Why do GNOME apps take forever to open in KDE?

[carturo222]

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System:
  Kernel: 6.9.9-1-liquorix-amd64 [6.9-8~mx23ahs] arch: x86_64 bits: 64 compiler: gcc v: 12.2.0 parameters: audit=0
    intel_pstate=disable BOOT_IMAGE=/boot/vmlinuz-6.9.9-1-liquorix-amd64 root=UUID=<filter> ro
    quiet splash
  Desktop: KDE Plasma v: 5.27.5 tk: Qt v: 5.15.8 wm: kwin_x11 vt: 7 dm: SDDM
    Distro: MX-23.3_KDE_x64 Libretto May 19 2024 base: Debian GNU/Linux 12 (bookworm)
Machine:
  Type: Laptop System: HP product: HP Laptop 14-cf2xxx v: Type1ProductConfigId
    serial: <superuser required> Chassis: type: 10 serial: <superuser required>
  Mobo: HP model: 8658 v: 62.19 serial: <superuser required> UEFI: Insyde v: F.69
    date: 03/31/2022
Battery:
  ID-1: BAT0 charge: 29.0 Wh (85.5%) condition: 33.9/33.9 Wh (100.0%) volts: 12.0 min: 11.3
    model: Hewlett-Packard Primary type: Li-ion serial: <filter> status: discharging
CPU:
  Info: model: Intel Core i3-10110U bits: 64 type: MT MCP arch: Comet/Whiskey Lake note: check
    gen: core 10 level: v3 note: check built: 2018 process: Intel 14nm family: 6 model-id: 0x8E (142)
    stepping: 0xC (12) microcode: 0xFA
  Topology: cpus: 1x cores: 2 tpc: 2 threads: 4 smt: enabled cache: L1: 128 KiB
    desc: d-2x32 KiB; i-2x32 KiB L2: 512 KiB desc: 2x256 KiB L3: 4 MiB desc: 1x4 MiB
  Speed (MHz): avg: 1098 high: 1228 min/max: 400/2601 boost: enabled scaling:
    driver: acpi-cpufreq governor: ondemand cores: 1: 937 2: 1164 3: 1228 4: 1063 bogomips: 20799
  Flags: avx avx2 ht lm nx pae sse sse2 sse3 sse4_1 sse4_2 ssse3 vmx
  Vulnerabilities:
  Type: gather_data_sampling mitigation: Microcode
  Type: itlb_multihit status: KVM: VMX disabled
  Type: l1tf status: Not affected
  Type: mds status: Not affected
  Type: meltdown status: Not affected
  Type: mmio_stale_data mitigation: Clear CPU buffers; SMT vulnerable
  Type: reg_file_data_sampling status: Not affected
  Type: retbleed mitigation: Enhanced IBRS
  Type: spec_rstack_overflow status: Not affected
  Type: spec_store_bypass mitigation: Speculative Store Bypass disabled via prctl
  Type: spectre_v1 mitigation: usercopy/swapgs barriers and __user pointer sanitization
  Type: spectre_v2 mitigation: Enhanced / Automatic IBRS; IBPB: conditional; RSB filling;
    PBRSB-eIBRS: SW sequence; BHI: SW loop, KVM: SW loop
  Type: srbds mitigation: Microcode
  Type: tsx_async_abort status: Not affected
Graphics:
  Device-1: Intel CometLake-U GT2 [UHD Graphics] vendor: Hewlett-Packard driver: i915 v: kernel
    arch: Gen-9.5 process: Intel 14nm built: 2016-20 ports: active: eDP-1 empty: HDMI-A-1
    bus-ID: 00:02.0 chip-ID: 8086:9b41 class-ID: 0300
  Device-2: Chicony HP TrueVision HD Camera type: USB driver: uvcvideo bus-ID: 1-6:2
    chip-ID: 04f2:b723 class-ID: 0e02
  Display: x11 server: X.Org v: 1.21.1.7 with: Xwayland v: 22.1.9 compositor: kwin_x11 driver: X:
    loaded: modesetting unloaded: fbdev,vesa dri: iris gpu: i915 display-ID: :0 screens: 1
  Screen-1: 0 s-res: 1920x1080 s-dpi: 96 s-size: 508x285mm (20.00x11.22") s-diag: 582mm (22.93")
  Monitor-1: eDP-1 model: ChiMei InnoLux 0x14ff built: 2018 res: 1920x1080 hz: 60 dpi: 158
    gamma: 1.2 size: 309x173mm (12.17x6.81") diag: 354mm (13.9") ratio: 16:9 modes: 1920x1080
  API: OpenGL v: 4.6 Mesa 23.1.2-1~mx23ahs renderer: Mesa Intel UHD Graphics (CML GT2)
    direct-render: Yes
Audio:
  Device-1: Intel Comet Lake PCH-LP cAVS vendor: Hewlett-Packard driver: snd_hda_intel v: kernel
    alternate: snd_soc_avs,snd_sof_pci_intel_cnl bus-ID: 00:1f.3 chip-ID: 8086:02c8 class-ID: 0403
  API: ALSA v: k6.9.9-1-liquorix-amd64 status: kernel-api tools: alsamixer,amixer
  Server-1: PipeWire v: 1.0.0 status: active with: 1: pipewire-pulse status: active
    2: wireplumber status: active 3: pipewire-alsa type: plugin 4: pw-jack type: plugin
    tools: pactl,pw-cat,pw-cli,wpctl
Network:
