Page 1 of 1

Black screen and pointer

Posted: Fri Oct 18, 2024 3:40 pm
by altreed
Hi

A bit of a linux noob.

I have been enjoying MX for a good few months. I have googled and overcome various anomalies, to get a nice stable and functional platform. Recently I managed to create a larger partition to allow effective hibernation. However....

I now use hibernation between sessions, rather than the sleep mode. Since adopting this method, I have encountered a problem. I have noticed a couple of things happened that made me think it was about time I did a reboot after several hibernations. I cannot remember the various behaviours that urged me to do it. The final straw was Steam CSS refused to launch. So I did a reboot.

Upon startup I am presented, after the usual reboot time, with a black screen and a mouse pointer, it has no use, you can move the mouse, nothing to click on and keyboard entry has no effect. After googling on another device, I used ctrl alt f2, dropping to cli. Login, ran some commands resulting in switching to after installing lightdm in dpkg-reconfigure. When I login subsequently I am presented with a question mark by the clock, which says software renderer. I read that if I switch back to sddm, at the black screen I ctrl, alt, f2 - login and run startx I get the environment I wanted and it all works. However, the other issue being that when I run discover, it shows updates but crashes when I try to install them. It wants to install mesa, breeze and freedesktop, which I feel is the source of my issues. I ran apt-get full-upgrade. It has reduced the list, but I still cannot update mesa , freedesktop and breeze. I have tried to untick them and install one at a time, but the discover crashes and asks to report a bug.

Is there a way I can install mesa, freedesktop and breeze updates from cli? I hope that would address the startx issue.

