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Do you have some links to instant free music or radio you want to share.?

I can't find any so I guess I look in the wrong places or miss a trick.
Even in Youtube I have to press a button before it starts.

I suggest that you search for "music in public domain" ( sans quotes).

For internet radio, I find QMPlay2 very helpful. I use the search function to look for key words, eg jazz, progressive rock, etc, and check out the radio link results that appear.

It can sometimes help to allow Firefox to Autoplay.
At least that was the trick to make my first radio link play instantly:
http://www.joyradio.co.uk/streaming-player.html

Can anyone make Youtube play music instantly maybe by using an option along with the URL.?


I can't but with Clipgrab I can download some videos I like and put them in a local folder.

In that folder I can use Thunar to open a Terminal there.

And it looks like this Terminal command works:
With full path included the command should also be able to work from a script or a launcher.

I claim it saves a lot of on-line time and energy, and the player is better.



What do you say, do you also want a Terminal code option that at the same time can set the vlc players volume to a specific level you choose.?
That is funny, so do I but you have to ask the others because I don't know vlc that well yet.

If you have a folder:
and you put your music files there

then this Terminal command can play them all in random order:

I can not make the command work directly in a Launcher from desktop or panel and that can make me feel a little piculiar.
https://youtu.be/fz2OUoJpR7k?feature=shared&t=48

And sometimes having a little fun can lead to a serious good discovery.

If I want a Youtube video to start instantly by URL it looks like I can just pick the link they offer to share:

About the Launcher... I have made a script to be used instead of the command directly, and that works.
If someone wants that like I do, it is also a possibility, and we can perhaps discuss the script.



Hope you and your MX also have a good time Stumblin' in.
https://youtu.be/0AbvnTgGH8s?feature=shared&t=67

Tapin Radio (Rarma Radio) on windows has a literal ton of radio stations broadcast live built-in. I used to use tapin in windows to peruse what's free online worldwide and then simply give the specific url to vlc or, on droid I use Transistor. My favorite I used to use when I allowed a data connection in my car is Metalománie: http://mp3stream4.abradio.cz:8000/metalomanie128.mp3. Great station if you like rock. I'd mention others but some are now geo-ip blocked for the last 4 years or rarely as good as Metalománie is on a regular basis.
Basically find the websites of radio staions and pull the url of the stream if possible (some are locked by javascript nonsense forcing you to use the browser itself) to give to whatever client you prefer. Oink.me was shut down and had more music for free than apple offered for money. As for streaming platforms I would rather stream my own collection than someone else's. Nothing beats 'live' radio. Free and requires no login or other bs.

Jakob77 wrote: Fri Aug 25, 2023 4:22 pm Can anyone make Youtube play music instantly maybe by using an option along with the URL.?

Yes, in firefox, autoplay set to on, I have Adblock plus and DuckDuckGo essentials addon's , and it auto plays for hours,

Normally I have autoplay off, and a few sites explicitly blocked as well, but just turning it on works fine for me.

Thanks for all the contributions.


CharlesV

Yes it can make a smaller difference if autoplay is turned off. ;-)
As I recall it you had some 2. thoughts about ClipGrab for downloading videos.
Did I sense that right and if so what was it.?
Anyway I have seen some downloaded videos that had permission to run like programs and I don't like that, so I thought I better warn about it and ask for advice about how to handle it.?




For links to instant music I think it is really great to be able to have a little some to use off line.
I send my thanks to Youtube and all the developers that has made it possible.

I guess I am a little slow and that is why it is new to me that it is possible to download videos as files.
Firefox also has the add-on 'Video DownloadHelper' that might be able to do even more.






Do we have a 'real' video recorder that can copy anything we bring on the screen with Firefox.?
In case someone knows something about that, I will be happy to read about it.

Do know that video download helper calls home. I believe it was that one, been a while. When I looked into my router's logs, I saw there was something getting blocked every 15 minutes. When I googled on the accompanying text, I tracked it down to the extension in the end. Disabling it got rid of the 15-minute blocking report, so it went out the door here.

@Jakob77 I do not use clipgrab or any other downloader. I stay away from as many extensions as possible. ( I think I run two ;-p ) And one downloader was just found to have some serious backdoor issues too!

There are plenty of places out there, free, to make videos of youtube if you like, however, with your 'security concerns' that you keep worrying about - THIS should be one of the TOP concerns on your list! Malicious code can be embedded in video ( and images as well as PDF's), you should NOT be downloading videos if your worried about security ;-/

As for recording... SimpleScreenRecorder should be installed already and I have found it to be pretty good to record what you want. And VLC can also stream and record as well.

CharlesV

Okay, and thank you, I might not understand how bad it is but I draw a sharp line between the software that download the file and the file.

There might be many issues with the software but I find it hard to believe the downloaded video file is a dangerous virus in itself.
If it is, can't we track and find the cracker.?

I remember Windows Word once made it possible to make macros autorun all kinds of commands when the document was opened, but I don't want to think the VLC Player is that silly.?

