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Posted: **Tue May 27, 2025 6:38 am**

I'm looking for a different way to name MXFB workspaces besides the uninspiring one we have had forever (W-1, W-2).

--I tried to use unicode for circled numbers

u2461, u2462, etc.

but just get the code
--I sort of like this:

#1, #2, etc.

thoughI'm not sure that it would work for non-English speakers

Anybody have ideas?

Posted: **Tue May 27, 2025 7:10 am**

Alpha, Beta, Gamma, etc?

Posted: **Tue May 27, 2025 8:00 am**

I II III IV? :D

Posted: **Tue May 27, 2025 8:20 am**

1 2 3 4 ?

Posted: **Tue May 27, 2025 8:54 am**

I played around using font-awesome glyphs a while ago

Posted: **Tue May 27, 2025 9:18 am**

That's very neat, as long as the user doesn't change to more than 2. But I do wonder whether it might similar enuf to a folder that it function would be unclear.

Thanks for the suggestions, people. I'm still leaning myself to the "#1" idea, where the series number's role would be obvious.

Posted: **Tue May 27, 2025 9:48 am**

Jerry3904 wrote: Tue May 27, 2025 6:38 am I'm looking for a different way to name MXFB workspaces besides the uninspiring one we have had forever (W-1, W-2).

I've always changed mine to the spelling of the names.

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session.screen0.workspaceNames:	One, Two, Three, Four,

Posted: **Tue May 27, 2025 10:03 am**

siamhie wrote: Tue May 27, 2025 9:48 am
Jerry3904 wrote: Tue May 27, 2025 6:38 am I'm looking for a different way to name MXFB workspaces besides the uninspiring one we have had forever (W-1, W-2).
I've always changed mine to the spelling of the names.
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session.screen0.workspaceNames:	One, Two, Three, Four,

Problem with this is localization, it would need to be translated in many languages...

Posted: **Tue May 27, 2025 10:56 am**

Adrian wrote: Tue May 27, 2025 10:03 am
siamhie wrote: Tue May 27, 2025 9:48 am
Jerry3904 wrote: Tue May 27, 2025 6:38 am I'm looking for a different way to name MXFB workspaces besides the uninspiring one we have had forever (W-1, W-2).
I've always changed mine to the spelling of the names.
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session.screen0.workspaceNames:	One, Two, Three, Four,
Problem with this is localization, it would need to be translated in many languages...

Then the simplest way would be just numbers and no names of any sort.

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session.screen0.workspaceNames:	1, 2, 3, 4,

Posted: **Tue May 27, 2025 11:13 am**

siamhie wrote: Tue May 27, 2025 10:56 am Then the simplest way would be just numbers and no names of any sort.
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session.screen0.workspaceNames:	1, 2, 3, 4, 

Which looks pretty bare all by itself--and it's not clear that is naming and not counting--which I why I'm leaning toward "#1" instead where that distinction is clear.

Posted: **Tue May 27, 2025 11:30 am**

Jerry3904 wrote: Tue May 27, 2025 9:18 amThat's very neat, as long as the user doesn't change to more than 2.

If you want 4 workspaces, you just use 4 glyphs. Workspace names would then be filled/outline/outline/outline, outline/filled/outline/outline, outline/outline/filled/outline, outline/outline/outline/filled.

But I do wonder whether it might similar enuf to a folder that it function would be unclear.

There are other glyphs, eg. filled and outline circles.

The font-awesome website also has dice, which would enable up to 6 workspaces, but I'm not sure if they're included in the version we're using.

dice.png

Posted: **Tue May 27, 2025 11:43 am**

Jerry3904 wrote: Tue May 27, 2025 11:13 am
siamhie wrote: Tue May 27, 2025 10:56 am Then the simplest way would be just numbers and no names of any sort.
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session.screen0.workspaceNames:	1, 2, 3, 4, 
Which looks pretty bare all by itself--and it's not clear that is naming and not counting--which I why I'm leaning toward "#1" instead where that distinction is clear.

To me, it looks odd when I bring up the workspace menu. I'm reading it as Workspace number 1, Workspace number 2, etc.

ws1.jpg

This makes more sense. Now I read it as Workspace 1, Workspace 2, etc. But that's just me.

ws2.jpg

Posted: **Tue May 27, 2025 11:44 am**

I actually like the dice idea.

Posted: **Tue May 27, 2025 11:47 am**

Melber wrote: Tue May 27, 2025 11:30 am
Jerry3904 wrote: Tue May 27, 2025 9:18 amThat's very neat, as long as the user doesn't change to more than 2.
If you want 4 workspaces, you just use 4 glyphs. Workspace names would then be filled/outline/outline/outline, outline/filled/outline/outline, outline/outline/filled/outline, outline/outline/outline/filled.

