It is possible to get only Xfce4 in antiX?

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It is possible to get only Xfce4 in antiX?

#1 Post by keos »

Hello,

I have this small machine, 15GB, which I can't find a system to install because of its small capacity, someone recommended me to try with antiX, but I don't see how to download Xfce4 the desktop I need, I can't fine nothing about it on this site:

http://antixlinux.com/download/

I installed MXlinux but it is too big, just after the first update, without install apps ...:
Local Storage: total: 14.91 GiB used: 9.69 GiB (65.0%

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$ df -h
Filesystem      Size  Used Avail Use% Mounted on
udev            1.9G     0  1.9G   0% /dev
tmpfs           380M  2.7M  378M   1% /run
/dev/sda2        15G  9.7G  3.9G  72% /
efivarfs         64K   22K   38K  37% /sys/firmware/efi/efivars
tmpfs           5.0M   16K  5.0M   1% /run/lock
tmpfs           760M  8.0K  760M   1% /dev/shm
/dev/sda1       253M  274K  252M   1% /boot/efi
cgroup           12K     0   12K   0% /sys/fs/cgroup
tmpfs           380M  4.0K  380M   1% /run/user/108
tmpfs           380M  552K  380M   1% /run/user/1000
keos@mx:~
$ 
Thanks for any indication

