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Cursor became a large X, cannot move or resize windows

Posted: Fri Feb 23, 2024 7:15 am
by epitom4
This happened just this morning. I wondered if it might be caused by an update? At any rate, help is much appreciated. There are other problems, like not being able to access my bookmarks on Firefox.

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System:    Kernel: 5.18.0-4mx-amd64 [5.18.16-1~mx21+1] x86_64 bits: 64 compiler: gcc v: 10.2.1 
           parameters: BOOT_IMAGE=/boot/vmlinuz-5.18.0-4mx-amd64 root=UUID=<filter> ro quiet splash 
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           Distro: MX-21.3_ahs_x64 Wildflower September 18  2022 
           base: Debian GNU/Linux 11 (bullseye) 
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           chip-ID: 1002:164c class-ID: 0300 
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           chip-ID: 10ec:8852 class-ID: 0280 
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           chip-ID: 0bda:4852 class-ID: e001 serial: <filter> 
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Info:      Processes: 313 Uptime: 17m wakeups: 2 Memory: 10.53 GiB used: 1.22 GiB (11.6%) 
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Boot Mode: UEFI

Re: Cursor became a large X, cannot move or resize windows

Posted: Fri Feb 23, 2024 8:19 am
by Charlie Brown
epitom4 wrote: Fri Feb 23, 2024 7:15 am... wondered if it might be caused by an update?..
Probably just a coincidence.

Can you create a new user ("MX User Manager") then login with that and see if it's the same there? (or manually: i.e. sudo adduser charlie )

Re: Cursor became a large X, cannot move or resize windows

Posted: Fri Feb 23, 2024 10:11 am
by epitom4
I will give that a try. Thanks.

Re: Cursor became a large X, cannot move or resize windows

Posted: Fri Feb 23, 2024 10:43 am
by epitom4
OK. That worked. Thanks a lot.

I guess now I have to figure out how to access my files and programs from the old me to the new me. It seems that years ago, I think on a Mac, I was able to access the other user's files and maybe even applications by making an icon on the desktop. Can that be done here, and, if so, how?

Re: Cursor became a large X, cannot move or resize windows

Posted: Fri Feb 23, 2024 12:35 pm
by Charlie Brown
epitom4 wrote: Fri Feb 23, 2024 10:43 am... how to access my files and programs from the old me ...
It's easy to access , copy, backup etc.

You can also copy/sync from user to user ("MX User Manager" - "Copy/Sync" tab)

However if you copy the whole thing then the new one will also become corrupted. Therefore, nothing to lose, login as old you, then:

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rm /.config/xfce4/xfconf/xfce-perchannel-xml/xfwm4.xml
logout, login.

(Will be recreated and reset to defaults)

Re: Cursor became a large X, cannot move or resize windows

Posted: Fri Feb 23, 2024 12:43 pm
by epitom4
I tried but it said 'permission denied'

Re: Cursor became a large X, cannot move or resize windows

Posted: Fri Feb 23, 2024 12:45 pm
by Charlie Brown
To remove file when you were logged in ?

If yes, then there's probably an ownership issue, it/they may have changed to root somehow.

For now add a sudo at the beginning : sudo rm ...


While you're at it check the ownerships:

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ll ~/.config/xfce4/xfconf/xfce-perchannel-xml

Re: Cursor became a large X, cannot move or resize windows

Posted: Fri Feb 23, 2024 3:16 pm
by epitom4
I couldn't do the first thing. Here is the result of the second.

EDIT: I forgot that I was in the old user version (Tom). I need to do this from the new user (asterisktom).

