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Gigahenry007
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Touchy Touchpad

#1 Post by Gigahenry007 »

Good Afternoon!

Hope all is well...

This newer laptop has a somewhat similar touch pad oddity as the Toshiba but not as severe, The touchpad was replaced by a A+ (Plus) Certified technician but he still admited its not perfect.

The touchpad will sometimes need an extra touch/tick to get it to move. Keeping a minumum amount of windows open seems(?) to help it act more like it should. You might say that it freezes momentarily which can be annoying.

I was thinking maybe I should try one of the other touchpad packages in the Package Handler that was suggested in the past for the now defunct Toshiba.

Thank you.

Have a great rest iof the day.

R

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System:
  Kernel: 6.1.0-27-amd64 [6.1.115-1] arch: x86_64 bits: 64 compiler: gcc v: 12.2.0
    parameters: BOOT_IMAGE=/boot/vmlinuz-6.1.0-27-amd64 root=UUID=<filter> ro quiet splash
  Desktop: Xfce v: 4.18.1 tk: Gtk v: 3.24.36 info: xfce4-panel wm: xfwm v: 4.18.0 vt: 7
    dm: LightDM v: 1.26.0 Distro: MX-23.4_x64 Libretto May 19  2024 base: Debian GNU/Linux 12
    (bookworm)
Machine:
  Type: Laptop System: Dell product: XPS 13 9360 v: N/A serial: <superuser required> Chassis:
    type: 10 serial: <superuser required>
  Mobo: Dell model: 01KT0M v: A00 serial: <superuser required> UEFI: Dell v: 2.21.0
    date: 06/02/2022
Battery:
  ID-1: BAT0 charge: 8.5 Wh (20.5%) condition: 41.4/60.0 Wh (69.0%) volts: 7.5 min: 7.6
    model: SMP DELL TP1GT61 type: Li-poly serial: <filter> status: not charging
CPU:
  Info: model: Intel Core i5-7200U bits: 64 type: MT MCP arch: Amber/Kaby Lake note: check
    gen: core 7 level: v3 note: check built: 2017 process: Intel 14nm family: 6 model-id: 0x8E (142)
    stepping: 9 microcode: 0xF6
  Topology: cpus: 1x cores: 2 tpc: 2 threads: 4 smt: enabled cache: L1: 128 KiB
    desc: d-2x32 KiB; i-2x32 KiB L2: 512 KiB desc: 2x256 KiB L3: 3 MiB desc: 1x3 MiB
  Speed (MHz): avg: 800 min/max: 400/3100 scaling: driver: intel_pstate governor: powersave
    cores: 1: 800 2: 800 3: 800 4: 800 bogomips: 21599
  Flags: avx avx2 ht lm nx pae sse sse2 sse3 sse4_1 sse4_2 ssse3 vmx
  Vulnerabilities:
  Type: gather_data_sampling mitigation: Microcode
  Type: itlb_multihit status: KVM: VMX disabled
  Type: l1tf mitigation: PTE Inversion; VMX: conditional cache flushes, SMT vulnerable
  Type: mds mitigation: Clear CPU buffers; SMT vulnerable
  Type: meltdown mitigation: PTI
  Type: mmio_stale_data mitigation: Clear CPU buffers; SMT vulnerable
  Type: reg_file_data_sampling status: Not affected
  Type: retbleed mitigation: IBRS
  Type: spec_rstack_overflow status: Not affected
  Type: spec_store_bypass mitigation: Speculative Store Bypass disabled via prctl
  Type: spectre_v1 mitigation: usercopy/swapgs barriers and __user pointer sanitization
  Type: spectre_v2 mitigation: IBRS; IBPB: conditional; STIBP: conditional; RSB filling;
    PBRSB-eIBRS: Not affected; BHI: Not affected
  Type: srbds mitigation: Microcode
  Type: tsx_async_abort status: Not affected
Graphics:
  Device-1: Intel HD Graphics 620 vendor: Dell driver: i915 v: kernel arch: Gen-9.5
    process: Intel 14nm built: 2016-20 ports: active: eDP-1 empty: DP-1,DP-2 bus-ID: 00:02.0
    chip-ID: 8086:5916 class-ID: 0300
  Device-2: Realtek Integrated_Webcam_HD type: USB driver: uvcvideo bus-ID: 1-5:5
    chip-ID: 0bda:568b class-ID: 0e02 serial: <filter>
  Display: x11 server: X.Org v: 1.21.1.7 compositor: xfwm v: 4.18.0 driver: X:
    loaded: modesetting unloaded: fbdev,vesa dri: iris gpu: i915 display-ID: :0.0 screens: 1