But I do wonder whether it might similar enuf to a folder that it function would be unclear.
There are other glyphs, eg. filled and outline circles.

The font-awesome website also has dice, which would enable up to 6 workspaces, but I'm not sure if they're included in the version we're using.
dice.png

How would one incorporate workspaces 7-12? fluxbox can have up to 12 workspaces maximum.

Posted: **Tue May 27, 2025 11:49 am**

6+1=7

and no sane person uses 12 workspaces

Posted: **Tue May 27, 2025 11:52 am**

Adrian wrote: Tue May 27, 2025 11:44 am I actually like the dice idea.

need to check tonight, but I suspect they're not part of the v. old version we use..

Posted: **Tue May 27, 2025 12:04 pm**

If you can have #1, can you not have Workspace 1?

That could mean translating 'Workspace', of course. Is an icon or ASCI art of some sort feasible, these being more universally recognised?

@1, [-1-], [-2-] ...?

Posted: **Tue May 27, 2025 3:40 pm**

Melber wrote: Tue May 27, 2025 11:52 am
Adrian wrote: Tue May 27, 2025 11:44 am I actually like the dice idea.
need to check tonight, but I suspect they're not part of the v. old version we use..

These glyphs are in Hack Nerd Font
This font also offers simple blocks with digit only
and stack-lined squares with digits --> which I quite like :)

fwiw: nearly all fontawesome glyphs are included in the Hack Nerd Font...

Posted: **Tue May 27, 2025 4:45 pm**

Those are on target, thanks.

Posted: **Tue May 27, 2025 6:13 pm**

ceeslans wrote: Tue May 27, 2025 3:40 pm These glyphs are in Hack Nerd Font

Where can those be found? I'm not seeing them in the repo, unless they are under a different name.

Posted: **Tue May 27, 2025 6:53 pm**

siamhie wrote: Tue May 27, 2025 6:13 pm
ceeslans wrote: Tue May 27, 2025 3:40 pm These glyphs are in Hack Nerd Font
Where can those be found? I'm not seeing them in the repo, unless they are under a different name.

try searching fonts-hack in mxpi

Posted: **Tue May 27, 2025 7:25 pm**

Melber wrote: Tue May 27, 2025 6:53 pm
siamhie wrote: Tue May 27, 2025 6:13 pm
ceeslans wrote: Tue May 27, 2025 3:40 pm These glyphs are in Hack Nerd Font
Where can those be found? I'm not seeing them in the repo, unless they are under a different name.
try searching fonts-hack in mxpi

Thank you. I will now try to setup the workspace fonts using fluxbox's toolbar.

@Melber *Update: No luck

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╔═[siamhie@flux23]═[18:26 27/05/25]═══════════════════════════════════════════════[~]
╚═> ls -l /usr/share/fonts-hack/woff
total 712
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root  33688 Nov 10  2019 hack-bolditalic-subset.woff
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 150092 Nov 10  2019 hack-bolditalic.woff
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root  30272 Nov 10  2019 hack-bold-subset.woff
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 144036 Nov 10  2019 hack-bold.woff
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root  32720 Nov 10  2019 hack-italic-subset.woff
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 147632 Nov 10  2019 hack-italic.woff
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root  29688 Nov 10  2019 hack-regular-subset.woff
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 140360 Nov 10  2019 hack-regular.woff
╔═[siamhie@flux23]═[18:26 27/05/25]═══════════════════════════════════════════════[~]
╚═> ls -l /usr/share/fonts-hack/woff2
total 536
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root  26540 Nov 10  2019 hack-bolditalic-subset.woff2
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 112780 Nov 10  2019 hack-bolditalic.woff2
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root  23428 Nov 10  2019 hack-bold-subset.woff2
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 107276 Nov 10  2019 hack-bold.woff2
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root  25796 Nov 10  2019 hack-italic-subset.woff2
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 110580 Nov 10  2019 hack-italic.woff2
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root  23172 Nov 10  2019 hack-regular-subset.woff2
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 105464 Nov 10  2019 hack-regular.woff2

Posted: **Wed May 28, 2025 1:18 am**

Melber wrote: Tue May 27, 2025 6:53 pm
siamhie wrote: Tue May 27, 2025 6:13 pm
ceeslans wrote: Tue May 27, 2025 3:40 pm These glyphs are in Hack Nerd Font
Where can those be found? I'm not seeing them in the repo, unless they are under a different name.
try searching fonts-hack in mxpi

You'll need the Hack Nerd font - which I believe is not in mxpi.
Check out https://www.nerdfonts.com - or download the 17mb hack-nerd-font zip-archive directly https://github.com/ryanoasis/nerd-fonts ... 0/Hack.zip
Once downloaded, you only need to extract the HackNerdFont-Regular.ttf to your home font folder

Posted: **Wed May 28, 2025 3:04 am**

siamhie wrote: Tue May 27, 2025 7:25 pm @Melber *Update: No luck

sorry, my bad. Forgot I must have downloaded direct as per Cees’ links at some point. So the debian packages don't have the glyphs?