Best regards

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[CODE]System:
  Kernel: 6.6.12-1-liquorix-amd64 [6.6-16~mx23ahs] arch: x86_64 bits: 64 compiler: gcc v: 12.2.0 parameters: audit=0
    intel_pstate=disable rcupdate.rcu_expedited=1 BOOT_IMAGE=/boot/vmlinuz-6.6.12-1-liquorix-amd64
    root=UUID=<filter> ro quiet splash
  Desktop: Xfce v: 4.18.1 tk: Gtk v: 3.24.36 info: xfce4-panel wm: xfwm v: 4.18.0 vt: 7
    dm: LightDM v: 1.26.0 Distro: MX-23.3_ahs_x64 Libretto January 21  2024 base: Debian GNU/Linux
    12 (bookworm)
Machine:
  Type: Laptop System: GOOGLE product: Peppy v: 1.0 serial: <superuser required> Chassis: type: 9
    serial: <superuser required>
  Mobo: GOOGLE model: Peppy v: 1.0 serial: <superuser required> UEFI: coreboot
    v: MrChromebox-4.17.2 date: 07/18/2022
Battery:
  ID-1: BAT0 charge: 32.7 Wh (100.0%) condition: 32.7/44.7 Wh (73.1%) volts: 12.7 min: 11.4
    model: SONYCor AP13J4K type: Li-ion serial: <filter> status: full cycles: 229
CPU:
  Info: model: Intel Celeron 2955U bits: 64 type: MCP arch: Haswell level: v2 built: 2013-15
    process: Intel 22nm family: 6 model-id: 0x45 (69) stepping: 1 microcode: 0x26
  Topology: cpus: 1x cores: 2 smt: <unsupported> cache: L1: 128 KiB desc: d-2x32 KiB; i-2x32 KiB
    L2: 512 KiB desc: 2x256 KiB L3: 2 MiB desc: 1x2 MiB
  Speed (MHz): avg: 799 high: 800 min/max: 800/1400 scaling: driver: acpi-cpufreq
    governor: ondemand cores: 1: 800 2: 798 bogomips: 5587
  Flags: ht lm nx pae sse sse2 sse3 sse4_1 sse4_2 ssse3 vmx
  Vulnerabilities:
  Type: gather_data_sampling status: Not affected
  Type: itlb_multihit status: KVM: VMX disabled
  Type: l1tf mitigation: PTE Inversion; VMX: conditional cache flushes, SMT disabled
  Type: mds mitigation: Clear CPU buffers; SMT disabled
  Type: meltdown mitigation: PTI
  Type: mmio_stale_data status: Unknown: No mitigations
  Type: retbleed status: Not affected
  Type: spec_rstack_overflow status: Not affected
  Type: spec_store_bypass mitigation: Speculative Store Bypass disabled via prctl
  Type: spectre_v1 mitigation: usercopy/swapgs barriers and __user pointer sanitization
  Type: spectre_v2 mitigation: Retpolines, IBPB: conditional, IBRS_FW, STIBP: disabled, RSB
    filling, PBRSB-eIBRS: Not affected
  Type: srbds mitigation: Microcode
  Type: tsx_async_abort status: Not affected
Graphics:
  Device-1: Intel Haswell-ULT Integrated Graphics driver: i915 v: kernel arch: Gen-7.5
    process: Intel 22nm built: 2013 ports: active: eDP-1 empty: HDMI-A-1 bus-ID: 00:02.0
    chip-ID: 8086:0a06 class-ID: 0300
  Device-2: Sunplus Innovation HD WebCam type: USB driver: uvcvideo bus-ID: 1-3:2
    chip-ID: 1bcf:2c67 class-ID: 0e02
  Display: x11 server: X.Org v: 1.21.1.7 compositor: xfwm v: 4.18.0 driver: X:
    loaded: modesetting unloaded: fbdev,vesa dri: crocus gpu: i915 display-ID: :0.0 screens: 1
  Screen-1: 0 s-res: 1366x768 s-dpi: 96 s-size: 361x203mm (14.21x7.99") s-diag: 414mm (16.31")
  Monitor-1: eDP-1 model: ChiMei InnoLux 0x1132 built: 2013 res: 1366x768 hz: 60 dpi: 136
    gamma: 1.2 size: 256x144mm (10.08x5.67") diag: 294mm (11.6") ratio: 16:9 modes: 1366x768
  API: OpenGL v: 4.6 Mesa 23.1.2-1~mx23ahs renderer: Mesa Intel HD Graphics (HSW GT1)
    direct-render: Yes
Audio:
  Device-1: Intel Haswell-ULT HD Audio driver: snd_hda_intel v: kernel bus-ID: 00:03.0
    chip-ID: 8086:0a0c class-ID: 0403
  Device-2: Intel 8 Series HD Audio driver: snd_hda_intel v: kernel bus-ID: 00:1b.0
    chip-ID: 8086:9c20 class-ID: 0403
  API: ALSA v: k6.6.12-1-liquorix-amd64 status: kernel-api tools: alsamixer,amixer
  Server-1: PipeWire v: 1.0.0 status: active with: 1: pipewire-pulse status: active
    2: wireplumber status: active 3: pipewire-alsa type: plugin 4: pw-jack type: plugin
    tools: pactl,pw-cat,pw-cli,wpctl
Network:
  Device-1: Qualcomm Atheros AR9462 Wireless Network Adapter vendor: Foxconn driver: ath9k
    v: kernel modules: wl pcie: gen: 1 speed: 2.5 GT/s lanes: 1 bus-ID: 01:00.0 chip-ID: 168c:0034
    class-ID: 0280
  IF: wlan0 state: up mac: <filter>
Bluetooth:
  Device-1: Foxconn / Hon Hai type: USB driver: btusb v: 0.8 bus-ID: 1-4:3 chip-ID: 0489:e056
    class-ID: e001
  Report: hciconfig ID: hci0 rfk-id: 1 state: up address: <filter> bt-v: 2.1 lmp-v: 4.0 sub-v: 1
    hci-v: 4.1 rev: 1102
  Info: acl-mtu: 1022:8 sco-mtu: 183:5 link-policy: rswitch hold sniff
    link-mode: peripheral accept service-classes: rendering, capturing, object transfer, audio,
    telephony
Drives:
  Local Storage: total: 14.91 GiB used: 9.69 GiB (65.0%)
  SMART Message: Unable to run smartctl. Root privileges required.
  ID-1: /dev/sda maj-min: 8:0 vendor: Kingston model: SNS4151S316G size: 14.91 GiB block-size:
    physical: 512 B logical: 512 B speed: 6.0 Gb/s type: SSD serial: <filter> rev: 01.1 scheme: GPT
Partition:
  ID-1: / raw-size: 14.66 GiB size: 14.33 GiB (97.74%) used: 9.69 GiB (67.6%) fs: ext4
    dev: /dev/sda2 maj-min: 8:2
  ID-2: /boot/efi raw-size: 256 MiB size: 252 MiB (98.46%) used: 274 KiB (0.1%) fs: vfat
    dev: /dev/sda1 maj-min: 8:1
Swap:
  Kernel: swappiness: 15 (default 60) cache-pressure: 100 (default)
  ID-1: swap-1 type: file size: 2 GiB used: 0 KiB (0.0%) priority: -2 file: /swap/swap
Sensors:
  System Temperatures: cpu: 40.0 C pch: 95.0 C mobo: N/A
  Fan Speeds (RPM): N/A
Repos:
  Packages: pm: dpkg pkgs: 2096 libs: 1048 tools: apt,apt-get,aptitude,nala,synaptic pm: rpm
    pkgs: 0
  No active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list
  Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian-stable-updates.list
    1: deb http://deb.debian.org/debian bookworm-updates main contrib non-free non-free-firmware
  Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian.list
    1: deb http://deb.debian.org/debian bookworm main contrib non-free non-free-firmware
    2: deb http://security.debian.org/debian-security bookworm-security main contrib non-free non-free-firmware
  Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/mx.list
    1: deb http://mirrors.rit.edu/mxlinux/mx-packages/mx/repo/ bookworm main non-free
    2: deb http://mirrors.rit.edu/mxlinux/mx-packages/mx/repo/ bookworm ahs
Info:
  Processes: 280 Uptime: 1h 33m wakeups: 10 Memory: 3.71 GiB used: 2.31 GiB (62.2%) Init: SysVinit
  v: 3.06 runlevel: 5 default: graphical tool: systemctl Compilers: gcc: 12.2.0 alt: 12
  Client: shell wrapper v: 5.2.15-release inxi: 3.3.26
Boot Mode: UEFI
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Acer Aspire A315-58
Intel Core i7-1165G7
Iris Xe Graphics
MX-23.2-Xfce4 - 4.18.2

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Re: It is possible to get only Xfce4 in antiX?

