What is the way out when I get stuck during booting up?

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Sudhakarrdy
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What is the way out when I get stuck during booting up?

#1 Post by Sudhakarrdy »

Whenever I don't login for several months & then try to boot up, the system gets stuck during boot up i.e, the progress bar gets stuck & doesn't progress further or slowly completes the bar but even after completing, nothing happens.
In such situations, the only way out for me appears to be to force shutdown by long pressing the power button & then restart, when it completes the process normally.
I use KDE alongside XFCE & both behave the same way.
It's said that force shutdown like that will cause damage to the system. Is it true?
When it gets stuck, pressing the escape button shows that it is awaiting populating the system. But it remains there forever.
Today, it happened even though I have been using the system regularly.
Want to know if it's normal if I try to boot after a long time (a few months) & is there a better way out if stuck?

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Re: What is the way out when I get stuck during booting up?

#2 Post by j2mcgreg »

Ubuntu ppas are not compatible with MX and can really screw with your system. See here:
viewtopic.php?t=44747
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Re: What is the way out when I get stuck during booting up?

#3 Post by Charlie Brown »

Sudhakarrdy wrote: Sat Nov 11, 2023 4:43 am... force shutdown like that will cause damage to the system. Is it true?..
Yes, may / may not.

In all cases: Boot with a live usb (or any other installed system if there is) then open GParted, right-click on partition(s) (especially on nvme0n1p2 and sda1 ) : "Check".


Edit: sda1 (in fact: all one by one "while you're at it" )
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Re: What is the way out when I get stuck during booting up?

#4 Post by siamhie »

Sudhakarrdy wrote: Sat Nov 11, 2023 4:43 am
is there a better way out if stuck?
ctrl+alt+del will reboot the system.
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Re: What is the way out when I get stuck during booting up?

#5 Post by Sudhakarrdy »

siamhie wrote: Sat Nov 11, 2023 10:16 am
Sudhakarrdy wrote: Sat Nov 11, 2023 4:43 am
is there a better way out if stuck?
ctrl+alt+del will reboot the system.
I tried but it didn't.

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Re: What is the way out when I get stuck during booting up?

#6 Post by Sudhakarrdy »

j2mcgreg wrote: Sat Nov 11, 2023 7:35 am Ubuntu ppas are not compatible with MX and can really screw with your system. See here:
viewtopic.php?t=44747
I can see 2 Ubuntu ppa s in the list but how to find which are the exact apps offending so that I can remove them?
Is it enough just to uninstall them?
How to remove those Ubuntu ppa s?

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Re: What is the way out when I get stuck during booting up?

#7 Post by j2mcgreg »

Sudhakarrdy wrote: Sat Nov 11, 2023 1:01 pm
j2mcgreg wrote: Sat Nov 11, 2023 7:35 am Ubuntu ppas are not compatible with MX and can really screw with your system. See here:
viewtopic.php?t=44747
I can see 2 Ubuntu ppa s in the list but how to find which are the exact apps offending so that I can remove them?
Is it enough just to uninstall them?
How to remove those Ubuntu ppa s?
You need to reinstall and not enable them again, It isn't enough to just remove the main packages because there's no way to tell what other dependencies were dragged in when those packages updated.
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Re: What is the way out when I get stuck during booting up?

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Re: What is the way out when I get stuck during booting up?

#9 Post by Sudhakarrdy »

Ref #7
You need to reinstall and not enable them again, It isn't enough to just remove the main packages because there's no way to tell what other dependencies were dragged in when those packages updated.
U mean I should reinstall MX all over again?
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Re: What is the way out when I get stuck during booting up?

#10 Post by Sudhakarrdy »

MXRobo wrote: Sat Nov 11, 2023 1:29 pm viewtopic.php?p=751406#p751406 See post and links in #2 and 5.
https://ibb.co/jDTwcgz
Thanks.
I have gone through the contents.
The lower link is not opening though.

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