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Recommend a printer? Inkjet, cheap, cheap ink
Posted: Fri Jul 12, 2024 8:42 pm
by jj 5117
Looking them up online is a pain, trying to see if they'll run on linux, another pain, making sure it has USB connection, another pain.
I've got the list of Gutenprint covered printers open, but I don't know what companies might provide linux drivers.
A printer/scanner/copier would also be OK.
I'm running this:
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System:
Kernel: 6.9.8-1-liquorix-amd64 [6.9-7~mx23ahs] arch: x86_64 bits: 64 compiler: gcc v: 12.2.0 parameters: audit=0
intel_pstate=disable BOOT_IMAGE=/vmlinuz-6.9.8-1-liquorix-amd64 root=UUID=<filter> ro nosplash
Desktop: Xfce v: 4.18.1 tk: Gtk v: 3.24.36 info: xfce4-panel wm: xfwm v: 4.18.0 vt: 7
dm: LightDM v: 1.26.0 Distro: MX-23.3_ahs_x64 Libretto October 15 2023 base: Debian GNU/Linux
12 (bookworm)
Thank you!
Re: Recommend a printer? Inkjet, cheap, cheap ink
Posted: Fri Jul 12, 2024 8:55 pm
by j2mcgreg
You should be fine with any HP inkjet.
There's really no such thing as cheap inkjet ink.
If you really want to keep your printing costs down, you can't beat a monochrome laser.
Re: Recommend a printer? Inkjet, cheap, cheap ink
Posted: Fri Jul 12, 2024 9:01 pm
by gimcrack
In the long run a laser printer is cheaper, because the toner will last you up to 3 years before you have to buy a new toner. And toner is much cheaper than ink for a inkjet.
HP is usually the best company to deal with. Even Brother is good. I found a Samsung laser printer I really like. It's not color, but I don't do many color prints. If I ever need color prints I'll just go to my local drug store that has a color printer. Plus Black toner is much cheaper than color ink.
My is a printer/ scanner/ copier easy to download their Linux drivers off their site and install them. Samsung Xpress M2070FM Not sure they still have this model. HP and Brother are good like I said.
Re: Recommend a printer? Inkjet, cheap, cheap ink
Posted: Fri Jul 12, 2024 9:03 pm
by CharlesV
I have had very good luck with the Epson EcoTanks. The ET-2800 is a $200 printer that scans and is pretty darn good. (And ink is WAY cheaper for most people. )
But if you really want a quality print, with a less expensive cost.. then I agree a laser is the way to go.
Re: Recommend a printer? Inkjet, cheap, cheap ink
Posted: Fri Jul 12, 2024 9:09 pm
by jj 5117
I did a little more searching.
I'm looking at a Brother MFC-J1010DW. An "all in one". It looks like it will work. .... Will it?
Re: Recommend a printer? Inkjet, cheap, cheap ink
Posted: Fri Jul 12, 2024 9:11 pm
by jj 5117
Heh heh.
I didn't see your guys responses before my last entry.
Thank you guys!
Re: Recommend a printer? Inkjet, cheap, cheap ink
Posted: Fri Jul 12, 2024 9:43 pm
by jj 5117
I went for it. $69.99 new on that jungle-sounding place.
Thanks guys, you made it easier.
My use case is almost never printing. Every year at tax time I replace my dried-out ink. That's a Canon IP2600 I always went to Windows 7 for printing. Canon and MS don't provide the drivers for 10 or 11, and Canon doesn't post its old drivers for the "retired" equipment any more. - - And I couldn't find a cure for the ip2600 in Linux.
If I start to get print-happy, I will definitely look into laser jets.
Thanks again.
Re: Recommend a printer? Inkjet, cheap, cheap ink [Solved]
Posted: Fri Jul 12, 2024 9:46 pm
by kmathern
jj 5117 wrote: ↑Fri Jul 12, 2024 9:09 pm
I did a little more searching.
I'm looking at a Brother MFC-J1010DW. An "all in one". It looks like it will work. .... Will it?
My HL-L2320D Brother laser printer works ootb in MX-23.3.
The
printer-driver-brlaser driver package is installed by default on MX-23.3 and the HL-L2320D is one of the printers that it supports.
