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Fluxbox for a newbie

Posted: Wed Mar 13, 2024 4:17 pm
by jessejazza
I have looked at a few fluxbox clips on Youtube. I am thinking i would like to use it rather than MX-23.2_386 XFCE in future. I'm very much a DIY/customising sort of person.

I installed Fluxbox to my MX-23.2_386 XFCE installation to find that there is quite a few files to edit in the .fluxbox directory. As a newbie i thought i don't want to install the MX-23.2_386 Fluxbox version just yet as i need to use the computer each day [only got 1 PC].

So to shorten the learning curve [or need for tinkering] and still keep XFCE for everyday use - i thought i might be able to copy the .fluxbox files from the MX23.2_386 Fluxbox iso DVD and install them in my .fluxbox directory on the current XFCE installation. I found when the fluxbox DVD was running and i tried to access the .fluxbox directory it asked for root [i put in 'ROOT'] which it didn't like.

Was this a daft idea? What is the easiest way of learning Fluxbox whilst still needing to use the PC.

Re: Fluxbox for a newbie

Posted: Wed Mar 13, 2024 9:34 pm
by FullScale4Me
In 'MX Package Installer' select the 'Enabled Repos' tab.

Check 'Also Install "Recommended" Packages'.

Select and install the package 'mx-fluxbox'. (metapackage)

Logout.

At the top of the screen, there is a desktop switcher to go between the two. Only present when logged out.

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Fluxbox uses its bits as well as some from several lightweight distros. Finding and using logout within Fluxbox looks slightly different than Xfce.

EDIT

Well, that didn't give a fully working Fluxbox installation. Trying to launch Settings Manager. From the white wrench/spanner nothing, From the Orange/Red Icon it gave an error;

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Failed to run custom-toolbox /etc/custom-toolbox/mxfb-settings.list. Error 2:

Running MX Tweaks 'Reset ALL mx-fluxbox settings' made no change even after logging out and reboot. Ditto for the other two reset options adjacent to it.

I picked the (metapackage) but I'm not sure if it was the right thing to do in this case. What else is needed? :confused:

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System:
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    January 21 2024 base: Debian GNU/Linux 12 (bookworm)
Machine:
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FYI - this post in this thread was my effort to help the OP of the thread and learn something as a benefit.

If this ends up being outside the scope of the intent of the metapackage (above) this VBox VM isn't needed beyond helping the OP.

Re: Fluxbox for a newbie

Posted: Wed Mar 13, 2024 11:01 pm
by siamhie
Open MX Package Manager and at the bottom of the first tab (Popular Applications) is the category Window Managers. Install fluxbox from there.
To switch between desktops, log out and click on the icon at the top center of the screen to select the desktop.

Re: Fluxbox for a newbie

Posted: Thu Mar 14, 2024 12:04 am
by FullScale4Me
Thanks, siamhie.

I see my personal solution in my Torrent folder - MX-23.2_fluxbox_386.iso.

Not sure if the package: mx-fluxbox-data-pi is supposed to show on a 32 bit X86 MX Linux instance.

Below is what MXPI sees for 'fluxbox' - highlighted is what I used as my 1st install attempt.

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Re: Fluxbox for a newbie

Posted: Thu Mar 14, 2024 2:00 am
by siamhie
FullScale4Me wrote: Thu Mar 14, 2024 12:04 am
Not sure if the package: mx-fluxbox-data-pi is supposed to show on a 32 bit X86 MX Linux instance.

@FullScale4Me Does fluxbox show up in your window manager section under popular applications?

Re: Fluxbox for a newbie

Posted: Thu Mar 14, 2024 4:16 am
by FullScale4Me
Yes, I've found it and all is good.

It's still doesn't clear up why there is two metapackages.

Re: Fluxbox for a newbie

Posted: Thu Mar 14, 2024 8:56 am
by siamhie
FullScale4Me wrote: Thu Mar 14, 2024 4:16 am Yes, I've found it and all is good.

It's still doesn't clear up why there is two metapackages.

Maybe @Jerry3904 can clear that up for you.

