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Cannot Install Wine
Posted: Mon May 12, 2025 11:51 am
by Michael_
When trying to install Wine from the MX Package Manager or using this guide:
https://gitlab.winehq.org/wine/wine/-/w ... ian-Ubuntu
I get the following error:
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Fehler traten auf beim Bearbeiten von:
/tmp/apt-dpkg-install-zeWEdp/192-libasound2-plugins_1.2.7.1-1_i386.deb
E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
After that the system is kinda corrupted and i cannot install other things aswell.
I also cannot remove it.
I tried reinstalling MX Linux, Updating the System and even upgrading the Kernel with no luck.
I'm using the latest Version of MX Linux KDE.
I tried installing both staging and stable versions of Wine resulting in the same error.
If i install Wine from Discover Store it works BUT that version of wine (8.0) is too old so my application does not work properly. (It works properly in a newer wine version on another computer running another Linux Distro)
Maybe there is a way to install Wine Version 9 instead of 10 ? Maybe that would work?
I really hope you guys know the solution because at this point i don't know what to do anymore.
Re: Cannot Install Wine
Posted: Mon May 12, 2025 12:04 pm
by CharlesV
Please post your QSI. ( MX Menu, Quick System Info, Copy for Forum, Paste here )
Re: Cannot Install Wine
Posted: Mon May 12, 2025 12:28 pm
by Michael_
CharlesV wrote: Mon May 12, 2025 12:04 pm
Please post your QSI. ( MX Menu, Quick System Info, Copy for Forum, Paste here )
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System:
Kernel: 6.1.0-33-amd64 [6.1.133-1] arch: x86_64 bits: 64 compiler: gcc v: 12.2.0
parameters: BOOT_IMAGE=/boot/vmlinuz-6.1.0-33-amd64 root=UUID=<filter> ro quiet splash
Desktop: KDE Plasma v: 5.27.5 wm: kwin_x11 vt: 7 dm: SDDM Distro: MX-23.6_KDE_x64 Libretto
April 13 2025 base: Debian GNU/Linux 12 (bookworm)
Machine:
Type: Kvm System: Supermicro product: SYS-551A-T v: 0123456789 serial: <superuser required>
Chassis: type: 1 v: 0123456789 serial: <superuser required>
Mobo: Supermicro model: X13SWA-TF v: 1.01 serial: <superuser required> UEFI: American
Megatrends LLC. v: 2.1b date: 05/28/2024
CPU:
Info: model: Intel Xeon w9-3595X bits: 64 type: MT MCP arch: Sapphire Rapids level: v4
note: check built: 2023+ process: Intel 7 (10nm ESF) family: 6 model-id: 0x8F (143) stepping: 8
microcode: 0x2B000620
Topology: cpus: 1x cores: 60 tpc: 2 threads: 120 smt: enabled cache: L1: 4.7 MiB desc: d-60x48
KiB; i-60x32 KiB L2: 120 MiB desc: 60x2 MiB L3: 112.5 MiB desc: 1x112.5 MiB
Speed (MHz): avg: 799 high: 800 min/max: 800/4600:4700:4800 scaling: driver: intel_pstate
governor: powersave cores: 1: 800 2: 800 3: 800 4: 800 5: 800 6: 800 7: 800 8: 800 9: 800 10: 800
11: 800 12: 800 13: 799 14: 800 15: 800 16: 800 17: 800 18: 800 19: 800 20: 800 21: 800 22: 800
23: 800 24: 800 25: 800 26: 800 27: 800 28: 800 29: 800 30: 800 31: 800 32: 800 33: 800 34: 800
35: 800 36: 800 37: 800 38: 800 39: 800 40: 800 41: 800 42: 800 43: 800 44: 800 45: 800 46: 800
47: 800 48: 800 49: 800 50: 800 51: 800 52: 800 53: 800 54: 800 55: 800 56: 800 57: 800 58: 800
59: 800 60: 800 61: 800 62: 800 63: 800 64: 800 65: 800 66: 800 67: 800 68: 800 69: 800 70: 800