  Screen-1: 0 s-res: 1920x1080 s-dpi: 96 s-size: 508x285mm (20.00x11.22") s-diag: 582mm (22.93")
  Monitor-1: eDP-1 model: Sharp 0x1449 built: 2015 res: 1920x1080 hz: 60 dpi: 166 gamma: 1.2
    size: 294x165mm (11.57x6.5") diag: 337mm (13.3") ratio: 16:9 modes: 1920x1080
  API: OpenGL v: 4.6 Mesa 22.3.6 renderer: Mesa Intel HD Graphics 620 (KBL GT2)
    direct-render: Yes
Audio:
  Device-1: Intel Sunrise Point-LP HD Audio vendor: Dell driver: snd_hda_intel v: kernel
    alternate: snd_soc_skl,snd_sof_pci_intel_skl bus-ID: 00:1f.3 chip-ID: 8086:9d71 class-ID: 0403
  API: ALSA v: k6.1.0-27-amd64 status: kernel-api tools: alsamixer,amixer
  Server-1: PipeWire v: 1.0.0 status: active with: 1: pipewire-pulse status: active
    2: wireplumber status: active 3: pipewire-alsa type: plugin 4: pw-jack type: plugin
    tools: pactl,pw-cat,pw-cli,wpctl
Network:
  Device-1: Qualcomm Atheros QCA6174 802.11ac Wireless Network Adapter vendor: Rivet Networks
    Killer Wireless-n/a/ac 1535 driver: ath10k_pci v: kernel modules: wl pcie: gen: 1
    speed: 2.5 GT/s lanes: 1 bus-ID: 3a:00.0 chip-ID: 168c:003e class-ID: 0280 temp: 42.0 C
  IF: wlan0 state: up mac: <filter>
Bluetooth:
  Device-1: Qualcomm Atheros type: USB driver: btusb v: 0.8 bus-ID: 1-3:3 chip-ID: 0cf3:e301
    class-ID: e001
  Report: hciconfig ID: hci0 rfk-id: 1 state: up address: <filter> bt-v: 2.1 lmp-v: 4.2
    sub-v: 25a hci-v: 4.2
  Info: acl-mtu: 1024:8 sco-mtu: 50:8 link-policy: rswitch hold sniff
    link-mode: peripheral accept service-classes: rendering, capturing, object transfer, audio,
    telephony
Drives:
  Local Storage: total: 119.24 GiB used: 22.85 GiB (19.2%)
  SMART Message: Unable to run smartctl. Root privileges required.
  ID-1: /dev/sda maj-min: 8:0 vendor: Toshiba model: THNSNK128GVN8 M.2 2280 128GB
    size: 119.24 GiB block-size: physical: 4096 B logical: 512 B speed: 6.0 Gb/s type: SSD
    serial: <filter> rev: 4101 scheme: GPT
Partition:
  ID-1: / raw-size: 118.99 GiB size: 116.56 GiB (97.96%) used: 22.85 GiB (19.6%) fs: ext4
    dev: /dev/sda2 maj-min: 8:2
  ID-2: /boot/efi raw-size: 256 MiB size: 252 MiB (98.46%) used: 278 KiB (0.1%) fs: vfat
    dev: /dev/sda1 maj-min: 8:1
Swap:
  Kernel: swappiness: 15 (default 60) cache-pressure: 100 (default)
  ID-1: swap-1 type: file size: 2 GiB used: 114 MiB (5.6%) priority: -2 file: /swap/swap
Sensors:
  System Temperatures: cpu: 49.0 C pch: 38.0 C mobo: 34.0 C
  Fan Speeds (RPM): cpu: 0
Repos:
  Packages: pm: dpkg pkgs: 2120 libs: 1049 tools: apt,apt-get,aptitude,nala,synaptic pm: rpm
    pkgs: 0 pm: flatpak pkgs: 0
  No active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list
  Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian-stable-updates.list
    1: deb http://deb.debian.org/debian bookworm-updates main contrib non-free non-free-firmware
  Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian.list
    1: deb http://deb.debian.org/debian bookworm main contrib non-free non-free-firmware
    2: deb http://security.debian.org/debian-security bookworm-security main contrib non-free non-free-firmware
  Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/google-chrome.list
    1: deb [arch=amd64] https://dl.google.com/linux/chrome/deb/ stable main
  Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/mx.list
    1: deb http://mirrors.rit.edu/mxlinux/mx-packages/mx/repo/ bookworm main non-free
Info:
  Processes: 231 Uptime: 5h 58m wakeups: 14683 Memory: 3.56 GiB used: 2.41 GiB (67.7%)
  Init: SysVinit v: 3.06 runlevel: 5 default: graphical tool: systemctl Compilers: gcc: 12.2.0
  alt: 12 Client: shell wrapper v: 5.2.15-release inxi: 3.3.26
Boot Mode: UEFI
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Re: Touchy Touchpad

