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Hi,

I'm upgrading from MX-21 but run into troubles

$ sudo apt-get update
OK:1 http://deb.debian.org/debian bookworm-updates InRelease
Ign:2 http://security.debian.org/debian-security bookwormsecurity InRelease
OK:3 http://deb.debian.org/debian bookworm InRelease
OK:4 http://ftp.halifax.rwth-aachen.de/mxlin ... es/mx/repo bookworm InRelease
Ign:5 http://security.debian.org stable/updates InRelease
Fehl:6 http://security.debian.org/debian-security bookwormsecurity Release
404 Not Found [IP: 146.75.118.132 80]
Ign:7 http://deb.debian.org/debian-security bookworm/updates InRelease
Fehl:8 http://security.debian.org stable/updates Release
404 Not Found [IP: 146.75.118.132 80]
Holen:9 https://download.docker.com/linux/debian bookworm InRelease [43,3 kB]
Fehl:10 http://deb.debian.org/debian-security bookworm/updates Release
404 Not Found [IP: 146.75.118.132 80]
OK:11 https://packages.microsoft.com/repos/vscode stable InRelease
OK:12 http://de.mirrors.clouvider.net/debian stable InRelease
Paketlisten werden gelesen… Fertig

It seems that there is a problem with Debians Loadbalancer suppying wrong adresses.

Any help? Thanks.

Welcome to the forum.

Are you following the information in the MX Wiki to carry out this upgrade? If so, did you read and accept the first sentence?

It's just my personal experience, and that of others on our Facebook group, that this only goes smoothly about 50% of the time.

Chris

bookwormsecurity should be bookworm-security

It works 0% of time for people who don't follow instructions...

It works 0% of time for people who don't follow instructions...

This is the kind of answer that would keep my 70 year old wife - who has seen a marked deterioration in her ability to follow detailed instructions - from ever posting on a forum.
You don't have any idea what someone may be struggling through. Hope it never happens to you.

Redacted wrote: Wed Nov 08, 2023 10:10 am

It works 0% of time for people who don't follow instructions...

This is the kind of answer that would keep my 70 year old wife - who has seen a marked deterioration in her ability to follow detailed instructions - from ever posting on a forum.
You don't have any idea what someone may be struggling through. Hope it never happens to you.

On the contrary, we do. It's why our recommended method to upgrade to a new version is to perform a fresh install and then restore your data from a backup. We know that an upgrade in place is a one shot deal and that only the most experienced users will correctly accomplish the task.

chrispop99 wrote: Wed Nov 08, 2023 9:34 am Welcome to the forum.

Are you following the information in the MX Wiki to carry out this upgrade? If so, did you read and accept the first sentence?

It's just my personal experience, and that of others on our Facebook group, that this only goes smoothly about 50% of the time.

Chris

The problem is that I followed the MX Wiki exactly. And the Wiki isn't correct.

Adrian wrote: Wed Nov 08, 2023 9:45 am bookwormsecurity should be bookworm-security

It works 0% of time for people who don't follow instructions...

Wow I haven't expected so dump comments. Great. This makes this forum a place never to ask anything in the future. Thanks for nothing.

I thought his remark was a rather jocular facetiousness attempt at humor, and if viewed as half-full, could be construed as a warning since it's risky to try anyway, e.g this is risky, and it definitely won't work if you don't follow the instructions and in no way intended as an insult, nor should one have to tiptoe when expressing themselves for fear that others view the comment as a lack of sympathy or empathy for those in need of such.

But don't listen to me because I'm a misogynistic bigot – "his".

And kudos j2mcgreg.

I have gone over and over the update instructions and I do not see any point where there is anything about -security in the instructions The change from 'bullseye' to 'bookworm' and then adding 'non-free-firmware' seem to be the only real places that there are mods to repo's .

This leads me to think that either the repo's should have already had this, or it should have been brought in automatically from the process. ( MX21 DOES have bullseye-security in the repo set )

If the OP manually edited the repos, then there was a mistake. If the OP ONLY ran the process as outlined in the update instructions wiki, then either there as an existing issue with the OP's repos, or something else went very wrong.

MX21 Repos MX23 Repos Slightly different machines, but you get the drift.

Is it possible that the repo lists were not fully updated?

wwd wrote: Wed Nov 08, 2023 1:10 pm

Adrian wrote: Wed Nov 08, 2023 9:45 am bookwormsecurity should be bookworm-security

It works 0% of time for people who don't follow instructions...

Wow I haven't expected so dump comments. Great. This makes this forum a place never to ask anything in the future. Thanks for nothing.

Wow, such thin skinned, what did I say? It was not even directed at you, it was at the funny (I thought) comment to that "it works 50% of the time"...

Adrian wrote: Wed Nov 08, 2023 3:10 pm ... It was not even directed at you, it was at the funny (I thought) comment to that "it works 50% of the time"...

I apologize to you and the forum. It was my knee-jerk outburst, I'm sure, that led him to take your comment personally.
I'm sorry.

Just pointing out: "it’s not guaranteed to work and is not supported in any way by the dev team."

It states that clearly. It is not recommended at all to do it that way. That people are willing to help shows the level of support here. Other places they would have said: you get to keep the pieces.

@wwd Whatever method of upgrading you decide on or can do, do you have or plan to have separate / and / home for future events as this or not ?

I ran Adrian's upgrade script today on two of my Thinkpad laptops (T490 and L430) and it ran flawlessly. Must follow the procedure carefully to get good results. The script worked 100% of the time in my case!

Users should not be discouraged from upgrading using a script as opposed to a fresh install which can take several hours by the time everything is said and done. If someone is comfortable with using the command line they should be able to try different methods to achieve their desired goal of upgrading. In my case this was the ONLY way I could get from MX 21 to 23 on my Lenovo Thinkpad T490 since all other methods I tried failed. Ubuntu has had upgrade scripts available almost since they came on the scene in 2004. Most other active distros still don't have this feature available even after many years of development. Very sad!