#2 Post by Eadwine Rose »

You want small, you can get antiX with fluxbox, icewm, and a few others.

I doubt @anticapitalista is going to make an Xfce antiX. So.. you will have to fiddle with that on your own to see if you can make that happen.
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Re: It is possible to get only Xfce4 in antiX?

#3 Post by dolphin_oracle »

if its available, its in antiX's package manager or in the packeinstaller application. antiX does not prebuild an xfce version.

no matter what you a run, 16gb isn't a lot. might be better off getting a big sd card and running off of that rather than the internal storage.

although even with that mx system, you've got almost 5gb free, and that includes a 2gb swapfile on partition. you've got room for quite a bit, if you avoid flatpaks anyway.
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Re: It is possible to get only Xfce4 in antiX?

#4 Post by fehlix »

keos wrote: Mon Aug 26, 2024 3:58 pm I have this small machine, 15GB, which I can't find a system to install because of its small capacity..
I installed MXlinux but it is too big, just after the first update, without install apps ...:
You could try, to install onto the internal drive, like you would install onto an USB-stick.
So to say an internal IiveUSB.

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Re: It is possible to get only Xfce4 in antiX?

#5 Post by siamhie »

Eadwine Rose wrote: Mon Aug 26, 2024 4:41 pm You want small, you can get antiX with fluxbox, icewm, and a few others.

I doubt @anticapitalista is going to make an Xfce antiX. So.. you will have to fiddle with that on your own to see if you can make that happen.

There was that thread from just three days ago where someone was asking for a KDE antiX install and anticapitalista said they only do window managers.
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#6 Post by siamhie »

I found 9 of them with a simple search.

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Re: It is possible to get only Xfce4 in antiX?

#7 Post by FullScale4Me »

There is the MX Linux 23.1 Minimal Xfce respin by dolphin_oracle.

When installed and updated, the / has 6.6 GB usage. That is with the Virtual Box extensions, Firefox (207 mb), Bluetooth admin applet & 2 Bluetooth utilities (8,634 KB).
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Re: It is possible to get only Xfce4 in antiX?

#8 Post by dolphin_oracle »

FullScale4Me wrote: Mon Aug 26, 2024 9:18 pm There is the MX Linux 23.1 Minimal Xfce respin by dolphin_oracle.

When installed and updated, the / has 6.6 GB usage. That is with the Virtual Box extensions, Firefox (207 mb), Bluetooth admin applet & 2 Bluetooth utilities (8,634 KB).
for the record, the minimal spin is by adrian, not me.
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Re: It is possible to get only Xfce4 in antiX?

#9 Post by siamhie »

keos wrote: Mon Aug 26, 2024 3:58 pm

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Drives:
  Local Storage: total: 14.91 GiB used: 9.69 GiB (65.0%)
  SMART Message: Unable to run smartctl. Root privileges required.
  ID-1: /dev/sda maj-min: 8:0 vendor: Kingston model: SNS4151S316G size: 14.91 GiB block-size:
    physical: 512 B logical: 512 B speed: 6.0 Gb/s type: SSD serial: <filter> rev: 01.1 scheme: GPT

You might want to see if you can upgrade that Kingston SATA III SSD M.2 16GB drive.


Here is antiX 23.1 with XFCE installed in a vm.
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Re: It is possible to get only Xfce4 in antiX?

#10 Post by keos »

Without Xfce4, :hug: I'm disabled, handicap ... :confused:

I had no other choice but to continue dealing with MXLinux, with which, after installing the most basic things I need, and removing, as far as I know, some things ... and cleaning the system, now it looks like this:

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keos@mx:~
$ df -h
Filesystem      Size  Used Avail Use% Mounted on
udev            1.8G     0  1.8G   0% /dev
tmpfs           380M  2.7M  378M   1% /run
/dev/sda2        15G   11G  3.4G  76% /
efivarfs         64K   24K   36K  41% /sys/firmware/efi/efivars
tmpfs           5.0M   16K  5.0M   1% /run/lock
tmpfs           760M  8.0K  760M   1% /dev/shm
/dev/sda1       253M  274K  252M   1% /boot/efi
cgroup           12K     0   12K   0% /sys/fs/cgroup
tmpfs           380M  4.0K  380M   1% /run/user/108
tmpfs           380M   12K  380M   1% /run/user/1000
keos@mx:~
$ 
Maybe I will be able to continue bringing out some more things ... :alien:
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