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Posted: **Sat Aug 31, 2024 6:31 am**

Hello,

I have already copied an MXLinux that I installed, on a whole disk in one PC, means without partitioning it, to a USB, and I need to know 'if it' (the USB) can be added to a partition into another PC.

With Gparted, it cannot be “pasted” and via the commands using 'dd' either, since I have to indicate the path where it goes and this should be “unassigned”, I suppose there must be some other way to do it, is this not possible?

Thanks.

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keos@localhost:~> inxi -fxxxrz
CPU:
  Info: quad core model: 11th Gen Intel Core i7-1165G7 bits: 64 type: MT MCP
    smt: enabled arch: Tiger Lake rev: 1 cache: L1: 320 KiB L2: 5 MiB L3: 12 MiB
  Speed (MHz): avg: 564 high: 1208 min/max: 400/4700 cores: 1: 1208 2: 400
    3: 400 4: 400 5: 400 6: 400 7: 906 8: 400 bogomips: 44864
  Flags: 3dnowprefetch abm acpi adx aes aperfmperf apic arat
    arch_capabilities arch_perfmon art avx avx2 avx512_bitalg avx512_vbmi2
    avx512_vnni avx512_vp2intersect avx512_vpopcntdq avx512bw avx512cd
    avx512dq avx512f avx512ifma avx512vbmi avx512vl bmi1 bmi2 bts cat_l2
    cdp_l2 clflush clflushopt clwb cmov constant_tsc cpuid cpuid_fault cx16
    cx8 de ds_cpl dtes64 dtherm dts epb ept ept_ad erms est f16c flexpriority
    flush_l1d fma fpu fsgsbase fsrm fxsr gfni ht hwp hwp_act_window hwp_epp
    hwp_notify hwp_pkg_req ibpb ibrs ibrs_enhanced ibt ida intel_pt invpcid
    lahf_lm lm mca mce md_clear mmx monitor movbe movdir64b movdiri msr mtrr
    nonstop_tsc nopl nx ospke pae pat pbe pcid pclmulqdq pdcm pdpe1gb pebs
    pge pku pln pni popcnt pse pse36 pts rdpid rdrand rdseed rdt_a rdtscp
    rep_good sdbg sep sha_ni smap smep split_lock_detect ss ssbd sse sse2
    sse4_1 sse4_2 ssse3 stibp syscall tm tm2 tpr_shadow tsc tsc_adjust
    tsc_deadline_timer tsc_known_freq umip vaes vme vmx vnmi vpclmulqdq vpid
    x2apic xgetbv1 xsave xsavec xsaveopt xsaves xtopology xtpr
Repos:
  Packages: pm: rpm pkgs: N/A note: see --rpm
  Active zypp repos in: /etc/zypp/repos.d/download.opensuse.org-non-oss.repo
    1: download.opensuse.org-non-oss ~ http://download.opensuse.org/tumbleweed/repo/non-oss/
  Active zypp repos in: /etc/zypp/repos.d/download.opensuse.org-oss.repo
    1: download.opensuse.org-oss ~ http://download.opensuse.org/tumbleweed/repo/oss/
  Active zypp repos in: /etc/zypp/repos.d/download.opensuse.org-tumbleweed.repo
    1: download.opensuse.org-tumbleweed ~ http://download.opensuse.org/update/tumbleweed/
  Active zypp repos in: /etc/zypp/repos.d/home_AndnoVember_test.repo
    1: home_AndnoVember_test ~ https://download.opensuse.org/repositories/home:/AndnoVember:/test/openSUSE_Leap_15.3/
  Active zypp repos in: /etc/zypp/repos.d/home_ponchale1.repo
    1: home_ponchale1 ~ https://download.opensuse.org/repositories/home:/ponchale1/openSUSE_Tumbleweed/
  Active zypp repos in: /etc/zypp/repos.d/openSUSE-20240813-0.repo
    1: openSUSE-20240813-0 ~ http://download.opensuse.org/tumbleweed/repo/oss/
  No active zypp repos in: /etc/zypp/repos.d/repo-debug.repo
  Active zypp repos in: /etc/zypp/repos.d/repo-openh264.repo
    1: repo-openh264 ~ http://codecs.opensuse.org/openh264/openSUSE_Tumbleweed
  No active zypp repos in: /etc/zypp/repos.d/repo-source.repo
  Active zypp repos in: /etc/zypp/repos.d/yandex-browser.repo
    1: yandex-browser ~ http://repo.yandex.ru/yandex-browser/rpm/stable/x86_64
keos@localhost:~>

Posted: **Sat Aug 31, 2024 6:33 am**

With all help requests, please share your full Quick System Info, found in the menu under Favorites. Press the Copy for forum button, then click paste in a reply. If need be, you can do this with the LiveUSB, thanks.

