MX Linux Forum

Posted: **Tue Apr 22, 2025 3:49 pm**

Hello, I've used MX Linux years ago. Back then there was an MX Tool called Menu Editor. When used with the buildin KDE Menu Editor it created a mess. Also VPNs created issues because of the lack of systemd.

Nowadays these problems are gone. I'm impressed to see how fast MX Linux boots up and shut down. I tested a lot of distros and they are all slow, maybe because of systemd. Also MX Linux is one of the few Debian based that comes preinstalled with basic packages like "command-not found" (Debian is basically like a skeleton, designed to the point were it barely works). The only distro I've found that is better in this regard is LMDE. I would suggest to look at the packages that comes preinstalled there because some important packages like "gamemode" are missing.

The problem I have now is that the font is coarse, like there is no font smoothing. I never had such an issue before. I installed the nvdida driver, but the problem persists.

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System:
  Kernel: 6.1.0-29-amd64 [6.1.123-1] arch: x86_64 bits: 64 compiler: gcc v: 12.2.0
    parameters: BOOT_IMAGE=/boot/vmlinuz-6.1.0-29-amd64 root=UUID=<filter> ro quiet splash
  Desktop: KDE Plasma v: 5.27.5 wm: kwin_x11 vt: 7 dm: SDDM Distro: MX-23.5_KDE_x64 Libretto Jan
    12 2025 base: Debian GNU/Linux 12 (bookworm)
Machine:
  Type: Desktop System: FUJITSU product: ESPRIMO P400 v: N/A serial: <superuser required> Chassis:
    type: 6 v: C$PHW3 serial: <superuser required>
  Mobo: FUJITSU model: D2990-A2 v: S26361-D2990-A2 serial: <superuser required> UEFI: FUJITSU //
    American Megatrends v: 4.6.5.3 R1.30.0 for D2990-A2x date: 04/22/2015
CPU:
  Info: model: Intel Core i5-3470 bits: 64 type: MCP arch: Ivy Bridge gen: core 3 level: v2
    built: 2012-15 process: Intel 22nm family: 6 model-id: 0x3A (58) stepping: 9 microcode: 0x21
  Topology: cpus: 1x cores: 4 smt: <unsupported> cache: L1: 256 KiB desc: d-4x32 KiB; i-4x32 KiB
    L2: 1024 KiB desc: 4x256 KiB L3: 6 MiB desc: 1x6 MiB
  Speed (MHz): avg: 2022 high: 2275 min/max: 1600/3600 scaling: driver: intel_cpufreq
    governor: ondemand cores: 1: 2029 2: 1803 3: 1984 4: 2275 bogomips: 25541
  Flags: avx ht lm nx pae sse sse2 sse3 sse4_1 sse4_2 ssse3 vmx
  Vulnerabilities:
  Type: gather_data_sampling status: Not affected
  Type: itlb_multihit status: KVM: VMX disabled
  Type: l1tf mitigation: PTE Inversion; VMX: conditional cache flushes, SMT disabled
  Type: mds mitigation: Clear CPU buffers; SMT disabled
  Type: meltdown mitigation: PTI
  Type: mmio_stale_data status: Unknown: No mitigations
  Type: reg_file_data_sampling status: Not affected
  Type: retbleed status: Not affected
  Type: spec_rstack_overflow status: Not affected
  Type: spec_store_bypass mitigation: Speculative Store Bypass disabled via prctl
  Type: spectre_v1 mitigation: usercopy/swapgs barriers and __user pointer sanitization
  Type: spectre_v2 mitigation: Retpolines; IBPB: conditional; IBRS_FW; STIBP: disabled; RSB
    filling; PBRSB-eIBRS: Not affected; BHI: Not affected
  Type: srbds status: Vulnerable: No microcode
  Type: tsx_async_abort status: Not affected
Graphics:
  Device-1: Intel Xeon E3-1200 v2/3rd Gen Core processor Graphics vendor: Fujitsu Solutions
    driver: i915 v: kernel arch: Gen-7 process: Intel 22nm built: 2012-13 ports: active: none
    empty: DP-1,HDMI-A-1,VGA-1 bus-ID: 00:02.0 chip-ID: 8086:0152 class-ID: 0380
  Device-2: NVIDIA GP107 [GeForce GTX 1050] vendor: PC Partner / Sapphire driver: nvidia
    v: 535.216.03 non-free: 530.xx+ status: current (as of 2023-03) arch: Pascal code: GP10x
    process: TSMC 16nm built: 2016-21 pcie: gen: 3 speed: 8 GT/s lanes: 16 bus-ID: 01:00.0
    chip-ID: 10de:1c81 class-ID: 0300
  Display: x11 server: X.Org v: 1.21.1.7 with: Xwayland v: 22.1.9 compositor: kwin_x11 driver: X:
    loaded: modesetting,nvidia unloaded: fbdev,nouveau,vesa alternate: nv dri: crocus
    gpu: i915,nvidia display-ID: :0 screens: 1
