No internet after last update, but wifi works

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maxmoon
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No internet after last update, but wifi works

#1 Post by maxmoon »

I've updated my laptop yesterday and after starting it up today, it connected to my router, but there is no internet connection.
Browser says: "Hmm. We're having trouble finding that site."
ping says: "ping utopify.org: Name or service not known"
If I ping a machine in the same network: "Destination Port Unreachable"
IPv4 Settings says: "Automatic (DHCP)"

Even if it connects to the router, it doesn't show up in Syncthing on other devices.

The internet is working and other devices don't have this issue.

What can I do to solve this issue, because I've never had it like this.

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System:
  Kernel: 6.14.10-2-liquorix-amd64 arch: x86_64 bits: 64 compiler: gcc
    v: 12.2.0 Desktop: i3 v: 4.22 Distro: MX-23.6_ahs_x64 Libretto May 19  2024
    base: Debian GNU/Linux 12 (bookworm)
Machine:
  Type: Laptop System: LENOVO product: 20BS00A8MZ v: ThinkPad X1 Carbon 3rd
    serial: <superuser required>
  Mobo: LENOVO model: 20BS00A8MZ v: SDK0J40705 WIN
    serial: <superuser required> UEFI-[Legacy]: LENOVO v: N14ET48W (1.26 )
    date: 06/11/2018
Battery:
  ID-1: BAT0 charge: 39.2 Wh (94.7%) condition: 41.4/50.1 Wh (82.7%)
    volts: 16.4 min: 15.2 model: SMP 00HW003 status: discharging
CPU:
  Info: dual core model: Intel Core i5-5200U bits: 64 type: MT MCP
    arch: Broadwell rev: 4 cache: L1: 128 KiB L2: 512 KiB L3: 3 MiB
  Speed (MHz): avg: 999 high: 1500 min/max: 500/2201 boost: enabled cores:
    1: 500 2: 1500 3: 1496 4: 500 bogomips: 17558
  Flags: avx avx2 ht lm nx pae sse sse2 sse3 sse4_1 sse4_2 ssse3
Graphics:
  Device-1: Intel HD Graphics 5500 vendor: Lenovo driver: i915 v: kernel
    arch: Gen-8 bus-ID: 00:02.0
  Device-2: Lite-On Integrated Camera type: USB driver: uvcvideo
    bus-ID: 2-8:7
  Display: x11 server: X.Org v: 1.21.1.7 driver: X: loaded: intel dri: iris
    gpu: i915 resolution: 1920x1080~60Hz
  API: OpenGL v: 4.6 Mesa 24.2.8-1mx23ahs renderer: Mesa Intel HD Graphics
    5500 (BDW GT2) direct-render: Yes
Audio:
  Device-1: Intel Broadwell-U Audio vendor: Lenovo driver: snd_hda_intel
    v: kernel bus-ID: 00:03.0
  Device-2: Intel Wildcat Point-LP High Definition Audio vendor: Lenovo
    driver: snd_hda_intel v: kernel bus-ID: 00:1b.0
  API: ALSA v: k6.14.10-2-liquorix-amd64 status: kernel-api
  Server-1: PipeWire v: 1.0.0 status: off
  Server-2: PulseAudio v: 16.1 status: active
Network:
  Device-1: Intel Ethernet I218-V vendor: Lenovo driver: e1000e v: kernel
    port: 3080 bus-ID: 00:19.0
  IF: eth0 state: down mac: <filter>
  Device-2: Intel Wireless 7265 driver: iwlwifi v: kernel bus-ID: 04:00.0
  IF: wlan0 state: up mac: <filter>
  IF-ID-1: wwan0 state: down mac: <filter>
Bluetooth:
  Device-1: Intel Bluetooth wireless interface type: USB driver: btusb v: 0.8
    bus-ID: 2-7:6
  Report: hciconfig ID: hci0 rfk-id: 3 state: up address: <filter> bt-v: 2.1
    lmp-v: 4.2
Drives:
  Local Storage: total: 242.32 GiB used: 164.16 GiB (67.7%)
  ID-1: /dev/sda vendor: Samsung model: MZNLN256HCHP-000L7 size: 238.47 GiB
  ID-2: /dev/sdb type: USB model: QIMONDA size: 3.84 GiB
Partition:
  ID-1: / size: 232.67 GiB used: 163.39 GiB (70.2%) fs: ext4 dev: /dev/dm-0
    mapped: luks-cf452344-d708-4fe1-a24b-afb187fb1818
  ID-2: /boot size: 973.4 MiB used: 782.3 MiB (80.4%) fs: ext4
    dev: /dev/sda1
Swap:
  ID-1: swap-1 type: file size: 10.45 GiB used: 0 KiB (0.0%) file: /swap/swap
Sensors:
  System Temperatures: cpu: 36.0 C pch: 36.0 C mobo: N/A
  Fan Speeds (RPM): fan-1: 0
Repos:
  Packages: 2599
  No active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list
  Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian-stable-updates.list
    1: deb http://deb.debian.org/debian bookworm-updates main contrib non-free non-free-firmware
  Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian.list
    1: deb http://deb.debian.org/debian bookworm main contrib non-free non-free-firmware
    2: deb http://security.debian.org/debian-security bookworm-security main contrib non-free non-free-firmware
  Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/mullvad.list
    1: deb [signed-by=/usr/share/keyrings/mullvad-keyring.asc arch=amd64] https://repository.mullvad.net/deb/stable bookworm main
  Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/mx.list
    1: deb http://ftp.halifax.rwth-aachen.de/mxlinux/packages/mx/repo/ bookworm main non-free
    2: deb http://ftp.halifax.rwth-aachen.de/mxlinux/packages/mx/repo/ bookworm ahs
  Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/signal-xenial-added-by-mxpi.list
    1: deb [arch=amd64] https://updates.signal.org/desktop/apt xenial main
  Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/syncthing.list
    1: deb https://apt.syncthing.net/ syncthing stable
  Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/teamviewer.list
    1: deb [signed-by=/usr/share/keyrings/teamviewer-keyring.gpg] https://linux.teamviewer.com/deb stable main
Info:
  Processes: 248 Uptime: 3m Memory: 7.45 GiB used: 1.5 GiB (20.1%)
  Init: SysVinit runlevel: 5 Compilers: gcc: 12.2.0 Shell: Zsh v: 5.9
  inxi: 3.3.26

