32 bit next release?

[jessejazza]

I also belong to a Debian list and have seen a msg that suggests that after Debian 12 there will not be another 32 bit release. I can only guess that MX will not be doing another - is that true?

[Adrian]

Of course, we build upon Debian, we are not going to support an architecture that Debian is not supporting.

[dolphin_oracle]

I believe what debian said is that there would not be a 32 bit iso or installer, neither of which being something we use. we will see what that does to the rest of the repo. right now trixie has quite a few 32 bit packages, including kernels.

[fehlix]

Of course, we build upon Debian, we are not going to support an architecture that Debian is not supporting.

I think the question was about releases. Not about supported architectures:
According to this
https://d-i.debian.org/manual/en.i386/c ... ectures .
32bit "Intel x86 based" will still be supported in Debian 13 /trixie.
So, as I read this even if Debian may not provide a 32bit release, it may still be possible to have a 32bit Mx Linux release.

[Adrian]

As long as they have 32-bit repos we can build a 32-bit ISO...

[fehlix]

As long as they have 32-bit repos we can build a 32-bit ISO...

Yea, just checked seems also any needed bootloader like GRUB stuff is still supported for i686 32bit architecture.
The base line for 32bit cpu have uplifted to i686 cpu's, Wich means for user using i586 and below i386 cpu's may stick
with bookworm or bullseye releases.

[Stevo]

I have to think antiX will have customized GRUBs that support the older CPUs.

[dolphin_oracle]

As long as they have 32-bit repos we can build a 32-bit ISO...

Yea, just checked seems also any needed bootloader like GRUB stuff is still supported for i686 32bit architecture.
The base line for 32bit cpu have uplifted to i686 cpu's, Wich means for user using i586 and below i386 cpu's may stick
with bookworm or bullseye releases.

I think 686 is the baseline for buster and forward. at least the kernels.

[fehlix]

Found it where i686 was mentioned:
https://www.debian.org/releases/trixie/ ... s-now-i686

Debian's support for 32-bit PC (known as the Debian architecture i386) now no longer covers any i586 processor. The new minimum requirement is i686. This means that the i386 architecture now requires the "long NOP" (NOPL) instruction, while bullseye still supported some i586 processors without that instruction (e.g. the "AMD Geode").

If your machine is not compatible with this requirement, it is recommended that you stay with bullseye for the remainder of its support cycle.

Seems to be a work in progress, so maybe not all the details are correct, e.g. the mention of bullseye may mean bookworm.
PS: Actually that paragraph seems to be just a copy from the bookworm release notes.
bookworm i386 release-notes/

[jessejazza]

Ok thx for your contributions - we'll wait and see.