  Device-1: Realtek RTL8111/8168/8411 PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet vendor: Hewlett-Packard
    driver: r8169 v: kernel pcie: speed: Unknown lanes: 63 link-max: gen: 6 speed: 64 GT/s port: 4000
    bus-ID: 01:00.0 chip-ID: 10ec:8168 class-ID: 0200
  IF: eth0 state: down mac: <filter>
  Device-2: Realtek RTL8821CE 802.11ac PCIe Wireless Network Adapter vendor: Hewlett-Packard
    driver: rtw_8821ce v: N/A modules: rtw88_8821ce,wl,rtl8821ce pcie: gen: 1 speed: 2.5 GT/s
    lanes: 1 port: 3000 bus-ID: 02:00.0 chip-ID: 10ec:c821 class-ID: 0280
  IF: wlan0 state: up mac: <filter>
  IF-ID-1: lxcbr0 state: down mac: <filter>
Bluetooth:
  Device-1: Realtek Bluetooth 4.2 Adapter type: USB driver: btusb v: 0.8 bus-ID: 1-10:3
    chip-ID: 0bda:b00a class-ID: e001 serial: <filter>
  Report: hciconfig ID: hci0 rfk-id: 1 state: down bt-service: N/A rfk-block: hardware: no
    software: yes address: <filter>
  Info: acl-mtu: 1021:8 sco-mtu: 255:12 link-policy: rswitch hold sniff park
    link-mode: peripheral accept
RAID:
  Hardware-1: Intel 82801 Mobile SATA Controller [RAID mode] driver: ahci v: 3.0 port: 5060
    bus-ID: 00:17.0 chip-ID: 8086:282a rev: class-ID: 0104
Drives:
  Local Storage: total: 238.47 GiB used: 166.72 GiB (69.9%)
  SMART Message: Unable to run smartctl. Root privileges required.
  ID-1: /dev/nvme0n1 maj-min: 259:0 vendor: Western Digital model: PC SN530 SDBPNPZ-256G-1006
    size: 238.47 GiB block-size: physical: 512 B logical: 512 B speed: 31.6 Gb/s lanes: 4 type: SSD
    serial: <filter> rev: HPS2 temp: 38.9 C scheme: GPT
Partition:
  ID-1: / raw-size: 238.22 GiB size: 233.43 GiB (97.99%) used: 166.72 GiB (71.4%) fs: ext4
    dev: /dev/nvme0n1p2 maj-min: 259:2
  ID-2: /boot/efi raw-size: 256 MiB size: 252 MiB (98.46%) used: 274 KiB (0.1%) fs: vfat
    dev: /dev/nvme0n1p1 maj-min: 259:1
Swap:
  Kernel: swappiness: 15 (default 60) cache-pressure: 100 (default)
  ID-1: swap-1 type: file size: 3 GiB used: 385 MiB (12.5%) priority: -2 file: /swap/swap
Sensors:
  System Temperatures: cpu: 60.0 C pch: 50.0 C mobo: N/A
  Fan Speeds (RPM): N/A
Repos:
  Packages: 3602 pm: dpkg pkgs: 3554 libs: 1703 tools: apt,apt-get,aptitude,nala,synaptic pm: rpm
    pkgs: 0 pm: flatpak pkgs: 48
  No active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list
  Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian-stable-updates.list
    1: deb http://deb.debian.org/debian bookworm-updates main contrib non-free non-free-firmware
  Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian.list
    1: deb http://deb.debian.org/debian bookworm main contrib non-free non-free-firmware
    2: deb http://security.debian.org/debian-security bookworm-security main contrib non-free non-free-firmware
  Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/megasync.list
    1: deb [signed-by=/usr/share/keyrings/meganz-archive-keyring.gpg] https://mega.nz/linux/repo/Debian_12/ ./
  Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/mx.list
    1: deb http://mirror.umd.edu/mxlinux/mx/repo/ bookworm main non-free
    2: deb http://mirror.umd.edu/mxlinux/mx/repo/ bookworm ahs
  Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/rememberthemilk.list
    1: deb https://www.rememberthemilk.com/download/linux/debian/ jessie main
  Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/slack.list
    1: deb https://packagecloud.io/slacktechnologies/slack/debian/ jessie main
  Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/vivaldi.list
    1: deb [arch=amd64] https://repo.vivaldi.com/stable/deb/ stable main
  Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/waydroid.list
    1: deb [signed-by=/usr/share/keyrings/waydroid.gpg] https://repo.waydro.id/ bookworm main
Info:
  Processes: 332 Uptime: 3h 34m wakeups: 9725 Memory: 7.47 GiB used: 4.29 GiB (57.4%)
  Init: SysVinit v: 3.06 runlevel: 5 default: graphical tool: systemctl Compilers: gcc: 12.2.0
  alt: 12 Client: shell wrapper v: 5.2.15-release inxi: 3.3.26
Boot Mode: UEFI