71: 800 72: 800 73: 800 74: 800 75: 800 76: 800 77: 800 78: 800 79: 800 80: 800 81: 800 82: 800
83: 800 84: 800 85: 800 86: 800 87: 800 88: 800 89: 800 90: 800 91: 800 92: 800 93: 800 94: 800
95: 800 96: 800 97: 800 98: 800 99: 800 100: 800 101: 800 102: 800 103: 800 104: 800 105: 800
106: 800 107: 800 108: 800 109: 800 110: 800 111: 800 112: 800 113: 800 114: 800 115: 800
116: 800 117: 800 118: 800 119: 800 120: 800 bogomips: 478080
Flags: avx avx2 ht lm nx pae sse sse2 sse3 sse4_1 sse4_2 ssse3 vmx
Vulnerabilities:
Type: gather_data_sampling status: Not affected
Type: itlb_multihit status: Not affected
Type: l1tf status: Not affected
Type: mds status: Not affected
Type: meltdown status: Not affected
Type: mmio_stale_data status: Not affected
Type: reg_file_data_sampling status: Not affected
Type: retbleed status: Not affected
Type: spec_rstack_overflow status: Not affected
Type: spec_store_bypass mitigation: Speculative Store Bypass disabled via prctl
Type: spectre_v1 mitigation: usercopy/swapgs barriers and __user pointer sanitization
Type: spectre_v2 mitigation: Enhanced / Automatic IBRS; IBPB: conditional; RSB filling;
PBRSB-eIBRS: SW sequence; BHI: BHI_DIS_S
Type: srbds status: Not affected
Type: tsx_async_abort status: Not affected
Graphics:
Device-1: ASPEED Graphics Family vendor: Super Micro driver: N/A alternate: ast bus-ID: 04:00.0
chip-ID: 1a03:2000 class-ID: 0300
Device-2: AMD Navi 31 [Radeon Pro W7800] driver: amdgpu v: kernel arch: RDNA-3 code: Navi-3x
process: TSMC n5 (5nm) built: 2022+ pcie: gen: 4 speed: 16 GT/s lanes: 16 ports: active: DP-4
empty: DP-1,DP-2,DP-3 bus-ID: 18:00.0 chip-ID: 1002:745e class-ID: 0300
Display: x11 server: X.Org v: 1.21.1.7 with: Xwayland v: 22.1.9 compositor: kwin_x11 driver: X:
loaded: amdgpu unloaded: fbdev,modesetting,vesa dri: radeonsi gpu: amdgpu display-ID: :0
screens: 1
Screen-1: 0 s-res: 1920x1080 s-dpi: 96 s-size: 507x285mm (19.96x11.22") s-diag: 582mm (22.9")
Monitor-1: DP-4 mapped: DisplayPort-3 model: EIZO NANAO EV2785 serial: <filter> built: 2022
res: 1920x1080 hz: 60 dpi: 82 gamma: 1.2 size: 597x336mm (23.5x13.23") diag: 685mm (27")
ratio: 16:9 modes: max: 3840x2160 min: 720x400
API: OpenGL v: 4.6 Mesa 24.2.8-1mx23ahs renderer: AMD Radeon Pro W7800 (radeonsi navi31 LLVM
15.0.6 DRM 3.49 6.1.0-33-amd64) direct-render: Yes
Audio:
Device-1: Intel Alder Lake-S HD Audio vendor: Super Micro driver: snd_hda_intel v: kernel
alternate: snd_sof_pci_intel_tgl bus-ID: 00:1f.3 chip-ID: 8086:7ad0 class-ID: 0403
Device-2: AMD Navi 31 HDMI/DP Audio driver: snd_hda_intel v: kernel pcie: gen: 4 speed: 16 GT/s
lanes: 16 bus-ID: 18:00.1 chip-ID: 1002:ab30 class-ID: 0403
Device-3: VIA VT1720/24 [Envy24PT/HT] PCI Multi-Channel Audio driver: snd_ice1724 v: kernel
bus-ID: cb:00.0 chip-ID: 1412:1724 class-ID: 0401
API: ALSA v: k6.1.0-33-amd64 status: kernel-api tools: alsamixer,amixer
Server-1: PipeWire v: 1.0.0 status: active with: 1: pipewire-pulse status: active
2: wireplumber status: active 3: pipewire-alsa type: plugin 4: pw-jack type: plugin
tools: pactl,pw-cat,pw-cli,wpctl
Network:
Device-1: Intel I210 Gigabit Network vendor: Super Micro driver: igb v: kernel pcie: gen: 1
speed: 2.5 GT/s lanes: 1 port: 2000 bus-ID: 02:00.0 chip-ID: 8086:1533 class-ID: 0200
IF: eth1 state: down mac: <filter>
Device-2: Aquantia AQC113C NBase-T/IEEE 802.3an Ethernet [Marvell Scalable mGig]
