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GIMP RC3 is Now Live

Posted: Tue Feb 25, 2025 3:43 am
by Arnox

Re: GIMP RC3 is Now Live

Posted: Tue Feb 25, 2025 5:47 am
by Jerry3904
You want this brought into the MX repos?
Please Note
This is the download page for the development version of GIMP.

That means these builds are a work-in-progress. Proceed with caution because they may be unstable. If a crash does occur, please report it!

Re: GIMP RC3 is Now Live

Posted: Tue Feb 25, 2025 5:56 am
by Eadwine Rose
There is an RC2 in MXPI.

Re: GIMP RC3 is Now Live

Posted: Tue Feb 25, 2025 7:21 am
by Jerry3904
Didn't realize that, thanks. Appropriately, in the MX Test Repo section.

Re: GIMP RC3 is Now Live

Posted: Tue Feb 25, 2025 9:09 am
by AVLinux
For longtime GIMP users much has changed and some legacy things have been removed, I personally went back to 2.10 almost immediately.. Obviously at some point updating will be inevitable and I'll have to get my brain wrapped around the changes. I'd be interested in what other GIMPers think?

Re: GIMP RC3 is Now Live

Posted: Tue Feb 25, 2025 9:34 am
by Eadwine Rose
I'd say get that deb and milk 2.10 for as long as you can *chuckle*

Re: GIMP RC3 is Now Live

Posted: Tue Feb 25, 2025 9:49 am
by richb
AVLinux wrote: Tue Feb 25, 2025 9:09 am For longtime GIMP users much has changed and some legacy things have been removed, I personally went back to 2.10 almost immediately.. Obviously at some point updating will be inevitable and I'll have to get my brain wrapped around the changes. I'd be interested in what other GIMPers think?
Great minds think alike. I did exactly the same as you.

Re: GIMP RC3 is Now Live

Posted: Tue Feb 25, 2025 9:58 am
by AVLinux
richb wrote: Tue Feb 25, 2025 9:49 am
AVLinux wrote: Tue Feb 25, 2025 9:09 am For longtime GIMP users much has changed and some legacy things have been removed, I personally went back to 2.10 almost immediately.. Obviously at some point updating will be inevitable and I'll have to get my brain wrapped around the changes. I'd be interested in what other GIMPers think?
Great minds think alike. I did exactly the same as you.
Haha,

Don't know how 'great' my mind is anymore but as much as I love Linux it is often at odds with my pragmatic farmer "if it ain't broke don't fix it" side... In Linux if it ain't broke... add new features | update it 'just because' | completely change it from the ground up | fork it :rolleyes:

Re: GIMP RC3 is Now Live

Posted: Wed Feb 26, 2025 5:48 am
by Arnox
GIMP 3.x offers a ton of huge new stuff over 2.10.x GIMP in general has been sitting around with only minor improvements made for a very long time until whenever GIMP 3.0 stable comes out. Very likely this year. That said, it's understandable people want to stick with 2.10.x for now until 3.0 finally hits stable.

Re: GIMP RC3 is Now Live

Posted: Wed Feb 26, 2025 5:56 am
by Eadwine Rose
I don't want a ton of huge new stuff. ;) :laugh: Usually that means I cannot find the stuff I need because it got moved, or, even worse, REmoved.

Re: GIMP RC3 is Now Live

Posted: Wed Feb 26, 2025 7:33 am
by Arnox
Eadwine Rose wrote: Wed Feb 26, 2025 5:56 am I don't want a ton of huge new stuff. ;) :laugh: Usually that means I cannot find the stuff I need because it got moved, or, even worse, REmoved.
Well, normally, I'd be right with you on this, but Linux has needed a competitive image editor for a long time now, and GIMP 3.0 basically represents the first big step towards that. Same thing with FreeCAD and its topological naming problem that's held it back for years and years but is now finally on its way to getting fixed once and for all.

Re: GIMP RC3 is Now Live

Posted: Wed Feb 26, 2025 11:36 am
by baldyeti
I don't understand people asking for the MX devs to build RC's and betas when there are available appimages and flatpak versions available for the adventurous.

