live system freezes

[cfli1688c1]

I'm running the MX Live system from RAM. A couple of times now, when I tried to download a 2GB file, the system froze and became completely unresponsive. What could be causing this issue?

$ cat /etc/mx-version
MX-23.6_ahs_x64 Libretto April 13, 2025

[siamhie]

Post your Quick System Info found in the MX Tools section.

[j2mcgreg]

You have to post your Quick System Info. Go to MX Tools --> Quick System Info --> run the utility --> click on Copy For Forum at the bottom and then just paste it into a new post here in your thread.

ninja'd by siamhie :)

[siamhie]

ninja'd by siamhie :)

[cfli1688c1]

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System:
  Kernel: 6.14.2-1-liquorix-amd64 [6.14-3~mx23ahs] arch: x86_64 bits: 64 compiler: gcc v: 12.2.0 parameters: audit=0
    intel_pstate=disable amd_pstate=disable BOOT_IMAGE=/antiX/vmlinuz quiet splasht nosplash
  Desktop: Xfce v: 4.20.0 tk: Gtk v: 3.24.38 info: xfce4-panel wm: xfwm v: 4.20.0 vt: 7
    dm: LightDM v: 1.32.0 Distro: MX-23.6_ahs_x64 Libretto April 13  2025 base: Debian GNU/Linux 12
    (bookworm)
Machine:
  Type: Laptop System: Dell product: Precision 3561 v: N/A serial: <superuser required> Chassis:
    type: 10 serial: <superuser required>
  Mobo: Dell model: 03DC8H v: A00 serial: <superuser required> UEFI: Dell v: 1.35.0
    date: 12/11/2024
Battery:
  ID-1: BAT0 charge: 54.2 Wh (100.0%) condition: 54.2/64.0 Wh (84.8%) volts: 17.6 min: 15.2
    model: SMP DELL 0P3TJYK type: Li-poly serial: <filter> status: full
CPU:
  Info: model: 11th Gen Intel Core i7-11800H bits: 64 type: MT MCP arch: Tiger Lake gen: core 11
    level: v4 note: check built: 2020 process: Intel 10nm family: 6 model-id: 0x8D (141) stepping: 1
    microcode: 0x54
  Topology: cpus: 1x cores: 8 tpc: 2 threads: 16 smt: enabled cache: L1: 640 KiB
    desc: d-8x48 KiB; i-8x32 KiB L2: 10 MiB desc: 8x1.2 MiB L3: 24 MiB desc: 1x24 MiB
  Speed (MHz): avg: 848 high: 1051 min/max: 800/2301 boost: enabled scaling: driver: acpi-cpufreq
    governor: ondemand cores: 1: 1018 2: 1051 3: 805 4: 894 5: 800 6: 800 7: 800 8: 800 9: 900
    10: 800 11: 800 12: 800 13: 800 14: 900 15: 800 16: 800 bogomips: 73728
  Flags: avx avx2 ht lm nx pae sse sse2 sse3 sse4_1 sse4_2 ssse3 vmx
  Vulnerabilities:
  Type: gather_data_sampling mitigation: Microcode
  Type: ghostwrite status: Not affected
  Type: itlb_multihit status: Not affected
  Type: l1tf status: Not affected
  Type: mds status: Not affected
  Type: meltdown status: Not affected
  Type: mmio_stale_data status: Not affected
  Type: reg_file_data_sampling status: Not affected
  Type: retbleed status: Not affected
  Type: spec_rstack_overflow status: Not affected
  Type: spec_store_bypass mitigation: Speculative Store Bypass disabled via prctl
  Type: spectre_v1 mitigation: usercopy/swapgs barriers and __user pointer sanitization
  Type: spectre_v2 mitigation: Enhanced / Automatic IBRS; IBPB: conditional; RSB filling;
    PBRSB-eIBRS: SW sequence; BHI: SW loop, KVM: SW loop
  Type: srbds status: Not affected
  Type: tsx_async_abort status: Not affected
Graphics:
  Device-1: Intel TigerLake-H GT1 [UHD Graphics] vendor: Dell driver: i915 v: kernel alternate: xe
    arch: Gen-12.1 process: Intel 10nm built: 2020-21 ports: active: eDP-1 empty: DP-1,DP-2,HDMI-A-1
    bus-ID: 00:02.0 chip-ID: 8086:9a60 class-ID: 0300
  Device-2: NVIDIA TU117GLM [T600 Mobile] vendor: Dell driver: N/A alternate: nouveau
    non-free: 530.xx+ status: current (as of 2023-03) arch: Turing code: TUxxx process: TSMC 12nm FF
    built: 2018-22 pcie: gen: 4 speed: 16 GT/s lanes: 8 link-max: lanes: 16 bus-ID: 01:00.0
    chip-ID: 10de:1fba class-ID: 0302
  Device-3: Microdia Integrated_Webcam_HD type: USB driver: uvcvideo bus-ID: 3-3:2
    chip-ID: 0c45:6a09 class-ID: 0e02
  Display: x11 server: X.Org v: 1.21.1.7 compositor: xfwm v: 4.20.0 driver: X:
    loaded: modesetting unloaded: fbdev,vesa dri: iris gpu: i915 display-ID: :0.0 screens: 1