vendor: Super Micro driver: atlantic v: kernel pcie: gen: 3 speed: 8 GT/s lanes: 2 port: N/A
bus-ID: 05:00.0 chip-ID: 1d6a:14c0 class-ID: 0200 temp: 45.0 C
IF: eth0 state: up speed: 1000 Mbps duplex: full mac: <filter>
Device-3: Intel Ethernet X550 vendor: Super Micro driver: ixgbe v: kernel pcie: gen: 3
speed: 8 GT/s lanes: 4 port: N/A bus-ID: 34:00.0 chip-ID: 8086:1563 class-ID: 0200
IF: eth2 state: down mac: <filter>
Device-4: Intel Ethernet X550 vendor: Super Micro driver: ixgbe v: kernel pcie: gen: 3
speed: 8 GT/s lanes: 4 port: N/A bus-ID: 34:00.1 chip-ID: 8086:1563 class-ID: 0200
IF: eth3 state: down mac: <filter>
IF-ID-1: usb0 state: unknown speed: -1 duplex: half mac: <filter>
Bluetooth:
Device-1: Insyde RNDIS/Ethernet Gadget type: USB driver: rndis_host v: kernel bus-ID: 1-1.2:6
chip-ID: 0b1f:03ee class-ID: 0a00
Drives:
Local Storage: total: 50.5 TiB used: 30.32 GiB (0.1%)
SMART Message: Unable to run smartctl. Root privileges required.
ID-1: /dev/nvme0n1 maj-min: 259:0 vendor: Micron model: 7450 MTFDKBG3T8TFR size: 3.49 TiB
block-size: physical: 4096 B logical: 512 B speed: 63.2 Gb/s lanes: 4 type: SSD serial: <filter>
rev: E2MU200 temp: 50.9 C scheme: GPT
ID-2: /dev/nvme1n1 maj-min: 259:2 vendor: Micron model: 7450 MTFDKBG3T8TFR size: 3.49 TiB
block-size: physical: 4096 B logical: 512 B speed: 63.2 Gb/s lanes: 4 type: SSD serial: <filter>
rev: E2MU200 temp: 48.9 C
ID-3: /dev/nvme2n1 maj-min: 259:1 vendor: Micron model: 7450 MTFDKBG3T8TFR size: 3.49 TiB
block-size: physical: 4096 B logical: 512 B speed: 63.2 Gb/s lanes: 4 type: SSD serial: <filter>
rev: E2MU200 temp: 42.9 C
ID-4: /dev/sda maj-min: 8:0 vendor: Seagate model: ST22000NM001E-3HM103 size: 20.01 TiB
block-size: physical: 4096 B logical: 512 B speed: 6.0 Gb/s type: HDD rpm: 7200 serial: <filter>
rev: SN02
ID-5: /dev/sdb maj-min: 8:16 vendor: Seagate model: ST22000NM001E-3HM103 size: 20.01 TiB
block-size: physical: 4096 B logical: 512 B speed: 6.0 Gb/s type: HDD rpm: 7200 serial: <filter>
rev: SN02
Partition:
ID-1: / raw-size: 3.49 TiB size: 3.44 TiB (98.40%) used: 30.32 GiB (0.9%) fs: ext4
dev: /dev/nvme0n1p2 maj-min: 259:4
ID-2: /boot/efi raw-size: 256 MiB size: 252 MiB (98.46%) used: 274 KiB (0.1%) fs: vfat
dev: /dev/nvme0n1p1 maj-min: 259:3
Swap:
Kernel: swappiness: 15 (default 60) cache-pressure: 100 (default)
ID-1: swap-1 type: file size: 22 GiB used: 0 KiB (0.0%) priority: -2 file: /swap/swap
Sensors:
System Temperatures: cpu: 32.0 C mobo: N/A gpu: amdgpu temp: 38.0 C mem: 44.0 C
Fan Speeds (RPM): N/A gpu: amdgpu fan: 1020
Repos:
Packages: pm: dpkg pkgs: 2499 libs: 1338 tools: apt,apt-get,aptitude,nala pm: rpm pkgs: 0
pm: flatpak pkgs: 0
No active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list
Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian-stable-updates.list
1: deb http://deb.debian.org/debian bookworm-updates main contrib non-free non-free-firmware
Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian.list
1: deb http://deb.debian.org/debian bookworm main contrib non-free non-free-firmware
2: deb http://security.debian.org/debian-security bookworm-security main contrib non-free non-free-firmware
Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/mx.list
1: deb http://ftp.halifax.rwth-aachen.de/mxlinux/packages/mx/repo/ bookworm main non-free