Re: GIMP RC3 is Now Live

Posted: Wed Feb 26, 2025 12:52 pm
by richb
baldyeti wrote: Wed Feb 26, 2025 11:36 am I don't understand people asking for the MX devs to build RC's and betas when there are available appimages and flatpak versions available for the adventurous.
Off topic. Please stay on topic.

Re: GIMP RC3 is Now Live

Posted: Wed Feb 26, 2025 11:37 pm
by Stevo
It's not that hard after I built the first RC1, because the same babl and gegl base libraries are already built. I hear most existing addons and plugins need to be rewritten for GIMP 3, though.

Re: GIMP RC3 is Now Live

Posted: Thu Feb 27, 2025 5:34 am
by bambuko
Arnox wrote: Wed Feb 26, 2025 7:33 am FreeCAD and its topological naming problem that's held it back for years and years but is now finally on its way to getting fixed once and for all.
As a long time user of FreeCAD (and many other CAD systems through my long life) I feel you should temper your expectations...
Topological naming problem is not on it's way to getting fixed - the issue will be mitigated but not "solved" ;)
anyway... this discussion is for another place (sorry for OT drift)

Re: GIMP RC3 is Now Live

Posted: Tue Mar 18, 2025 10:27 am
by siamhie
GIMP 3.0 has officially been released. (two days ago)

https://www.gimp.org/news/2025/03/16/gimp-3-0-released/



Why do today's graphic designers think that flat is the new look. I prefer the old Wilber look with it's shadowing.

GIMP 2.10.38
quickshot_250318_072041.jpg
GIMP 3.0
quickshot_250318_072114.jpg

Re: GIMP RC3 is Now Live

Posted: Tue Mar 18, 2025 10:33 am
by BV206
This time they have an official AppImage. I tried that yesterday and appeared to work with no problems on MX 23.5 Xfce ahs.

Re: GIMP RC3 is Now Live

Posted: Tue Mar 18, 2025 11:16 am
by CharlesV
siamhie wrote: Tue Mar 18, 2025 10:27 am GIMP 3.0 has officially been released. (two days ago)

https://www.gimp.org/news/2025/03/16/gimp-3-0-released/



Why do today's graphic designers think that flat is the new look. I prefer the old Wilber look with it's shadowing.

GIMP 2.10.38
quickshot_250318_072041.jpg

GIMP 3.0
quickshot_250318_072114.jpg
+1 on the old wilber. Or the blaze version ( which I seem to have all over the place? )



Image

Re: GIMP RC3 is Now Live

Posted: Tue Mar 18, 2025 11:17 am
by CharlesV
BV206 wrote: Tue Mar 18, 2025 10:33 am This time they have an official AppImage. I tried that yesterday and appeared to work with no problems on MX 23.5 Xfce ahs.
Same here, I worked with it for a few hours yesterday and it was very nice.

Re: GIMP RC3 is Now Live

Posted: Tue Mar 18, 2025 11:29 am
by siamhie
CharlesV wrote: Tue Mar 18, 2025 11:16 am
+1 on the old wilber. Or the blaze version ( which I seem to have all over the place? )

Image
For a graphics program, you would think that they would want to show off it's capabilities. Even that blaze version looks so much better.

Re: GIMP RC3 is Now Live

Posted: Tue Mar 18, 2025 12:15 pm
by Melber
Which one better maintains legibility at various sizes?

gimp-logo.png
gimp-logo2.png
gimp-logo3.png
gimp-logo4.png

Re: GIMP RC3 is Now Live

Posted: Tue Mar 18, 2025 12:47 pm
by AVLinux
Haha,

I try to be open to both camps but I would agree the Logo Icon was probably due for an overhaul since the program has essentially been ported to GTK3 and looks quite different itself..

A cursory look at Distrowatch and any theme/icon search will definitely tell you that we are 98.64% in FLAT territory these days so it should certainly not come as a surprise that Wilber (sp?) was doomed to be flattened..

Re: GIMP RC3 is Now Live

Posted: Tue Mar 18, 2025 4:59 pm
by siamhie
Melber wrote: Tue Mar 18, 2025 12:15 pm Which one better maintains legibility at various sizes?


gimp-logo.png

gimp-logo2.png

gimp-logo3.png

gimp-logo4.png
Even at 64x27, the one on the left still retains it's shading and shadowing.