Thanks for any help
Dave


:-

Code: Select all

System:
  Kernel: 6.1.0-13-amd64 [6.1.55-1] arch: x86_64 bits: 64 compiler: gcc v: 12.2.0 clocksource: tsc
    avail: hpet,acpi_pm parameters: BOOT_IMAGE=/boot/vmlinuz-6.1.0-13-amd64 root=UUID=<filter> ro
    quiet splash
  Desktop: KDE Plasma v: 5.27.5 tk: Qt v: N/A info: frameworks v: 5.103.0 wm: kwin_x11 vt: 2
    dm: LightDM v: 1.26.0 Distro: MX-23.4_KDE_x64 Libretto October 15 2023 base: Debian GNU/Linux 12
    (bookworm)
Machine:
  Type: Desktop Mobo: Micro-Star model: PRO Z690-A (MS-7D25) v: 2.0 serial: <superuser required>
    uuid: <superuser required> UEFI: American Megatrends LLC. v: A.80 date: 08/31/2022
CPU:
  Info: model: 12th Gen Intel Core i5-12600K bits: 64 type: MST AMCP arch: Alder Lake gen: core 12
    level: v3 note: check built: 2021+ process: Intel 7 (10nm ESF) family: 6 model-id: 0x97 (151)
    stepping: 2 microcode: 0x35
  Topology: cpus: 1x dies: 1 clusters: 7 cores: 10 threads: 16 mt: 6 tpc: 2 st: 4 smt: enabled
    cache: L1: 864 KiB desc: d-4x32 KiB, 6x48 KiB; i-6x32 KiB, 4x64 KiB L2: 9.5 MiB
    desc: 6x1.2 MiB, 1x2 MiB L3: 20 MiB desc: 1x20 MiB
  Speed (MHz): avg: 800 min/max: 800/5000:3700 scaling: driver: intel_pstate governor: powersave
    cores: 1: 800 2: 800 3: 800 4: 800 5: 800 6: 800 7: 800 8: 800 9: 800 10: 800 11: 800 12: 800
    13: 800 14: 800 15: 800 16: 800 bogomips: 117964
  Flags: avx avx2 ht lm nx pae sse sse2 sse3 sse4_1 sse4_2 ssse3 vmx
  Vulnerabilities:
  Type: gather_data_sampling status: Not affected
  Type: itlb_multihit status: Not affected
  Type: l1tf status: Not affected
  Type: mds status: Not affected
  Type: meltdown status: Not affected
  Type: mmio_stale_data status: Not affected
  Type: retbleed status: Not affected
  Type: spec_rstack_overflow status: Not affected
  Type: spec_store_bypass mitigation: Speculative Store Bypass disabled via prctl
  Type: spectre_v1 mitigation: usercopy/swapgs barriers and __user pointer sanitization
  Type: spectre_v2 mitigation: Enhanced IBRS, IBPB: conditional, RSB filling, PBRSB-eIBRS: SW
    sequence
  Type: srbds status: Not affected
  Type: tsx_async_abort status: Not affected
Graphics:
  Device-1: Intel AlderLake-S GT1 vendor: Micro-Star MSI driver: i915 v: kernel arch: Gen-12.1
    process: Intel 10nm built: 2020-21 ports: active: none empty: DP-1, DP-2, HDMI-A-1, HDMI-A-2,
    HDMI-A-3, HDMI-A-4 bus-ID: 00:02.0 chip-ID: 8086:4680 class-ID: 0380
  Device-2: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD/ATI] Navi 31 [Radeon RX 7900 XT/7900 XTX] driver: amdgpu
    v: kernel arch: RDNA-3 code: Navi-3x process: TSMC n5 (5nm) built: 2022+ pcie: gen: 4
    speed: 16 GT/s lanes: 16 ports: active: DP-3 empty: DP-4,DP-5,HDMI-A-5 bus-ID: 03:00.0
    chip-ID: 1002:744c class-ID: 0300
  Device-3: Oculus VR Rift CV1 Sensor driver: uvcvideo type: USB rev: 2.1 speed: 480 Mb/s
    lanes: 1 mode: 2.0 bus-ID: 1-11:6 chip-ID: 2833:0211 class-ID: ef00 serial: <filter>
  Device-4: Oculus VR Rift CV1 Sensor driver: uvcvideo type: USB rev: 3.0 speed: 5 Gb/s lanes: 1
    mode: 3.2 gen-1x1 bus-ID: 2-5:3 chip-ID: 2833:0211 class-ID: ef00 serial: <filter>
  Device-5: Oculus VR Rift CV1 Sensor driver: uvcvideo type: USB rev: 3.0 speed: 5 Gb/s lanes: 1
    mode: 3.2 gen-1x1 bus-ID: 6-1:2 chip-ID: 2833:0211 class-ID: ef00 serial: <filter>
  Display: server: X.Org v: 1.21.1.7 with: Xwayland v: 22.1.9 compositor: kwin_x11 driver: X:
    loaded: amdgpu dri: radeonsi gpu: amdgpu display-ID: :1 screens: 1
  Screen-1: 0 s-res: 3440x1440 s-dpi: 96 s-size: 910x381mm (35.83x15.00") s-diag: 987mm (38.84")
  Monitor-1: DP-3 mapped: DisplayPort-2 model: AOC U34G3G3R3 serial: <filter> built: 2022
    res: 3440x1440 dpi: 110 gamma: 1.2 size: 797x334mm (31.38x13.15") diag: 864mm (34") modes:
    max: 3440x1440 min: 720x400
  API: EGL v: 1.5 hw: drv: intel iris drv: amd radeonsi platforms: device: 0 drv: radeonsi
    device: 1 drv: iris device: 2 drv: swrast gbm: drv: kms_swrast surfaceless: drv: radeonsi x11:
    drv: radeonsi inactive: wayland
  API: OpenGL v: 4.6 vendor: amd mesa v: 24.2.2-1~mx23ahs glx-v: 1.4 es-v: 3.2 direct-render: yes
    renderer: AMD Radeon RX 7900 XTX (radeonsi navi31 LLVM 15.0.6 DRM 3.49 6.1.0-13-amd64)
    device-ID: 1002:744c memory: 23.44 GiB unified: no
Audio:
  Device-1: Intel Alder Lake-S HD Audio vendor: Micro-Star MSI driver: snd_hda_intel v: kernel
    alternate: snd_sof_pci_intel_tgl bus-ID: 00:1f.3 chip-ID: 8086:7ad0 class-ID: 0403
  Device-2: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD/ATI] driver: snd_hda_intel v: kernel pcie: gen: 4
    speed: 16 GT/s lanes: 16 bus-ID: 03:00.1 chip-ID: 1002:ab30 class-ID: 0403
  API: ALSA v: k6.1.0-13-amd64 status: kernel-api tools: alsactl,alsamixer,amixer
  Server-1: PipeWire v: 1.2.5 status: active with: 1: pipewire-pulse status: active
    2: wireplumber status: active 3: pipewire-alsa type: plugin 4: pw-jack type: plugin