2: deb http://ftp.halifax.rwth-aachen.de/mxlinux/packages/mx/repo/ bookworm ahs
Info:
Processes: 1193 Uptime: 1m wakeups: 1 Memory: 503.34 GiB used: 6.57 GiB (1.3%) Init: SysVinit
v: 3.06 runlevel: 5 default: graphical tool: systemctl Compilers: gcc: 12.2.0 alt: 12
Client: shell wrapper v: 5.2.15-release inxi: 3.3.26
Boot Mode: UEFI
It's a pretty fancy workstation.
Re: Cannot Install Wine
Posted: Mon May 12, 2025 12:57 pm
by Stevo
You may have a corrupted file of libasound2-plugins_1.2.7.1-1_i386.deb in /var/cache/apt/archives/, and apt is hung up not being able to finish installing Wine. Try deleting that file:
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sudo rm /var/cache/apt/archives/libasound2-plugins_1.2.7.1-1_i386.deb
And then try
To recover from a failed apt installation, try running sudo apt update && sudo apt install -f first. If that doesn't work, consider removing the problematic package, checking for conflicting packages, and/or fixing broken dependencies using sudo dpkg --configure -a or sudo apt --fix-broken install. Rebooting may also help resolve issues.
Yes, that is a nice workstation! I bet it could build a Liquorix kernel really quickly.
I wonder how it would run on a newer AHS kernel to go with the rest of your AHS packages. That's easy to add without removing the standard Debian kernel, though that also needs an update to
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Linux dellmx23 6.1.0-34-amd64 #1 SMP PREEMPT_DYNAMIC Debian 6.1.135-1 (2025-04-25)
Re: Cannot Install Wine
Posted: Mon May 12, 2025 3:48 pm
by Michael_
Stevo wrote: Mon May 12, 2025 12:57 pm
You may have a corrupted file of libasound2-plugins_1.2.7.1-1_i386.deb in /var/cache/apt/archives/, and apt is hung up not being able to finish installing Wine. Try deleting that file:
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sudo rm /var/cache/apt/archives/libasound2-plugins_1.2.7.1-1_i386.deb
And then try
To recover from a failed apt installation, try running sudo apt update && sudo apt install -f first. If that doesn't work, consider removing the problematic package, checking for conflicting packages, and/or fixing broken dependencies using sudo dpkg --configure -a or sudo apt --fix-broken install. Rebooting may also help resolve issues.
I reinstalled MX Linux and then tried installing Wine again and it's the same story.
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Fehler traten auf beim Bearbeiten von:
/tmp/apt-dpkg-install-zeWEdp/192-libasound2-plugins_1.2.7.1-1_i386.deb
E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
I tried your suggestions with no success:
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michael@mx:~
$ sudo rm /var/cache/apt/archives/libasound2-plugins_1.2.7.1-1_i386.deb
michael@mx:~
$ sudo apt update && sudo apt install -f
OK:1 http://ftp.halifax.rwth-aachen.de/mxlinux/packages/mx/repo bookworm InRelease
OK:2 http://deb.debian.org/debian bookworm-updates InRelease
OK:3 http://security.debian.org/debian-security bookworm-security InRelease
OK:4 http://deb.debian.org/debian bookworm InRelease
OK:5 https://dl.winehq.org/wine-builds/debian bookworm InRelease
Paketlisten werden gelesen… Fertig
Abhängigkeitsbaum wird aufgebaut… Fertig
Statusinformationen werden eingelesen… Fertig
Aktualisierung für 79 Pakete verfügbar. Führen Sie »apt list --upgradable« aus, um sie anzuzeigen.
