD size: 476.94 GiB block-size: physical: 512 B
logical: 512 B speed: 31.6 Gb/s lanes: 4 type: SSD serial: <filter> rev: ECFM22.9 temp: 27.9 C
scheme: GPT
ID-2: /dev/sda maj-min: 8:0 vendor: Samsung model: SSD 870 QVO 8TB size: 7.28 TiB block-size:
physical: 512 B logical: 512 B speed: 6.0 Gb/s type: SSD serial: <filter> rev: 2B6Q scheme: GPT
ID-3: /dev/sdb maj-min: 8:16 vendor: SanDisk model: ST8000DM004-2CX188 size: 7.28 TiB
block-size: physical: 4096 B logical: 512 B speed: 6.0 Gb/s type: HDD rpm: 5425 serial: <filter>
rev: 0001 scheme: GPT
ID-4: /dev/sdc maj-min: 8:32 vendor: HGST (Hitachi) model: HUS728T8TALE6L4 size: 7.28 TiB
block-size: physical: 4096 B logical: 512 B speed: 6.0 Gb/s type: HDD rpm: 7200 serial: <filter>
rev: W414 scheme: GPT
Partition:
ID-1: / raw-size: 475.68 GiB size: 467.14 GiB (98.21%) used: 49.01 GiB (10.5%) fs: ext4
dev: /dev/dm-0 maj-min: 253:0 mapped: luks-<filter>
ID-2: /boot raw-size: 1024 MiB size: 973.4 MiB (95.06%) used: 199.2 MiB (20.5%) fs: ext4
dev: /dev/nvme0n1p2 maj-min: 259:2
ID-3: /boot/efi raw-size: 250 MiB size: 246.1 MiB (98.46%) used: 415 KiB (0.2%) fs: vfat
dev: /dev/nvme0n1p1 maj-min: 259:1
ID-4: /home raw-size: 7.28 TiB size: 7.22 TiB (99.20%) used: 6.06 TiB (83.9%) fs: ext4
dev: /dev/dm-1 maj-min: 253:1 mapped: luks-<filter>
Swap:
Kernel: swappiness: 10 (default 60) cache-pressure: 100 (default)
ID-1: swap-1 type: file size: 28.39 GiB used: 0 KiB (0.0%) priority: -2 file: /swap/swap
Sensors:
System Temperatures: cpu: 48.1 C mobo: N/A gpu: amdgpu temp: 41.0 C
Fan Speeds (RPM): N/A gpu: amdgpu fan: 262
Repos:
Packages: 2619 pm: dpkg pkgs: 2598 libs: 1307
tools: apt,apt-get,aptitude,gnome-software,nala,synaptic pm: rpm pkgs: 0 pm: flatpak pkgs: 21
No active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list
No active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/brave-browser-release.list
Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian-stable-updates.list
1: deb https://deb.debian.org/debian/ bookworm-updates main contrib non-free non-free-firmware
Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian.list
1: deb https://deb.debian.org/debian/ bookworm main contrib non-free non-free-firmware
2: deb http://security.debian.org/debian-security bookworm-security main contrib non-free non-free-firmware
Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/google-chrome.list
1: deb [arch=amd64] https://dl.google.com/linux/chrome/deb/ stable main
Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/google-earth-pro.list
1: deb [arch=amd64] http://dl.google.com/linux/earth/deb/ stable main
Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/mx.list
1: deb http://ftp.osuosl.org/pub/mxlinux/mx/repo/ bookworm main non-free
Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/vivaldi.list
1: deb [arch=amd64] https://repo.vivaldi.com/stable/deb/ stable main
Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/extrepo_librewolf.sources
1: deb [arch=amd64 arm64] https://repo.librewolf.net librewolf main
Info:
Processes: 406 Uptime: 2d 4h 17m wakeups: 1 Memory: 23.39 GiB used: 5.93 GiB (25.3%)
Init: SysVinit v: 3.06 runlevel: 5 default: graphical tool: systemctl Compilers: gcc: 12.2.0
alt: 12 Client: shell wrapper v: 5.2.15-release inxi: 3.3.26
Boot Mode: UEFI
Re: Building new AMD machine-advice or comments
Posted: Thu Jul 10, 2025 7:42 am
by j2mcgreg
With a CPU that new, the AHS version is a must. Also be prepared to upgrade to a Liquorix kernel post install.
Re: Building new AMD machine-advice or comments
Posted: Thu Jul 10, 2025 9:37 am
by siamhie
entropyfoe wrote: Wed Jul 09, 2025 11:02 pm
My thinking is though the CPU is very new, the board is kind of last years model, so the Linux stuff should already be in the kernel.
Linux will pick up whatever the BIOS reports as far as the motherboard goes. Upgrade to the 6.12 kernel and the Mesa 24 series (AHS has this) graphics drivers for the onboard GPU.
You didn't mention networking. Are you going with wired or wireless?
Re: Building new AMD machine-advice or comments
Posted: Thu Jul 10, 2025 10:59 am
by entropyfoe
siamhie, I will be using the on board ethernet, wired. The board does have a wireless option, but that is a future option for me. I looked at the newer 870 boards, but read some recent comments/reviews that said there were driver problems with the on board eth0 and wireless, probably too new. So I went with the older B650 board. Is that MESA 24 needed for the new chip/integrated graphics?
Mauser, I already bought the Auus TUF, so I will have to roll the dice. The CPU pulls only 65W, so I am hoping for a cool system with long reliability. I did buy an upgraded cooler a Hyper 212 Evo, which I have used before, it is adequate for up to 150W CPUs, so it should keep this cool.
j2mcgreg, If I boot the live standard 23.6, and all works, is this going to be good on install? Is it worth a try? I can also have the AHS version on tap as a back-up. Do the AHS kernels update automatically with synaptic?
Or does this lock me into manual kernel upgrading?
Re: Building new AMD machine-advice or comments
Posted: Thu Jul 10, 2025 11:06 am
by siamhie
entropyfoe wrote: Thu Jul 10, 2025 10:59 am
siamhie, I will be using the on board ethernet, wired. The board does have a wireless option, but that is a future option for me. I looked at the newer 870 boards, but read some recent comments/reviews that said there were driver problems with the on board eth0 and wireless, probably too new. So I went with the older B650 board. Is that MESA 24 needed for the new chip/integrated graphics?
@entropyfoe The Mesa 24 package is for your onboard GPU. Search for mesa in MX Package Installer.
Re: Building new AMD machine-advice or comments
Posted: Thu Jul 10, 2025 11:32 am
by j2mcgreg
@entropyfoe wrote:
If I boot the live standard 23.6, and all works, is this going to be good on install? Is it worth a try? I can also have the AHS version on tap as a back-up. Do the AHS kernels update automatically with synaptic?
Or does this lock me into manual kernel upgrading?
If it works with the standard version, then you are good to go. However, there is ample evidence here in the forums that Ryzen based computers just run better with a Liquorix kernel and that means that you will need the AHS version in order to have them all available to install. IF you select the Liquorix 64 bit (AHS updates package) in MXPI. it will install the latest available Liquorix kernel and update it afterwards.