Tom@thinkPad:~
$ ll ~/.config/xfce4/xfconf/xfce-perchannel-xml
total 120K
-rw-r--r-- 1 Tom Tom 153 Mar 18 2022 accessibility.xml
-rw-r--r-- 1 Tom Tom 908 Feb 7 18:44 catfish.xml
-rw-r--r-- 1 Tom Tom 2.2K Feb 25 2023 displays.xml
-rw-r--r-- 1 Tom Tom 204 Jan 13 19:33 keyboards.xml
-rw-r--r-- 1 Tom Tom 240 Mar 18 2022 pointers.xml
-rw-r--r-- 1 Tom Tom 549 Mar 18 2022 thunar-volman.xml
-rw-r--r-- 1 Tom Tom 1.9K Feb 23 05:01 thunar.xml
-rw-r--r-- 1 Tom Tom 1.8K Mar 18 2022 xfce4-appfinder.xml
-rw-r--r-- 1 Tom Tom 4.0K Feb 20 05:03 xfce4-desktop.xml
-rwxr-xr-x 1 Tom Tom 14K Mar 18 2022 xfce4-keyboard-shortcuts.xml
-rw-r--r-- 1 Tom Tom 448 Sep 26 2022 xfce4-mime-settings.xml
-rw-r--r-- 1 Tom Tom 848 Mar 18 2022 xfce4-mixer.xml
-rw-r--r-- 1 Tom Tom 1.7K Feb 23 12:17 xfce4-notifyd.xml
-rw-r--r-- 1 Tom Tom 20K Feb 23 15:04 xfce4-panel.xml
-rw-r--r-- 1 Tom Tom 693 Feb 23 10:06 xfce4-power-manager.xml
-rw-r--r-- 1 Tom Tom 1.1K Mar 18 2022 xfce4-screensaver.xml
-rw-r--r-- 1 Tom Tom 2.2K Feb 23 05:04 xfce4-session.xml
-rw-r--r-- 1 Tom Tom 336 Feb 1 12:09 xfce4-settings-editor.xml
-rw-r--r-- 1 Tom Tom 276 Jan 29 13:07 xfce4-settings-manager.xml
-rw-r--r-- 1 Tom Tom 215 May 31 2023 xfce4-taskmanager.xml
-rw-r--r-- 1 Tom Tom 5.5K Feb 14 17:04 xfwm4.xml
-rw-r--r-- 1 Tom Tom 2.1K Feb 1 12:09 xsettings.xml
Tom@thinkPad:~
$

Re: Cursor became a large X, cannot move or resize windows

Posted: Fri Feb 23, 2024 3:22 pm
by Charlie Brown
It's weird why it doesn't let you, cause no ownership issue:

-rw-r--r-- 1 Tom Tom 5.5K Feb 14 17:04 xfwm4.xml

If you like you can delete using the file manager or even root Thunar, or when logged in as the new user (accessing there with root Thunar ...)

Re: Cursor became a large X, cannot move or resize windows

Posted: Fri Feb 23, 2024 3:24 pm
by epitom4
I screwed up. See the above note, the edit.

Re: Cursor became a large X, cannot move or resize windows

Posted: Fri Feb 23, 2024 3:26 pm
by Charlie Brown
No, you did it correctly, login as Tom (old user, where there is the issue) then remove that file, either with file manager or via command ..

Alternatively you can (again, when logged in as Tom):

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cp /etc/skel/.config/xfce4/xfconf/xfce-perchannel-xml/xfwm4.xml ~/.config/xfce4/xfconf/xfce-perchannel-xml/xfwm4.xml
logout, login (to take effect).

Re: Cursor became a large X, cannot move or resize windows

Posted: Fri Feb 23, 2024 3:36 pm
by epitom4
Edit: I just now saw your comment above. I will try that.

Here is the output from my new user (asterisktom):

asterisktom@thinkPad:~/Desktop
$ ll ~/.config/xfce4/xfconf/xfce-perchannel-xml
total 96K
-rw-r--r-- 1 asterisktom asterisktom 153 Feb 23 10:13 accessibility.xml
-rw-r--r-- 1 asterisktom asterisktom 333 Feb 23 10:14 displays.xml
-rw-r--r-- 1 asterisktom asterisktom 204 Feb 23 10:13 keyboards.xml
-rw-r--r-- 1 asterisktom asterisktom 240 Feb 23 10:13 pointers.xml
-rw-r--r-- 1 asterisktom asterisktom 549 Feb 23 10:13 thunar-volman.xml
-rw-r--r-- 1 asterisktom asterisktom 898 Feb 23 10:16 thunar.xml
-rw-r--r-- 1 asterisktom asterisktom 1.8K Feb 23 10:13 xfce4-appfinder.xml
-rw-r--r-- 1 asterisktom asterisktom 3.0K Feb 23 10:14 xfce4-desktop.xml
-rwxr-xr-x 1 asterisktom asterisktom 14K Feb 23 10:13 xfce4-keyboard-shortcuts.xml
-rw-r--r-- 1 asterisktom asterisktom 448 Feb 23 10:13 xfce4-mime-settings.xml
-rw-r--r-- 1 asterisktom asterisktom 848 Feb 23 10:13 xfce4-mixer.xml
-rw-r--r-- 1 asterisktom asterisktom 1.1K Feb 23 15:28 xfce4-notifyd.xml
-rw-r--r-- 1 asterisktom asterisktom 4.7K Feb 23 10:14 xfce4-panel.xml
-rw-r--r-- 1 asterisktom asterisktom 693 Feb 23 10:14 xfce4-power-manager.xml
-rw-r--r-- 1 asterisktom asterisktom 1.1K Feb 23 10:13 xfce4-screensaver.xml
-rw-r--r-- 1 asterisktom asterisktom 1.8K Feb 23 10:13 xfce4-session.xml
-rw-r--r-- 1 asterisktom asterisktom 336 Feb 23 10:13 xfce4-settings-editor.xml
-rw-r--r-- 1 asterisktom asterisktom 5.5K Feb 23 10:14 xfwm4.xml
-rw-r--r-- 1 asterisktom asterisktom 1.8K Feb 23 10:13 xsettings.xml
asterisktom@thinkPad:~/Desktop