@Jakob77 wrote:

There might be many issues with the software but I find it hard to believe the downloaded video file is a dangerous virus in itself.
If it is, can't we track and find the cracker.?

Consider this. For the folks that traffic in pirated videos, music, and movies, their payoff is the spread of their malware which is included with the downloaded object rather than in the object and triggered to launch simultaneously. These folks are like cockroaches and you might catch a few but there are thousands more lying in wait on the internet.

When it comes to discovering new music, I pretty much always use Pandora. It's a very underrated music service. Used to be popular. Not sure why people don't use it anymore.

You can also use YouTube sidebar recommendations to find new music with autoplay on or off. It's actually better than you would think. You may wanna do that in a private window though so you don't have recommendations for music clogging up your feed. Unless, of course, that's exactly what you want.

Eadwine Rose wrote: Fri Sep 15, 2023 11:21 am Do know that video download helper calls home. I believe it was that one, been a while. When I looked into my router's logs, I saw there was something getting blocked every 15 minutes. When I googled on the accompanying text, I tracked it down to the extension in the end. Disabling it got rid of the 15-minute blocking report, so it went out the door here.

It was possibly checking for updates, auto updating is on by default I believe, that can be user set to Off if desired.
I have it installed but disabled unless I want to use it for something, but disabling updates or only running it when desired won't stop it from keeping track of your stats, it does that anyway while it's enabled and being used.
I remember getting a notification a while ago congratulating me for 1000 downloads

Having said that though, it's possibly similar behaviour to most other browser Add-ons when they're enabled.

Here's the database used by the majority of radio players:
https://www.radio-browser.info/

What is radio-browser?

This is a community driven effort (like wikipedia) with the aim of collecting as many internet radio and TV stations as possible. Any help is appreciated!
Free for ALL!
Data license: public domain, software license: GPL, server software: open source
Open API for usage in own apps
Everyone is free to use the collected data (station names, tags, links to stream, links to homepages, language, country, state) in their works. I give all the rights I have at the accumulated data to the public domain.

Jakob77 wrote: Fri Sep 15, 2023 4:26 pm CharlesV

Okay, and thank you, I might not understand how bad it is but I draw a sharp line between the software that download the file and the file.

There might be many issues with the software but I find it hard to believe the downloaded video file is a dangerous virus in itself.
If it is, can't we track and find the cracker.?

I remember Windows Word once made it possible to make macros autorun all kinds of commands when the document was opened, but I don't want to think the VLC Player is that silly.?

Videos, Images and PDF's can all contain malware and viruses. All you have to do is to search and you can read all about problems being embedded inside these files, there are tons of valid sites discussing it. The code inside them usually goes after a library ( videos for example were going after the ffmpeg libraries.), but because of their popularity many images and pdf's go after MS office and adobe apps.

Linux doesnt suffer from a lot of this stuff, however, imo, its only a matter of time - and we are seeing increased threats. ( Again, if your concerned about security, read up on this stuff - its all out there.)

Thank you again.


I have a user with autologin just for entertainment and there is nothing private in his home folder.
That is in my opinion an obvious way to make it just a little safer.
But I will achieve a much bigger quantum leap if the entire computer does not contain important data. Therefore I also find it increasingly important to own a spare/test computer.
It can be installed with Snapshot and afterwards added all the weird programs I want to explore, and when I'm done, the computer can quickly be cleaned with a Snapshot again.

That is a concept I have been able to use thanks to MX, and a lot of goodies, and a lot more freedom has come out of it.
However if the downloaded goodies turn out to be trojan horses of the worst kind, and I copy them to another computer..... ups..... I guess I better take a closer look at how to reset those file privileges. ;-)


A Terminal command... bum bum,, let me see.. chmod something to forbid all files in the folder and also in all sub folders to run like programs...
Better be careful to run a command like that in the right folder... for instance:

~/Music

I don't think it normally ever can go wrong to reset file privileges for all files in that folder.

Is that the cure or is there a better one.?

Maybe it will soon be relevant to download an antivirus program to examine downloaded files before they are used.?

All my downloaded videos seem to work well when VLC plays them.




Arnox

It is very good to know but there is so much new music I don't like that I am sure I won't have much time to explore it.
It is not that I don't have an ugly taste, it is just often another kind. ;-)
https://youtu.be/h-V1t0PLQ2E?feature=shared

Personally, I think a VM is a better approach. The best method, is to trap all outside connection (email, web browsing etc), IN a VM. Allow nothing out on the host and only use it for 'work' etc.

OR, create VM's for your users, and lock them down tight.

@Jakob77
Just remember that when dealing with copyright infringed digital content, there will always be risks.

I don't know that copyright can be a problem if you only copy for private use.?
I have had a VHS video recorder for decades, and I have never been told it is a risk.
If I put files on a server with public access or sell videos it is another story but I have no plans in that direction.

CharlesV wrote: Fri Sep 15, 2023 11:34 am As for recording... SimpleScreenRecorder should be installed already and I have found it to be pretty good to record what you want. And VLC can also stream and record as well.