Re: Fluxbox for a newbie

Posted: Thu Mar 14, 2024 9:29 am
by Jerry3904
I'm on the road today, will check tonight

Re: Fluxbox for a newbie

Posted: Fri Mar 15, 2024 6:22 am
by Jerry3904
FullScale4Me wrote: Thu Mar 14, 2024 4:16 am Yes, I've found it and all is good.

It's still doesn't clear up why there is two metapackages.
The -pi package is used for Raspberry Pi installations, and maybe only older ones, not sure but @dolphin_oracle set it up and can explain better.

Re: Fluxbox for a newbie

Posted: Fri Mar 15, 2024 7:58 am
by dolphin_oracle
that mx-fluxbox-data-pi package is an old one, and likely doesn't have the current default fluxbox configuration contained. however nothing in it is architecture dependent and so shows up on all architectures, not just the pi.

Re: Fluxbox for a newbie

Posted: Sun Mar 17, 2024 7:59 am
by jessejazza
Sorry not to have replied earlier but been busy this last few days regarding a new job and security clearance. I much appreciate your replies but i don't seem to have had much success.

Maybe i should outline what i was expecting for clarity. I wanted to install fluxbox as an alternative window manager whilst using xfce to explore fluxbox so i can carry out customisation - reason being that i am sure i will make mistakes. I have looked at the directories under .fluxbox and feel there is quite a lot to learn. I was hoping to have fluxbox to test out like there is icewm installed by default. So far i have not found a fluxbox book or pdf that takes one through each of the files - if there was i would probably install the fluxbox distro straight away but too much of a risk without a good manual to read through. i have run the fluxbox iso and done some exploring and like fluxbox. It goes without saying i have a great library of browser passwords and don't want to do all that again just yet but hopefully if i learn fluxbox over the next few months the next install will be the fluxbox distro.

I installed xfce as i have used it in the past and did a full sha256sum and that was fine.

I used another distro before and this was my first experience of mx-package installer - previous experience was synaptic and aptitude. Following the 1st reply i tried to follow the post

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There seems to be some package conflict. What i noticed was 'fluxbox' seems to conflict with 'mx-fluxbox'.

I thought i would try synaptic as it is graphical and one can easily look at dependencies [had to change to colour to yellow to see the package more clearly - the dark green masks the package names].

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But it would install despite the dependency conflicts... that seems odd to me. Using restart i selected fluxbox and logged in okay but left with a bare screen - i was hoping to get a customisation like on the fluxbox iso. It would seem that is not provided but one has to do customisation. I got 9 packages to install - more than with mx-package installer. Again dependency conflict.

So thought what would i get with command line aptitude which i must say is my choice for package manager. [I've got aptitude set up with aliases... so 'ins' is install]. Thought i would see what i got with installing 'fluxbox'. It seems there is conflict there and mx-fluxbox is the correct selection which i did for the second attempt. Wow a whopping 31 files and pulls in 'fluxbox'.

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ins fluxbox
The following NEW packages will be installed:
  fluxbox 
The following packages are RECOMMENDED but will NOT be installed:
  xfonts-terminus 
The following packages are SUGGESTED but will NOT be installed:
  fbautostart fbpager 
0 packages upgraded, 1 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
Need to get 0 B/1,289 kB of archives. After unpacking 4,323 kB will be used.
(Reading database ... 305735 files and directories currently installed.)
Preparing to unpack .../fluxbox_1.3.7+git20220731-0mx23+1_i386.deb ...
Unpacking fluxbox (1.3.7+git20220731-0mx23+1) ...
Setting up fluxbox (1.3.7+git20220731-0mx23+1) ...
Processing triggers for menu (2.1.49) ...
Processing triggers for man-db (2.11.2-2) ...
                                         
Current status: 0 (+0) broken, 0 (+0) upgradable, 363 (+0) new.