Posted: **Wed May 28, 2025 9:27 am**

Well, my bad too...
When using the HackNerdFont-Regular.ttf (that I provided a download link for above), then most of the fontawesome glyphs look partly cut-off -- and the workspace glyphs (like dice etc) do not show at all !!

However, when using an earlier version of Hack Regular Nerd Font Complete.ttf, then all glyphs are intact and display correctly...
Please feel free to download a copy of this 2022 version from my Google drive: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1hlMIlm ... sp=sharing

Posted: **Wed May 28, 2025 10:45 am**

@Melber @ceeslans I installed the Hack Nerd Font (https://www.nerdfonts.com/font-downloads) but the glyph's don't show up with fluxbox's toolbar.

@Jerry3904 @Adrian If you leave this variable blank, fluxbox names it Workspace by default. Would the system default language change it for the user?

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session.screen0.workspaceNames:

WS.jpg

Posted: **Wed May 28, 2025 10:48 am**

Pretty sure it would, but IMO it's ridiculously long.

Posted: **Wed May 28, 2025 11:13 am**

Why not unicode, as suggested in #1,
e.g:
U+2780 = ➀ U+2781 = ➁ U+2782 = ➂
U+2783 = ➃ U+2784 = ➄ U+2785 = ➅

U+2776 = ❶ U+2777 = ❷ U+2778 = ❸
U+2779 = ❹ U+277A = ❺ U+277B = ❻

U+2680 = ⚀ U+2681 = ⚁ U+2682 = ⚂
U+2683 = ⚃ U+2684 = ⚄ U+2685 = ⚅

Unicode: Ctrl+Shift+U and type hexcode

Posted: **Wed May 28, 2025 11:14 am**

I got just the codes when I tried it, but wasn't using control. That's still my first choice, so it'd be great if it worked.

Posted: **Wed May 28, 2025 11:35 am**

So this doesn't work for me.

BUT I did a quick search for "unicode circled numbers" and got to a website where I can just click on the numbers and get the unicode. Now at least I can see how it looks (and I like it).

black background

white background

Posted: **Wed May 28, 2025 12:00 pm**

@Jerry3904

edited init file in geany using ctrl shift U numbers

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session.screen0.workspaceNames: ➀ ⚀ ❶ , ➁ ⚁ ❷

tint2 config needed this line to control the size of the icons

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taskbar_name_font = Noto Sans 12

which gave me this

toolbar.png

Posted: **Wed May 28, 2025 4:56 pm**

🁢🀸 , 🁢🀿 , 🁢🁆 , 🁢🁍 , 🁢🁔 , 🁢🁛 , 🁢🁜 , 🁢🁝 , 🁢🁞 , 🁢🁟 , 🁢🁠 , 🁢🁡 ,

Posted: **Wed May 28, 2025 5:47 pm**

I think this needs a bit more readable text along with those... thingamabobs.

Posted: **Thu May 29, 2025 5:46 am**

Melber wrote: Wed May 28, 2025 12:00 pm @Jerry3904

edited init file in geany using ctrl shift U numbers
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session.screen0.workspaceNames: ➀ ⚀ ❶ , ➁ ⚁ ❷ 
tint2 config needed this line to control the size of the icons
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taskbar_name_font = Noto Sans 12
which gave me this

toolbar.png

Had another quick look. It works for tint2, but symbols are not displayed in fluxbox toolbar

Posted: **Thu May 29, 2025 7:11 am**

Had another quick look. It works for tint2, but symbols are not displayed in fluxbox toolbar

These symbols do show up correctly in fluxbox toolbar (and in rootmenu), provided a suitable font is used, such as DejaVu Sans (see below scrot)

Posted: **Thu May 29, 2025 7:43 am**

aha, that'll be it. I forgot about the font setting in the style. Cees to the rescue yet again.