Paketlisten werden gelesen… Fertig
Abhängigkeitsbaum wird aufgebaut… Fertig
Statusinformationen werden eingelesen… Fertig
Abhängigkeiten werden korrigiert … Fertig
Die folgenden zusätzlichen Pakete werden installiert:
libasound2-plugins:i386
Die folgenden NEUEN Pakete werden installiert:
libasound2-plugins:i386
0 aktualisiert, 1 neu installiert, 0 zu entfernen und 79 nicht aktualisiert.
250 nicht vollständig installiert oder entfernt.
Es müssen 77,2 kB an Archiven heruntergeladen werden.
Nach dieser Operation werden 376 kB Plattenplatz zusätzlich benutzt.
Möchten Sie fortfahren? [J/n] j
Holen:1 http://deb.debian.org/debian bookworm/main i386 libasound2-plugins i386 1.2.7.1-1 [77,2 kB]
Es wurden 77,2 kB in 0 s geholt (772 kB/s).
(Lese Datenbank ... 342114 Dateien und Verzeichnisse sind derzeit installiert.)
Vorbereitung zum Entpacken von .../libasound2-plugins_1.2.7.1-1_i386.deb ...
Entpacken von libasound2-plugins:i386 (1.2.7.1-1) ...
dpkg: Fehler beim Bearbeiten des Archivs /var/cache/apt/archives/libasound2-plugins_1.2.7.1-1_i386.deb (--unpack):
Versuch, gemeinsam benutztes »/usr/share/doc/libasound2-plugins/README-arcam-av« zu überschreiben, welches verschieden von anderen Instanzen des Paketes libasound2-plugins:i386 ist
Fehler traten auf beim Bearbeiten von:
/var/cache/apt/archives/libasound2-plugins_1.2.7.1-1_i386.deb
E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
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$ sudo apt --fix-broken install
Paketlisten werden gelesen… Fertig
Abhängigkeitsbaum wird aufgebaut… Fertig
Statusinformationen werden eingelesen… Fertig
Abhängigkeiten werden korrigiert … Fertig
Die folgenden zusätzlichen Pakete werden installiert:
libasound2-plugins:i386
Die folgenden NEUEN Pakete werden installiert:
libasound2-plugins:i386
0 aktualisiert, 1 neu installiert, 0 zu entfernen und 79 nicht aktualisiert.
250 nicht vollständig installiert oder entfernt.
Es müssen noch 0 B von 77,2 kB an Archiven heruntergeladen werden.
Nach dieser Operation werden 376 kB Plattenplatz zusätzlich benutzt.
Möchten Sie fortfahren? [J/n] j
(Lese Datenbank ... 342114 Dateien und Verzeichnisse sind derzeit installiert.)
Vorbereitung zum Entpacken von .../libasound2-plugins_1.2.7.1-1_i386.deb ...
Entpacken von libasound2-plugins:i386 (1.2.7.1-1) ...
dpkg: Fehler beim Bearbeiten des Archivs /var/cache/apt/archives/libasound2-plugins_1.2.7.1-1_i386.deb (--unpack):
Versuch, gemeinsam benutztes »/usr/share/doc/libasound2-plugins/README-arcam-av« zu überschreiben, welches verschieden von anderen Instanzen des Paketes libasound2-plugins:i386 ist
Fehler traten auf beim Bearbeiten von:
/var/cache/apt/archives/libasound2-plugins_1.2.7.1-1_i386.deb
E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
I don'*t really know what to do from here. Any Ideas?
At this point my only idea would be to install another Distro like Linux Mint and see if it works but i would really prefer to keep using MX Linux KDE if possible.