    tools: pactl,pw-cat,pw-cli,wpctl
Network:
  Device-1: Intel Ethernet I225-V vendor: Micro-Star MSI driver: igc v: kernel pcie: gen: 2
    speed: 5 GT/s lanes: 1 port: N/A bus-ID: 09:00.0 chip-ID: 8086:15f3 class-ID: 0200
  IF: eth0 state: up speed: 1000 Mbps duplex: full mac: <filter>
  Info: services: mld,NetworkManager,smbd
Drives:
  Local Storage: total: 8.82 TiB used: 469.59 GiB (5.2%)
  SMART Message: Unable to run smartctl. Root privileges required.
  ID-1: /dev/nvme0n1 maj-min: 259:0 vendor: Corsair model: Force MP510 size: 894.25 GiB
    block-size: physical: 512 B logical: 512 B speed: 31.6 Gb/s lanes: 4 tech: SSD serial: <filter>
    fw-rev: ECFM12.2 temp: 37.9 C scheme: GPT
  ID-2: /dev/nvme1n1 maj-min: 259:7 vendor: Samsung model: SSD 960 EVO 250GB size: 232.89 GiB
    block-size: physical: 512 B logical: 512 B speed: 31.6 Gb/s lanes: 4 tech: SSD serial: <filter>
    fw-rev: 3B7QCXE7 temp: 36.9 C scheme: GPT
  ID-3: /dev/nvme2n1 maj-min: 259:12 vendor: Intel model: SSDPEDMW400G4 size: 372.61 GiB
    block-size: physical: 512 B logical: 512 B speed: 31.6 Gb/s lanes: 4 tech: SSD serial: <filter>
    fw-rev: 8EV10135 temp: 31.9 C scheme: MBR
  ID-4: /dev/nvme3n1 maj-min: 259:4 vendor: Seagate model: FireCuda 530 ZP4000GM30013
    size: 3.64 TiB block-size: physical: 512 B logical: 512 B speed: 63.2 Gb/s lanes: 4 tech: SSD
    serial: <filter> fw-rev: SU6SM003 temp: 30.9 C scheme: GPT
  ID-5: /dev/sda maj-min: 8:0 vendor: Corsair model: Force 3 SSD size: 83.85 GiB block-size:
    physical: 512 B logical: 512 B speed: 6.0 Gb/s tech: SSD serial: <filter> fw-rev: 5.02
    scheme: GPT
  ID-6: /dev/sdb maj-min: 8:16 vendor: Seagate model: ST4000DM006-2G5107 size: 3.64 TiB
    block-size: physical: 4096 B logical: 512 B speed: 6.0 Gb/s tech: HDD rpm: 7200 serial: <filter>
    fw-rev: DN04 scheme: GPT
Partition:
  ID-1: / raw-size: 303.89 GiB size: 298.05 GiB (98.08%) used: 234.79 GiB (78.8%) fs: ext4
    dev: /dev/nvme2n1p2 maj-min: 259:14
  ID-2: /boot/efi raw-size: 256 MiB size: 252 MiB (98.46%) used: 278 KiB (0.1%) fs: vfat
    dev: /dev/nvme2n1p1 maj-min: 259:13
Swap:
  Kernel: swappiness: 60 (default) cache-pressure: 100 (default) zswap: no
  ID-1: swap-1 type: partition size: 68.47 GiB used: 0 KiB (0.0%) priority: -2
    dev: /dev/nvme2n1p3 maj-min: 259:15
Sensors:
  System Temperatures: cpu: 25.0 C mobo: N/A gpu: amdgpu temp: 49.0 C mem: 69.0 C
  Fan Speeds (rpm): N/A gpu: amdgpu fan: 0
Repos:
  Packages: 2765 pm: dpkg pkgs: 2748 libs: 1439 tools: apt,apt-get,aptitude,nala pm: rpm pkgs: 0
    pm: flatpak pkgs: 17
  No active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list
  Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/brave-browser-release.list
    1: deb [signed-by=/usr/share/keyrings/brave-browser-archive-keyring.gpg arch=amd64] https://brave-browser-apt-release.s3.brave.com/ stable main
  Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian-stable-updates.list
    1: deb http://deb.debian.org/debian/ bookworm-updates main contrib non-free non-free-firmware
  Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian.list
    1: deb http://deb.debian.org/debian/ bookworm main contrib non-free non-free-firmware
    2: deb http://security.debian.org/debian-security/ bookworm-security main contrib non-free non-free-firmware
    3: deb-src http://deb.debian.org/debian/ bookworm main contrib non-free non-free-firmware
    4: deb http://deb.debian.org/debian/ bookworm-backports main contrib non-free non-free-firmware
  Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/google-chrome.list
    1: deb [arch=amd64] https://dl.google.com/linux/chrome/deb/ stable main
  Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/mx.list
    1: deb http://mxlinux.mirrors.uk2.net/packages/mx/repo/ bookworm main non-free
    2: deb http://mxlinux.mirrors.uk2.net/packages/mx/testrepo/ bookworm test
    3: deb http://mxlinux.mirrors.uk2.net/packages/mx/repo/ bookworm ahs
  Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/opera-stable.list
    1: deb https://deb.opera.com/opera-stable/ stable non-free
  Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/teamviewer.list
    1: deb [signed-by=/usr/share/keyrings/teamviewer-keyring.gpg] https://linux.teamviewer.com/deb/ stable main
  Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/vscode.list
    1: deb [arch=amd64,arm64,armhf] https://packages.microsoft.com/repos/code stable main
Info:
  Memory: total: 32 GiB available: 31.12 GiB used: 5.63 GiB (18.1%)
  Processes: 363 Power: uptime: 44m states: freeze,mem,disk suspend: deep avail: s2idle
    wakeups: 0 hibernate: platform avail: shutdown, reboot, suspend, test_resume image: 12.42 GiB
    services: org_kde_powerdevil,upowerd Init: SysVinit v: 3.08 runlevel: 5 default: graphical
    tool: systemctl
  Compilers: gcc: 12.2.0 Client: shell wrapper v: 5.2.15-release inxi: 3.3.36
Boot Mode: UEFI