Re: Building new AMD machine-advice or comments
Posted: Thu Jul 10, 2025 12:32 pm
by jj 5117
@entropyfoe
There's no added trouble with using the Liquorix kernel. Selecting its auto-update will keep it fresh. It has Never caused me any problems--EVEN though once or twice a small weird thing might happen on a pushed kernel. In that VERY rare case, you can either work around it until the next kernel update OR select the PRIOR kernel from the GRUB menu. .... I've been very very happy with Liquorix auto updates. .... Experience is from this 2+1/2-ish year old machine:
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Snapshot created on: 20250619_1605
System:
Kernel: 6.14.10-2-liquorix-amd64 [6.14-13~mx23ahs] arch: x86_64 bits: 64 compiler: gcc v: 12.2.0 parameters: audit=0
intel_pstate=disable amd_pstate=disable BOOT_IMAGE=/vmlinuz-6.14.10-2-liquorix-amd64
root=UUID=<filter> ro no
Desktop: Xfce v: 4.20.0 tk: Gtk v: 3.24.38 info: xfce4-panel wm: xfwm v: 4.20.0 vt: 7 dm: SDDM
Distro: MX-23.6_ahs_x64 Libretto October 15 2023 base: Debian GNU/Linux 12 (bookworm)
Machine:
Type: Desktop System: ASUS product: N/A v: N/A serial: <superuser required>
Mobo: ASUSTeK model: ProArt X670E-CREATOR WIFI v: Rev 1.xx serial: <superuser required>
UEFI: American Megatrends v: 1904 date: 01/29/2024
CPU:
Info: model: AMD Ryzen 9 7950X3D bits: 64 type: MT MCP MCM arch: Zen 4 gen: 5 level: v4
note: check built: 2022+ process: TSMC n5 (5nm) family: 0x19 (25) model-id: 0x61 (97) stepping: 2
microcode: 0xA601206
Topology: cpus: 1x cores: 16 tpc: 2 threads: 32 dies: 2 smt: enabled cache: L1: 1024 KiB
desc: d-16x32 KiB; i-16x32 KiB L2: 16 MiB desc: 16x1024 KiB L3: 128 MiB desc: 1x32 MiB, 1x96 MiB
Speed (MHz): avg: 3054 high: 4200 min/max: 3000/4200 boost: enabled scaling:
driver: acpi-cpufreq governor: ondemand cores: 1: 3000 2: 2874 3: 3000 4: 4200 5: 2875 6: 3000
7: 2875 8: 3000 9: 3000 10: 3000 11: 3000 12: 3000 13: 3000 14: 2854 15: 2874 16: 3000 17: 3000
18: 3000 19: 3000 20: 3000 21: 3000 22: 3000 23: 3000 24: 3000 25: 3000 26: 3000 27: 3000
28: 3000 29: 3000 30: 3000 31: 3000 32: 4200 bogomips: 268307
Flags: avx avx2 ht lm nx pae sse sse2 sse3 sse4_1 sse4_2 sse4a ssse3 svm
Vulnerabilities:
Type: gather_data_sampling status: Not affected
Type: ghostwrite status: Not affected
Type: indirect_target_selection status: Not affected
Type: itlb_multihit status: Not affected
Type: l1tf status: Not affected
Type: mds status: Not affected
Type: meltdown status: Not affected
Type: mmio_stale_data status: Not affected
Type: old_microcode status: Not affected
Type: reg_file_data_sampling status: Not affected
Type: retbleed status: Not affected
Type: spec_rstack_overflow mitigation: Safe RET
Type: spec_store_bypass mitigation: Speculative Store Bypass disabled via prctl
Type: spectre_v1 mitigation: usercopy/swapgs barriers and __user pointer sanitization
Type: spectre_v2 mitigation: Enhanced / Automatic IBRS; IBPB: conditional; STIBP: always-on;
PBRSB-eIBRS: Not affected; BHI: Not affected
Type: srbds status: Not affected
Type: tsx_async_abort status: Not affected
Graphics:
Device-1: AMD Navi 32 [Radeon RX 7700 XT / 7800 XT] vendor: Sapphire driver: amdgpu v: kernel
pcie: gen: 4 speed: 16 GT/s lanes: 16 ports: active: DP-2 empty: DP-1, HDMI-A-1, HDMI-A-2,
Writeback-1 bus-ID: 03:00.0 chip-ID: 1002:747e class-ID: 0300
Device-2: AMD Raphael vendor: ASUSTeK driver: amdgpu v: kernel arch: RDNA-2 code: Navi-2x
process: TSMC n7 (7nm) built: 2020-22 pcie: gen: 4 speed: 16 GT/s lanes: 16 ports: active: none
empty: DP-3, DP-4, HDMI-A-3, Writeback-2 bus-ID: 6e:00.0 chip-ID: 1002:164e class-ID: 0300
temp: 44.0 C
Display: x11 server: X.Org v: 1.21.1.7 compositor: xfwm v: 4.20.0 driver: X: loaded: amdgpu
unloaded: fbdev,modesetting,radeon,vesa dri: radeonsi gpu: amdgpu display-ID: :0.0 screens: 1
Screen-1: 0 s-res: 2560x1440 s-dpi: 96 s-size: 678x382mm (26.69x15.04") s-diag: 778mm (30.64")
Monitor-1: DP-2 mapped: DisplayPort-1 model: Dell S3220DGF serial: <filter> built: 2020
res: 2560x1440 dpi: 93 gamma: 1.2 size: 697x392mm (27.44x15.43") diag: 806mm (31.7") ratio: 16:9
modes: max: 2560x1440 min: 720x400
API: OpenGL v: 4.6 Mesa 24.2.8-1mx23ahs renderer: AMD Radeon RX 7800 XT (radeonsi navi32 LLVM
15.0.6 DRM 3.61 6.14.10-2-liquorix-amd64) direct-render: Yes
Audio:
Device-1: AMD Navi 31 HDMI/DP Audio driver: snd_hda_intel v: kernel pcie: gen: 4 speed: 16 GT/s
lanes: 16 bus-ID: 03:00.1 chip-ID: 1002:ab30 class-ID: 0403
Device-2: AMD Rembrandt Radeon High Definition Audio vendor: ASUSTeK driver: snd_hda_intel
v: kernel pcie: gen: 4 speed: 16 GT/s lanes: 16 bus-ID: 6e:00.1 chip-ID: 1002:1640 class-ID: 0403
Device-3: AMD Family 17h/19h/1ah HD Audio vendor: ASUSTeK driver: snd_hda_intel v: kernel pcie:
gen: 4 speed: 16 GT/s lanes: 16 bus-ID: 6e:00.6 chip-ID: 1022:15e3 class-ID: 0403
API: ALSA v: k6.14.10-2-liquorix-amd64 status: kernel-api tools: alsamixer,amixer
Server-1: PipeWire v: 1.0.0 status: active with: 1: pipewire-pulse status: active
2: wireplumber status: active 3: pipewire-alsa type: plugin 4: pw-jack type: plugin
tools: pactl,pw-cat,pw-cli,wpctl
Network:
Device-1: Intel Ethernet I225-V vendor: ASUSTeK driver: igc v: kernel pcie: gen: 2 speed: 5 GT/s
lanes: 1 port: N/A bus-ID: 0a:00.0 chip-ID: 8086:15f3 class-ID: 0200
IF: eth1 state: up speed: 1000 Mbps duplex: full mac: <filter>
Device-2: Aquantia AQtion AQC113CS NBase-T/IEEE 802.3an Ethernet [Antigua 10G] vendor: ASUSTeK
ProArt X570-CREATOR WIFI driver: atlantic v: kernel pcie: gen: 4 speed: 16 GT/s lanes: 1
link-max: lanes: 2 port: N/A bus-ID: 0b:00.0 chip-ID: 1d6a:94c0 class-ID: 0200
IF: eth0 state: down mac: <filter>
IF-ID-1: nordtun state: unknown speed: 10000 Mbps duplex: full mac: N/A
Drives:
Local Storage: total: 12.87 TiB used: 1.41 TiB (11.0%)
SMART Message: Unable to run smartctl. Root privileges required.
ID-1: /dev/nvme0n1 maj-min: 259:3 vendor: TeamGroup model: TM8FPW004T size: 3.73 TiB
block-size: physical: 512 B logical: 512 B speed: 63.2 Gb/s lanes: 4 type: SSD serial: <filter>
rev: SN12717 temp: 41.9 C scheme: GPT
ID-2: /dev/nvme1n1 maj-min: 259:0 vendor: Western Digital model: WD BLACK SN770 2TB
size: 1.82 TiB block-size: physical: 512 B logical: 512 B speed: 63.2 Gb/s lanes: 4 type: SSD
serial: <filter> rev: 731100WD temp: 40.9 C scheme: GPT
ID-3: /dev/sda maj-min: 8:0 vendor: TeamGroup model: T-FORCE 2TB size: 1.86 TiB block-size:
physical: 512 B logical: 512 B speed: 6.0 Gb/s type: SSD serial: <filter> rev: 0A0 scheme: MBR
ID-4: /dev/sdb maj-min: 8:16 type: USB vendor: SanDisk model: Extreme 55AE size: 1.82 TiB
block-size: physical: 512 B logical: 512 B type: N/A serial: <filter> rev: 3001 scheme: GPT
SMART Message: Unknown USB bridge. Flash drive/Unsupported enclosure?
ID-5: /dev/sdc maj-min: 8:32 type: USB vendor: Samsung model: PSSD T7 Shield size: 3.64 TiB
block-size: physical: 512 B logical: 512 B type: SSD serial: <filter> scheme: GPT
SMART Message: Unknown USB bridge. Flash drive/Unsupported enclosure?