Topic moved, not a tip or trick shared.

Posted: **Sat Aug 31, 2024 7:22 am**

This is not the QSI....

There's some approaches to copy a whole disk with or without partition table to another disk via dd. The gist of it is that the target block device has to be exactly the same size or larger to copy successfully. You can also copy block devices (disks or partitions) to (new) files within a filesystem instead of block devices. That's most useful for backups.

Can you post outputs of lsblk -f of both PCs and one with connected usb drive to show an overview of what's available?

Another question is what do you want to accomplish with the copy? Getting it to boot might involve additional steps.

Posted: **Sat Aug 31, 2024 7:25 am**

It is an alternative to the QSI, it is on antix.

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inxi -fxxxrza

is the full QSI command that gets executed.

Posted: **Sat Aug 31, 2024 8:15 am**

First of all I want to make myself understood.

I have a complete system already copied to a USB, this system was installed on the entire disk of a PC.

Now I am going to add more memory to that PC (it has only 16GB) and later I'm going to make the partition the disk, so I need to know how I can, if it is possible, to add, to one of the partitions that I will create, 'what is' on the USB (the whole disk of that ...).

I don't want to confuse you by giving you information that may not be related to the matter at the moment. I need to know first if you understand what I intend to do because it may not be possible.

Thanks

Posted: **Sat Aug 31, 2024 8:34 am**

keos wrote: Sat Aug 31, 2024 8:15 amI have a complete system already copied to a USB, this system was installed on the entire disk of a PC.

Ok, so far so good. That's a full copy of the local disk including the partition table done by the likes of dd if=/dev/sdX of=/dev/sdY

keos wrote: Sat Aug 31, 2024 8:15 amNow I am going to add more memory to that PC (it has only 16GB) ...

Memory has nothing to do with the disks/block devices, you can do that without changing any data.

keos wrote: Sat Aug 31, 2024 8:15 am... later I'm going to make the partition the disk, so I need to know how I can, if it is possible, to add, to one of the partitions that I will create, 'what is' on the USB (the whole disk of that ...).

Not sure what you mean by that tbh.

Posted: **Sat Aug 31, 2024 8:47 am**

Ah, maybe this is the essential point that lends itself to confusion if I don't explain myself better; by having more memory in the PC I will be able to install other systems, “if,” I erase absolutely everything (that's why I copied the system to a USB)...

Then, I will do a new partitioning ... is it possible to install in one these new partitions that system that I have in the USB? -- I am afraid it is not possible, am I wrong?.

Posted: **Sat Aug 31, 2024 9:11 am**

If you are talking about dual or multi booting, 16 GB of RAM is enough to run every OS, so that wouldn't really be necessary, but ok.

If you want to re-partition the PC's drive that's another story. Since you will be giving up space for new partitions, you will run out of space to copy the old partitions back from the usb stick afterwards. They'd have to be shrunk first which is a whole other task depending on available space and the file systems in use. I strongly recommend getting a bigger drive if that's what you're planning. This would have the advantage that you still had your old drive as additional backup.

An alternative approach would be to copy data from within the partitions of the usb stick to a newly created partition via a tool like rsync (-avx). I moved full (and running, but this might not be recommended) installations from HDD to SSD like that before. The caveat is that you have to adjust your fstab file within the copy afterwards and also install or update your bootloader manually in a chroot environment to make the new system bootable.

Posted: **Sat Aug 31, 2024 9:43 am**

What was recommended to me to change -- on another site/forum -- was this ...:

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B076P63R3N?