Posted: **Thu May 29, 2025 8:19 am**

So the $60 question: is anybody (besides me) interested in using this as default workspace name? We'd have to consider how to enable it for general users, such as
--add at least one disabled alternative in init. It won't be persistent and maybe "categorize" becomes "MX default"
--add a short treatment to the MXFB Manual
--or something else

Posted: **Thu May 29, 2025 9:31 am**

I'd be in favour of symbols instead of the current W-1, W-2.
Will think about how to do it. Am coming around to the idea of setting the various toolbar fonts in the overlay file rather than in the style.

Posted: **Thu May 29, 2025 9:51 am**

I quite like the use of symbols for workspace names -- but to have a consistent display in other window-types/applications (like fluxbox rootmenu, or rofi's workspace-menu etc), such will need to be limited also to 'symbol-capable' fonts only.
My vote goes to simple 1,2,3,4 or W1,W2,W3,W4 and the likes ...

Posted: **Thu May 29, 2025 10:06 am**

Thanks both for the feedback.

Posted: **Thu May 29, 2025 10:56 pm**

Yes Melber, /overlay can control the workspacename font, because it is a Style variable (it can cause impact to the height of the fluxbox toolbar;)

session..WorkspaceNames: is not a Style variable, therefore it cannot be controlled by /overlay.

Jerry3904, "disabled alternative in /init." this type of thing, /init comments, can possibly be dissolved with a reconfigure of /init. Not durable assurance.
Is workspacename a place to insert an infinity glyph? wink.

Posted: **Fri May 30, 2025 6:49 am**

OK, I think we're done with this very minor topic and appreciate everyone's putting time and thought into it. My final thoughts:

--I would really like to see us move away from "W-1" for MX-25 which IMO is just plain old in more ways than one
--circled numbers appeal to me, but they are complicated for the end user and small (on tint2 at least)
--glyphs are even more complicated for end users
--I find that numbers alone are potentially ambiguous ("one what?")

Leaving me with a couple of options that I consider meaningful and simple for all (showing each highlighted):

w1, w2

#1, #2

Can we choose between those?

Posted: **Fri May 30, 2025 7:57 am**

I'd say we go for w1, w2
At least the preceding 'w' keeps some reference to 'workspace' - instead of '#' which could be interpreted as 'ranking' ...

Posted: **Fri May 30, 2025 8:06 am**

ceeslans wrote: Fri May 30, 2025 7:57 am I'd say we go for w1, w2
At least the preceding 'w' keeps some reference to 'workspace' - instead of '#' which could be interpreted as 'ranking' ...

I second the letter/number combo over the hashtag/number.

Since fluxbox refers to the virtual desktops as Workspaces, you could even do something like ws1, ws2, etc.

workspaces.jpg

Posted: **Fri May 30, 2025 8:25 am**

siamhie wrote: Fri May 30, 2025 8:06 am
Since fluxbox refers to the virtual desktops as Workspaces, you could even do something like ws1, ws2, etc.

workspaces.jpg

Good thought, let's add it. Here are the two finalists

Posted: **Fri May 30, 2025 8:50 am**

My vote would be for ws1.

You could even describe (to new users) what the ws represents on the panel tab of MX Tour.

mx-tour.jpg

Posted: **Fri May 30, 2025 1:00 pm**

My vote would be for ws1.

+1

Posted: **Fri May 30, 2025 2:58 pm**

I'm good with that, so will make it the beta default.

Thanks everybody, let's get on to other things.

Posted: **Sat May 31, 2025 2:40 pm**

Hello Jerry3904 and Everyone
Difficulty improving W-1 proves W-1 was a grand decision.
ws1 is grand, new.
wORKsPACE name needs to be this short to fit on tint2 vertical, right?
Settings that make mx-fluxbox live iso wonderful.
Will think it again when ws1 shows up in the toolbar, Thanks Jerry3904.

Agreed that the fluxbox translation of the word Workspace can be lengthy.
When willing to have longer workspace names
there is chance to create with the name
also a reminder of key navigation for dispatch go direct to show specific Workspace Desktop.
antiX fluxbox /keys for example supports "CTRL+F1 - CTRL+F12: Switch to the 1st → 12th workspace" so the workspace name can be Ctrl F1,ctrl+F2,ctrl F3,...rl F12.
Workspace name being key name requires not translation.