  Screen-1: 0 s-res: 1920x1080 s-dpi: 81 s-size: 602x343mm (23.70x13.50") s-diag: 693mm (27.28")
  Monitor-1: DP-0 res: 1920x1080 dpi: 82 size: 598x336mm (23.54x13.23") diag: 686mm (27.01")
    modes: N/A
  API: OpenGL v: 4.6.0 NVIDIA 535.216.03 renderer: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1050/PCIe/SSE2
    direct-render: Yes
Audio:
  Device-1: Intel 6 Series/C200 Series Family High Definition Audio vendor: Fujitsu Solutions 6
    driver: snd_hda_intel v: kernel bus-ID: 00:1b.0 chip-ID: 8086:1c20 class-ID: 0403
  Device-2: NVIDIA GP107GL High Definition Audio vendor: PC Partner / Sapphire
    driver: snd_hda_intel v: kernel pcie: gen: 3 speed: 8 GT/s lanes: 16 bus-ID: 01:00.1
    chip-ID: 10de:0fb9 class-ID: 0403
  API: ALSA v: k6.1.0-29-amd64 status: kernel-api tools: alsamixer,amixer
  Server-1: PipeWire v: 1.0.0 status: active with: 1: pipewire-pulse status: active
    2: wireplumber status: active 3: pipewire-alsa type: plugin 4: pw-jack type: plugin
    tools: pactl,pw-cat,pw-cli,wpctl
Network:
  Device-1: Realtek RTL8111/8168/8411 PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet vendor: Fujitsu Solutions
    driver: r8169 v: kernel pcie: gen: 1 speed: 2.5 GT/s lanes: 1 port: d000 bus-ID: 03:00.0
    chip-ID: 10ec:8168 class-ID: 0200
  IF: eth0 state: up speed: 1000 Mbps duplex: full mac: <filter>
Drives:
  Local Storage: total: 4.55 TiB used: 1.23 TiB (27.1%)
  SMART Message: Unable to run smartctl. Root privileges required.
  ID-1: /dev/sda maj-min: 8:0 vendor: Hitachi model: HDS5C3030ALA630 size: 2.73 TiB block-size:
    physical: 512 B logical: 512 B speed: 3.0 Gb/s type: HDD rpm: 5700 serial: <filter> rev: A5C0
    scheme: GPT
  ID-2: /dev/sdb maj-min: 8:16 vendor: Western Digital model: WD20EZRX-00D8PB0 size: 1.82 TiB
    block-size: physical: 4096 B logical: 512 B speed: 3.0 Gb/s type: HDD rpm: 5400 serial: <filter>
    rev: 0A80 scheme: GPT
Partition:
  ID-1: / raw-size: 100.65 GiB size: 98.51 GiB (97.87%) used: 20.18 GiB (20.5%) fs: ext4
    dev: /dev/sdb6 maj-min: 8:22
  ID-2: /boot/efi raw-size: 500 MiB size: 499 MiB (99.80%) used: 40.4 MiB (8.1%) fs: vfat
    dev: /dev/sdb5 maj-min: 8:21
  ID-3: /home raw-size: 1.35 TiB size: 1.33 TiB (98.35%) used: 1.21 TiB (91.1%) fs: ext4
    dev: /dev/sdb4 maj-min: 8:20
Swap:
  Kernel: swappiness: 15 (default 60) cache-pressure: 100 (default)
  ID-1: swap-1 type: partition size: 8.04 GiB used: 0 KiB (0.0%) priority: -2 dev: /dev/sdb2
    maj-min: 8:18
Sensors:
  System Temperatures: cpu: 45.0 C mobo: N/A gpu: nvidia temp: 38 C
  Fan Speeds (RPM): N/A gpu: nvidia fan: 48%
Repos:
  Packages: 3412 pm: dpkg pkgs: 3346 libs: 1662 tools: apt,apt-get,aptitude,nala,synaptic pm: rpm
    pkgs: 0 pm: flatpak pkgs: 66
  No active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list
  Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian-stable-updates.list
    1: deb http://mirror.i3d.net/debian bookworm-updates main contrib non-free non-free-firmware
  Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian.list
    1: deb http://mirror.i3d.net/debian bookworm main contrib non-free non-free-firmware
    2: deb http://security.debian.org/debian-security bookworm-security main contrib non-free non-free-firmware
  Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/home:tumic:GPXSee.list
    1: deb http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/home:/tumic:/GPXSee/Debian_12/ /
  Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/mx.list
    1: deb https://mirror.23m.com/mx-packages/mx/repo/ bookworm main non-free
    2: deb https://mirror.23m.com/mx-packages/mx/repo/ bookworm ahs
  Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/protonvpn-stable.sources
    1: deb https://repo.protonvpn.com/debian stable main
Info:
  Processes: 231 Uptime: 8h 16m wakeups: 25 Memory: 15.54 GiB used: 3.89 GiB (25.0%) Init: SysVinit
  v: 3.06 runlevel: 5 default: graphical tool: systemctl Compilers: gcc: 12.2.0 alt: 12
  Client: shell wrapper v: 5.2.15-release inxi: 3.3.26
Boot Mode: UEFI