Re: GIMP RC3 is Now Live

Posted: Tue Mar 18, 2025 5:10 pm
by siamhie
AVLinux wrote: Tue Mar 18, 2025 12:47 pm Haha,

I try to be open to both camps but I would agree the Logo Icon was probably due for an overhaul since the program has essentially been ported to GTK3 and looks quite different itself..

A cursory look at Distrowatch and any theme/icon search will definitely tell you that we are 98.64% in FLAT territory these days so it should certainly not come as a surprise that Wilber (sp?) was doomed to be flattened..
It's a shame but progress forward I guess. I am looking forward to trying out GIMP 3.

Re: GIMP RC3 is Now Live

Posted: Thu Mar 20, 2025 12:29 pm
by DeepDayze
Wasn't Gimp 3 just released and hopefully be a package soon in MXPI :-)

Re: GIMP RC3 is Now Live

Posted: Thu Mar 20, 2025 5:17 pm
by Arnox
siamhie wrote: Tue Mar 18, 2025 11:29 am
CharlesV wrote: Tue Mar 18, 2025 11:16 am
+1 on the old wilber. Or the blaze version ( which I seem to have all over the place? )

Image
For a graphics program, you would think that they would want to show off it's capabilities. Even that blaze version looks so much better.
This kinda goes back to my older skeuomorphic UI design topic asking why MX was sticking so hard to a flat theme. The answer I got from that though is UI consistency I guess...
Melber wrote: Tue Mar 18, 2025 12:15 pm Which one better maintains legibility at various sizes?


gimp-logo.png

gimp-logo2.png

gimp-logo3.png

gimp-logo4.png
The flat version is a bit better for that, yes, but not enough to make a difference. I would say it's still pretty clear what program that icon is for.

Re: GIMP RC3 is Now Live

Posted: Thu Mar 20, 2025 8:58 pm
by Stevo
Gimp fails to build on backports from Sid. Even exact rebuilds of other backports that have been successful, such as Ubuntu Handbook's, fail with the same error, so I'm going to look again at my new backport of gegl to see if that's at fault.

Re: GIMP RC3 is Now Live

Posted: Thu Mar 20, 2025 8:59 pm
by Stevo
You might try an Appimage in the meantime, if it exists.

Re: GIMP RC3 is Now Live

Posted: Thu Mar 20, 2025 9:12 pm
by Arnox
Stevo wrote: Thu Mar 20, 2025 8:58 pm Gimp fails to build on backports from Sid. Even exact rebuilds of other backports that have been successful, such as Ubuntu Handbook's, fail with the same error, so I'm going to look again at my new backport of gegl to see if that's at fault.
Roger that. Hopefully you'll be able to get around that, but if not, the AppImage is fine too I suppose.

Re: GIMP RC3 is Now Live

Posted: Tue Apr 15, 2025 3:54 pm
by wolfganp
Now that 3.0.2 is out and fixed lot of things, is flatpak the way to go? (as enabled repo offers 2.10 and test repo offers 3.0RC2)

Re: GIMP RC3 is Now Live

Posted: Tue Apr 15, 2025 8:18 pm
by Stevo
wolfganp wrote: Tue Apr 15, 2025 3:54 pm Now that 3.0.2 is out and fixed lot of things, is flatpak the way to go? (as enabled repo offers 2.10 and test repo offers 3.0RC2)
I find appimages smaller in general, and don't keep asking for massive updates of their flatpak backends in Discover.

Re: GIMP RC3 is Now Live

Posted: Wed Apr 16, 2025 11:17 am
by wolfganp
Stevo wrote: Tue Apr 15, 2025 8:18 pm
wolfganp wrote: Tue Apr 15, 2025 3:54 pm Now that 3.0.2 is out and fixed lot of things, is flatpak the way to go? (as enabled repo offers 2.10 and test repo offers 3.0RC2)
I find appimages smaller in general, and don't keep asking for massive updates of their flatpak backends in Discover.
Awesome. Thx for the quick reply! W