EDIT:

By the way,

This is the machine on which I intend to make the change and the system I would like to keep:

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[CODE]System:
  Kernel: 6.10.6-2-liquorix-amd64 [6.10-6~mx23ahs] arch: x86_64 bits: 64 compiler: gcc v: 12.2.0 parameters: audit=0
    intel_pstate=disable BOOT_IMAGE=/boot/vmlinuz-6.10.6-2-liquorix-amd64 root=UUID=<filter> ro
    quiet splash
  Desktop: Xfce v: 4.18.1 tk: Gtk v: 3.24.36 info: xfce4-panel wm: xfwm v: 4.18.0 vt: 7
    dm: LightDM v: 1.26.0 Distro: MX-23.3_ahs_x64 Libretto January 21  2024 base: Debian GNU/Linux
    12 (bookworm)
Machine:
  Type: Laptop System: GOOGLE product: Peppy v: 1.0 serial: <superuser required> Chassis: type: 9
    serial: <superuser required>
  Mobo: GOOGLE model: Peppy v: 1.0 serial: <superuser required> UEFI: coreboot
    v: MrChromebox-4.17.2 date: 07/18/2022
Battery:
  ID-1: BAT0 charge: 32.7 Wh (100.0%) condition: 32.7/44.7 Wh (73.1%) volts: 12.7 min: 11.4
    model: SONYCor AP13J4K type: Li-ion serial: <filter> status: full cycles: 230
CPU:
  Info: model: Intel Celeron 2955U bits: 64 type: MCP arch: Haswell level: v2 built: 2013-15
    process: Intel 22nm family: 6 model-id: 0x45 (69) stepping: 1 microcode: 0x26
  Topology: cpus: 1x cores: 2 smt: <unsupported> cache: L1: 128 KiB desc: d-2x32 KiB; i-2x32 KiB
    L2: 512 KiB desc: 2x256 KiB L3: 2 MiB desc: 1x2 MiB
  Speed (MHz): avg: 1397 min/max: 800/1400 scaling: driver: acpi-cpufreq governor: ondemand
    cores: 1: 1397 2: 1397 bogomips: 5586
  Flags: ht lm nx pae sse sse2 sse3 sse4_1 sse4_2 ssse3 vmx
  Vulnerabilities:
  Type: gather_data_sampling status: Not affected
  Type: itlb_multihit status: KVM: VMX disabled
  Type: l1tf mitigation: PTE Inversion; VMX: conditional cache flushes, SMT disabled
  Type: mds mitigation: Clear CPU buffers; SMT disabled
  Type: meltdown mitigation: PTI
  Type: mmio_stale_data status: Unknown: No mitigations
  Type: reg_file_data_sampling status: Not affected
  Type: retbleed status: Not affected
  Type: spec_rstack_overflow status: Not affected
  Type: spec_store_bypass mitigation: Speculative Store Bypass disabled via prctl
  Type: spectre_v1 mitigation: usercopy/swapgs barriers and __user pointer sanitization
  Type: spectre_v2 mitigation: Retpolines; IBPB: conditional; IBRS_FW; STIBP: disabled; RSB
    filling; PBRSB-eIBRS: Not affected; BHI: Not affected
  Type: srbds mitigation: Microcode
  Type: tsx_async_abort status: Not affected
Graphics:
  Device-1: Intel Haswell-ULT Integrated Graphics driver: i915 v: kernel arch: Gen-7.5
    process: Intel 22nm built: 2013 ports: active: eDP-1 empty: HDMI-A-1 bus-ID: 00:02.0
    chip-ID: 8086:0a06 class-ID: 0300
  Device-2: Sunplus Innovation HD WebCam type: USB driver: uvcvideo bus-ID: 1-3:2
    chip-ID: 1bcf:2c67 class-ID: 0e02
  Display: x11 server: X.Org v: 1.21.1.7 compositor: xfwm v: 4.18.0 driver: X:
    loaded: modesetting unloaded: fbdev,vesa dri: crocus gpu: i915 display-ID: :0.0 screens: 1
  Screen-1: 0 s-res: 1366x768 s-dpi: 96 s-size: 361x203mm (14.21x7.99") s-diag: 414mm (16.31")
  Monitor-1: eDP-1 model: ChiMei InnoLux 0x1132 built: 2013 res: 1366x768 hz: 60 dpi: 136
    gamma: 1.2 size: 256x144mm (10.08x5.67") diag: 294mm (11.6") ratio: 16:9 modes: 1366x768
  API: OpenGL v: 4.6 Mesa 23.1.2-1~mx23ahs renderer: Mesa Intel HD Graphics (HSW GT1)