I have GNOME Maps and MuseScore Studio installed, which were designed for GNOME, but the desktop I prefer to use is KDE. Every time, I have to try to open these apps three times before they'll actually open. Is there anything that can be done about that?

[CharlesV]

Maps takes approx 2 seconds to open on my machine in a VM, no issues.

I would suggest trying:

- opening in a terminal and see if there are error messages

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gapplication launch org.gnome.Maps %U

Also if you have preferences, save them and then uninstall, clear cache and then reinstall it and see if that helps.

[siamhie]

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CPU:
  Info: model: Intel Core i3-10110U bits: 64 type: MT MCP arch: Comet/Whiskey Lake note: check
    gen: core 10 level: v3 note: check built: 2018 process: Intel 14nm family: 6 model-id: 0x8E (142)
    stepping: 0xC (12) microcode: 0xFA
  Topology: cpus: 1x cores: 2 tpc: 2 threads: 4 smt: enabled cache: L1: 128 KiB
    desc: d-2x32 KiB; i-2x32 KiB L2: 512 KiB desc: 2x256 KiB L3: 4 MiB desc: 1x4 MiB
  Speed (MHz): avg: 1098 high: 1228 min/max: 400/2601 boost: enabled scaling:
    driver: acpi-cpufreq governor: ondemand cores: 1: 937 2: 1164 3: 1228 4: 1063 bogomips: 20799

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Memory: 7.47 GiB used: 4.29 GiB (57.4%)

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Swap:
  Kernel: swappiness: 15 (default 60) cache-pressure: 100 (default)
  ID-1: swap-1 type: file size: 3 GiB used: 385 MiB (12.5%) priority: -2 file: /swap/swap

I have GNOME Maps and MuseScore Studio installed, which were designed for GNOME, but the desktop I prefer to use is KDE. Every time, I have to try to open these apps three times before they'll actually open. Is there anything that can be done about that?