Partition:
ID-1: / raw-size: 249.98 GiB size: 245 GiB (98.01%) used: 111.2 GiB (45.4%) fs: ext4
dev: /dev/dm-0 maj-min: 253:0 mapped: luks-<filter>
ID-2: /boot raw-size: 1024 MiB size: 973.4 MiB (95.06%) used: 556 MiB (57.1%) fs: ext4
dev: /dev/nvme0n1p2 maj-min: 259:5
ID-3: /boot/efi raw-size: 512 MiB size: 511 MiB (99.80%) used: 44.3 MiB (8.7%) fs: vfat
dev: /dev/nvme0n1p1 maj-min: 259:4
Swap:
Kernel: swappiness: 10 (default 60) cache-pressure: 50 (default 100)
ID-1: swap-1 type: file size: 4 GiB used: 0 KiB (0.0%) priority: -2 file: /swapfile
Sensors:
System Temperatures: cpu: 49.0 C mobo: 36.0 C
Fan Speeds (RPM): N/A
GPU: device: amdgpu temp: 44.0 C device: amdgpu temp: 52.0 C mem: 69.0 C fan: 87 watts: 20.00
Repos:
Packages: pm: dpkg pkgs: 3011 libs: 1590 tools: apt,apt-get,aptitude,nala,synaptic pm: rpm
pkgs: 0 pm: flatpak pkgs: 0
No active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list
No active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/amdgpu-proprietary.list
Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/amdgpu.list
1: deb https://repo.radeon.com/amdgpu/5.7.2/ubuntu focal main
Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/brave-browser-release.list
1: deb [arch=amd64] https://brave-browser-apt-release.s3.brave.com/ stable main
Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian-stable-updates.list
1: deb http://deb.debian.org/debian bookworm-updates main contrib non-free non-free-firmware
Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian.list
1: deb http://deb.debian.org/debian bookworm main contrib non-free non-free-firmware
2: deb http://security.debian.org/debian-security bookworm-security main contrib non-free non-free-firmware
Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/mx.list
1: deb http://la.mxrepo.com/mx/repo/ bookworm main non-free
2: deb http://la.mxrepo.com/mx/repo/ bookworm ahs
Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/nordvpn.list
1: deb https://repo.nordvpn.com/deb/nordvpn/debian stable main
Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/rocm.list
1: deb [arch=amd64] https://repo.radeon.com/rocm/apt/5.7.2 focal main
Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/extrepo_librewolf.sources
1: deb [arch=amd64 arm64] https://repo.librewolf.net librewolf main
Info:
Processes: 676 Uptime: 53m wakeups: 1 Memory: 125.01 GiB used: 3.42 GiB (2.7%) Init: SysVinit
v: 3.06 runlevel: 5 default: graphical tool: systemctl Compilers: gcc: 12.2.0 alt: 12
Client: shell wrapper v: 5.2.15-release inxi: 3.3.26
Boot Mode: UEFI
Good Luck for a Smooth Build.
Re: Building new AMD machine-advice or comments
Posted: Thu Jul 10, 2025 6:34 pm
by m_pav
@entropyfoe I'm adding a +1 for the AHS version, though I'm in a different camp as to having an auto updating kernel, I update mine manually as I see fit, probably every 2-3 months and it lowers maintenance by not having to trim them back to save space in the FEI boot partition.
I run AHS on most everything I own or provision for others, some of which run our KDE version. I get the occasional lockup on my Mancave PC, but that's because I hammer it way more than any of the others.
Re: Building new AMD machine-advice or comments
Posted: Thu Jul 10, 2025 7:21 pm
by j2mcgreg
m_pav wrote: Thu Jul 10, 2025 6:34 pm
@entropyfoe I'm adding a +1 for the AHS version, though I'm in a different camp as to having an auto updating kernel, I update mine manually as I see fit, probably every 2-3 months and it lowers maintenance by not having to trim them back to save space in the FEI boot partition.
I run AHS on most everything I own or provision for others, some of which run our KDE version. I get the occasional lockup on my Mancave PC, but that's because I hammer it way more than any of the others.
I agree with you about not auto-updating a kernel. I only update mine after seeing positive reports about the new versions and if I see a definite benefit in doing so. However, the OP asked about the possibility and I gave him the how to.
Re: Building new AMD machine-advice or comments
Posted: Thu Jul 17, 2025 9:14 am
by entropyfoe
The machine is now assembled and running !
Late night last night, but finally all is working.
The mechanical assembly was easier than I thought.
But ran into booting problems....
I went with the stock MX 23.5 I had on a stick. What a hassle, Asus and Microsoft are making it harder for Linux guys.
The live USB ran fine, but after installation, no bootable device could be found, despite it being there, and attempting a grub repair.
Googling from the live session, it appears that I need the CSM enabled in the BIOS, but it cannot be enabled with the integrated graphics (on my AMD machine, and apparently on Intel integrated graphics also. [I will research deeper into this, but for now I got it working.]
So, I installed the old nvidia card again, and then it booted after I enabled CSM, Boot device control = UEFI+ legacy OPRM, and booting from UEFI only -> Legacy.
A 7 minute install, ran all the synaptic upgrades.
I ran the uip tool, again appreciation of how useful this little tool is ! All installed programs are back.
Ran the Memtest 86, 5 hours last night , no errors.
Now to transfer all my data back onto the data drives.
So far, very fast, no problems detected yet.
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System:
Kernel: 6.1.0-37-amd64 [6.1.140-1] arch: x86_64 bits: 64 compiler: gcc v: 12.2.0
parameters: BOOT_IMAGE=/boot/vmlinuz-6.1.0-37-amd64 root=UUID=<filter> ro quiet splash
Desktop: Xfce v: 4.20.0 tk: Gtk v: 3.24.38 info: xfce4-panel wm: xfwm v: 4.20.0 vt: 7
dm: LightDM v: 1.32.0 Distro: MX-23.6_x64 Libretto Jan 12 2025 base: Debian GNU/Linux 12
(bookworm)
Machine:
Type: Desktop System: ASUS product: N/A v: N/A serial: <superuser required>
Mobo: ASUSTeK model: PRIME B650-PLUS WIFI v: Rev 1.xx serial: <superuser required>
BIOS: American Megatrends v: 3057 date: 10/29/2024
CPU:
Info: model: AMD Ryzen 7 9700X bits: 64 type: MT MCP arch: N/A level: v4 note: check
family: 0x1A (26) model-id: 0x44 (68) stepping: 0 microcode: 0xB404023
Topology: cpus: 1x cores: 8 tpc: 2 threads: 16 smt: enabled cache: L1: 640 KiB
desc: d-8x48 KiB; i-8x32 KiB L2: 8 MiB desc: 8x1024 KiB L3: 32 MiB desc: 1x32 MiB
Speed (MHz): avg: 3006 high: 3050 min/max: 3000/3800 boost: enabled scaling:
driver: acpi-cpufreq governor: ondemand cores: 1: 3000 2: 3000 3: 3000 4: 3000 5: 3000 6: 3000
7: 3050 8: 3000 9: 3000 10: 3000 11: 3000 12: 3049 13: 3000 14: 3000 15: 3000 16: 3000
bogomips: 121599
Flags: avx avx2 ht lm nx pae sse sse2 sse3 sse4_1 sse4_2 sse4a ssse3 svm
Vulnerabilities:
Type: gather_data_sampling status: Not affected
Type: indirect_target_selection status: Not affected
Type: itlb_multihit status: Not affected
Type: l1tf status: Not affected
Type: mds status: Not affected
Type: meltdown status: Not affected
Type: mmio_stale_data status: Not affected
Type: reg_file_data_sampling status: Not affected
Type: retbleed status: Not affected
Type: spec_rstack_overflow status: Not affected
Type: spec_store_bypass mitigation: Speculative Store Bypass disabled via prctl
Type: spectre_v1 mitigation: usercopy/swapgs barriers and __user pointer sanitization
Type: spectre_v2 mitigation: Enhanced / Automatic IBRS; IBPB: conditional; STIBP: always-on;
PBRSB-eIBRS: Not affected; BHI: Not affected
Type: srbds status: Not affected
Type: tsx_async_abort status: Not affected
Graphics:
Device-1: NVIDIA GK208B [GeForce GT 710] vendor: Micro-Star MSI driver: nvidia v: 470.256.02
non-free: series: 470.xx+ status: legacy-active (EOL~2023/24) arch: Fermi 2 code: GF119/GK208
process: TSMC 28nm built: 2010-16 pcie: gen: 2 speed: 5 GT/s lanes: 8 bus-ID: 01:00.0
chip-ID: 10de:128b class-ID: 0300
Display: x11 server: X.Org v: 1.21.1.7 compositors: 1: xfwm v: 4.20.0 2: Compton v: 1 driver:
X: loaded: nvidia unloaded: fbdev,modesetting,nouveau,vesa alternate: nv gpu: nvidia
display-ID: :0.0 screens: 1
Screen-1: 0 s-res: 1920x1080 s-dpi: 96 s-size: 509x286mm (20.04x11.26") s-diag: 584mm (22.99")
Monitor-1: HDMI-0 res: 1920x1080 hz: 60 dpi: 96 size: 509x286mm (20.04x11.26")
diag: 584mm (22.99") modes: N/A
API: OpenGL v: 4.6.0 NVIDIA 470.256.02 renderer: NVIDIA GeForce GT 710/PCIe/SSE2
direct-render: Yes
Audio:
Device-1: NVIDIA GK208 HDMI/DP Audio vendor: Micro-Star MSI driver: snd_hda_intel v: kernel pcie:
gen: 2 speed: 5 GT/s lanes: 8 bus-ID: 01:00.1 chip-ID: 10de:0e0f class-ID: 0403
Device-2: AMD Family 17h/19h HD Audio vendor: ASUSTeK driver: snd_hda_intel v: kernel pcie:
gen: 4 speed: 16 GT/s lanes: 16 bus-ID: 0d:00.6 chip-ID: 1022:15e3 class-ID: 0403
API: ALSA v: k6.1.0-37-amd64 status: kernel-api tools: alsamixer,amixer
Server-1: PipeWire v: 1.0.0 status: active with: 1: pipewire-pulse status: active
2: wireplumber status: active 3: pipewire-alsa type: plugin 4: pw-jack type: plugin
tools: pactl,pw-cat,pw-cli,wpctl
Network:
Device-1: Realtek RTL8125 2.5GbE vendor: ASUSTeK driver: r8169 v: kernel pcie: gen: 2
speed: 5 GT/s lanes: 1 port: e000 bus-ID: 08:00.0 chip-ID: 10ec:8125 class-ID: 0200
IF: eth0 state: up speed: 1000 Mbps duplex: full mac: <filter>
Device-2: MEDIATEK MT7922 802.11ax PCI Express Wireless Network Adapter vendor: Foxconn
driver: mt7921e v: kernel modules: wl pcie: gen: 2 speed: 5 GT/s lanes: 1 bus-ID: 09:00.0
chip-ID: 14c3:0616 class-ID: 0280
IF: wlan0 state: down mac: <filter>
Bluetooth:
Device-1: Foxconn / Hon Hai Wireless_Device type: USB driver: btusb v: 0.8 bus-ID: 1-8:3
chip-ID: 0489:e0e2 class-ID: e001 serial: <filter>
Report: hciconfig ID: hci0 rfk-id: 0 state: down bt-service: N/A rfk-block: hardware: no
software: no address: <filter>
Info: acl-mtu: 1021:6 sco-mtu: 240:8 link-policy: rswitch sniff link-mode: peripheral accept
Drives:
Local Storage: total: 5.46 TiB used: 541.74 GiB (9.7%)
SMART Message: Unable to run smartctl. Root privileges required.