    direct-render: Yes
Audio:
  Device-1: Intel Haswell-ULT HD Audio driver: snd_hda_intel v: kernel bus-ID: 00:03.0
    chip-ID: 8086:0a0c class-ID: 0403
  Device-2: Intel 8 Series HD Audio driver: snd_hda_intel v: kernel bus-ID: 00:1b.0
    chip-ID: 8086:9c20 class-ID: 0403
  API: ALSA v: k6.10.6-2-liquorix-amd64 status: kernel-api tools: alsamixer,amixer
  Server-1: PipeWire v: 1.0.0 status: active with: 1: pipewire-pulse status: active
    2: wireplumber status: active 3: pipewire-alsa type: plugin 4: pw-jack type: plugin
    tools: pactl,pw-cat,pw-cli,wpctl
Network:
  Device-1: Qualcomm Atheros AR9462 Wireless Network Adapter vendor: Foxconn driver: ath9k
    v: kernel modules: wl pcie: gen: 1 speed: 2.5 GT/s lanes: 1 bus-ID: 01:00.0 chip-ID: 168c:0034
    class-ID: 0280
  IF: wlan0 state: up mac: <filter>
Bluetooth:
  Device-1: Foxconn / Hon Hai type: USB driver: btusb v: 0.8 bus-ID: 1-4:4 chip-ID: 0489:e056
    class-ID: e001
  Report: hciconfig ID: hci0 rfk-id: 1 state: up address: <filter> bt-v: 2.1 lmp-v: 4.0 sub-v: 1
    hci-v: 4.1 rev: 1102
  Info: acl-mtu: 1022:8 sco-mtu: 183:5 link-policy: rswitch hold sniff
    link-mode: peripheral accept service-classes: rendering, capturing, audio, telephony
Drives:
  Local Storage: total: 14.91 GiB used: 11.14 GiB (74.7%)
  SMART Message: Unable to run smartctl. Root privileges required.
  ID-1: /dev/sda maj-min: 8:0 vendor: Kingston model: SNS4151S316G size: 14.91 GiB block-size:
    physical: 512 B logical: 512 B speed: 6.0 Gb/s type: SSD serial: <filter> rev: 01.1 scheme: GPT
Partition:
  ID-1: / raw-size: 14.66 GiB size: 14.33 GiB (97.74%) used: 11.14 GiB (77.7%) fs: ext4
    dev: /dev/sda2 maj-min: 8:2
  ID-2: /boot/efi raw-size: 256 MiB size: 252 MiB (98.46%) used: 274 KiB (0.1%) fs: vfat
    dev: /dev/sda1 maj-min: 8:1
Swap:
  Kernel: swappiness: 15 (default 60) cache-pressure: 100 (default)
  ID-1: swap-1 type: file size: 2 GiB used: 0 KiB (0.0%) priority: -2 file: /swap/swap
Sensors:
  System Temperatures: cpu: 48.0 C pch: 100.0 C mobo: N/A
  Fan Speeds (RPM): N/A
Repos:
  Packages: pm: dpkg pkgs: 2328 libs: 1265 tools: apt,apt-get,aptitude,nala,synaptic pm: rpm
    pkgs: 0
  No active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list
  Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian-stable-updates.list
    1: deb http://deb.debian.org/debian bookworm-updates main contrib non-free non-free-firmware
  Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian.list
    1: deb http://deb.debian.org/debian bookworm main contrib non-free non-free-firmware
    2: deb http://security.debian.org/debian-security bookworm-security main contrib non-free non-free-firmware
  Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/mx.list
    1: deb http://mirrors.rit.edu/mxlinux/mx-packages/mx/repo/ bookworm main non-free
    2: deb http://mirrors.rit.edu/mxlinux/mx-packages/mx/repo/ bookworm ahs
  Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/yandex-browser.list
    1: deb [arch=amd64] https://repo.yandex.ru/yandex-browser/deb stable main
Info:
  Processes: 274 Uptime: 9m wakeups: 3 Memory: 3.71 GiB used: 1.6 GiB (43.2%) Init: SysVinit
  v: 3.06 runlevel: 5 default: graphical tool: systemctl Compilers: gcc: 12.2.0 alt: 12
  Client: shell wrapper v: 5.2.15-release inxi: 3.3.26
Boot Mode: UEFI