How long are we talking?
You're running a dual core CPU and have used 57% of your RAM plus 13% of your swap.

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Partition:
  ID-1: / raw-size: 238.22 GiB size: 233.43 GiB (97.99%) used: 166.72 GiB (71.4%) fs: ext4
    dev: /dev/nvme0n1p2 maj-min: 259:2

Also noticed you have used 70% of your disk space.

[siamhie]

To give a comparison, Gnome Maps take 3 seconds to open on my system.

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System:
  Kernel: 6.1.0-23-amd64 [6.1.99-1] arch: x86_64 bits: 64 compiler: gcc v: 12.2.0
    parameters: BOOT_IMAGE=/boot/vmlinuz-6.1.0-23-amd64 root=UUID=<filter> ro quiet splash
    init=/lib/systemd/systemd
  Desktop: KDE Plasma v: 5.27.5 wm: kwin_wayland vt: 2 dm: SDDM Distro: MX-23.3_KDE_x64 Libretto
    May 19 2024 base: Debian GNU/Linux 12 (bookworm)
Machine:
  Type: Desktop Mobo: Micro-Star model: B550-A PRO (MS-7C56) v: 2.0 serial: <superuser required>
    UEFI: American Megatrends LLC. v: A.F0 date: 10/11/2023
CPU:
  Info: model: AMD Ryzen 9 5950X bits: 64 type: MT MCP arch: Zen 3+ gen: 4 level: v3 note: check
    built: 2022 process: TSMC n6 (7nm) family: 0x19 (25) model-id: 0x21 (33) stepping: 2
    microcode: 0xA20120E
  Topology: cpus: 1x cores: 16 tpc: 2 threads: 32 smt: enabled cache: L1: 1024 KiB desc: d-16x32
    KiB; i-16x32 KiB L2: 8 MiB desc: 16x512 KiB L3: 64 MiB desc: 2x32 MiB
  Speed (MHz): avg: 2199 high: 2203 min/max: 2200/5083 boost: disabled scaling:
    driver: acpi-cpufreq governor: ondemand cores: 1: 2199 2: 2200 3: 2200 4: 2199 5: 2203 6: 2199
    7: 2200 8: 2200 9: 2200 10: 2200 11: 2200 12: 2200 13: 2200 14: 2200 15: 2200 16: 2200 17: 2200
    18: 2200 19: 2200 20: 2200 21: 2200 22: 2200 23: 2197 24: 2199 25: 2200 26: 2200 27: 2200
    28: 2200 29: 2200 30: 2200 31: 2200 32: 2200 bogomips: 217612
  Flags: avx avx2 ht lm nx pae sse sse2 sse3 sse4_1 sse4_2 sse4a ssse3 svm
  Vulnerabilities:
  Type: gather_data_sampling status: Not affected
  Type: itlb_multihit status: Not affected
  Type: l1tf status: Not affected
  Type: mds status: Not affected
  Type: meltdown status: Not affected
  Type: mmio_stale_data status: Not affected
  Type: reg_file_data_sampling status: Not affected
  Type: retbleed status: Not affected
  Type: spec_rstack_overflow mitigation: safe RET
  Type: spec_store_bypass mitigation: Speculative Store Bypass disabled via prctl
  Type: spectre_v1 mitigation: usercopy/swapgs barriers and __user pointer sanitization
  Type: spectre_v2 mitigation: Retpolines; IBPB: conditional; IBRS_FW; STIBP: always-on; RSB
    filling; PBRSB-eIBRS: Not affected; BHI: Not affected
  Type: srbds status: Not affected
  Type: tsx_async_abort status: Not affected
Graphics:
  Device-1: AMD Navi 22 [Radeon RX 6700/6700 XT/6750 XT / 6800M/6850M XT] vendor: Tul / PowerColor
    driver: amdgpu v: kernel arch: RDNA-2 code: Navi-2x process: TSMC n7 (7nm) built: 2020-22 pcie:
    gen: 4 speed: 16 GT/s lanes: 16 ports: active: DP-3 empty: DP-1,DP-2,HDMI-A-1 bus-ID: 2d:00.0