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Re: No internet after last update, but wifi works

#2 Post by j2mcgreg »

From here:
https://psref.lenovo.com/syspool/Sys/PD ... rd_Gen.pdf
One of the following, confi gurable by model:
• 11b/g/n, Intel Wireless-N 7265, 2x2, Wi-Fi + Bluetooth combo adapter, M.2 card
• 11a/b/g/n, Intel Dual Band Wireless-N 7265, 2x2, Wi-Fi + BT adapter, M.2 card
• 11ac, Intel Dual Band Wireless-AC 7265, 2x2, Wi-Fi + BT adapter, M.2 card
Assuming that your WiFi card is one of the first two:
--> right click on the wifi icon in the panel
--> click on Edit Connections
--> double click on your SSID
--> use the selection box to the right of Band to switch from Automatic to /b/g or just /g
What is happening is that the WiFi card is trying to use N protocol and the above steps force it to use G instead. In theory N gives the greatest range and fastest throughput, but it is so susceptible to interference that it is useless which is why it was quickly abandoned.
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Re: No internet after last update, but wifi works

#3 Post by vitforlinux »

try with

ping 1.1.1.1

it could be a dns problem

Try to see if you can access the router login from the browser, at least you'll know if the problem is with the computer or external.
Excuse my spaghetti english, i m italian.

maxmoon
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Re: No internet after last update, but wifi works