  Screen-1: 0 s-res: 1920x1080 s-dpi: 96 s-size: 509x286mm (20.04x11.26") s-diag: 584mm (22.99")
  Monitor-1: eDP-1 model-id: HKC 0x3cfe built: 2021 res: 1920x1080 hz: 60 dpi: 142 gamma: 1.2
    size: 344x194mm (13.54x7.64") diag: 395mm (15.5") ratio: 16:9 modes: 1920x1080
  API: OpenGL v: 4.6 Mesa 24.2.8-1mx23ahs renderer: Mesa Intel UHD Graphics (TGL GT1)
    direct-render: Yes
Audio:
  Device-1: Intel Tiger Lake-H HD Audio vendor: Dell driver: snd_hda_intel v: kernel
    alternate: snd_soc_avs,snd_sof_pci_intel_tgl bus-ID: 00:1f.3 chip-ID: 8086:43c8 class-ID: 0403
  API: ALSA v: k6.14.2-1-liquorix-amd64 status: kernel-api tools: alsamixer,amixer
  Server-1: PipeWire v: 1.0.0 status: active with: 1: pipewire-pulse status: active
    2: wireplumber status: active 3: pipewire-alsa type: plugin 4: pw-jack type: plugin
    tools: pactl,pw-cat,pw-cli,wpctl
Network:
  Device-1: Intel Tiger Lake PCH CNVi WiFi driver: iwlwifi v: kernel modules: wl bus-ID: 00:14.3
    chip-ID: 8086:43f0 class-ID: 0280
  IF: wlan0 state: up mac: <filter>
  Device-2: Intel Ethernet I219-V driver: e1000e v: kernel port: N/A bus-ID: 00:1f.6
    chip-ID: 8086:15fa class-ID: 0200
  IF: eth0 state: down mac: <filter>
  Device-3: Realtek RTL8153 Gigabit Ethernet Adapter type: USB driver: r8152 bus-ID: 6-2.4:4
    chip-ID: 0bda:8153 class-ID: 0000 serial: <filter>
  IF: eth1 state: down mac: <filter>
Bluetooth:
  Device-1: Intel AX201 Bluetooth type: USB driver: btusb v: 0.8 bus-ID: 3-14:4 chip-ID: 8087:0026
    class-ID: e001
  Report: hciconfig ID: hci0 rfk-id: 3 state: up address: <filter> bt-v: 3.0 lmp-v: 5.2
    sub-v: 2184 hci-v: 5.2 rev: 2184
  Info: acl-mtu: 1021:4 sco-mtu: 96:6 link-policy: rswitch sniff link-mode: peripheral accept
    service-classes: rendering, capturing, object transfer, audio, telephony
Drives:
  Local Storage: total: 271.37 GiB used: 15.59 GiB (5.7%)
  ID-1: /dev/mmcblk0 maj-min: 179:0 type: Removable vendor: SanDisk model: SD16G size: 29.12 GiB
    block-size: physical: 512 B logical: 512 B type: SSD serial: <filter> scheme: MBR
  SMART Message: Unknown smartctl error. Unable to generate data.
  SMART Message: Unable to run smartctl. Root privileges required.
  ID-2: /dev/nvme0n1 maj-min: 259:0 vendor: SK Hynix model: BC711 NVMe 256GB size: 238.47 GiB
    block-size: physical: 512 B logical: 512 B speed: 31.6 Gb/s lanes: 4 type: SSD serial: <filter>
    rev: 41002131 temp: 35.9 C scheme: GPT
  ID-3: /dev/sda maj-min: 8:0 type: USB vendor: SMI (STMicroelectronics) model: USB DISK
    size: 3.77 GiB block-size: physical: 512 B logical: 512 B type: N/A serial: <filter> rev: 1100
    scheme: MBR
  SMART Message: Unknown USB bridge. Flash drive/Unsupported enclosure?
Partition:
  Message: No partition data found.
Swap:
  Alert: No swap data was found.
Sensors:
  System Temperatures: cpu: 58.0 C mobo: 49.0 C
  Fan Speeds (RPM): cpu: 2538
Repos:
  Packages: pm: dpkg pkgs: 2135 libs: 1062 tools: apt,apt-get,aptitude,nala,synaptic pm: rpm
    pkgs: 0 pm: flatpak pkgs: 0
  No active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list
  Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian-stable-updates.list
    1: deb http://deb.debian.org/debian bookworm-updates main contrib non-free non-free-firmware
  Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian.list
    1: deb http://deb.debian.org/debian bookworm main contrib non-free non-free-firmware
    2: deb http://security.debian.org/debian-security bookworm-security main contrib non-free non-free-firmware
  Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/mx.list
    1: deb https://mxrepo.com/mx/repo/ bookworm main non-free
    2: deb https://mxrepo.com/mx/repo/ bookworm ahs
Info:
  Processes: 381 Uptime: 14h 44m wakeups: 38049 Memory: 15.37 GiB used: 10.77 GiB (70.1%)
  Init: SysVinit v: 3.06 runlevel: 5 default: graphical tool: systemctl Compilers: gcc: 12.2.0
  alt: 12 Client: shell wrapper v: 5.2.15-release inxi: 3.3.26
Boot Mode: UEFI
Video Tweaks:
Detected possible Hybrid Graphics