One thing I dodn't understand is why isn't the Synaptic Package Manager installed by default anymore. The MX Tools are still pretty messy. For example when using the MX Time tool and clicking apply it duplicates the NTP adress entry. Also I had some Flatpak issues. The MX Package Installer tool installs Flatpaks as system and not as user. In the settings when I choose "flathub -- user" it reverts back to "flathub -- system" when I open it again.

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Thank you for reading my post.

Posted: **Tue Apr 22, 2025 5:27 pm**

Welcome in!

Not sure how much of a difference it will make in KDE, but in XFCE adding stem darkening made a serious difference in my systems, and I believe I got that tip from a KDE user.

Create the following file: /etc/environment.d/90font-stem-darkening.conf
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FREETYPE_PROPERTIES="cff:no-stem-darkening=0 autofitter:no-stem-darkening=0"

And reboot. You should see very noticeable difference in fonts.

Posted: **Tue Apr 22, 2025 5:43 pm**

Additionally, you can adjust the fonts Anti-aliasing and Hinting in KDE easily too (Along with changing everything to other / better fonts. )

From the menu - Settings | System Settings. Search for Fonts
bottom of the dialog has ANti-Aliasing ( check that ) , then Sub-Pixel Rendering and Hinting.

On ALL my machines I change from Noto Sans to DejaVu Sans ( or Book ) and anything mono font goes to DejaVu Mono

Posted: **Tue Apr 22, 2025 9:23 pm**

I have one genealogy software app ( MS based ) that I use on a daily basis with the assistance of Wine. In order for it to display correctly, I had to install ttf-mscorefonts-installer and change all my fonts to use Arial TTF. I use that Arial TTF system wide. I am all about using free software, but I need MS TTF for one app to work properly. And besides, it's a nice font. My two cents worth.

Posted: **Wed Apr 23, 2025 10:31 am**

Thank you for your replies. I tried it out.