ID-1: /dev/nvme0n1 maj-min: 259:0 vendor: Samsung model: SSD 980 PRO 1TB size: 931.51 GiB
block-size: physical: 512 B logical: 512 B speed: 63.2 Gb/s lanes: 4 type: SSD serial: <filter>
rev: 5B2QGXA7 temp: 31.9 C scheme: MBR
ID-2: /dev/nvme1n1 maj-min: 259:5 vendor: Samsung model: SSD 990 EVO Plus 2TB size: 1.82 TiB
block-size: physical: 512 B logical: 512 B speed: 63.2 Gb/s lanes: 4 type: SSD serial: <filter>
rev: 2B2QKXG7 temp: 30.9 C scheme: MBR
ID-3: /dev/sda maj-min: 8:0 vendor: Samsung model: SSD 850 EVO 1TB size: 931.51 GiB block-size:
physical: 512 B logical: 512 B speed: 6.0 Gb/s type: SSD serial: <filter> rev: 3B6Q scheme: MBR
ID-4: /dev/sdb maj-min: 8:16 vendor: Samsung model: SSD 870 EVO 2TB size: 1.82 TiB block-size:
physical: 512 B logical: 512 B speed: 6.0 Gb/s type: SSD serial: <filter> rev: 3B6Q scheme: MBR
Partition:
ID-1: / raw-size: 48.83 GiB size: 47.76 GiB (97.81%) used: 10.42 GiB (21.8%) fs: ext4
dev: /dev/nvme0n1p1 maj-min: 259:1
ID-2: /home raw-size: 390.62 GiB size: 383.43 GiB (98.16%) used: 107.7 MiB (0.0%) fs: ext4
dev: /dev/nvme0n1p3 maj-min: 259:3
Swap:
Kernel: swappiness: 1 (default 60) cache-pressure: 100 (default)
ID-1: swap-1 type: partition size: 64.45 GiB used: 0 KiB (0.0%) priority: -2
dev: /dev/nvme0n1p2 maj-min: 259:2
Sensors:
System Temperatures: cpu: 0.0 C mobo: N/A gpu: nvidia temp: 44 C
Fan Speeds (RPM): N/A gpu: nvidia fan: 50%
Repos:
Packages: pm: dpkg pkgs: 2514 libs: 1376 tools: apt,apt-get,aptitude,nala,synaptic pm: rpm
pkgs: 0 pm: flatpak pkgs: 0
No active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list
Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian-stable-updates.list
1: deb http://deb.debian.org/debian bookworm-updates main contrib non-free non-free-firmware
Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian.list
1: deb http://deb.debian.org/debian bookworm main contrib non-free non-free-firmware
2: deb http://security.debian.org/debian-security bookworm-security main contrib non-free non-free-firmware
Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/mx.list
1: deb http://mirror.math.princeton.edu/pub/mxlinux/mx/repo/ bookworm main non-free
Info:
Processes: 321 Uptime: 13m wakeups: 1 Memory: 62.44 GiB used: 2.24 GiB (3.6%) Init: SysVinit
v: 3.06 runlevel: 5 default: graphical tool: systemctl Compilers: gcc: 12.2.0 alt: 12
Client: shell wrapper v: 5.2.15-release inxi: 3.3.26
Boot Mode: BIOS (legacy, CSM, MBR)
Re: Building new AMD machine-advice or comments
Posted: Thu Jul 17, 2025 4:01 pm
by txm0523
Here is my home built PC specs. AMD CPU and AMD Video Graphics card. This system has been stable and purrs like a kitten.
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System:
Kernel: 6.8.12-amd64 [6.8.12-1~mx23ahs] arch: x86_64 bits: 64 compiler: N/A
parameters: BOOT_IMAGE=/boot/vmlinuz-6.8.12-amd64 root=UUID=<filter> ro quiet splash
Desktop: KDE Plasma v: 5.27.5 wm: kwin_x11 vt: 7 dm: SDDM Distro: MX-23.6_KDE_x64 Libretto
September 15 2024 base: Debian GNU/Linux 12 (bookworm)
Machine:
Type: Desktop System: ASUS product: N/A v: N/A serial: <superuser required>
Mobo: ASUSTeK model: PRIME B450M-A II v: Rev X.0x serial: <superuser required>
UEFI: American Megatrends v: 4202 date: 06/16/2023
CPU:
Info: model: AMD Ryzen 5 3600 bits: 64 type: MT MCP arch: Zen 2 gen: 3 level: v3 note: check
built: 2020-22 process: TSMC n7 (7nm) family: 0x17 (23) model-id: 0x71 (113) stepping: 0
microcode: 0x8701030
Topology: cpus: 1x cores: 6 tpc: 2 threads: 12 smt: enabled cache: L1: 384 KiB
desc: d-6x32 KiB; i-6x32 KiB L2: 3 MiB desc: 6x512 KiB L3: 32 MiB desc: 2x16 MiB
Speed (MHz): avg: 2304 high: 3600 min/max: 2200/4208 boost: enabled scaling:
driver: acpi-cpufreq governor: schedutil cores: 1: 2200 2: 3600 3: 2053 4: 2200 5: 2200 6: 2200
7: 2200 8: 2200 9: 2200 10: 2200 11: 2200 12: 2200 bogomips: 86238
Flags: avx avx2 ht lm nx pae sse sse2 sse3 sse4_1 sse4_2 sse4a ssse3
Vulnerabilities:
Type: gather_data_sampling status: Not affected
Type: itlb_multihit status: Not affected
Type: l1tf status: Not affected
Type: mds status: Not affected
Type: meltdown status: Not affected
Type: mmio_stale_data status: Not affected
Type: reg_file_data_sampling status: Not affected
Type: retbleed mitigation: untrained return thunk; SMT enabled with STIBP protection
Type: spec_rstack_overflow mitigation: Safe RET
Type: spec_store_bypass mitigation: Speculative Store Bypass disabled via prctl
Type: spectre_v1 mitigation: usercopy/swapgs barriers and __user pointer sanitization
Type: spectre_v2 mitigation: Retpolines; IBPB: conditional; STIBP: always-on; RSB filling;
PBRSB-eIBRS: Not affected; BHI: Not affected
Type: srbds status: Not affected
Type: tsx_async_abort status: Not affected
Graphics:
Device-1: AMD Lexa PRO [Radeon 540/540X/550/550X / RX 540X/550/550X] driver: amdgpu v: kernel
arch: GCN-4 code: Arctic Islands process: GF 14nm built: 2016-20 pcie: gen: 3 speed: 8 GT/s
lanes: 8 ports: active: HDMI-A-1 empty: DP-1,DVI-D-1 bus-ID: 08:00.0 chip-ID: 1002:699f
class-ID: 0300 temp: 50.0 C
Device-2: Creative VF0415 Live! Cam Vid. IM Ultra type: USB driver: snd-usb-audio,uvcvideo
bus-ID: 1-1:2 chip-ID: 041e:4071 class-ID: 0102
Display: x11 server: X.Org v: 1.21.1.7 with: Xwayland v: 22.1.9 compositor: kwin_x11 driver: X:
loaded: amdgpu unloaded: fbdev,modesetting,radeon,vesa dri: radeonsi gpu: amdgpu display-ID: :0
screens: 1
Screen-1: 0 s-res: 1920x1080 s-dpi: 96 s-size: 508x285mm (20.00x11.22") s-diag: 582mm (22.93")
Monitor-1: HDMI-A-1 mapped: HDMI-A-0 model: Samsung LS32B30 serial: <filter> built: 2022
res: 1920x1080 dpi: 70 gamma: 1.2 size: 698x393mm (27.48x15.47") diag: 184mm (7.2")
ratio: 16:9, 16:10 modes: max: 1920x1080 min: 720x400
API: OpenGL v: 4.6 Mesa 24.2.8-1~bpo12+1 renderer: AMD Radeon RX 550 / 550 Series (radeonsi
polaris12 LLVM 15.0.6 DRM 3.57 6.8.12-amd64) direct-render: Yes
Audio:
Device-1: AMD Baffin HDMI/DP Audio [Radeon RX 550 640SP / 560/560X] driver: snd_hda_intel
v: kernel pcie: bus-ID: 1-1:2 chip-ID: 041e:4071 gen: 3 class-ID: 0102 speed: 8 GT/s lanes: 8
bus-ID: 08:00.1 chip-ID: 1002:aae0 class-ID: 0403
Device-2: AMD Starship/Matisse HD Audio vendor: ASUSTeK driver: snd_hda_intel v: kernel pcie:
gen: 4 speed: 16 GT/s lanes: 16 bus-ID: 0a:00.4 chip-ID: 1022:1487 class-ID: 0403
Device-3: Creative VF0415 Live! Cam Vid. IM Ultra type: USB driver: snd-usb-audio,uvcvideo
API: ALSA v: k6.8.12-amd64 status: kernel-api tools: alsamixer,amixer
Server-1: PipeWire v: 1.0.0 status: off with: 1: pipewire-pulse status: off 2: wireplumber
status: off tools: pw-cat,pw-cli,wpctl
Server-2: PulseAudio v: 16.1 status: active tools: pacat,pactl,pavucontrol
Network:
Device-1: Realtek RTL8125 2.5GbE driver: r8169 v: kernel pcie: gen: 2 speed: 5 GT/s lanes: 1
port: e000 bus-ID: 06:00.0 chip-ID: 10ec:8125 class-ID: 0200
IF: eth0 state: down mac: <filter>
Device-2: Realtek RTL8111/8168/8411 PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet vendor: ASUSTeK PRIME B450M-A
driver: r8169 v: kernel pcie: gen: 1 speed: 2.5 GT/s lanes: 1 port: d000 bus-ID: 07:00.0
chip-ID: 10ec:8168 class-ID: 0200
IF: eth1 state: down mac: <filter>
Device-3: MediaTek WiFi type: USB driver: mt76x0u bus-ID: 3-2:2 chip-ID: 0e8d:7610
class-ID: 0000 serial: <filter>
IF: wlan0 state: up mac: <filter>
Drives:
Local Storage: total: 465.76 GiB used: 101.64 GiB (21.8%)
SMART Message: Unable to run smartctl. Root privileges required.