Thanks for not embarrassing me by suggesting that I try to read the MX manual. ;-)
I had forgotten about the SimpleScreenRecorder in the main repo but now I have tested it a little, and I am impressed.
It puts some load on the CPU when recording but not as much as I expected, and the result is a lot better.
I don't know how much I will use it but among other things it is a great feeling to know that if I can just get a song on the screen I can also record it and afterwards play it instantly anytime on demand.

I have seen there is a recording tool in VLC also but I don't know how much it can do.

@Jakob77 wrote:

I don't know that copyright can be a problem if you only copy for private use.?

1) Is it OK to steal a book if it's only for personal use?
2) Possession of stolen goods is still a crime in most countries.
3) Sites that offer 'free' new digital content aren't doing so for altruistic reasons. They are going to exact a payoff somehow and as a computer operator that needs to be your biggest worry.

Bad follow-up timing for my post, but Jakob, if you want to record audio, audacity is installed via default, there's also audio-recorder, a gnome recorder and others.
Screenshot link for basic Audacity setup and usage: https://ibb.co/whzc8hQ
HTH

And I would second Audacity if you want to record only music - its awesome!

I wouldn't run ANY browser extensions that are closed-source.
That said one of my all-time favorite addons is "LibRedirect" it will redirect popular sites to "open/alternative frontends".
When I go to a youtube link it redirects to an "Invidious" frontend and most instances have a "Download" button on the left.
It allows greater security IMO because alot of these frontends can function without JS.

If you want a program that can download files from alot of different sites, I recommend "yt-dlp".
It's CLI but super simple, just "yt-dlp [link]" and it will grab it. Add "-x" and it will extract audio.
You can then get stuff from google themselves so it should be safer (they won't knowingly host malware, not impossible tho)
These files are NOT downloaded with the execute permission which makes it safer, however the threats CharlesV mentioned exploit the Library that reads these files so you still need to keep your A/V Libs updated (ffmpeg and the lot).

I think one good example of this threat is called "StageFright" https://wikiless.org/wiki/Stagefright_(bug)

If you need a GUI checkout "tartube" and "youtubedl-gui".

Overall I recommend checking out both "yt-dlp" and the addon "LibRedirect" It will change the way you navigate the web and IMO is what the web should be.

dove wrote: Sat Feb 17, 2024 6:37 pm https://radioparadise.com/home

That's actually a pretty nice link - many options webplayer and others.

Different: https://everynoise.com/
Also search: "This made KCMU the first station in the world to offer online audio of this quality."
which is now https://www.kexp.org/schedule/ which plays different genres of music at different times.
They used to have one called "Swinging Doors" that played songs like: https://www.last.fm/music/The+Backslide ... To+My+Baby
and others that might play something like https://youtu.be/oRqjVPljSGQ?t=167

This isn't exactly "instant", or a link , but these days a sort of... outside of the box idea: if you happen to have a local library nearby that maintains and updates a good music selection - a physical one, on CDs - this can be a goldmine for discovering and listening to all kinds of new and old music. Depending on where you live, it might also be perfectly legal to rip those CDs into a personal copy, so that you can listen to them even after you have returned the actual discs (Asunder CD Ripper in MX Linux works very nicely).

Here are some more online radio station databases/lists
https://fmstream.org
https://www.internet-radio.com
https://live365.com
http://radio.garden

anyone know of any free sites that let you download music for free?
collecting a large variety of music for a friend of mine, he dj for
charity groups of all ages

If you like 60's type rock tunes, of all kinds obscure and known, absolutely free no commercials (except 60's commercials for entertainment !) -

https://www.techwebsound.com/index.cfm

jamendo.com offers free music

Went through the whole thread so I would not mention it twice. This is what powers my Motorcycle Jukebox.
I figured a picture is worth a thousand words. So.




Edit ; Use Deadbeef instead of XMMS in preferences to play music if not wanting to open the browser. When using streamtuner in MX Fluxbox.

rokytnji.1 wrote: Sun Apr 07, 2024 4:42 pm Went through the whole thread so I would not mention it twice. This is what powers my Motorcycle Jukebox.
I figured a picture is worth a thousand words. So.




Edit ; Use Deadbeef instead of XMMS in preferences to play music if not wanting to open the browser. When using streamtuner in MX Fluxbox.

https://milki.include-once.org/streamtuner2/
https://packages.debian.org/unstable/main/streamtuner2

Interesting, does anyone know about the audio quality, or how/if it selects songs with better quality?
Seems to work in Audacious too.

MX-21.3 Xfce Version: 2.2.1+dfsg-2.1 MXPI – Enabled, Suggests: audacious, vlc, totem
FYI - The latest version is 2.2.2 and it was updated on soft112.com on 29 March, 2024.

2022-11-06 - "Well this is running very well on linux (mx linux-debian base) After install of latest .deb file it didnt open so I edit the application launcher to read /usr/bin/python3.9 /usr/bin/streamtuner2…." https://sourceforge.net/p/streamtuner2/ ... it=25#88ca

More on Antix forum too.

I think? - can record some with https://streamripper.sourceforge.net/faq.php