#4 Post by maxmoon »

j2mcgreg wrote: Wed Jun 25, 2025 7:50 am From here:
https://psref.lenovo.com/syspool/Sys/PD ... rd_Gen.pdf
One of the following, confi gurable by model:
• 11b/g/n, Intel Wireless-N 7265, 2x2, Wi-Fi + Bluetooth combo adapter, M.2 card
• 11a/b/g/n, Intel Dual Band Wireless-N 7265, 2x2, Wi-Fi + BT adapter, M.2 card
• 11ac, Intel Dual Band Wireless-AC 7265, 2x2, Wi-Fi + BT adapter, M.2 card
Assuming that your WiFi card is one of the first two:
--> right click on the wifi icon in the panel
--> click on Edit Connections
--> double click on your SSID
--> use the selection box to the right of Band to switch from Automatic to /b/g or just /g
What is happening is that the WiFi card is trying to use N protocol and the above steps force it to use G instead. In theory N gives the greatest range and fastest throughput, but it is so susceptible to interference that it is useless which is why it was quickly abandoned.
Thank you. I tried it, but still no changes.
vitforlinux wrote: Wed Jun 25, 2025 8:07 am try with

ping 1.1.1.1

it could be a dns problem

Try to see if you can access the router login from the browser, at least you'll know if the problem is with the computer or external.
ping 1.1.1.1 says: "ping: sendmsg: operation not permitted. From 192.x.x.x icmp_seq=4 Destination Port Unreachable"

I can't reach the router from the browser from the device. But the router is reachable from every other device in the network.

Thanks for helping me out :)

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Re: No internet after last update, but wifi works

#5 Post by j2mcgreg »

You said that you updated the laptop two days ago, so was this a standard update as issued by our developers or did you do something on your own?
Also, can you access the internet from a live session?
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Re: No internet after last update, but wifi works

#6 Post by vitforlinux »

At startup, try to choose an older kernel if you still have it.

I believe the problem is the wifi firmware that doesn't work well with the kernel.

Ah, if ping doesn't work, also try sudo ping.
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Re: No internet after last update, but wifi works

#7 Post by maxmoon »

j2mcgreg wrote: Wed Jun 25, 2025 8:26 am You said that you updated the laptop two days ago, so was this a standard update as issued by our developers or did you do something on your own?
I used following command to update my system. I do this once in a while:

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sudo apt update -y && sudo apt upgrade -y
j2mcgreg wrote: Wed Jun 25, 2025 8:26 am Also, can you access the internet from a live session?
I've downloaded the current version of MX-23.6_x64 and started the live system. Wifi is working and the internet connection is there, too. :happy:
vitforlinux wrote: Wed Jun 25, 2025 8:31 am At startup, try to choose an older kernel if you still have it.

I believe the problem is the wifi firmware that doesn't work well with the kernel.
I've tried to start a few older ones in the list, but none works.

I don't know how new the newest MX-23.6_x64 is, but if the live system works, I guess the firmware is okay and it must break somewhere else. But I don't understand where? How can wifi work, but not the connection itself?
vitforlinux wrote: Wed Jun 25, 2025 8:31 am
Ah, if ping doesn't work, also try sudo ping.
I get the same output with sudo :(

EDIT: I've tried to make a wired connection with an adapter for the Lenovo laptop, but I've got the same issue. Something broke pretty hard…

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Re: No internet after last update, but wifi works

#8 Post by j2mcgreg »

Please post the QSI from a live session so we can compare it to the one from your install.
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Re: No internet after last update, but wifi works

#9 Post by j2mcgreg »

What was the interval between the update two days ago and the previous one?
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Re: No internet after last update, but wifi works

#10 Post by Mauser »

maxmoon wrote: Wed Jun 25, 2025 8:56 am
j2mcgreg wrote: Wed Jun 25, 2025 8:26 am You said that you updated the laptop two days ago, so was this a standard update as issued by our developers or did you do something on your own?

I've downloaded the current version of MX-23.6_x64 and started the live system. Wifi is working and the internet connection is there, too. :happy:
vitforlinux wrote: Wed Jun 25, 2025 8:31 am At startup, try to choose an older kernel if you still have it.

I believe the problem is the wifi firmware that doesn't work well with the kernel.
I've tried to start a few older ones in the list, but none works.

From my own personal experience the liquorix kernel can sometimes cause weird issues. Since you tried running MX LINUX Live session and your Internet worked narrows it down to the liquorix kernel. What I recommend is to install the stock MX-23.6 kernel and don't uninstall the liquorix kernel in case you want to go back to that kernel. Then boot with the stock MX kernel and then see if the Internet works which I suspect it will.
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