ID-1: /dev/sda maj-min: 8:0 vendor: Samsung model: SSD 870 EVO 500GB size: 465.76 GiB
block-size: physical: 512 B logical: 512 B speed: 6.0 Gb/s type: SSD serial: <filter> rev: 2B6Q
scheme: MBR
Partition:
ID-1: / raw-size: 465.51 GiB size: 457.13 GiB (98.20%) used: 101.64 GiB (22.2%) fs: ext4
dev: /dev/sda2 maj-min: 8:2
ID-2: /boot/efi raw-size: 256 MiB size: 252 MiB (98.46%) used: 274 KiB (0.1%) fs: vfat
dev: /dev/sda1 maj-min: 8:1
Swap:
Kernel: swappiness: 15 (default 60) cache-pressure: 100 (default)
ID-1: swap-1 type: file size: 4 GiB used: 0 KiB (0.0%) priority: -2 file: /swap/swap
Sensors:
System Temperatures: cpu: 38.8 C mobo: N/A gpu: amdgpu temp: 49.0 C
Fan Speeds (RPM): N/A
Repos:
Packages: 3144 pm: dpkg pkgs: 3137 libs: 1773 tools: apt,apt-get,aptitude,nala,synaptic pm: rpm
pkgs: 0 pm: flatpak pkgs: 7
No active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list
Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/brave-browser-release.list
1: deb [arch=amd64 signed-by=/usr/share/keyrings/brave-browser-archive-keyring.gpg] https://brave-browser-apt-release.s3.brave.com/ stable main
Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian-stable-updates.list
1: deb http://deb.debian.org/debian/ bookworm-updates main contrib non-free non-free-firmware
Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian.list
1: deb http://deb.debian.org/debian/ bookworm non-free-firmware non-free contrib main
2: deb http://security.debian.org/debian-security/ bookworm-security main contrib non-free non-free-firmware
Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/mx.list
1: deb http://mirror.math.princeton.edu/pub/mxlinux/mx/repo/ bookworm non-free main
Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/teamviewer.list
1: deb [signed-by=/usr/share/keyrings/teamviewer-keyring.gpg] https://linux.teamviewer.com/deb/ stable main
Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/extrepo_librewolf.sources
1: deb [arch=amd64 arm64] https://repo.librewolf.net librewolf main
Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/winehq-bookworm.sources
1: deb [arch=amd64 i386] https://dl.winehq.org/wine-builds/debian bookworm main
Info:
Processes: 312 Uptime: 55m wakeups: 1 Memory: 15.5 GiB used: 3.17 GiB (20.5%) Init: SysVinit
v: 3.06 runlevel: 5 default: graphical tool: systemctl Compilers: gcc: 12.2.0 alt: 12
Client: shell wrapper v: 5.2.15-release inxi: 3.3.26
Boot Mode: UEFI
Re: new AMD machine-results and status
Posted: Tue Jul 29, 2025 8:42 pm
by entropyfoe
SO, counting the multiple reboots normal to a new install, I have >12 days of absolute stability. Class III. As I coined back in the old windows days, a scale:
class I stability= 1 day (24 hrs) uptime, heavy use, reboots, sleeps, massive database work, massive TB of data transfers, firefox, multiple windows, hundreds of tabs, stockfish with 14 threads, take all synaptic upgrades, all with no forced reboots, OS crashes, or GUI lock-ups. Application fails are allowed as long as no data is lost.
class II stability = 3 days uptime ....
class III stability =10 days...
class IV stability= 40 days..
In later years , with MX, I have also seen a Class IV+ = triple digit up times, admittedly, these are often with much sleep mode.,,but easy to do with reliable power, and solid hardware, and rock solid software like Debian stable LTS and MX. That in combination with my desire, a computer as an appliance, [ would you wait to boot your toaster or washer?], it goes from sleep mode, zero power used, to full on in 7-8 seconds, almost appliance like !
So, here the new AMD system has easily attained class 3 stability. The usual formula, AMD CPU 9700X, Asus MB (prime B650). Crucial RAM 64GB, Samsung SSD. All are working fast and flawlessly so far. So, the MX base model 23.6 works great, except for the CPU temperature, where I can't get the sensor with sensors detect. I will investigate if a BIOS update can offer any fix. I tried the AHS, but had trouble with the nvidia install, and some glitches. So, since the stock 23.6 works, I go with it, I can't justify the time trouble-shooting. Even with the latest AMD chip, I still have a fairly old MB, so I think this is expected.