Re: Cannot Install Wine
Posted: Mon May 12, 2025 5:04 pm
by FullScale4Me
Try using the MX Linux supported process to install Wine.
https://mxlinux.org/wiki/system/wine/
Re: Cannot Install Wine
Posted: Mon May 12, 2025 7:36 pm
by Michael_
Installing using the MX Package Manager was the first thing that i did.
Does not matter if i use the MX Package Manager or the Instructions on the Wine Website. Same Error in both cases.
Re: Cannot Install Wine
Posted: Mon May 12, 2025 10:54 pm
by FullScale4Me
Michael_ wrote: Mon May 12, 2025 7:36 pm
Installing using the MX Package Manager was the first thing that i did.
Does not matter if i use the MX Package Manager or the Instructions on the Wine Website. Same Error in both cases.
Please respond with your MX Package Installer logs. MX Quick System info - mxpi.log. There may be several install logs above/before the Wine effort. Only that is needed.
Re: Cannot Install Wine
Posted: Mon May 12, 2025 11:10 pm
by timkb4cq
The error you are getting is that the file
/usr/share/doc/libasound2-plugins/README-arcam-av
is different in the libasound2-plugins:i386 deb than is already on the system already so it doesn't want to overwrite it.
Given that it's just a text file about using a particular piece of hardware, I would delete it and try installing the deb again
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sudo rm /usr/share/doc/libasound2-plugins/README-arcam-av
Re: Cannot Install Wine
Posted: Tue May 13, 2025 12:26 pm
by Michael_
timkb4cq wrote: Mon May 12, 2025 11:10 pm
The error you are getting is that the file
/usr/share/doc/libasound2-plugins/README-arcam-av
is different in the libasound2-plugins:i386 deb than is already on the system already so it doesn't want to overwrite it.
Given that it's just a text file about using a particular piece of hardware, I would delete it and try installing the deb again
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sudo rm /usr/share/doc/libasound2-plugins/README-arcam-av
This was the solution. THANK YOU VERY MUCH!
FYI: In Linux Mint (Ubuntu Based) this was not an issue and in QuarkOS (Ubuntu) i had the same problem.
Unfortunately now i have another Wine related problem.
The reason i need wine in the first place is an over 10 year old app named "FL Studio 11.1.1" (First 64bit version and last version before they made major changes)
The Program basically works BUT if i try loading the Demo Project i get a bunch of errors like this:
and also a few audio files are missing.
If i open a new project everything appears to be working fine but loading the demo project causes errors.
If i install linux mint cinnamon (ubuntu based) or QuarkOS (ubuntu based) or Q4OS (Debian based) THIS PROBLEM DOES NOT EXIST. So it almost seems to be MX Linux related.
This happens no matter if i install Wine using the MX Package Manager (9.0 Staging), WineHQ Website Instructions (10.0 Stable) or Discover Store (8.0 Stable).
Any ideas what this is and how to solve it?
I know i will have to replace this program with a native Linux App like Bitwig Studio in the future but for now i still need FL 11.
The Demo Version of FL Studio 11.1.1 can be downloaded here:
https://archive.org/details/flstudio-11.1.1
Re: Cannot Install Wine
Posted: Wed May 14, 2025 5:25 am
by Michael_
Well after working with FL 11 for a couple hours it seems to work okay.
But there are some factory audio files missing and opening the demo project results in errors as shown in the picture in my last post.
Of course i'm a bit worried if i can trust the app in this condition.
If someone has any ideas what i could try please let me know. Otherwise i think i have to leave it like that for now.
Maybe any log files that could be of interest?
Re: Cannot Install Wine
Posted: Wed May 14, 2025 10:38 am
by Kester
This is just a suggestion that may be useful if you have old Windows operating system discs and provides an alternative to Wine. Setr up Windows as a virtual operating system using VirtualBox or similar. I run Windows XP professional this way (albeit with it isolated from the internet) and run a number of old windows programs in it - it also allows be to access certain peripherals not compatible with Linux. Dual booting is another option but that might be a step too far for some.