Re: Black screen and pointer

Posted: Sun Oct 20, 2024 12:37 pm
by CharlesV
If your still struggling with this, I would suggest installing a Liquorix kernel to see if that resolves it. The 6.6.x or 6.9.x would be good to try, I have found liquorix kernels to be very helpful at resolving issues and may help this one.

And I would use MX Package Installer to install both the liquprix kernel and to reinstall those mesa and other updates.

Re: Black screen and pointer

Posted: Sun Oct 20, 2024 12:50 pm
by Kermit the Frog
In the meantime test repo should not be enabled always:

Code: Select all

deb http://mxlinux.mirrors.uk2.net/packages/mx/testrepo/ bookworm test
This one should've been commented out and enabled temporarily by "MX Package Installer" automatically when installing something from there and then disabled back. Keeping it enabled like that may cause problems or break your system.

Also: should we understand "if you use suspend rather than hibernating (at least to test) and then wake it up, everything's fine"?

Have a test with:

Code: Select all

sudo pm-suspend


No matter the answer is yes or no:

Code: Select all

lsblk -f | grep swap

Code: Select all

echo RESUME=UUID=XXX | sudo tee /etc/initramfs-tools/conf.d/resume ; sudo update-initramfs -uk all
(Copy-paste the uuid of the swap partition (nvme2n1p3) from the 1st output and replace the XXX with that)

Reboot.



Just btw:

Code: Select all

Swap:
  Kernel: swappiness: 60 (default)
Normally it's 15 on MX-23 , 60 makes it use swap too early, when there's no need. It seems like you manually changed that ...

Re: Black screen and pointer

Posted: Mon Oct 21, 2024 6:28 am
by altreed
CharlesV wrote: Sun Oct 20, 2024 12:37 pm If your still struggling with this, I would suggest installing a Liquorix kernel to see if that resolves it. The 6.6.x or 6.9.x would be good to try, I have found liquorix kernels to be very helpful at resolving issues and may help this one.

And I would use MX Package Installer to install both the liquprix kernel and to reinstall those mesa and other updates.
Thanks Charles, I will explore this route and report back.

Thanks for your advice

Re: Black screen and pointer

Posted: Mon Oct 21, 2024 7:19 am
by altreed
Kermit the Frog wrote: Sun Oct 20, 2024 12:50 pm In the meantime test repo should not be enabled always:

Code: Select all

deb http://mxlinux.mirrors.uk2.net/packages/mx/testrepo/ bookworm test
This one should've been commented out and enabled temporarily by "MX Package Installer" automatically when installing something from there and then disabled back. Keeping it enabled like that may cause problems or break your system.

Also: should we understand "if you use suspend rather than hibernating (at least to test) and then wake it up, everything's fine"?

Have a test with:

Code: Select all

sudo pm-suspend


No matter the answer is yes or no:

Code: Select all

lsblk -f | grep swap

Code: Select all

echo RESUME=XXX | sudo tee /etc/initramfs-tools/conf.d/resume ; sudo update-initramfs -uk all
(Copy-paste the uuid of the swap partition (nvme2n1p3) from the 1st output and replace the XXX with that)

Reboot.