[siamhie]

I've never run the live ISO from RAM before but this sticks out from your QSI.

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Memory: 15.37 GiB used: 10.77 GiB (70.1%)

[DeepDayze]

I wouldn't be downloading things into RAM when running the live session, unless you have copious amounts of RAM. My big rig for example has 64GB and I've used the live session from RAM and it's pretty snappy.

[CharlesV]

You also need swap space. Being that deep in ram the system has no place to swap too when needed. On all of my live USB systems we have a dedicated swap space on the hard drive.

On my Tiger Lake systems, like you have, I have had to run on the Intel drivers to keep them from issues. ( MX Tweak | Other tab and then Use Intel driver in stead of default "modesetting") I have not had to do this on the Raptor Lake systems.

And depending upon which web browser your using, you may have to turn off Hardware acceleration too.

[FullScale4Me]

Most of the 'generic' level USB drives have no buffer cache ahead of their main memory. SATA and NVMe drives do. Performance for large writes suffers accordingly.

I use a 256 GB NVMe drive in a USB 3.1 Gen 2 enclosure. Instead of persistence, I have installed MX on it and additionally have set up a user data partition. Yes, a little bigger than a USB thumb drive, but the performance is worlds better! One drive replaces a zipper pouch of USB 2/USB 3.x thumb drive in my service kit.

USB thumb drives do exist with buffer memory; this one has 24 Gb - "PNY 256GB PRO Elite V2 USB 3.2 Gen 2" In testing, it comes very close to 600 MB/s. Far better than my Sandisk USB 3.0 ones. This is now my pocket-sized USB drive, which is always with me. Xfce and KDE, dual boot. Grub set to better support MBR and UEFI booting.


Where I found mine - SSD-Tester 'Fastest USB flash drive benchmark test 2025'. There are SSDs ranked there too.