The stem darkening config file didn't changed anything.
In the KDE settings Antialising and Hinting were already on, I activated Sub-Pixel Rendering but this also didn't worked.
I also changed the fonts, but the fonts like as coarse as before.

I think it's a flatpak issue. Some dependencies might be missing.

Here is it looks like:

Posted: **Wed Apr 23, 2025 10:50 am**

I don't use KDE, but you could use MX Package Installer (MXPI) to install the Microsoft True Type fonts. Search for this package:

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ttf-mscorefonts-installer

under the Enabled Repos tab of MXPI. I know that some people find them more attractive than our default set.

Posted: **Wed Apr 23, 2025 1:17 pm**

You ignored my inquiry about flatpak. As I said the MX Package Installer doesn't let me install/maintain my user flatpaks because it insists on using system flatpaks. To circumvent this I used Discover which uses the user flatpak repo. So why doesn't the MX Package Installer allow that?

Posted: **Wed Apr 23, 2025 1:19 pm**

CharlesV wrote: Tue Apr 22, 2025 5:27 pm Not sure how much of a difference it will make in KDE, but in XFCE adding stem darkening made a serious difference in my systems, and I believe I got that tip from a KDE user.

Create the following file: /etc/environment.d/90font-stem-darkening.conf
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FREETYPE_PROPERTIES="cff:no-stem-darkening=0 autofitter:no-stem-darkening=0"

I suppose this should be enabled by default in MX Linux in new installs.

Posted: **Wed Apr 23, 2025 1:32 pm**

ostrog wrote: Wed Apr 23, 2025 1:17 pm You ignored my inquiry about flatpak. As I said the MX Package Installer doesn't let me install/maintain my user flatpaks because it insists on using system flatpaks. To circumvent this I used Discover which uses the user flatpak repo. So why doesn't the MX Package Installer allow that?

Who is 'you' in the above context?

Posted: **Wed Apr 23, 2025 2:59 pm**

j2mcgreg wrote: Wed Apr 23, 2025 1:32 pm
ostrog wrote: Wed Apr 23, 2025 1:17 pm You ignored my inquiry about flatpak. As I said the MX Package Installer doesn't let me install/maintain my user flatpaks because it insists on using system flatpaks. To circumvent this I used Discover which uses the user flatpak repo. So why doesn't the MX Package Installer allow that?
Who is 'you' in the above context?

You of course. When it's not mentioned who it's referred to, it's always refereed to the last post.

Posted: **Wed Apr 23, 2025 3:07 pm**

Dearth wrote: Wed Apr 23, 2025 1:19 pm
CharlesV wrote: Tue Apr 22, 2025 5:27 pm Not sure how much of a difference it will make in KDE, but in XFCE adding stem darkening made a serious difference in my systems, and I believe I got that tip from a KDE user.

Create the following file: /etc/environment.d/90font-stem-darkening.conf
with contents of:
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FREETYPE_PROPERTIES="cff:no-stem-darkening=0 autofitter:no-stem-darkening=0"
I suppose this should be enabled by default in MX Linux in new installs.

I don't like thick dark fonts, rather thinner and lighter. So if there are font modifications I hope they will be easy to find/modify.

This is what I use:

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FREETYPE_PROPERTIES="truetype:interpreter-version=35 cff:no-stem-darkening=1 autofitter:no-stem-darkening=1"

Posted: **Wed Apr 23, 2025 3:25 pm**

ostrog wrote: Wed Apr 23, 2025 2:59 pm
j2mcgreg wrote: Wed Apr 23, 2025 1:32 pm
ostrog wrote: Wed Apr 23, 2025 1:17 pm You ignored my inquiry about flatpak. As I said the MX Package Installer doesn't let me install/maintain my user flatpaks because it insists on using system flatpaks. To circumvent this I used Discover which uses the user flatpak repo. So why doesn't the MX Package Installer allow that?
Who is 'you' in the above context?
You of course. When it's not mentioned who it's referred to, it's always refereed to the last post.

You're right. I did ignore it because I don't use KDE and any advice I could offer on that DE would be speculation at best.