I have seen the CPU freq in conky flash for moments at 5500 MHz
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System:
Kernel: 6.1.0-37-amd64 [6.1.140-1] arch: x86_64 bits: 64 compiler: gcc v: 12.2.0
parameters: BOOT_IMAGE=/boot/vmlinuz-6.1.0-37-amd64 root=UUID=<filter> ro quiet splash
Desktop: Xfce v: 4.20.0 tk: Gtk v: 3.24.38 info: xfce4-panel wm: xfwm v: 4.20.0 vt: 7
dm: LightDM v: 1.32.0 Distro: MX-23.6_x64 Libretto Jan 12 2025 base: Debian GNU/Linux 12
(bookworm)
Machine:
Type: Desktop System: ASUS product: N/A v: N/A serial: <superuser required>
Mobo: ASUSTeK model: PRIME B650-PLUS WIFI v: Rev 1.xx serial: <superuser required>
BIOS: American Megatrends v: 3057 date: 10/29/2024
CPU:
Info: model: AMD Ryzen 7 9700X bits: 64 type: MT MCP arch: N/A level: v4 note: check
family: 0x1A (26) model-id: 0x44 (68) stepping: 0 microcode: 0xB404023
Topology: cpus: 1x cores: 8 tpc: 2 threads: 16 smt: enabled cache: L1: 640 KiB
desc: d-8x48 KiB; i-8x32 KiB L2: 8 MiB desc: 8x1024 KiB L3: 32 MiB desc: 1x32 MiB
Speed (MHz): avg: 4470 high: 4476 min/max: 3000/3800 boost: enabled scaling:
driver: acpi-cpufreq governor: ondemand cores: 1: 4470 2: 4470 3: 4470 4: 4476 5: 4470 6: 4470
7: 4471 8: 4470 9: 4470 10: 4470 11: 4470 12: 4470 13: 4470 14: 4472 15: 4471 16: 4470
bogomips: 121605
Flags: avx avx2 ht lm nx pae sse sse2 sse3 sse4_1 sse4_2 sse4a ssse3 svm
Vulnerabilities:
Type: gather_data_sampling status: Not affected
Type: indirect_target_selection status: Not affected
Type: itlb_multihit status: Not affected
Type: l1tf status: Not affected
Type: mds status: Not affected
Type: meltdown status: Not affected
Type: mmio_stale_data status: Not affected
Type: reg_file_data_sampling status: Not affected
Type: retbleed status: Not affected
Type: spec_rstack_overflow status: Not affected
Type: spec_store_bypass mitigation: Speculative Store Bypass disabled via prctl
Type: spectre_v1 mitigation: usercopy/swapgs barriers and __user pointer sanitization
Type: spectre_v2 mitigation: Enhanced / Automatic IBRS; IBPB: conditional; STIBP: always-on;
PBRSB-eIBRS: Not affected; BHI: Not affected
Type: srbds status: Not affected
Type: tsx_async_abort status: Not affected
Graphics:
Device-1: NVIDIA GK208B [GeForce GT 710] vendor: Micro-Star MSI driver: nvidia v: 470.256.02
non-free: series: 470.xx+ status: legacy-active (EOL~2023/24) arch: Fermi 2 code: GF119/GK208
process: TSMC 28nm built: 2010-16 pcie: gen: 1 speed: 2.5 GT/s lanes: 8 link-max: gen: 2
speed: 5 GT/s bus-ID: 01:00.0 chip-ID: 10de:128b class-ID: 0300
Display: x11 server: X.Org v: 1.21.1.7 compositors: 1: xfwm v: 4.20.0 2: Compton v: 1 driver:
X: loaded: nvidia unloaded: fbdev,modesetting,nouveau,vesa alternate: nv gpu: nvidia
display-ID: :0.0 screens: 1
Screen-1: 0 s-res: 1920x1080 s-dpi: 96 s-size: 509x286mm (20.04x11.26") s-diag: 584mm (22.99")
Monitor-1: HDMI-0 res: 1920x1080 hz: 60 dpi: 96 size: 509x286mm (20.04x11.26")
diag: 584mm (22.99") modes: N/A
API: OpenGL v: 4.6.0 NVIDIA 470.256.02 renderer: NVIDIA GeForce GT 710/PCIe/SSE2
direct-render: Yes
Audio:
Device-1: NVIDIA GK208 HDMI/DP Audio vendor: Micro-Star MSI driver: snd_hda_intel v: kernel pcie:
gen: 2 speed: 5 GT/s lanes: 8 bus-ID: 01:00.1 chip-ID: 10de:0e0f class-ID: 0403
Device-2: AMD Family 17h/19h HD Audio vendor: ASUSTeK driver: snd_hda_intel v: kernel pcie:
gen: 4 speed: 16 GT/s lanes: 16 bus-ID: 0d:00.6 chip-ID: 1022:15e3 class-ID: 0403
API: ALSA v: k6.1.0-37-amd64 status: kernel-api tools: alsamixer,amixer
Server-1: PipeWire v: 1.0.0 status: active with: 1: pipewire-pulse status: active
2: wireplumber status: active 3: pipewire-alsa type: plugin 4: pw-jack type: plugin
tools: pactl,pw-cat,pw-cli,wpctl
Network:
Device-1: Realtek RTL8125 2.5GbE vendor: ASUSTeK driver: r8169 v: kernel pcie: gen: 2
speed: 5 GT/s lanes: 1 port: e000 bus-ID: 08:00.0 chip-ID: 10ec:8125 class-ID: 0200
IF: eth0 state: up speed: 1000 Mbps duplex: full mac: <filter>
Device-2: MEDIATEK MT7922 802.11ax PCI Express Wireless Network Adapter vendor: Foxconn
driver: mt7921e v: kernel modules: wl pcie: gen: 2 speed: 5 GT/s lanes: 1 bus-ID: 09:00.0
chip-ID: 14c3:0616 class-ID: 0280
IF: wlan0 state: down mac: <filter>
Bluetooth:
Device-1: Foxconn / Hon Hai Wireless_Device type: USB driver: btusb v: 0.8 bus-ID: 1-8:3
chip-ID: 0489:e0e2 class-ID: e001 serial: <filter>
Report: hciconfig ID: hci0 rfk-id: 9 state: down bt-service: N/A rfk-block: hardware: no
software: no address: <filter>
Info: acl-mtu: 1021:6 sco-mtu: 240:8 link-policy: rswitch sniff link-mode: peripheral accept
Drives:
Local Storage: total: 5.46 TiB used: 964.34 GiB (17.3%)
SMART Message: Unable to run smartctl. Root privileges required.
ID-1: /dev/nvme0n1 maj-min: 259:0 vendor: Samsung model: SSD 980 PRO 1TB size: 931.51 GiB
block-size: physical: 512 B logical: 512 B speed: 63.2 Gb/s lanes: 4 type: SSD serial: <filter>
rev: 5B2QGXA7 temp: 28.9 C scheme: MBR
ID-2: /dev/nvme1n1 maj-min: 259:5 vendor: Samsung model: SSD 990 EVO Plus 2TB size: 1.82 TiB
block-size: physical: 512 B logical: 512 B speed: 63.2 Gb/s lanes: 4 type: SSD serial: <filter>
rev: 2B2QKXG7 temp: 26.9 C scheme: MBR
ID-3: /dev/sda maj-min: 8:0 vendor: Samsung model: SSD 870 EVO 2TB size: 1.82 TiB block-size:
physical: 512 B logical: 512 B speed: 6.0 Gb/s type: SSD serial: <filter> rev: 3B6Q scheme: MBR
ID-4: /dev/sdc maj-min: 8:32 vendor: Samsung model: SSD 850 EVO 1TB size: 931.51 GiB
block-size: physical: 512 B logical: 512 B speed: 6.0 Gb/s type: SSD serial: <filter> rev: 3B6Q
scheme: MBR
Partition:
ID-1: / raw-size: 48.83 GiB size: 47.76 GiB (97.81%) used: 10.52 GiB (22.0%) fs: ext4
dev: /dev/nvme0n1p1 maj-min: 259:1
ID-2: /home raw-size: 390.62 GiB size: 383.43 GiB (98.16%) used: 441.3 MiB (0.1%) fs: ext4
dev: /dev/nvme0n1p3 maj-min: 259:3
Swap:
Kernel: swappiness: 1 (default 60) cache-pressure: 100 (default)
ID-1: swap-1 type: partition size: 64.45 GiB used: 0 KiB (0.0%) priority: -2
dev: /dev/nvme0n1p2 maj-min: 259:2
Sensors:
System Temperatures: cpu: 0.0 C mobo: N/A gpu: nvidia temp: 43 C
Fan Speeds (RPM): N/A gpu: nvidia fan: 50% {[note the card is fanless !}
Repos:
Packages: pm: dpkg pkgs: 2516 libs: 1376 tools: apt,apt-get,aptitude,nala,synaptic pm: rpm
pkgs: 0 pm: flatpak pkgs: 0
No active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list
Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian-stable-updates.list
1: deb http://deb.debian.org/debian bookworm-updates main contrib non-free non-free-firmware
Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian.list
1: deb http://deb.debian.org/debian bookworm main contrib non-free non-free-firmware
2: deb http://security.debian.org/debian-security bookworm-security main contrib non-free non-free-firmware
Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/mx.list
1: deb http://mirror.math.princeton.edu/pub/mxlinux/mx/repo/ bookworm main non-free
Info:
Processes: 415 Uptime: 8d 20h 59m wakeups: 25 Memory: 62.44 GiB used: 14.58 GiB (23.3%)
Init: SysVinit v: 3.06 runlevel: 5 default: graphical tool: systemctl Compilers: gcc: 12.2.0
alt: 12 Client: shell wrapper v: 5.2.15-release inxi: 3.3.26
Boot Mode: BIOS (legacy, CSM, MBR)
Re: new AMD machine-results and status
Posted: Wed Jul 30, 2025 3:56 am
by Stevo
A lot of updates for temperature sensors are in the ACPI kernel drivers, so a newer kernel might help. Since it costs nothing to run a live session of the AHS version, you could test to see if that helps.
I have a feeling that the AMD graphics may have worked better with the AHS drivers and firmware.
Re: new AMD machine-results and status
Posted: Wed Jul 30, 2025 6:47 am
by m_pav
@entropyfoe I don't want to come across as overbearing so please forgive me if I appear so in this response. I have tested MX on so many machines I simply can not count them. From brand new AMD Powerhouse Laptops and Desktops to 14 year old donkeys and I can say with absolute certainty your choice to use stock MX is not necessarily a bad one, but you really, really should try the AHS version with your hardware.
You've moved forward in leaps and bounds with your hardware but have chosen to hold back on the MX build that offers built in native support for your hardware and is specifically put together for the exact type of machine you have so lovingly built for yourself. MX AHS is not a mildly better solution, it is a significantly better match for your hardware in every possible way.
You speak of the B650 chipset being a few years old and you're right, but it's important to keep in mind the Debian Stable base on which MX 23 is built would have only had marginal support for such a new chipset at the time the B650 chipset was released. It's likely many would have found it too old to use on such new hardware at the time, lacking sufficient support to make use of all its features.
Conversely, our AHS releases use a much newer hardware stack and a kernel, therefore it offers a significantly better match for your hardware in every possible way.