    chip-ID: 1002:73df class-ID: 0300
  Display: wayland server: X.org v: 1.21.1.7 with: Xwayland v: 22.1.9 compositor: kwin_wayland
    driver: X: loaded: amdgpu unloaded: fbdev,modesetting,radeon,vesa dri: radeonsi gpu: amdgpu
    display-ID: 0
  Monitor-1: DP-3 res: 2560x1440 size: N/A modes: N/A
  API: OpenGL v: 4.6 Mesa 23.1.2-1~mx23ahs renderer: AMD Radeon RX 6700 XT (navi22 LLVM 15.0.6
    DRM 3.49 6.1.0-23-amd64) direct-render: Yes
Audio:
  Device-1: AMD Navi 21/23 HDMI/DP Audio driver: snd_hda_intel v: kernel pcie: gen: 4
    speed: 16 GT/s lanes: 16 bus-ID: 2d:00.1 chip-ID: 1002:ab28 class-ID: 0403
  Device-2: AMD Starship/Matisse HD Audio vendor: Micro-Star MSI driver: snd_hda_intel v: kernel
    pcie: gen: 4 speed: 16 GT/s lanes: 16 bus-ID: 2f:00.4 chip-ID: 1022:1487 class-ID: 0403
  API: ALSA v: k6.1.0-23-amd64 status: kernel-api tools: alsamixer,amixer
  Server-1: PipeWire v: 1.0.0 status: active with: 1: pipewire-pulse status: active
    2: wireplumber status: active 3: pipewire-alsa type: plugin 4: pw-jack type: plugin
    tools: pactl,pw-cat,pw-cli,wpctl
Network:
  Device-1: Intel Wi-Fi 6 AX210/AX211/AX411 160MHz driver: iwlwifi v: kernel modules: wl pcie:
    gen: 2 speed: 5 GT/s lanes: 1 bus-ID: 05:00.0 chip-ID: 8086:2725 class-ID: 0280
  IF: wlan0 state: up mac: <filter>
  Device-2: Realtek RTL8111/8168/8411 PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet vendor: Micro-Star MSI
    driver: r8169 v: kernel pcie: gen: 1 speed: 2.5 GT/s lanes: 1 port: f000 bus-ID: 2a:00.0
    chip-ID: 10ec:8168 class-ID: 0200
  IF: eth0 state: down mac: <filter>
Bluetooth:
  Device-1: Intel AX210 Bluetooth type: USB driver: btusb v: 0.8 bus-ID: 1-2.3:4 chip-ID: 8087:0032
    class-ID: e001
  Report: hciconfig ID: hci0 rfk-id: 1 state: down bt-service: N/A rfk-block: hardware: no
    software: no address: <filter>
  Info: acl-mtu: 1021:4 sco-mtu: 96:6 link-policy: rswitch sniff link-mode: peripheral accept
Drives:
  Local Storage: total: 8.64 TiB used: 11 GiB (0.1%)
  SMART Message: Unable to run smartctl. Root privileges required.
  ID-1: /dev/nvme0n1 maj-min: 259:3 vendor: Western Digital model: WDS500G1X0E-00AFY0
    size: 465.76 GiB block-size: physical: 512 B logical: 512 B speed: 63.2 Gb/s lanes: 4 type: SSD
    serial: <filter> rev: 613000WD temp: 42.9 C scheme: GPT
  ID-2: /dev/nvme1n1 maj-min: 259:0 vendor: Western Digital model: WDS500G3XHC-00SJG0
    size: 465.76 GiB block-size: physical: 512 B logical: 512 B speed: 31.6 Gb/s lanes: 4 type: SSD
    serial: <filter> rev: 102000WD temp: 39.9 C scheme: GPT
  ID-3: /dev/sda maj-min: 8:0 vendor: SanDisk model: ST8000DM004-2CX188 size: 7.28 TiB
    block-size: physical: 4096 B logical: 512 B speed: 6.0 Gb/s type: HDD rpm: 5425 serial: <filter>
    rev: 0001 scheme: GPT
  ID-4: /dev/sdb maj-min: 8:16 vendor: Samsung model: SSD 870 EVO 500GB size: 465.76 GiB
    block-size: physical: 512 B logical: 512 B speed: 6.0 Gb/s type: SSD serial: <filter> rev: 1B6Q