#2 Post by CharlesV »

The two utilities that make the most differences are:

1) Mouse and Touchpad - select Touchpad and then pointer acceleration behavior settings.
2) Touchpad Indicator (install using MXPackage Installer) . There you can work multiple settings, start it, and then right click on the icon in the panel and choose preferences.
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Re: Touchy Touchpad

#3 Post by Jerry3904 »

I have used Touchpad Indicator for a bunch of years to keep my Thinkpad X Carbon under control. A few months I installed from MXPI the kernel

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Linux mx 6.9.12-2-liquorix-amd64 #1 ZEN SMP PREEMPT liquorix 6.9-12~mx23ahs (2024-08-03) x86_64 GNU/Linux
which enables me for the first time to have the touchpad available without messing up everything.
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Re: Touchy Touchpad

#4 Post by Gigahenry007 »

Okay!
What settings in the Acceration/Behavior do you suggest approximately? It defaults to 5.

In the Touchpad Indicator what in your experience may help with the proposed issue(s) I mentioned? Theres Actions, General Options, TP Configuration.

Do you normally choose to Disable the TP when a mouse is plugged in?

Grazie

Side Note: I'm stuck with a 45 watt HP AC adapter until the tech gives me the correct one next week.
The charge is at 20% and won't go any higher. Is there anything in the Xfce Power Manager that would help it charge more?
It was at 72% when I first used this laptop and wasn't advised NOT to use it unplugged or that it would be stuck at the point I ran the laptop off the battery.
Which is where it is now 20%.
Computer Waiting to Charge (20%) at the battery icon.
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Re: Touchy Touchpad

#5 Post by j2mcgreg »

@Gigahenry007 wrote:
Do you normally choose to Disable the TP when a mouse is plugged in?
As a matter of course, the first thing I do post install is to disable the touch pad.
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Re: Touchy Touchpad

#6 Post by Gigahenry007 »

j2mcgreg wrote: Thu Nov 14, 2024 6:07 pm @Gigahenry007 wrote:
Do you normally choose to Disable the TP when a mouse is plugged in?
As a matter of course, the first thing I do post install is to disable the touch pad.
No! when I bought the laptop there was a dongle plugged in to use the wireless mouse or touchpad.
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Re: Touchy Touchpad

#7 Post by Gigahenry007 »

Jerry3904 wrote: Thu Nov 14, 2024 5:25 pm I have used Touchpad Indicator for a bunch of years to keep my Thinkpad X Carbon under control. A few months I installed from MXPI the kernel

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Linux mx 6.9.12-2-liquorix-amd64 #1 ZEN SMP PREEMPT liquorix 6.9-12~mx23ahs (2024-08-03) x86_64 GNU/Linux
which enables me for the first time to have the touchpad available without messing up everything.
Thank You! I'll certainly give that careful consideration.
It would come down to me be able to navigate liquorix correctly.
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It would come down to me be able to navigate liquorix correctly.
I don't "navigate" it at all, whatever that means exactly, I just use it.
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Re: Touchy Touchpad

#9 Post by Gigahenry007 »

Jerry3904 wrote: Thu Nov 14, 2024 7:09 pm
It would come down to me be able to navigate liquorix correctly.
I don't "navigate" it at all, whatever that means exactly, I just use it.
Interesting! I'm not sure what you meant by "just using it?" I have no idea what this app is or if it may help the current issue with the Touchpad?!
Thank You.
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#10 Post by CharlesV »

I believe Jerry is saying once he installed a liquorix kernel things changed and the touchpad worked better.

I would strongly suggest getting a timeshift snapshot and then install a liquorix kernel. Personally, I think the 6.11.7 liquorix kernel rocks!

MXPI , in the search field type in Liquorix... click on the 6.11.7 kernel, install and reboot.
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