Is that a quick way to learn a keybind?
mx-fluxbox /keys hoping to have no conflicts with Shift F1-F12, so
the workspace name can be Shift F1,Shift+F2,Shift F3, [twelve=F12]
after adding the twelve keybinds in /keys
first delete or disable # an active Shift F1 :Exec mx-manual

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# open help
Ctrl F1 :Exec mxfb-help
# Shift F1 :Exec mx-manual

# Go to workspace F1 > F12
Shift F1 :Workspace 1
Shift F2 :Workspace 2
Shift F3 :Workspace 3
Shift F4 :Workspace 4
Shift F5 :Workspace 5
Shift F6 :Workspace 6
Shift F7 :Workspace 7
Shift F8 :Workspace 8
Shift F9 :Workspace 9
Shift F10 :Workspace 10
Shift F11 :Workspace 11
Shift F12 :Workspace 12

Shorten the key reminder workspace name by applying the symbol for Shift key is an up arrow.
WorkspaceNames: ^F1 ,^F2 ,^F3 ,^F4 ,^F5 ,^F6 ,^F7 ,^F8 ,^F9 ,^F10,^F11,^F12,

ws1,ws2, is grand.

Posted: **Sat May 31, 2025 3:40 pm**

Thanks, we'll take another look during the beta phase. But it's done for alpha and already uploaded for packaging.

Posted: **Sat May 31, 2025 5:47 pm**

i_ri wrote: Sat May 31, 2025 2:40 pm
also a reminder of key navigation for dispatch go direct to show specific Workspace Desktop.
antiX fluxbox /keys for example supports "CTRL+F1 - CTRL+F12: Switch to the 1st → 12th workspace" so the workspace name can be Ctrl F1,ctrl+F2,ctrl F3,...rl F12.
Workspace name being key name requires not translation.

Is that a quick way to learn a keybind?
mx-fluxbox /keys hoping to have no conflicts with Shift F1-F12, so
the workspace name can be Shift F1,Shift+F2,Shift F3, [twelve=F12]

I've changed my binding for mxfb-help to use Alt instead of Ctrl.

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# open help
Alt F1 :Exec mxfb-help
Shift F1 :Exec mx-manual

Ctrl is what I've been using to switch desktops on fluxbox for 20 years.

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# change to a specific workspace
Control F1 :Workspace 1
Control F2 :Workspace 2
Control F3 :Workspace 3
Control F4 :Workspace 4
Control F5 :Workspace 5
Control F6 :Workspace 6
Control F7 :Workspace 7
Control F8 :Workspace 8
Control F9 :Workspace 9
Control F10 :Workspace 10
Control F11 :Workspace 11
Control F12 :Workspace 12

Posted: **Sun Jun 01, 2025 7:25 pm**

Hello Jerry3904
ws1
To twelve and beyond.

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session.screen0.workspaceNames:	.\341\252\262ws1.,.w\341\252\262s2.,.w\341\252\262s3.,.w\341\252\262s4.,.w\341\252\262s5.,.w\341\252\262s6.,.w\341\252\262s7.,.w\341\252\262s8.,.w\341\252\262s9.,.w\341\252\262s10,.w\341\252\262s11,.w\341\252\262s12,

Posted: **Sun Jun 01, 2025 7:28 pm**

Nice to see, thanks.

Posted: **Sun Jun 01, 2025 8:27 pm**

Posted: **Sun Jun 01, 2025 9:07 pm**

Seriously troubled...

Posted: **Sun Jun 01, 2025 11:07 pm**

Jerry3904 wrote: Sun Jun 01, 2025 9:07 pm Seriously troubled...

I don't know what the limit is. That window took up almost a 1/3 of my 1440 desktop.

Posted: **Sun Jun 01, 2025 11:18 pm**

siamhie
I don't know what the limit Thanks for taking time to give us a chuckle.

It says just, "int" integer. siamhie, i think You just found infinity in fluxbox.

Posted: **Sun Jun 01, 2025 11:45 pm**

i_ri wrote: Sun Jun 01, 2025 11:18 pm siamhie
I don't know what the limit Thanks for taking time to give us a chuckle.
It says just, "int" integer. siamhie, i think You just found infinity in fluxbox.

All I did was set my variables to this and let fluxbox create the name for the workspace which defaults to Workspace.
I have since gone back to four workspaces.

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session.screen0.workspaceNames: 
session.screen0.workspaces:  250

Posted: **Mon Jun 02, 2025 7:51 am**

Jerry3904 wrote: Sun Jun 01, 2025 9:07 pm Seriously troubled...

Yes...this is beyond the pale...(this form of humor is for nerds)...(looking in a mirror, he says "wait a minute...I am a nerd!)

Posted: **Mon Jun 02, 2025 10:51 pm**

mxfb-workspaces512--ws1 default i am trying some changes for ws1 default

Posted: **Tue Jun 03, 2025 3:48 am**

I think i don't understand this and miss the most, but for my 2ct my workspaces were named like
Main, Mecanic, VM1, VM2, Secret, TopSecret, Heaven...

Posted: **Tue Jun 03, 2025 6:24 am**

This thread concerns default names and has concluded.

Topic closed..

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