ins mx-fluxbox
The following NEW packages will be installed:
  exit-options{a} fluxbox{a} fonts-font-awesome{a} gkrellm{a} grsync{a} idesk{a} 
  libgnutls-openssl27{a} libgtkmm-2.4-1v5{a} libntlm0{a} libqalculate-data{a} libqalculate22{a} 
  librsvg2-bin{a} libxcb-cursor0{a} libxcb-ewmh2{a} mx-desktop-menu-l10n{a} mx-dockmaker{a} 
  mx-fluxbox mx-fluxbox-data{a} mx-idesktool{a} mx-rofi-manager{a} mxfb-accessories{a} 
  mxfb-docs{a} mxfb-goodies{a} nitrogen{a} preview-mx{a} qalc{a} rofi{a} rofi-calc{a} tint2{a} 
  wmalauncher{a} xfonts-terminus{a} 
The following packages are RECOMMENDED but will NOT be installed:
  fonts-terminus-otb 
The following packages are SUGGESTED but will NOT be installed:
  fbautostart fbpager xfonts-terminus-oblique 
The following packages will NOT be UPGRADED:
  rsyslogd-sysvinit-compat 
0 packages upgraded, 31 newly installed, 0 to remove and 1 not upgraded.
Need to get 14.7 MB/16.0 MB of archives. After unpacking 55.6 MB will be used.
Do you want to continue? [Y/n/?]
So i installed and found i had just the same as synaptic installed - barebones install needing customisation which i am not ready for yet.

Summary
Hmmm aptitude seemed to find more files to install which i don't understand. The install by synaptic and aptitude seemed to work but the conflicts seem odd to me. It's not what i wanted to find - i thought i would get a customised install of fluxbox not one to fully customise which i am not ready for yet.

Developer note: if icewm is provided on the DVD as an alternative - could fluxbox not be included as well for future iso as there is enough space on the DVD iso. I have looked at icewm and think fluxbox is a more viable alternative to xfce for those seeking customisation. Another thought - if there was one DVD iso at install, options could be offered for window managers
[ ] all [ ] icewm [ ] fluxbox [ ] xfce
which would allow users to try the alternatives, icewm is not to my liking but i am hoping fluxbox is and i would have loved just selecting it before login.

So it seems i will have to wait until i choose to try the fluxbox iso install. I appreciate the replies but it is an outcome that i didn't expect [wrongly so i should add perhaps]. As i see it - I need to get another machine so i can install the fluxbox iso and then copy files across. Or i do the fluxbox iso install - copy the files to my remote hard disk - then do the standard install with xfce, then install mx-fluxbox with aptitude and then copy the files across from the remote drive. Then i have the solution i am seeking which is using xfce for everyday use while i explore and tinker with fluxbox. It's likely i will mess up something with fluxbox files and then will just have to just cut and paste from the remote hard disk.

Re: Fluxbox for a newbie

Posted: Sun Mar 17, 2024 9:20 am
by dolphin_oracle
our config will not be provided if an existing .fluxbox folder exists.

if you were starting from a clean Xfce or KDE iso install, then just installing mx-fluxbox from the popular apps entry in MX Packageinstaller will bring in everything you need, and a simple login/logout would give you the fluxbox configuration that we use on the iso. I don't think I can make it any easier, the mx-fluxbox configuration is pretty complicated.

if configuration folders already exist, then we presume that the user has a config that they want to use, and so will not copy in any configs on login.

also, icewm is not provided on any iso by default. our isos are relatively simple, one desktop environment per iso.

**edit**

the script that sets up the fluxbox config is here /etc/X11/Xsession.d/21fluxbox-defaults-mx

and is run during login, before fluxbox starts.

Re: Fluxbox for a newbie

Posted: Sun Mar 17, 2024 10:29 am
by siamhie
1. Are you installing fluxbox along side a pre-installed desktop (XFCE/KDE)?
or
2. Installing fluxbox on a different partition and re-using the home partition?

Re: Fluxbox for a newbie

Posted: Sun Mar 17, 2024 10:58 am
by Melber
Have you considered just running fluxbox from a live usb with persistence to save any config changes?

Re: Fluxbox for a newbie

Posted: Sun Mar 17, 2024 12:00 pm
by jessejazza
siamhie wrote: Sun Mar 17, 2024 10:29 am 1. Are you installing fluxbox along side a pre-installed desktop (XFCE/KDE)?
or
2. Installing fluxbox on a different partition and re-using the home partition?
Strangely enough i've just logged on to ask exactly that - and you have suggested it! My hard drive is 500GB so plenty of space. Never done it before so presumably at install stage one partitions the drive say 250GB and installs say xfce iso and then do the install for fluxbox iso. But on bootup how does one choose between the partitions?