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Posted: **Sat Aug 31, 2024 9:58 am**

Yes, that's a SSD aka the disk. No RAM/memory. Make sure your system supports M.2 format before buying one.

If you want to boot different OS' and tinker with multiboot 120 GB is probably not enough, I'd recommend AT LEAST 240 GB, better more. Calculate about 40-50 GB per OS.

Posted: **Sat Aug 31, 2024 10:02 am**

We post together, please read the EDIT, I've already ordered it ...

Posted: **Sat Aug 31, 2024 10:04 am**

MadMax wrote: Sat Aug 31, 2024 9:11 am If you are talking about dual or multi booting, 16 GB of RAM is enough to run every OS

He's not talking about RAM.

Posted: **Sat Aug 31, 2024 11:21 am**

Well, it appeared that way until he posted his QSI

He even referred to it as "memory"....

But to wrap this up - yes, you will be able to copy your old system to the new 120 GB SSD. Just replace it, boot from a live system and dd the usb stick to the new drive. It will leave about 95 GB unpartitioned which then will be available for installing additional OS' or to increase the size of the small 15 GB partition you're currently using.

It should look something like that in gparted:

|---|-----------------|-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------|

Posted: **Sat Aug 31, 2024 11:33 am**

@madmax,

Just replace it, boot from a live system and dd the usb stick to the new drive.

Ok, I think I understand, anyway, I still haven't received the device ... if I have any difficulties I will continue here with this thread...

-- if everything goes well I will mark it as solved by then.

Thanks!

Posted: **Sat Aug 31, 2024 12:22 pm**

Eadwine Rose wrote: Sat Aug 31, 2024 7:25 am It is an alternative to the QSI, it is on antix.
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inxi -fxxxrza
is the full QSI command that gets executed.

It's -F ( -f has a different function):

man inxi wrote:
-f , --flags
Show all CPU flags used, not just the short list. Not shown with -F in order to avoid spamming. ARM CPUs: show features items.

-F , --full
Show Full output for inxi. Includes all Upper Case line letters (except -J and -W) plus --swap, -s and -n. Does not show extra verbose options such as -d -f -i -J -l -m -o -p -r -t -u -x unless you use those arguments in the command, e.g.: inxi -Frmxx

Posted: **Sat Aug 31, 2024 12:37 pm**

Oh yeah. Big f.

Anyway, semantics now, and moot.

Posted: **Sat Aug 31, 2024 12:43 pm**

In a nutshell:

For the system: MX Snapshot. Create an iso of the running system , boot with, then install on SSD. Can use Custom Install method and create some other (data etc.) partitions if you like.

Or:

On GParted "copy-paste" the partitions one by one. The SSD needs to be "unallocated space". Copy the partition, Change device (to ssd) then paste, Apply. That's it.

Posted: **Sat Aug 31, 2024 12:46 pm**

Eadwine Rose wrote: Sat Aug 31, 2024 12:37 pm...semantics now, and moot.

Yes, that was just for future readers.

Posted: **Wed Sep 04, 2024 1:29 pm**

Ok, I already did the replacement of that part, but the installed system just disappeared, now only the new memory appears in Gparted, I think it's like 112GB.

Then I partition the disk...

It seems to me that I should insert a live-USB + the recovered-USB system in another port and apply:

dd if=/dev/sdX of=/dev/sdY

Where X is the recovered system and Y the partition where it will 'go in'

Is this correct...?