Just btw:

Code: Select all

Swap:
  Kernel: swappiness: 60 (default)
Normally it's 15 on MX-23 , 60 makes it use swap too early, when there's no need. It seems like you manually changed that ...
Thanks Kermit :happy:

I will work through your suggestions and report back.

re: bookworm test , I must have enabled this when I first installed MX after selecting the distro I liked. I may have seen advice to make a change, but being a noob I wouldn't have known it was not advisable. I think I have managed to comment out the test repro.

re:suspend (and hibernation) both suspend and hibernation work exactly as you would expect. I spotted a couple of things not being quite right causing me to reboot and highlighting the nuisance of logging in and out has shown itself, along with the discover nuisance.

re: swappiness, I made any changes only on the guidance I could find online when seeking a functional hibernation solution. I have changed the swappiness back to 15.

:exclamation: Carrying out the change to the swap partition I get this:-

Code: Select all

update-initramfs: Generating /boot/initrd.img-6.1.0-13-amd64
W: Possible missing firmware /lib/firmware/amdgpu/ip_discovery.bin for module amdgpu
W: Possible missing firmware /lib/firmware/amdgpu/vega10_cap.bin for module amdgpu
W: Possible missing firmware /lib/firmware/amdgpu/sienna_cichlid_cap.bin for module amdgpu
W: Possible missing firmware /lib/firmware/amdgpu/navi12_cap.bin for module amdgpu
W: Possible missing firmware /lib/firmware/amdgpu/aldebaran_cap.bin for module amdgpu
W: Possible missing firmware /lib/firmware/amdgpu/gc_11_0_0_toc.bin for module amdgpu
W: Possible missing firmware /lib/firmware/amdgpu/sienna_cichlid_mes1.bin for module amdgpu
W: Possible missing firmware /lib/firmware/amdgpu/sienna_cichlid_mes.bin for module amdgpu
W: Possible missing firmware /lib/firmware/amdgpu/navi10_mes.bin for module amdgpu
W: Possible missing firmware /lib/firmware/amdgpu/gc_11_0_3_mes.bin for module amdgpu
I hope that is regarding the mesa update/reinstall suggestion.

:exclamation: Since reboot, I now do not get the Blackscreen startx issue, it is mended. But Discover is still being a winkle.