Re: Cannot Install Wine
Posted: Wed May 14, 2025 11:16 am
by Michael_
Kester wrote: Wed May 14, 2025 10:38 am
This is just a suggestion that may be useful if you have old Windows operating system discs and provides an alternative to Wine. Setr up Windows as a virtual operating system using VirtualBox or similar. I run Windows XP professional this way (albeit with it isolated from the internet) and run a number of old windows programs in it - it also allows be to access certain peripherals not compatible with Linux. Dual booting is another option but that might be a step too far for some.
Well it already seems to run good enough to not deal with a VM.
A VM would also be not ideal for doing Audio Work. Assuming it does work good enough the workflow would still suck.
I had a dual boot until now but i decided to not do that anymore starting with this new machine.
Long Term Plan is looking at Bitwig Studio and hoping this will be a good native linux replacement.
So again if someone has an idea what this could be and how to fix it please let me know.
I would also happily provide logs if you tell me which ones.
Otherwise i will ignore the error and missing audio files for now and hope this is really all that's not working correctly.
But i'm sure it could be fixed as its working fine on other linux distros.
Re: Cannot Install Wine
Posted: Wed May 14, 2025 11:16 am
by Nokkaelaein
Kester wrote: Wed May 14, 2025 10:38 am
This is just a suggestion that may be useful if you have old Windows operating system discs and provides an alternative to Wine. Setr up Windows as a virtual operating system using VirtualBox or similar.
This is generally a good way to go, for many purposes where a compatibility layer for running the binaries directly isn't working well. However, in this particular case, there is a HUGE catch: professional digital audio workstation software needs to have rock solid audio hardware implementation and stable, predictable, efficient low-latency driver support. Virtualization in Virtualbox or similar will not really work for that. If the idea is not to run such software in such a manner that they should react to user input in realtime, it can work (in the sense that you do get sound out of it, after a little pause, when pressing play
, hearing the project, using just a regular driver with ample buffers). For realtime stuff that this software is most often used for, not so much.
Re: Cannot Install Wine
Posted: Wed May 14, 2025 4:58 pm
by Michael_
I think i got a bit further with this but i still need help.
To recap i get this error message when loading the demo project:
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Access violation at address 00000000004A5702D in module 'Harmor_x64.dll'. Read of address 000002D4C22BE910.
I now started fl from terminal using:
When opening the Demo Project i get this error in the terminal:
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0128:err:winediag:NtCreateFile Too many open files, ulimit -n probably needs to be increased
0128:fixme:thread:GetThreadUILanguage : stub, returning default language.
0128:fixme:nls:RtlGetThreadPreferredUILanguages 00000038, 0055C1E4, 00000000 0055C20C
0128:fixme:nls:get_dummy_preferred_ui_language (0x38 0x407 0055C1E4 00000000 0055C20C) returning a dummy value (current locale)
0128:fixme:nls:RtlGetThreadPreferredUILanguages 00000038, 0055C1E4, 8631A680 0055C20C
0128:fixme:nls:get_dummy_preferred_ui_language (0x38 0x407 0055C1E4 8631A680 0055C20C) returning a dummy value (current locale)
0128:fixme:thread:GetThreadUILanguage : stub, returning default language.
0128:fixme:nls:RtlGetThreadPreferredUILanguages 00000038, 0055C1E4, 00000000 0055C20C
0128:fixme:nls:get_dummy_preferred_ui_language (0x38 0x407 0055C1E4 00000000 0055C20C) returning a dummy value (current locale)
0128:fixme:nls:RtlGetThreadPreferredUILanguages 00000038, 0055C1E4, 85EFA680 0055C20C
0128:fixme:nls:get_dummy_preferred_ui_language (0x38 0x407 0055C1E4 85EFA680 0055C20C) returning a dummy value (current locale)
0128:fixme:thread:GetThreadUILanguage : stub, returning default language.
0128:fixme:nls:RtlGetThreadPreferredUILanguages 00000038, 0055C1E4, 00000000 0055C20C
0128:fixme:nls:get_dummy_preferred_ui_language (0x38 0x407 0055C1E4 00000000 0055C20C) returning a dummy value (current locale)
0128:fixme:nls:RtlGetThreadPreferredUILanguages 00000038, 0055C1E4, 85973350 0055C20C
0128:fixme:nls:get_dummy_preferred_ui_language (0x38 0x407 0055C1E4 85973350 0055C20C) returning a dummy value (current locale)
According to ChatGPT this line is interesting:
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0128:err:winediag:NtCreateFile Too many open files, ulimit -n probably needs to be increased
ChatGPT suggested increasing the limit but all the solutions it gave me did not work including
returns
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bash: ulimit: open files: Kann die Grenze nicht ändern: Die Operation ist nicht erlaubt
I'm not an MX Linux expert. Does somebody know how i can increase this limit?