Re: Cursor became a large X, cannot move or resize windows

Posted: Fri Feb 23, 2024 3:37 pm
by Charlie Brown
Thank you but we don't need that one, already no problem there :)

Re: Cursor became a large X, cannot move or resize windows

Posted: Fri Feb 23, 2024 3:48 pm
by epitom4
OK, I did it. Interestingly that the X cursor is gone. I now have the normal cursor. Windows still won't move.

Writing this from the first user. I will switch back now and check how permissions go.

I do appreciate your help. As soon as I get back from errands I will follow up here.

Re: Cursor became a large X, cannot move or resize windows

Posted: Fri Feb 23, 2024 4:05 pm
by Charlie Brown
This time :

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cp /etc/skel/.config/xfce4/xfconf/xfce-perchannel-xml/xsettings.xml ~/.config/xfce4/xfconf/xfce-perchannel-xml/xsettings.xml
logout, login.

Re: Cursor became a large X, cannot move or resize windows

Posted: Fri Feb 23, 2024 5:43 pm
by epitom4
I spoke too soon. On my old user the X cursor is there when I click below the Firefox window, but is normal otherwise.

In my new user session (asterisktom) I still do not have permissions to save any work on my photos from the old user files. Is this where chmod comes in? I am afraid of screwing things up. I have a lot of photos in the old partition and material for a book that is due out in a month. I can't use my Gimp under either user, but for different reasons. In the old I can't move the windows so I can see what I am doing, In the new I don't have permission yet to access those photos.

Re: Cursor became a large X, cannot move or resize windows

Posted: Fri Feb 23, 2024 7:04 pm
by Charlie Brown
Normally you can copy (or move) all kinds of data from Tom to asterisktom . Once they're copied / moved into the new place the owner is asterisktom .

In case it asks for authentication (to open other user's directories etc): it's the user's password by default (not root's).

Also if you're happy with the new user, after moving all data you can even remove user Tom finally. You can even rename asterisktom to Tom later (if you like only, not a must) :)

Re: Cursor became a large X, cannot move or resize windows

Posted: Sat Feb 24, 2024 8:04 am
by epitom4
Thanks a lot for keeping up with the advice. Much appreciated. I decided to do just that: Move all of my files to asterisktom. There were a few photos that were denied so I just screenshotted them and transferred them. The only problem now is the applications. Tricky business, I think. I could just download them again and delete them from the old user.

Re: Cursor became a large X, cannot move or resize windows

Posted: Sun Feb 25, 2024 4:47 am
by epitom4
One last question: When I turn on the laptop it always opens to the old user, not the new user. How do I set it so that it opens always to the new? I still want to keep the old around because I still have programs there that I need to use for the time being.

Re: Cursor became a large X, cannot move or resize windows

Posted: Sun Feb 25, 2024 11:57 am
by Charlie Brown

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sudo nano /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf
  • If you're having to type the username of asterisktom manually (not being displayed when you click the username box) :

    Uncomment this line (simply press Alt+3 and the # will be removed)

    greeter-hide-users=

    ( ... the one under [SeatDefaults] section, about line 75 , the above similar ones are explanations etc., so scroll down to this section )

    and also change it to false:

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    greeter-hide-users=false
  • Also add this one somewhere under it:

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    default-user=asterisktom


If still the same:

It's probably doing that according to User ID sequence, Tom is 1000 , asterisktom is 1001 .We can simply change Tom to 1002 or so (also Tom's Group)


Just on this opportunity: @Adrian would you consider to add such an option in the first tab in MXUM ? "Change User ID", "Change Group ID" (or so) ... Ok I know you don't want to make it too crowded :D . And, yes, it may also require changing the ownership of /home/that_user/... to the new IDs

Re: Cursor became a large X, cannot move or resize windows  [Solved]

Posted: Mon Feb 26, 2024 5:52 am
by epitom4
Doing something else I stumbled on the fix for my problem. I guess I never noticed the very helpful user settings panel. Everything is fine. Thanks again for your help.
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