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$ apt-cache show printer-driver-brlaser
Package: printer-driver-brlaser
Source: brlaser
Version: 6-3
Installed-Size: 75
Maintainer: Debian Printing Team <debian-printing@lists.debian.org>
Architecture: amd64
Depends: libc6 (>= 2.14), libcups2 (>= 2.3~b6), libgcc-s1 (>= 3.0), libstdc++6 (>= 5.2)
Description-en: printer driver for (some) Brother laser printers
CUPS filter driver supporting (some) Brother laser printer.
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This driver has been reported to work with these printers:
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* Brother DCP-1510
* Brother DCP-1602
* Brother DCP-7030
* Brother DCP-7040
* Brother DCP-7055
* Brother DCP-7055W
* Brother DCP-7060D
* Brother DCP-7065DN
* Brother DCP-7080
* Brother DCP-L2500D
* Brother DCP-L2540DW
* Brother HL-1110 series
* Brother HL-1200 series
* Brother HL-L2300D series
* Brother HL-L2320D series
* Brother HL-L2340D series
* Brother HL-L2360D series
* Brother MFC-1910W
* Brother MFC-7240
* Brother MFC-7360N
* Brother MFC-7365DN
* Brother MFC-7840W
* Brother MFC-L2710DW
* Lenovo M7605D
This package contains the CUPS filter driver for the supported laser printers.
Description-md5: a758727f5f03cd50a9fe63da99d08722
Homepage: https://github.com/pdewacht/brlaser
Section: text
Priority: optional
Filename: pool/main/b/brlaser/printer-driver-brlaser_6-3_amd64.deb
Size: 21640
MD5sum: bf9834d83759cbdd770da09d0b461513
SHA256: de9870cad11c4d50616ede13c672ee3402860c330fda92e3d8bc2270fb4813e9
MFC-J1010DW isn't listed as one supported by the printer-driver-brlaser driver. For the MFC-J1010DW you might try fehlix's Brother-Printer-Installer-Helper Script here
viewtopic.php?p=447475#p447475, it's worked well for me in the past.
Re: Recommend a printer? Inkjet, cheap, cheap ink
Posted: Fri Jul 12, 2024 9:47 pm
by jj 5117
That IP2600 is like, 21 years old now. It was my first replacement for my tractor dot matrix. Ha!
Re: Recommend a printer? Inkjet, cheap, cheap ink
Posted: Fri Jul 12, 2024 10:01 pm
by jj 5117
Thanks, @kmathern.
That will be very helpful if it does not plug and play when it gets here, in a few days.
Thank you all.
Re: Recommend a printer? Inkjet, cheap, cheap ink
Posted: Thu Aug 15, 2024 9:58 pm
by jj 5117
UPDATE:
Neither of my Linux varieties found the driver, but Brother had a bash installer for Debian.
Everything works great with MX. Printer and scanner.
Thanks.
FYI, the install script burped on a couple of things, and warned about AppArmor, as follows in this part of the echo:
dpkg -x mfcj1010dwpdrv-3.5.0-1.i386.deb /
dpkg-deb: building package 'mfcj1010dwpdrv' in 'mfcj1010dwpdrv-3.5.0-1a.i386.deb'.
dpkg -b ./brother_driver_packdir mfcj1010dwpdrv-3.5.0-1a.i386.deb
dpkg -i --force-all mfcj1010dwpdrv-3.5.0-1a.i386.deb
Selecting previously unselected package mfcj1010dwpdrv:i386.
(Reading database ... 437398 files and directories currently installed.)
Preparing to unpack mfcj1010dwpdrv-3.5.0-1a.i386.deb ...
Unpacking mfcj1010dwpdrv:i386 (3.5.0-1) ...
Setting up mfcj1010dwpdrv:i386 (3.5.0-1) ...
mkdir: cannot create directory ‘/var/spool/lpd/mfcj1010dw’: No such file or directory
chown: cannot access '/var/spool/lpd/mfcj1010dw': No such file or directory
chgrp: cannot access '/var/spool/lpd/mfcj1010dw': No such file or directory
chmod: cannot access '/var/spool/lpd/mfcj1010dw': No such file or directory
Restarting Common Unix Printing System: cupsd.
lpadmin -p MFCJ1010DW -E -v usb://Brother/MFC-J1010DW?serial=XXXXXXXXX -P /usr/share/cups/model/Brother/brother_mfcj1010dw_printer_en.ppd
lpadmin: Printer drivers are deprecated and will stop working in a future version of CUPS.