To gain perspective on your current setup, please visit the link below where you'll see just how backwards the Nvidia graphics is compared to your Radeon 7000 series integrated graphics. The site obtains its results from Windows where nvidia offer superior support, so the variance a Linux user will see will be more pronounced.
Scroll down a bit till you start seeing all the 3D Mark entries with the bar graphs showing GT710 vs Radeon 7000 series. You will find a consistent pattern where the Radeon is anywhere from 2 - 5x faster than the GT710. With Linux, the benefit of having natively supported Radeon drivers in the Linux kernel and associated mesa packages vs poorly provisioned nvidia drivers and a 10 year graphics card will provide a far greater margin of difference, so you are not missing out by a short stones throw, you're missing out by a country mile on the performance gains the Radeon Graphics has to offer.
https://www.notebookcheck.net/GeForce-G ... 598.0.html
Besides the obvious improvement in most every aspect, you will also be drawing 19w less power to run the machine, so the volume of benefits is continually additive.
Now you can "upgrade" MX regular to AHS by enabling the AHS repos, updating then installing an AHS kernel and it will make a difference, but it will not be quite as finely tuned as our AHS ISO and you'll have to clean up the nvidia mess because you have their binary blob installed, which can leave you with a flashing cursor instead of a desktop.
Removing the nvidia card and reinstalling fresh from AHS will be the better option.
I hope you'll take a moment to consider this because it's very unlikely you will regret swapping MX regular for AHS with your hardware level.
Re: new AMD machine-results and status
Posted: Wed Jul 30, 2025 8:10 am
by siamhie
m_pav wrote: Wed Jul 30, 2025 6:47 am
Scroll down a bit till you start seeing all the 3D Mark entries with the bar graphs showing GT710 vs Radeon 7000 series. You will find a consistent pattern where the Radeon is anywhere from 2 - 5x faster than the GT710.
I agree with
@m_pav on this. Why pair a 7000 series AMD (with onboard video) CPU and an 11 year old PCIe 2.0 x8 video card from 11 years ago. There's a big bottleneck going on with that combination.
PC-Builds.png
Take a look at the full sheet here.
https://pc-builds.com/bottleneck-calcul ... lt/1C50KW/
Re: new AMD machine-results and status
Posted: Wed Jul 30, 2025 4:08 pm
by entropyfoe
siamhie and m_pav,
Thank you both for your insights. Yes I know the video card is lame. And I see you have nice references showing how much the integrated Radeon is faster.
But what does faster mean here? Frame rates on video games? This is a strictly 2d graphics machine, no games except chess ! So, some of those benefits would not show up for me.
Would I see faster general performance? In calculations? Disk operations? The snappiness of the GUI?
If you read my installation thread, I did try to load the Radeon, that was my original plan, but it would not let me use the integrated vid if the BIOS was set to CSM. I am lazy and desperately wanted to see the power of the new machine, so the easy path was to just put the old card back in.
I do have the AHS installed in my testing partition, but nvidia is installed with the MX tool, but it will not load. And using AHS I saw two lock ups and glitches, though this might come from not running the nvidia driver.
So, I guess I can take out the nvidia card, reinstall, using UEFI, though that will take some research for me.
Then I might, be able to just run the integrated Radeon. I do like the idea of lower power consumption. With the fanless video card, it draws 44W at idle at the wall. Not bad for all that.
For example, I like to have four primary partitions on my boot drive /, swap, /home and a fourth testing partition, where I now have AHS, and will have MX 25 betas.
If I create this UEFI partition, does that count as one of the four?
Edit: My error goes back earlier...
I must choose GPT instead of MBR for the disk partitioning stage.
Re: new AMD machine-results and status
Posted: Wed Jul 30, 2025 10:55 pm
by entropyfoe
OK, I think I am fixed, now running the Radeon driver on the AHS.
I spent 1.5 hours removing the nvidia card, deleting all the old partitions using the ahs live USB, created the GPT partition table, an 100mb ESP partition, then my usual 4 partitions.
Did the install, was fast. Did all my tweaks ,accepted all synaptic upgrades (lots >280) and disk enabling, used the uip tool, got everything except fsearch, my favorite search tool, is it available with a test repo?
So far the system seems fast and stable, but that's a few minute impression. Power consumption did decrease 20%, from 44 to 36W at idle. Boot time about the same, I read UEFI was faster, but still from power button to fire fox up and running, 37 seconds, includes typing long PW.
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System:
Kernel: 6.14.10-2-liquorix-amd64 [6.14-13~mx23ahs] arch: x86_64 bits: 64 compiler: gcc v: 12.2.0 parameters: audit=0
intel_pstate=disable amd_pstate=disable BOOT_IMAGE=/boot/vmlinuz-6.14.10-2-liquorix-amd64
root=UUID=<filter> ro quiet splash
Desktop: Xfce v: 4.20.0 tk: Gtk v: 3.24.38 info: xfce4-panel wm: xfwm v: 4.20.0 vt: 7
dm: LightDM v: 1.32.0 Distro: MX-23.6_ahs_x64 Libretto April 13 2025 base: Debian GNU/Linux 12
(bookworm)
Machine:
Type: Desktop System: ASUS product: N/A v: N/A serial: <superuser required>
Mobo: ASUSTeK model: PRIME B650-PLUS WIFI v: Rev 1.xx serial: <superuser required>
UEFI: American Megatrends v: 3057 date: 10/29/2024
CPU:
Info: model: AMD Ryzen 7 9700X bits: 64 type: MT MCP arch: N/A level: v4 note: check
family: 0x1A (26) model-id: 0x44 (68) stepping: 0 microcode: 0xB404023
Topology: cpus: 1x cores: 8 tpc: 2 threads: 16 smt: enabled cache: L1: 640 KiB
desc: d-8x48 KiB; i-8x32 KiB L2: 8 MiB desc: 8x1024 KiB L3: 32 MiB desc: 1x32 MiB
Speed (MHz): avg: 4488 high: 4509 min/max: 3000/3800 boost: enabled scaling:
driver: acpi-cpufreq governor: ondemand cores: 1: 4487 2: 4494 3: 4487 4: 4487 5: 4487 6: 4487
7: 4509 8: 4487 9: 4487 10: 4487 11: 4487 12: 4487 13: 4487 14: 4487 15: 4487 16: 4487
bogomips: 121599
Flags: avx avx2 ht lm nx pae sse sse2 sse3 sse4_1 sse4_2 sse4a ssse3 svm
Vulnerabilities:
Type: gather_data_sampling status: Not affected
Type: ghostwrite status: Not affected
Type: indirect_target_selection status: Not affected
Type: itlb_multihit status: Not affected
Type: l1tf status: Not affected
Type: mds status: Not affected
Type: meltdown status: Not affected
Type: mmio_stale_data status: Not affected
Type: old_microcode status: Not affected
Type: reg_file_data_sampling status: Not affected
Type: retbleed status: Not affected
Type: spec_rstack_overflow mitigation: IBPB on VMEXIT only
Type: spec_store_bypass mitigation: Speculative Store Bypass disabled via prctl
Type: spectre_v1 mitigation: usercopy/swapgs barriers and __user pointer sanitization
Type: spectre_v2 mitigation: Enhanced / Automatic IBRS; IBPB: conditional; STIBP: always-on;
PBRSB-eIBRS: Not affected; BHI: Not affected
Type: srbds status: Not affected
Type: tsx_async_abort status: Not affected
Graphics:
Device-1: AMD Granite Ridge [Radeon Graphics] vendor: ASUSTeK driver: amdgpu v: kernel pcie:
gen: 4 speed: 16 GT/s lanes: 16 ports: active: HDMI-A-1 empty: DP-1,Writeback-1 bus-ID: 0c:00.0
chip-ID: 1002:13c0 class-ID: 0300 temp: 40.0 C
Display: x11 server: X.Org v: 1.21.1.7 compositor: xfwm v: 4.20.0 driver: X: loaded: amdgpu
unloaded: fbdev,modesetting,vesa dri: radeonsi gpu: amdgpu display-ID: :0.0 screens: 1
Screen-1: 0 s-res: 1920x1080 s-dpi: 96 s-size: 509x286mm (20.04x11.26") s-diag: 584mm (22.99")
Monitor-1: HDMI-A-1 mapped: HDMI-A-0 model: Acer S235HL serial: <filter> built: 2012
res: 1920x1080 hz: 60 dpi: 96 gamma: 1.2 size: 509x286mm (20.04x11.26") diag: 584mm (23")
ratio: 16:9 modes: max: 1920x1080 min: 720x400
API: OpenGL v: 4.6 Mesa 25.0.4-1~mx23ahs+1 renderer: AMD Radeon Graphics (radeonsi
raphael_mendocino LLVM 15.0.6 DRM 3.61 6.14.10-2-liquorix-amd64) direct-render: Yes
Audio:
Device-1: AMD Rembrandt Radeon High Definition Audio vendor: ASUSTeK driver: snd_hda_intel
v: kernel pcie: gen: 4 speed: 16 GT/s lanes: 16 bus-ID: 0c:00.1 chip-ID: 1002:1640 class-ID: 0403
Device-2: AMD Family 17h/19h/1ah HD Audio vendor: ASUSTeK driver: snd_hda_intel v: kernel pcie:
gen: 4 speed: 16 GT/s lanes: 16 bus-ID: 0c:00.6 chip-ID: 1022:15e3 class-ID: 0403
API: ALSA v: k6.14.10-2-liquorix-amd64 status: kernel-api tools: alsamixer,amixer
Server-1: PipeWire v: 1.0.0 status: active with: 1: pipewire-pulse status: active
2: wireplumber status: active 3: pipewire-alsa type: plugin 4: pw-jack type: plugin
tools: pactl,pw-cat,pw-cli,wpctl
Network:
Device-1: Realtek RTL8125 2.5GbE vendor: ASUSTeK driver: r8169 v: kernel pcie: gen: 2
speed: 5 GT/s lanes: 1 port: f000 bus-ID: 07:00.0 chip-ID: 10ec:8125 class-ID: 0200
IF: eth0 state: up speed: 1000 Mbps duplex: full mac: <filter>
Device-2: MEDIATEK MT7922 802.11ax PCI Express Wireless Network Adapter vendor: Foxconn
driver: mt7921e v: kernel modules: wl pcie: gen: 2 speed: 5 GT/s lanes: 1 bus-ID: 08:00.0
chip-ID: 14c3:0616 class-ID: 0280
IF: wlan0 state: down mac: <filter>
Bluetooth:
Device-1: Foxconn / Hon Hai Wireless_Device type: USB driver: btusb v: 0.8 bus-ID: 1-8:3
chip-ID: 0489:e0e2 class-ID: e001 serial: <filter>
Report: hciconfig ID: hci0 rfk-id: 0 state: down bt-service: N/A rfk-block: hardware: no
software: no address: <filter>
Info: acl-mtu: 1021:6 sco-mtu: 240:8 link-policy: rswitch sniff link-mode: peripheral accept
Drives:
Local Storage: total: 5.46 TiB used: 963.19 GiB (17.2%)
SMART Message: Unable to run smartctl. Root privileges required.