I think there is a pretty high chance that this is my issue.
Re: Cannot Install Wine
Posted: Wed May 14, 2025 8:56 pm
by wdscharff
Google (NOT chatAIGPTmurks ;-} ) said:
https://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/linux-inc ... pen-files/
theres a lot of links to the theme "ulimit", also in german ;-}
Re: Cannot Install Wine
Posted: Wed May 14, 2025 9:13 pm
by Stevo
If you're not bound to FL Studio, AVLinux may be able to suggest an alternative. I think you really should be running a Liquorix kernel for the low latency, too, usually a prerequisite for audio work.
Re: Cannot Install Wine
Posted: Thu May 15, 2025 3:55 am
by Michael_
I found this article to be pretty confusing / not very easy & straight forward.
This helped me fix it in the end:
https://github.com/ethereum/go-ethereum/issues/17312
But i did it a little different.
1. Open Terminal and execute: (You can also use nano etc.)
2. Below (this might vary a bit depending on your configuration):
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#* soft core 0
#root hard core 100000
#* hard rss 10000
#@student hard nproc 20
#@faculty soft nproc 20
#@faculty hard nproc 50
#ftp hard nproc 0
#ftp - chroot /ftp
#@student - maxlogins 4
add: (replace with your username)
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michael soft nofile 100000
michael hard nofile 200000
3. Save (will ask for root password)
4. Reboot
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FL Studio 11 is now working fine, no more errors when loading the demo project.
I will now try the Liquorix kernel to see if i really get lower latency with that. :)
Re: Cannot Install Wine
Posted: Thu May 15, 2025 6:04 am
by Michael_
Michael_ wrote: Thu May 15, 2025 3:55 am
I will now try the Liquorix kernel to see if i really get lower latency with that. :)
The answer to this question is NO. The performance is even a bit worse and i found the reason by accident.
The Liquorix Kernel limits my maximum CPU Clock Speed to 2 GHZ which is the base clock speed. In other Words it disables Turbo Boost.
Reverting back to the Standard Kernel Turbo Boost is enabled and working again letting me get speeds up to 4.7GHZ.
Needless to say that 2GHZ is rather low for realtime audio production.
But this is also a limitation of my system (W9-3595x with 60 cores, 120 Threads & 512GB RAM) which is not perfect for Audio Processing to begin with because from what i understand this CPU/Platform has a somewhat higher latency in general.
Running FL Studio in Wine doesn't make things better. I need 4096 samples Buffersize to run the demo project. Smaller Projects i can run with 512 samples.
In Bitwig i can get down to 128 samples with a few minor dropouts but still very usable or 256 samples and the demo project plays perfectly.
But i kinda expected this and it's not an issue because this is not the main application for this system.
Running multiple Virtual Machines is. And from what i read i should probably better stay away from the Liquorix kernel for that and if i prioritize Stability & Reliability in general.
Re: Cannot Install Wine
Posted: Thu May 15, 2025 9:15 am
by Michael_
Michael_ wrote: Thu May 15, 2025 6:04 am
The Liquorix Kernel limits my maximum CPU Clock Speed to 2 GHZ which is the base clock speed. In other Words it disables Turbo Boost.
Reverting back to the Standard Kernel Turbo Boost is enabled and working again letting me get speeds up to 4.7GHZ.
I need to correct myself since this is not entirely true.
If using "cpupower" it reports that the max clock speed is 2 GHZ. I cannot set the minimum clock speed above 2GHZ using "cpupower" when using Liquorix Kernel.
BUT inxi -Fz still reports some cores clocking at 3 to 4 ghz under load. So it seems like it does NOT disable Turbo Boost but still prevents me from setting a higher min clock frequency than 2 GHZ. With the Standard Kernel it allows me to do this though.