New sysinfo:-

Code: Select all

System:
  Kernel: 6.1.0-13-amd64 [6.1.55-1] arch: x86_64 bits: 64 compiler: gcc v: 12.2.0 clocksource: tsc
    avail: hpet,acpi_pm parameters: BOOT_IMAGE=/boot/vmlinuz-6.1.0-13-amd64 root=UUID=<filter> ro
    quiet splash
  Desktop: KDE Plasma v: 5.27.5 tk: Qt v: N/A info: frameworks v: 5.103.0 wm: kwin_wayland vt: 8
    dm: SDDM Distro: MX-23.4_KDE_x64 Libretto October 15 2023 base: Debian GNU/Linux 12 (bookworm)
Machine:
  Type: Desktop Mobo: Micro-Star model: PRO Z690-A (MS-7D25) v: 2.0 serial: <superuser required>
    uuid: <superuser required> UEFI: American Megatrends LLC. v: A.80 date: 08/31/2022
CPU:
  Info: model: 12th Gen Intel Core i5-12600K bits: 64 type: MST AMCP arch: Alder Lake gen: core 12
    level: v3 note: check built: 2021+ process: Intel 7 (10nm ESF) family: 6 model-id: 0x97 (151)
    stepping: 2 microcode: 0x35
  Topology: cpus: 1x dies: 1 clusters: 7 cores: 10 threads: 16 mt: 6 tpc: 2 st: 4 smt: enabled
    cache: L1: 864 KiB desc: d-4x32 KiB, 6x48 KiB; i-6x32 KiB, 4x64 KiB L2: 9.5 MiB
    desc: 6x1.2 MiB, 1x2 MiB L3: 20 MiB desc: 1x20 MiB
  Speed (MHz): avg: 800 min/max: 800/5000:3700 scaling: driver: intel_pstate governor: powersave
    cores: 1: 800 2: 800 3: 800 4: 800 5: 800 6: 800 7: 800 8: 800 9: 800 10: 800 11: 800 12: 800
    13: 800 14: 800 15: 800 16: 800 bogomips: 117964
  Flags: avx avx2 ht lm nx pae sse sse2 sse3 sse4_1 sse4_2 ssse3 vmx
  Vulnerabilities:
  Type: gather_data_sampling status: Not affected
  Type: itlb_multihit status: Not affected
  Type: l1tf status: Not affected
  Type: mds status: Not affected
  Type: meltdown status: Not affected
  Type: mmio_stale_data status: Not affected
  Type: retbleed status: Not affected
  Type: spec_rstack_overflow status: Not affected
  Type: spec_store_bypass mitigation: Speculative Store Bypass disabled via prctl
  Type: spectre_v1 mitigation: usercopy/swapgs barriers and __user pointer sanitization
  Type: spectre_v2 mitigation: Enhanced IBRS, IBPB: conditional, RSB filling, PBRSB-eIBRS: SW
    sequence
  Type: srbds status: Not affected
  Type: tsx_async_abort status: Not affected
Graphics:
  Device-1: Intel AlderLake-S GT1 vendor: Micro-Star MSI driver: i915 v: kernel arch: Gen-12.1
    process: Intel 10nm built: 2020-21 ports: active: none empty: DP-1, DP-2, HDMI-A-1, HDMI-A-2,
    HDMI-A-3, HDMI-A-4 bus-ID: 00:02.0 chip-ID: 8086:4680 class-ID: 0380
  Device-2: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD/ATI] Navi 31 [Radeon RX 7900 XT/7900 XTX] driver: amdgpu
    v: kernel arch: RDNA-3 code: Navi-3x process: TSMC n5 (5nm) built: 2022+ pcie: gen: 4
    speed: 16 GT/s lanes: 16 ports: active: DP-3 empty: DP-4,DP-5,HDMI-A-5 bus-ID: 03:00.0
    chip-ID: 1002:744c class-ID: 0300
  Device-3: Oculus VR Rift CV1 Sensor driver: uvcvideo type: USB rev: 2.1 speed: 480 Mb/s
    lanes: 1 mode: 2.0 bus-ID: 1-11:6 chip-ID: 2833:0211 class-ID: ef00 serial: <filter>
  Device-4: Oculus VR Rift CV1 Sensor driver: uvcvideo type: USB rev: 3.0 speed: 5 Gb/s lanes: 1
    mode: 3.2 gen-1x1 bus-ID: 6-1:2 chip-ID: 2833:0211 class-ID: ef00 serial: <filter>
  Display: wayland server: X.org v: 1.21.1.7 with: Xwayland v: 22.1.9 compositor: kwin_wayland
    driver: X: loaded: amdgpu dri: radeonsi gpu: i915,amdgpu display-ID: 0
  Monitor-1: DP-3 res: 3440x1440 size: N/A modes: N/A
  API: EGL v: 1.5 hw: drv: intel iris drv: amd radeonsi platforms: device: 0 drv: radeonsi
    device: 1 drv: iris device: 2 drv: swrast gbm: drv: kms_swrast surfaceless: drv: radeonsi
    wayland: drv: radeonsi x11: drv: radeonsi
  API: OpenGL v: 4.6 vendor: amd mesa v: 24.2.2-1~mx23ahs glx-v: 1.4 es-v: 3.2 direct-render: yes
    renderer: AMD Radeon RX 7900 XTX (radeonsi navi31 LLVM 15.0.6 DRM 3.49 6.1.0-13-amd64)
    device-ID: 1002:744c memory: 23.44 GiB unified: no display-ID: :1.0
Audio:
  Device-1: Intel Alder Lake-S HD Audio vendor: Micro-Star MSI driver: snd_hda_intel v: kernel
    alternate: snd_sof_pci_intel_tgl bus-ID: 00:1f.3 chip-ID: 8086:7ad0 class-ID: 0403
  Device-2: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD/ATI] driver: snd_hda_intel v: kernel pcie: gen: 4
    speed: 16 GT/s lanes: 16 bus-ID: 03:00.1 chip-ID: 1002:ab30 class-ID: 0403
  API: ALSA v: k6.1.0-13-amd64 status: kernel-api tools: alsactl,alsamixer,amixer
  Server-1: PipeWire v: 1.2.5 status: active with: 1: pipewire-pulse status: active
    2: wireplumber status: active 3: pipewire-alsa type: plugin 4: pw-jack type: plugin
    tools: pactl,pw-cat,pw-cli,wpctl
Network:
  Device-1: Intel Ethernet I225-V vendor: Micro-Star MSI driver: igc v: kernel pcie: gen: 2
    speed: 5 GT/s lanes: 1 port: N/A bus-ID: 09:00.0 chip-ID: 8086:15f3 class-ID: 0200