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The security level of AppArmor has been lowered. (aa-complain cups)
aa-complain cupsd
Setting /usr/sbin/cupsd to complain mode.
ERROR: Cache read/write disabled: interface file missing. (Kernel needs AppArmor 2.4 compatibility patch.)
Warning: unable to find a suitable fs in /proc/mounts, is it mounted?
Use --subdomainfs to override.
Will you specify the Device URI? [Y/n] ->n
Test Print? [y/N] ->n
You are going to install following packages.
brscan5-1.3.5-0.amd64.deb
Re: Recommend a printer? Inkjet, cheap, cheap ink
Posted: Fri Aug 16, 2024 3:28 am
by Eadwine Rose
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Re: Recommend a printer? Inkjet, cheap, cheap ink
Posted: Sat Aug 24, 2024 2:41 pm
by nosoynadie
Hi
I have always used hp and been satisfied.
It is one of the brands that cares the most about us Linux users.
https://developers.hp.com/hp-linux-imag ... ices/index
it's my opinion
Re: Recommend a printer? Inkjet, cheap, cheap ink
Posted: Sat Aug 24, 2024 3:03 pm
by Alby
Hp envy 6000 series , wireless recommended but usb if needed also .. then MX tools , package installer .. HP Printing Install ... eezy .. way to go bud
Re: Recommend a printer? Inkjet, cheap, cheap ink
Posted: Sat Aug 24, 2024 4:13 pm
by MadMax
jj 5117 wrote: ↑Fri Jul 12, 2024 9:43 pm
My use case is almost never printing. Every year at tax time I replace my dried-out ink.
Even more reason NOT to opt for an inkjet printer... You named the reason there yourself. Laserjets don't dry out even if you print only once a year.
Just saying.
Re: Recommend a printer? Inkjet, cheap, cheap ink
Posted: Sat Aug 31, 2024 5:35 pm
by jj 5117
MadMax wrote: ↑Sat Aug 24, 2024 4:13 pm
You named the reason
I was aware of that.
MadMax wrote: ↑Sat Aug 24, 2024 4:13 pm
Laserjets don't dry out
Or rather, they work way better when they are dried out?
Thanks.
Re: Recommend a printer? Inkjet, cheap, cheap ink
Posted: Sat Aug 31, 2024 10:45 pm
by figueroa
@jj 5117
No, LaserJet's don't use ink; they are laser printers, use toner, and don't ever dry out.
Re: Recommend a printer? Inkjet, cheap, cheap ink
Posted: Sun Sep 01, 2024 5:24 am
by MadMax
I that's the joke since toner is a dry powder
Re: Recommend a printer? Inkjet, cheap, cheap ink
Posted: Thu Sep 05, 2024 7:05 pm
by jj 5117
Oh, yeah.
Thanks, @Eadwine Rose .
I spaz around on the forum format. I looked for a button to paste it as code for a while...
I am now WAY more likely to remember the code {code}. :)
Re: Recommend a printer? Inkjet, cheap, cheap ink
Posted: Thu Sep 05, 2024 8:57 pm
by JeffA
MadMax wrote: ↑Sun Sep 01, 2024 5:24 am
I that's the joke since toner is a dry powder
Yes. The phrase "keep your powder dry" has been attributed to Oliver Cromwell during the Cromwellian conquest of Ireland (1649–1653) who apparently recognized that the printer is more powerful than other weapons of war. This was later paraphrased as "the pen is mightier than the sword" by Edward Bulwer-Lytton in 1839 who had no understanding of how laserjet printers work and preferred handwriting his works.
Re: Recommend a printer? Inkjet, cheap, cheap ink
Posted: Fri Sep 06, 2024 5:08 am
by davidy
The HL-L2320D is discontinued. Thanks for the info kmathern. From my experience you should never get an ink printer unless you specifically need ink prints. The cartridges always dry up if you don't use them. Laser toner cartridges do not just dry up simply because you didn't print in 3 months and the weather was warm.