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What is the procedure for installing MX KDE on a laptop that has Windows 11? Does dual boot still work on Windows 11?
Do I just install MX KDE as usual and it will dual boot automatically? Any configuration changes needed?

Sparky wrote: Fri Mar 17, 2023 1:44 pm What is the procedure for installing MX KDE on a laptop that has Windows 11? Does dual boot still work on Windows 11?
Do I just install MX KDE as usual and it will dual boot automatically? Any configuration changes needed?

As stated, it's not possible to dual boot because Win 11 requires that Secure Boot be enabled in order to run and MX needs it to be disabled in order to boot.

In order to wipe the disk and install MX, you are going to have to first launch Win 11 and log into your Microsoft account to retrieve your BitLocker encryption key, then disable BitLocker and Quick Boot. Once these three things have been done in order, you can then reboot, enter the bios and disable Secure Boot. If disabling BitLocker did not work or the bios baulks at disabling Secure Boot, this is where you will need the decryption key that you acquired earlier. On new HP computers, when you disable Secure Boot, you will be asked if you intend to install another OS --> say Yes and you will be given an alphanumeric code to type in. Do so and you can proceed to install MX. On other OEMs' computers you may also have to locate and disable the Windows keys required by the Secure Boot utility.

It is apparently possible to dual boot Win 11 and MX, however you have to start with a hobbled version of Win 11 --> no BitLocker. no TPM, no Secure Boot and no updates.

edited to add: Give us the make and model of the laptop and we may be able to get you some more info.

Thank you. In this case, I might as well just install MX KDE on the machine and forget about Windows 11.

P.S. a sh*t move from MS.

Sparky wrote: Fri Mar 17, 2023 2:31 pm Thank you. In this case, I might as well just install MX KDE on the machine and forget about Windows 11.

P.S. a sh*t move from MS.

They try and fail. They try and fail. They try and fail. MS is a comic opera to those with a Linux mindset.

Google and search before asking dumb questions brought me here. I am too struggling with booting live MX Linux 21 on my computer with W11.

I thought that only AHS versions come with unsigned Kernel.

Do I get it right right that out of the box, none of the MX versions (USB) will boot on computers with secure boot enabled?

I have 12th gen corei5. That's why I am also specifically interested in the AHS version.

PS: Checked google, opened the manual, browsed the forum....

WarhawkCZ wrote: Tue Mar 21, 2023 6:40 pm I thought that only AHS versions come with unsigned Kernel.

Do I get it right right that out of the box, none of the MX versions (USB) will boot on computers with secure boot enabled?

That's paritally (+++EDIT+++) correct, the MX ISOs/USB' with Debians signed kernel would do secure-boot.
MX 21.3 Kde comes with unsigned AHS-kernel.
See: Blogpost : https://mxlinux.org/blog/mx-21-3-wildflower-released/

fehlix wrote: Tue Mar 21, 2023 6:49 pm

WarhawkCZ wrote: Tue Mar 21, 2023 6:40 pm I thought that only AHS versions come with unsigned Kernel.

Do I get it right right that out of the box, none of the MX versions (USB) will boot on computers with secure boot enabled?

That's paritally (+++EDIT+++) correct, the MX ISOs/USB' with Debians signed kernel would do secure-boot.
MX 21.3 Kde comes with unsigned AHS-kernel.
See: Blogpost : https://mxlinux.org/blog/mx-21-3-wildflower-released/

Are there plans to offer a version of MX with the signed kernel in the future?

Hey people,
Just found this update for Windows 10 and later:
https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/windo ... ot-process
might want to take a look, I have not tested the feature, and there are also other articles on how to neuter windows so you can run other OS loads, but once agian, no practical applications as examples. Just a heads up!

Hi Fehlix, thanks for the reply. I carefully read the post on anti-x forum:

https://www.antixforum.com/forums/topic ... ot-option/

I believe this comes from you. I was able to boot MX on my Framework laptop after playing with mokutil. However, this is machine specific. I am not able to have a "portable" MX that also runs on my corporate laptop. I also need to mention that I have only limited understanding of the secure boot.

For the framework laptop, first I thought I just add the EFI loader to the allow list. BIOS/UEFI of the laptop allows it. However, this still did not work.

That's paritally (+++EDIT+++) correct, the MX ISOs/USB' with Debians signed kernel would do secure-boot.
MX 21.3 Kde comes with unsigned AHS-kernel.

I believe this is also not 100% correct answer. Both XFCE and KDE version of AHS MX come with unsigned kernels. I've been trying with XFCE.

The original MX21 KDE ISO had the default debian bullseye 5.10 kernel. This may unfortunately not support recent CPU's (or APU's) properly.

I have a Dell XPS 13 (9310) with Windows 11 Pro on it. I had installed MX linux from a live USB without a hitch. I did disable secure boot in the BIOS, and did have to type in the (infuriating) Bitlocker key, which I had written down in case I would need it. The system works perfectly in both Windows 11 and in MX linux, except for the fact that SUSPEND does not work correctly, and every time I go into Windows, the BIOS time is changed, so that it is incorrect when I go into Windows. Since I hardly ever go into Windows, the time issue is moot. The suspend issue is much worse, especially since people have been complaining about it for years. This was done by Dell by design, which probably included ignoring their users' wishes-- a common Dell practice.

We need your computer’s complete profile before we can diagnose a problem like this, so you need to post the output from the QSI utility. The Quick System Info (QSI) utility is located in MX Tools and its output is automatically formatted for use here in the forum. Run the QSI utility, click “Copy for Forum” at the bottom and then just paste it here in your thread.
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venik212 wrote: Sat Apr 08, 2023 11:51 am I have a Dell XPS 13 (9310) with Windows 11 Pro on it. ... The system works perfectly in both Windows 11 and in MX linux, except for the fact that SUSPEND does not work correctly, and every time I go into Windows, the BIOS time is changed, so that it is incorrect when I go into Windows. ...

Fixing Incorrect Windows Time In Dual Boot

In Windows 10 and 11 how to turn on Time Sync

Verify correct Time Zone is set. The default is (UTC ?8:00) Pacific Time (US & Canada)

1. Right-click in the time and select 'Adjust date/time'
2. Scroll down and click 'Add clocks for different time zones'. In Windows 11 this section is called 'Additional Clocks'.
3. Click the 'Internet Time' tab
4. Click 'Change settings...'
5. In 'Internet Time Settings' Edit the 'Server:' to be time.nist.gov
6. Check 'Synchronize', click 'Update now', and then OK twice.

Reboot the PC and check the Firmware setting for the correct Time Zone, Date, and Time. Some PCs may only have time settings.

The above is a section of 'Dual Boot: MX Linux & Windows together - How To' that I'm currently writing.

This guy seems to do it just the normal way (for Ubuntu at least), no keys needed. Strange.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T78rCJ_i1no

Sparky wrote: Sun Apr 09, 2023 4:08 am This guy seems to do it just the normal way (for Ubuntu at least), no keys needed. Strange.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T78rCJ_i1no

Windows clock in his video is 4 hours behind Ubuntu. He set Ubuntu time zone to Detroit, Michigan (Eastern USA Time Zone - 4 UTC).