  IF: eth0 state: up speed: 1000 Mbps duplex: full mac: <filter>
  Info: services: mld,NetworkManager,smbd
Drives:
  Local Storage: total: 8.82 TiB used: 472.77 GiB (5.2%)
  SMART Message: Unable to run smartctl. Root privileges required.
  ID-1: /dev/nvme0n1 maj-min: 259:0 vendor: Corsair model: Force MP510 size: 894.25 GiB
    block-size: physical: 512 B logical: 512 B speed: 31.6 Gb/s lanes: 4 tech: SSD serial: <filter>
    fw-rev: ECFM12.2 temp: 48.9 C scheme: GPT
  ID-2: /dev/nvme1n1 maj-min: 259:7 vendor: Samsung model: SSD 960 EVO 250GB size: 232.89 GiB
    block-size: physical: 512 B logical: 512 B speed: 31.6 Gb/s lanes: 4 tech: SSD serial: <filter>
    fw-rev: 3B7QCXE7 temp: 44.9 C scheme: GPT
  ID-3: /dev/nvme2n1 maj-min: 259:12 vendor: Intel model: SSDPEDMW400G4 size: 372.61 GiB
    block-size: physical: 512 B logical: 512 B speed: 31.6 Gb/s lanes: 4 tech: SSD serial: <filter>
    fw-rev: 8EV10135 temp: 33.9 C scheme: MBR
  ID-4: /dev/nvme3n1 maj-min: 259:4 vendor: Seagate model: FireCuda 530 ZP4000GM30013
    size: 3.64 TiB block-size: physical: 512 B logical: 512 B speed: 63.2 Gb/s lanes: 4 tech: SSD
    serial: <filter> fw-rev: SU6SM003 temp: 33.9 C scheme: GPT
  ID-5: /dev/sda maj-min: 8:0 vendor: Corsair model: Force 3 SSD size: 83.85 GiB block-size:
    physical: 512 B logical: 512 B speed: 6.0 Gb/s tech: SSD serial: <filter> fw-rev: 5.02
    scheme: GPT
  ID-6: /dev/sdb maj-min: 8:16 vendor: Seagate model: ST4000DM006-2G5107 size: 3.64 TiB
    block-size: physical: 4096 B logical: 512 B speed: 6.0 Gb/s tech: HDD rpm: 7200 serial: <filter>
    fw-rev: DN04 scheme: GPT
Partition:
  ID-1: / raw-size: 303.89 GiB size: 298.05 GiB (98.08%) used: 236.39 GiB (79.3%) fs: ext4
    dev: /dev/nvme2n1p2 maj-min: 259:14
  ID-2: /boot/efi raw-size: 256 MiB size: 252 MiB (98.46%) used: 278 KiB (0.1%) fs: vfat
    dev: /dev/nvme2n1p1 maj-min: 259:13
Swap:
  Kernel: swappiness: 15 (default 60) cache-pressure: 100 (default) zswap: no
  ID-1: swap-1 type: partition size: 68.47 GiB used: 0 KiB (0.0%) priority: -2
    dev: /dev/nvme2n1p3 maj-min: 259:15
Sensors:
  System Temperatures: cpu: 29.0 C mobo: N/A gpu: amdgpu temp: 65.0 C mem: 86.0 C
  Fan Speeds (rpm): N/A gpu: amdgpu fan: 646
Repos:
  Packages: 2765 pm: dpkg pkgs: 2748 libs: 1439 tools: apt,apt-get,aptitude,nala pm: rpm pkgs: 0
    pm: flatpak pkgs: 17
  No active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list
  Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/brave-browser-release.list
    1: deb [signed-by=/usr/share/keyrings/brave-browser-archive-keyring.gpg arch=amd64] https://brave-browser-apt-release.s3.brave.com/ stable main
  Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian-stable-updates.list
    1: deb http://deb.debian.org/debian/ bookworm-updates main contrib non-free non-free-firmware
  Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian.list
    1: deb http://deb.debian.org/debian/ bookworm main contrib non-free non-free-firmware
    2: deb http://security.debian.org/debian-security/ bookworm-security main contrib non-free non-free-firmware
    3: deb-src http://deb.debian.org/debian/ bookworm main contrib non-free non-free-firmware
    4: deb http://deb.debian.org/debian/ bookworm-backports main contrib non-free non-free-firmware
  Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/google-chrome.list
    1: deb [arch=amd64] https://dl.google.com/linux/chrome/deb/ stable main
  Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/mx.list
    1: deb http://mxlinux.mirrors.uk2.net/packages/mx/repo/ bookworm main non-free
    2: deb http://mxlinux.mirrors.uk2.net/packages/mx/repo/ bookworm ahs
  Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/opera-stable.list
    1: deb https://deb.opera.com/opera-stable/ stable non-free
  Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/teamviewer.list
    1: deb [signed-by=/usr/share/keyrings/teamviewer-keyring.gpg] https://linux.teamviewer.com/deb/ stable main
  Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/vscode.list
    1: deb [arch=amd64,arm64,armhf] https://packages.microsoft.com/repos/code stable main
Info:
  Memory: total: 32 GiB available: 31.12 GiB used: 2.98 GiB (9.6%)
  Processes: 343 Power: uptime: 7m states: freeze,mem,disk suspend: deep avail: s2idle wakeups: 0
    hibernate: platform avail: shutdown, reboot, suspend, test_resume image: 12.42 GiB
    services: org_kde_powerdevil,upowerd Init: SysVinit v: 3.08 runlevel: 5 default: graphical
    tool: systemctl
  Compilers: gcc: 12.2.0 Client: shell wrapper v: 5.2.15-release inxi: 3.3.36
Boot Mode: UEFI
Thanks for your advice