ID-1: /dev/nvme0n1 maj-min: 259:0 vendor: Samsung model: SSD 980 PRO 1TB size: 931.51 GiB
block-size: physical: 512 B logical: 512 B speed: 63.2 Gb/s lanes: 4 type: SSD serial: <filter>
rev: 5B2QGXA7 temp: 28.9 C scheme: GPT
ID-2: /dev/nvme1n1 maj-min: 259:6 vendor: Samsung model: SSD 990 EVO Plus 2TB size: 1.82 TiB
block-size: physical: 512 B logical: 512 B speed: 63.2 Gb/s lanes: 4 type: SSD serial: <filter>
rev: 2B2QKXG7 temp: 27.9 C scheme: MBR
ID-3: /dev/sda maj-min: 8:0 vendor: Samsung model: SSD 870 EVO 2TB size: 1.82 TiB block-size:
physical: 512 B logical: 512 B speed: 6.0 Gb/s type: SSD serial: <filter> rev: 3B6Q scheme: MBR
ID-4: /dev/sdb maj-min: 8:16 vendor: Samsung model: SSD 850 EVO 1TB size: 931.51 GiB
block-size: physical: 512 B logical: 512 B speed: 6.0 Gb/s type: SSD serial: <filter> rev: 3B6Q
scheme: MBR
Partition:
ID-1: / raw-size: 63.48 GiB size: 62.18 GiB (97.96%) used: 9.62 GiB (15.5%) fs: ext4
dev: /dev/nvme0n1p2 maj-min: 259:2
ID-2: /boot/efi raw-size: 100 MiB size: 98.4 MiB (98.45%) used: 274 KiB (0.3%) fs: vfat
dev: /dev/nvme0n1p1 maj-min: 259:1
ID-3: /home raw-size: 400.39 GiB size: 393.04 GiB (98.16%) used: 180.1 MiB (0.0%) fs: ext4
dev: /dev/nvme0n1p4 maj-min: 259:4
Swap:
Kernel: swappiness: 1 (default 60) cache-pressure: 100 (default)
ID-1: swap-1 type: partition size: 64.45 GiB used: 0 KiB (0.0%) priority: -2
dev: /dev/nvme0n1p3 maj-min: 259:3
Sensors:
System Temperatures: cpu: 35.0 C mobo: N/A gpu: amdgpu temp: 39.0 C
Fan Speeds (RPM): N/A
Repos:
Packages: pm: dpkg pkgs: 2331 libs: 1217 tools: apt,apt-get,aptitude,nala,synaptic pm: rpm
pkgs: 0 pm: flatpak pkgs: 0
No active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list
Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian-stable-updates.list
1: deb http://deb.debian.org/debian bookworm-updates main contrib non-free non-free-firmware
Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian.list
1: deb http://deb.debian.org/debian bookworm main contrib non-free non-free-firmware
2: deb http://security.debian.org/debian-security bookworm-security main contrib non-free non-free-firmware
Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/mx.list
1: deb http://mirror.math.princeton.edu/pub/mxlinux/mx/repo/ bookworm main non-free
2: deb http://mirror.math.princeton.edu/pub/mxlinux/mx/repo/ bookworm ahs
Info:
Processes: 394 Uptime: 21m wakeups: 1 Memory: 60.48 GiB used: 8.13 GiB (13.4%) Init: SysVinit
v: 3.06 runlevel: 5 default: graphical tool: systemctl Compilers: gcc: 12.2.0 alt: 12
Client: shell wrapper v: 5.2.15-release inxi: 3.3.26
Boot Mode: UEFI
Re: new AMD machine-results and status
Posted: Wed Jul 30, 2025 11:16 pm
by siamhie
@entropyfoe You went from 8GB/s to 64GB/s by switching to the on-board AMD graphics.
Nvidia
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Graphics:
Device-1: NVIDIA GK208B [GeForce GT 710] vendor: Micro-Star MSI driver: nvidia v: 470.256.02
non-free: series: 470.xx+ status: legacy-active (EOL~2023/24) arch: Fermi 2 code: GF119/GK208
process: TSMC 28nm built: 2010-16 pcie: gen: 2 speed: 5 GT/s lanes: 8 bus-ID: 01:00.0
chip-ID: 10de:128b class-ID: 0300
AMD
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Graphics:
Device-1: AMD Granite Ridge [Radeon Graphics] vendor: ASUSTeK driver: amdgpu v: kernel pcie:
gen: 4 speed: 16 GT/s lanes: 16 ports: active: HDMI-A-1 empty: DP-1,Writeback-1 bus-ID: 0c:00.0
chip-ID: 1002:13c0 class-ID: 0300 temp: 40.0 C
Well done and congratulations on your new build.
Re: new AMD machine-results and status
Posted: Wed Jul 30, 2025 11:54 pm
by entropyfoe
Thanks, and thanks to you and m_pav, for pointing out the poor configuration.
I got lazy, forgetting my basics, fooled by the gparted default of msdos MBR.
Then I paniced when I couldn't boot the Radeon, so rather than properly troubleshoot that, I just put the old card in.
I will evaluate the liquorix for stability, as I wrote above, it is a major criteria.
Re: new AMD machine-results and status
Posted: Thu Jul 31, 2025 3:33 am
by Stevo
Don't forget we also have an easy install of a backported long term supported 6.12 Debian kernel from Trixie in MXPI. you can install both it and the latest Liquorix 6.14 and switch at boot.
Fsearch is in the MX 21 and 23 main repository:
https://mxrepo.com/mx/repo/pool/main/f/fsearch/
Re: new AMD machine-results and status
Posted: Thu Jul 31, 2025 12:06 pm
by entropyfoe
Thanks Stevo,
I tried to get the fsearch using the uip tool, because I had it loaded before. But when I ran the tool,on the new install, it said it could not be installed, unlike the other 20 packages.
So, I clicked your mxrepo link, and installed, works great as usual.
As for the alternate kernel 6.12 Debian LTS, if I install it, will it update automatically with synaptic upgrades?
So far the 6.14.10-2-liquorix is runnning well, a 12 hour uptime so far.
Re: new AMD machine-results and status
Posted: Thu Jul 31, 2025 4:03 pm
by Stevo
No, AHS Debian kernels are not automatically upgraded. You can do it with usually somewhat older 6.12 kernels in bookworm-backports, though...though they now have 6.12.38-1~bpo12+1, which I believe breaks MX Linux. A good reason not to have automatic upgrades. Liquorix kernels will be automatically upgradeg if installed via MXPI, though right now we are having issues with MX 23 and nvidia-driver installing with the latest 6.15. Works fine on MX 25, though.
Re: new AMD machine-results and status
Posted: Thu Jul 31, 2025 4:23 pm
by siamhie
entropyfoe wrote: Thu Jul 31, 2025 12:06 pm
I tried to get the fsearch using the uip tool, because I had it loaded before. But when I ran the tool,on the new install, it said it could not be installed, unlike the other 20 packages.
@entropyfoe
I would do then is open MX Package Installer and install all the packages that are missing, then create a new UIP file.