    scheme: GPT
Partition:
  ID-1: / raw-size: 232.88 GiB size: 228.17 GiB (97.98%) used: 10.98 GiB (4.8%) fs: ext4
    dev: /dev/nvme1n1p2 maj-min: 259:2
  ID-2: /boot/efi raw-size: 128 MiB size: 127.7 MiB (99.79%) used: 18.4 MiB (14.4%) fs: vfat
    dev: /dev/nvme0n1p1 maj-min: 259:4
Swap:
  Kernel: swappiness: 15 (default 60) cache-pressure: 100 (default)
  ID-1: swap-1 type: partition size: 64 GiB used: 0 KiB (0.0%) priority: -2 dev: /dev/sdb2
    maj-min: 8:18
Sensors:
  System Temperatures: cpu: 36.6 C mobo: N/A gpu: amdgpu temp: 49.0 C mem: 50.0 C
  Fan Speeds (RPM): N/A gpu: amdgpu fan: 890
Repos:
  Packages: pm: dpkg pkgs: 2531 libs: 1357 tools: apt,apt-get,aptitude,nala pm: rpm pkgs: 0
    pm: flatpak pkgs: 0
  No active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list
  Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian-stable-updates.list
    1: deb http://deb.debian.org/debian bookworm-updates main contrib non-free non-free-firmware
  Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian.list
    1: deb http://deb.debian.org/debian bookworm main contrib non-free non-free-firmware
    2: deb http://security.debian.org/debian-security bookworm-security main contrib non-free non-free-firmware
  Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/mx.list
    1: deb http://la.mxrepo.com/mx/repo/ bookworm main non-free
    2: deb http://la.mxrepo.com/mx/repo/ bookworm ahs
Info:
  Processes: 502 Uptime: 2m wakeups: 0 Memory: 31.26 GiB used: 2.12 GiB (6.8%) Init: systemd v: 252
  target: graphical (5) default: graphical tool: systemctl Compilers: gcc: 12.2.0 alt: 12
  Client: shell wrapper v: 5.2.15-release inxi: 3.3.26
Boot Mode: UEFI

[carturo222]

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gapplication launch org.gnome.Maps %U

It didn't open with the command. It waited, then showed a message saying timeout expired.

Also, I forgot to mention this error message shows up during the initial attempts:

"Plasma Workspace: Did not receive a reply. Possible causes include: the remote application did not send a reply, the message bus security policy blocked the reply, the reply timeout expired, or the network connection was broken."

[carturo222]

How long are we talking?

About 3 minutes.

Also noticed you have used 70% of your disk space.

I have several movies.

[markol]

If you can't make Gnome Maps work, I suggest you try Marble Maps (KDE) or Google Earth

[siamhie]

If you can't make Gnome Maps work, I suggest you try Marble Maps (KDE) or Google Earth

+1

I was also going to suggest MX-23.3 XFCE. It will probably run snappier on that dual core CPU.

[carturo222]

If you can't make Gnome Maps work, I suggest you try Marble Maps (KDE) or Google Earth

Strangely, Marble shows me atrocious image resolution no matter how much I tweak the settings. GNOME Maps may be an annoyance to open, but it has perfect image quality.

[Stevo]

Maybe Organic Maps for Linux? https://flathub.org/apps/app.organicmaps.desktop