Posted: **Thu Apr 24, 2025 11:23 am**

ostrog wrote: Wed Apr 23, 2025 2:59 pm You of course. When it's not mentioned who it's referred to, it's always refereed to the last post.

Until someone doesn't follow that protocol - so not "always".

Posted: **Thu Apr 24, 2025 3:18 pm**

I did some test in a VM and after several hours I found out that the entry "for actual user" must be selected, then the flatpak repo can be selected. What an unintuitive way. Also I need to manually remove the remote via command line. An installed runtime (a remnant of a program) blocked it. MXPI showed no error, no message, nothing, it just reverts everything back.

I still have the problem with the bad font. For some unknown reason it was temporarily fixed. I have no ideas what's causing this. I you have any ideas let me know, because otherwise I will need to do a reinstallation.

Posted: **Sun Apr 27, 2025 4:52 pm**

I reinstalled my system and it worked until I installed the Nvidia drivers. I knew it was Nvidia. 99% of the graphic problems I had in the past were related to Nvidia.

It must be the stuff in my home folder. I only found a nvidia-settings file, other than that there are no files which contains "nvidia".

Posted: **Sun Apr 27, 2025 4:56 pm**

How did you install the nvidia drivers?

Posted: **Mon Apr 28, 2025 6:08 am**

Eadwine Rose wrote: Sun Apr 27, 2025 4:56 pm How did you install the nvidia drivers?

I installed the Nvidia drivers from MX Tools.

Posted: **Wed Apr 30, 2025 6:25 am**

I switched some Flatpaks to native version and on the native version the font is not coarse. So apparently it's a Flatpak problem.
I don't know how Flatpaks are integrated into the system, but I assume that there must be some misconfiguration there.

Posted: **Wed Apr 30, 2025 4:37 pm**

ostrog wrote: Wed Apr 30, 2025 6:25 am I switched some Flatpaks to native version and on the native version the font is not coarse. So apparently it's a Flatpak problem.
I don't know how Flatpaks are integrated into the system, but I assume that there must be some misconfiguration there.

As far as I know Flatpaks normally aren't integrated into the system. They are a little painful. It's basically another OS running on your current Linux kernel.

Posted: **Wed Apr 30, 2025 4:55 pm**

dreamer wrote: Wed Apr 30, 2025 4:37 pm
ostrog wrote: Wed Apr 30, 2025 6:25 am I switched some Flatpaks to native version and on the native version the font is not coarse. So apparently it's a Flatpak problem.
I don't know how Flatpaks are integrated into the system, but I assume that there must be some misconfiguration there.
As far as I know Flatpaks normally aren't integrated into the system. They are a little painful. It's basically another OS running on your current Linux kernel.

Interesting. I will try another distro to see if it works there.

Posted: **Thu May 01, 2025 1:09 am**

ostrog wrote: Tue Apr 22, 2025 3:49 pm
One thing I dodn't understand is why isn't the Synaptic Package Manager installed by default anymore.

Hi, I think the Synaptic Package Manager is installed by default. When I open the 'Start menu' and type Synaptic, it's listed, and I didn't install it.

I clicked through the 'Start menu' and it's under Settings.

(Sorry, I don't know what it's called in MX Linux. In Windows it's called the Start menu. I get to it by pressing the Windows key on my keyboard.)

Posted: **Sun May 04, 2025 5:43 pm**

I switched to Sparky Linux and there it worked without problem. I didn't cleaned up my home folder before installation, but Sparky Linux wrote some new files and ignored/overwrote some of my settings.
After switching back to MX Linux everything worked without problem. I deleted some files in my home folder. Then my system froze because of Timeshift. I needed to reboot my system with REISUB. After that I needed to restore my session in a Flatpak software that was open at the forced reboot. After that the text is coarse again.
To make things even weirder only specific Flapak applications are affected (Cudatext, Librewolf) while others aren't affected.
My best bet is that some Flatpak runtime is causing this.

To summarize this: Flatpak is screwed. I'm gonna change the affected Flatpaks to native ones with deb-get.
Thank you for your answers.

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