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Where MXLinux is cheesy (This is where you are wrong)

Posted: Thu Jul 11, 2024 8:00 am
by remfan1994
I hope you enjoy this topic. By no means is the first post a complete criticism.

It is very incorrect Thunar wants to have a "Desktop" folder in the home directory. Also, I think it is Firefox that keeps re-creating the "Downloads" folder there even though I told it to use "dls" instead!

The calendar the clock uses when nothing is set is better than Orage for that purpose because it closes gracefully (with another click on the clock), however Orage is the default.

And so forth. Let me take a break and maybe bring some more later. Others prolly have found something to tease you about too.

Re: Where MXLinux is cheesy (This is where you are wrong)

Posted: Thu Jul 11, 2024 8:45 am
by Eadwine Rose
If you are only teasing, I am moving your post to the Chat forum.

Re: Where MXLinux is cheesy (This is where you are wrong)

Posted: Thu Jul 11, 2024 10:09 am
by siamhie
remfan1994 wrote: Thu Jul 11, 2024 8:00 am It is very incorrect Thunar wants to have a "Desktop" folder in the home directory.

Where else are you going to keep the desktop icons? KDE/fluxbox desktops also have a desktop folder in the users home folder.

Also, I think it is Firefox that keeps re-creating the "Downloads" folder there even though I told it to use "dls" instead!

FF doesn't create the Downloads folder. It defaults to using a folder called Downloads and has for a couple of decades now.
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KDE installs don't come with a Downloads folder so I assume all downloads will end up in the users home folder. (I always create one to satisfy FF)
I stand corrected. It creates the folder if one is not available because that is the default download destination. You can still change this in preferences.

Re: Where MXLinux is cheesy (This is where you are wrong)

Posted: Thu Jul 11, 2024 10:37 am
by AVLinux
Hi,

Outside observations by new Users are often good for tweaking and tuning the experience however your observations have nothing to do with actual 'MX', these are Linux-wide conventions.. MX developers don't have anything to do with the inner workings of File Managers or Firefox those are handled by their respective developers which usually work toward accepted Open Source standards like XDG and Freedesktop.

Re: Where MXLinux is cheesy (This is where you are wrong)

Posted: Thu Jul 11, 2024 1:16 pm
by fehlix
remfan1994 wrote: Thu Jul 11, 2024 8:00 am It is very incorrect Thunar wants to have a "Desktop" folder in the home directory.
Thunar and other Desktop Manager, which do display the content of a directory on the visible desktop,
do obey the xdg-standrard directories for a couple of those like Desktop, Downloads etc.
One main advantage to follow the standard dirs,
will allow users with non-English language, do have those directories translated automatically
into their native language.
User can adjust to their liking, the location and the name of those folders,
by adjusting a config file located with users home unde .config:
file: ~/.config/user-dirs.dirs

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# This file is written by xdg-user-dirs-update
# If you want to change or add directories, just edit the line you're
# interested in. All local changes will be retained on the next run.
# Format is XDG_xxx_DIR="$HOME/yyy", where yyy is a shell-escaped
# homedir-relative path, or XDG_xxx_DIR="/yyy", where /yyy is an
# absolute path. No other format is supported.
# 
XDG_DESKTOP_DIR="$HOME/Desktop"
XDG_DOWNLOAD_DIR="$HOME/Downloads"
XDG_TEMPLATES_DIR="$HOME/Templates"
XDG_PUBLICSHARE_DIR="$HOME/Public"
XDG_DOCUMENTS_DIR="$HOME/Documents"
XDG_MUSIC_DIR="$HOME/Music"
XDG_PICTURES_DIR="$HOME/Pictures"
XDG_VIDEOS_DIR="$HOME/Videos"
In case one of thos directories does not exists, the fallback user home ($HOME) is used.
remfan1994 wrote: Thu Jul 11, 2024 8:00 am Also, I think it is Firefox that keeps re-creating the "Downloads" folder there even though I told it to use "dls" instead!
In case you cannot addjust an app, you may adjust the default Downloads directory as shown above.
remfan1994 wrote: Thu Jul 11, 2024 8:00 am The calendar the clock uses when nothing is set is better than Orage for that purpose because it closes gracefully (with another click on the clock), however Orage is the default.
If user do prefer to toggle on/off the orage calendar view,
they can add the switch "-t" or "--toggle"
within the command line of the panel icon.

Re: Where MXLinux is cheesy (This is where you are wrong)

Posted: Thu Jul 11, 2024 3:39 pm
by Stevo
Cheesy!! I wished you had some Gouda points.

Re: Where MXLinux is cheesy (This is where you are wrong)

Posted: Thu Jul 11, 2024 3:45 pm
by j2mcgreg
Stevo wrote: Thu Jul 11, 2024 3:39 pm Cheesy!! I wished you had some Gouda points.
:lol:

Re: Where MXLinux is cheesy (This is where you are wrong)

Posted: Fri Jul 12, 2024 1:34 am
by remfan1994
Well i hadn't hoped for technical support. I even thought perhaps I shouldn't say anything, however I did hope others would contribute similar (and better) ideas from their experience...

Re: Where MXLinux is cheesy (This is where you are wrong)

Posted: Fri Jul 12, 2024 9:22 am
by anticapitalista
do you have spam with the cheese? (just teasing)

Re: Where MXLinux is cheesy (This is where you are wrong)

Posted: Fri Jul 12, 2024 10:43 am
by j2mcgreg
@remfan1994
You just fell into the ‘experience’ trap that your previous operating system had all the answers. It’s the nonsense that Microsoft and Apple have been pushing since the inception of personal computers IE our way is best because we invented the map. If you had done proper research before making your opening statement, you would have discovered the reason why there are so many Linux distros: there are as many viable solutions as there are opinions. The ones that work stick around and the ones that don’t fade away. The idea that there exists (or needs to exist) a pre-ordained methodology for all distros is ludicrous. Diversity is Linux’s core strength.