Re: Fluxbox for a newbie

Posted: Sun Mar 17, 2024 12:06 pm
by jessejazza
Melber wrote: Sun Mar 17, 2024 10:58 am Have you considered just running fluxbox from a live usb with "persistence" to save any config changes?
Not quite sure what you mean by 'peristence'. Run the live DVD and carefully note down changes?

I thought one could log in as 'user root' with ROOT and copy the .fluxbox directory but that didn't work - maybe i didn't do it right.

Re: Fluxbox for a newbie

Posted: Sun Mar 17, 2024 12:09 pm
by jessejazza
dolphin_oracle wrote: Sun Mar 17, 2024 9:20 am also, icewm is not provided on any iso by default. our isos are relatively simple, one desktop environment per iso.
Well icewm installed on my PC and i didn't do it through a package manager.

Re: Fluxbox for a newbie

Posted: Sun Mar 17, 2024 1:51 pm
by dolphin_oracle
jessejazza wrote: Sun Mar 17, 2024 12:09 pm
dolphin_oracle wrote: Sun Mar 17, 2024 9:20 am also, icewm is not provided on any iso by default. our isos are relatively simple, one desktop environment per iso.
Well icewm installed on my PC and i didn't do it through a package manager.
you can check the apt-history in the quick-system-info tool to see when and how it was installed. but I can tell you its not on the Xfce 32 bit iso.

Re: Fluxbox for a newbie

Posted: Sun Mar 17, 2024 6:02 pm
by jessejazza
dolphin_oracle wrote: Sun Mar 17, 2024 1:51 pm
jessejazza wrote: Sun Mar 17, 2024 12:09 pm
dolphin_oracle wrote: Sun Mar 17, 2024 9:20 am also, icewm is not provided on any iso by default. our isos are relatively simple, one desktop environment per iso.
Well icewm installed on my PC and i didn't do it through a package manager.
you can check the apt-history in the quick-system-info tool to see when and how it was installed. but I can tell you its not on the Xfce 32 bit iso.
Ok fine here it is but i don't know how i could have installed it. I haven't selected it - i don't like icewm. That's why i am hoping to learn about fluxbox.

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  Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian.list
    1: deb http://deb.debian.org/debian bookworm main contrib non-free non-free-firmware
    2: deb http://security.debian.org/debian-security bookworm-security main contrib non-free non-free-firmware
  Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/mx.list
    1: deb http://mxlinux.mirrors.uk2.net/packages/mx/repo/ bookworm main non-free
Info:
  Processes: 194 Uptime: 4h 34m wakeups: 1 Memory: 3.87 GiB used: 2.04 GiB (52.8%) Init: SysVinit
  v: 3.06 runlevel: 5 default: graphical tool: systemctl Compilers: gcc: 12.2.0 alt: 12
  Client: shell wrapper v: 5.2.15-release inxi: 3.3.26
Boot Mode: BIOS (legacy, CSM, MBR)
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Re: Fluxbox for a newbie

Posted: Tue Mar 19, 2024 9:57 am
by siamhie
jessejazza wrote: Sun Mar 17, 2024 6:02 pm
Ok fine here it is but i don't know how i could have installed it. I haven't selected it - i don't like icewm. That's why i am hoping to learn about fluxbox.

It's quite possible you selected it and didn't realize it. They are right next to each other.

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Thank You to the MX Linux Developers and Community

Posted: Mon Nov 25, 2024 1:23 pm
by petyko
I recently installed MX Linux on an old Fujitsu Esprimo ( core2duo, 4 gb ram ) laptop, and I am absolutely impressed by how well it performs. Special thanks to the developers and the community for creating such an amazing distribution. Even my old machine feels like it has a new life!

Although I’m not able to support the project financially right now, I wanted to express my gratitude and let you know how much I appreciate all your hard work.