EDIT:

This is what I did, I want MX on partition # 5

EDIT:

More information:

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demo@mx1:~
$ lsblk -f
NAME  FSTYPE FSVER LABEL     UUID                                 FSAVAIL FSUSE% MOUNTPOINTS
loop0 squash 4.0                                                        0   100% /live/linux
sda                                                                              
├─sda1
│     vfat   FAT32           A5C7-2839                                           
├─sda2
│     swap   1               fd8f3e7b-9875-4c6b-8588-eb9ce5695fb2                [SWAP]
├─sda3
│     ext4   1.0             ba27cd4e-19c8-46c4-81e9-43c115f71a25                
├─sda4
│     ext4   1.0             7b76b635-0024-4c33-9691-47d315cff798                
└─sda5
      ext4   1.0             786e985a-1e0e-45c4-b288-79c66f5df592                
sdb   iso966 Jolie MX-Live   2024-01-21-17-47-54-00                     0   100% /live/boot-dev
├─sdb1
│     iso966 Jolie MX-Live   2024-01-21-17-47-54-00                              
└─sdb2
      vfat   FAT16 EFI-LIVE  5F46-8E64                                           
sdc                                                                              
├─sdc1
│     vfat   FAT32 EFI-SYSTEM
│                            1EBC-E74C                                           
└─sdc2
      ext4   1.0   rootMX23  af9f5cb8-f533-407d-8ab7-b303fcc9a93f    3.1G    73% /media/demo/rootMX23
demo@mx1:~
$

Posted: **Wed Sep 04, 2024 4:10 pm**

You really need to differentiate between the term memory (which is RAM and does NOT show in gparted) and storage space (which is a hard drive that shows up in gparted).

Posted: **Wed Sep 04, 2024 4:21 pm**

yes, that's correct, thanks

Posted: **Sat Sep 07, 2024 3:09 am**

I went back to the Gparted option that I always use to solve all these issues, it is an extraordinary tool.!

All I did was to unmount the partition were MX was installed on the USB, copy it and go to the system and paste it... just 10 mts!

Posted: **Sat Sep 07, 2024 4:05 am**

Great!

Please click the checkmark in the top right of the post (to the left of the username/image) that holds the solution to mark the topic solved, thanks :)

Posted: **Sat Sep 07, 2024 5:38 am**

Nice!

I actually didn't know about gparted's ability to copy-paste whole partitions, that's cool.

Posted: **Sun Sep 08, 2024 5:33 am**

It's great, especially for one who is not an expert in these matters, and yes, It could do many other things, but we have to be very careful not to make a mistake because it is a very powerful tool.

Now I'm trying to see how could copy just the 'Home' and to take it later to an USB but I can't find the solution for the moment, well maybe it ... another thread ...

thanks,

Greetings

Posted: **Mon Sep 09, 2024 11:48 am**

Example:
Disk1
[---|-----------------|---------------------------------------------------------------------------------]

Disk2
[-------------------------]

Disk1 + 2 (with a mount point for Disk2 into the partition3 of Disk1, ex: /home/pt1)
[---|-----------------|-----------------------------------[-------------------------]----------------------------------------------]

Posted: **Tue Sep 10, 2024 7:57 am**

I'm sorry but I don't understand that graph. Could you please elaborate on the matter?. Thanks.

Posted: **Tue Sep 10, 2024 10:59 am**

keos wrote: Tue Sep 10, 2024 7:57 am I'm sorry but I don't understand that graph. Could you please elaborate on the matter?. Thanks.

See here for more details:
https://takethenotes.com/mount-points/

Posted: **Tue Sep 10, 2024 1:04 pm**

I don't see the relationship with Gparted -- what I'm looking for is to be able to copy the 'Home' and then paste it into ...

Posted: **Tue Sep 10, 2024 1:15 pm**

I don't see the relationship with Gparted -- what I'm looking for is to be able to copy the 'Home' and then paste it into ...

I'm trying to see how could copy just the 'Home' and to take it later to an USB but I can't find the solution for the moment

Posted: **Tue Sep 10, 2024 1:22 pm**

... The answer was for the generic question into the title. ("Could a whole disk be added into a partition, another PC?")

Posted: **Wed Sep 11, 2024 4:56 am**

I see, although the most convenient solution to the issue was to resort to the efficiency, effectiveness and speed with which Gparted did the job -- I thought it had something to do with how the issue was resolved. Thanks

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