Re: Black screen and pointer

Posted: Mon Oct 21, 2024 9:12 am
by Kermit the Frog
Glad to hear it's ok now.

That "Possible missing firmware" is ignorable (it's kind of "traditional" :D ) which are in fact just "info" rather than errors. They'll appear whenever initramfs is updated (i.e. whenever you install a new kernel or the default (6.1) one is auto-updated ). In the meantime, those mentioned "missing" ones are in fact not existing even in the most recent firmware tree in the original source.

You can (if you like only) add

Code: Select all

loglevel=3
to "Kernel Parameters" in "MX Boot Options" and it'll print just "error conditions" rather than all kinds of "warnings" (which's equivalent of 4 by default). (I, too did so).


P.S. "MX Package Installer" is the best one. Afaik Discover is already known to be problematic (in general).
Btw. any time you like (even daily) you can simply update (and even "full-upgrade" : to new point release etc.) with :

Code: Select all

sudo nala upgrade
I even created an "alias" for that and just type two letters and press Enter :)

Re: Black screen and pointer

Posted: Mon Oct 21, 2024 10:20 am
by altreed
Many thanks for your help and guidance.

Much appreciated.

I regularly for cli apt-get update and upgrade. I am trying to embrace linux :happy:

Re: Black screen and pointer

Posted: Thu Oct 24, 2024 8:56 am
by altreed
Hi,

I have tried to carry out the updates using nala, but still discover highlights updates for mesa and freedesktop.

I tried to use mx package installer, but unfortunately it throws an error.
[?25l[6n[6n**
OSTree:ERROR:src/libostree/ostree-fetcher-curl.c:526:sock_cb: code should not be reachedBail out! OSTree:ERROR:src/libostree/ostree-fetcher-curl.c:526:sock_cb: code should not be reached
Aborted
2024/10/24 13:55:20 socat[24368] E waitpid(): child 24369 exited with status 134
Image

I hope someone knows how to fix this.

Thanks
Dave

Re: Black screen and pointer

Posted: Thu Oct 24, 2024 9:16 am
by Kermit the Frog
altreed wrote: Thu Oct 24, 2024 8:56 am... still discover highlights updates for mesa and freedesktop...
At least I can say (from your QSI) your mesa is the most up-to-date version currently:

Code: Select all

mesa v: 24.2.2-1~mx23ahs

Re: Black screen and pointer

Posted: Thu Oct 24, 2024 4:57 pm
by Stevo
You should also install the 6.1 Debian kernel metapackages using MXPI to get automatic security updates, since the -13 version is rather antique now.

Re: Black screen and pointer

Posted: Fri Oct 25, 2024 2:41 pm
by altreed
Stevo wrote: Thu Oct 24, 2024 4:57 pm You should also install the 6.1 Debian kernel metapackages using MXPI to get automatic security updates, since the -13 version is rather antique now.
Thanks Stevo, could you offer the package name? I looked through the list, it isn't apparent.

Re: Black screen and pointer

Posted: Fri Oct 25, 2024 3:00 pm
by Kermit the Frog
altreed wrote: Fri Oct 25, 2024 2:41 pm... could you offer the package name? I looked through the list ...
Though the question is not to me:

Code: Select all

Debian 64 bit - Debian default kernel auto updates package
in "MX Package Installer", 1st tab, Kernels section. Tick that one, click install.

Re: Black screen and pointer

Posted: Fri Oct 25, 2024 5:54 pm
by altreed
Many thanks, again.